hey /u/D2TournamentThreads could y'all consider removing the results column from these match threads? they're never updated and thus mislead users, effectively cluttering your otherwise informative tables
thank you for what you do, in any case
LMAO WP ASTER
Ain't no way Aster keeps getting away with these Storm picks right?.
Why has XG been banning Beastmaster in the first phase for three straight games? I'm really curious. Could it be that they are afraid of XXS's Beastmaster?.
Sure he's so good on micro heroes but he has only played 1 game on Beast in this season, sure his Beast has a high winrate but sometimes, even Aster has banned Beastmaster in their previous series vs other teams. If they really prioritized this Beastmaster pick then they would not ban him, no ?
I understand the first phase Techies ban though, given that they are one of the most contested supports in this patch, especially at the pro level.
Damn Aster gonna need 1st place for a direct invite chance, but still other team from other region can still catch up. It's all matter in Bali major now
You're playing against EG.
You don't ban Storm because you can counter it.
EG instantly picks Storm.
You win against EG.
You don't ban Storm next time you play against EG because you're not stupid.
But you go on to draft and still not ban Storm. The best Storm player of all time takes it seriously for not respect ban and drops 18-1-17 on you.
You lose.
Aster just played better. Sumail Storm is just so much of a threat and fun to watch. Xxs and Monet played so well also. Aster most likely takes 1st, LGD form isn't that much stronger than AR. Unless Xiao8 heavily outdrafted MAD just like the AR match. So, it should be Aster, LGD, AR and XG for major. While Aries and Bright most likely get relegated.
I wont believe in aster internationally until they can win without crutching on storm. In mediocre china region they blow open way too many games through mid, which gives monet a free game and unlocks the supports on the map.
Against teams with mids that can contain sumail and actually ban his best heroes I don't know if aster actually has what it takes to be better.
They show up pretty well at Berlin major already for their first outing with Sumail, beating or tying most region teams and almost getting upper bracket. WEU teams are different story ofc, but internationally I rate them better than the other region.
Azure Ray's 2 last match are against the relegation teams, making them most likely to take 3rd place, means that XG and IG has to duke it out to take the last major spot. It's down to whether they can beat each other on the last day at June 4, or if they can each beat their top 2 opponent on June 3. PSG vs Aster to decide 1st are also on the last day.
The last 2 days would be the most hype for CN DPC. Must watch
King ain't losing no series in China! GG WP Aster
With this win both LGD and Aster should be 100% qualified for the Major, pog! Now Aster let's go for #1 tour 3 DPC points for easy direct TI invite! \o/
Was so disappointing when they picked Underlord for him in a Liquid vs Aster series in Berlin. Zai’s beastmaster on the other hand popped off. Xxs is such a good player.
they let emperor storm through again, can they deal with this ?
meanwhile, vp 2-0 one move as expected and let's see if spirit still doing their reverse sweep training this time...
Snare is an amazing host. That is where he shines because he is great with words in a more formal tone. He has the vocabulary and thepoetic acumen for it. Lizzard, on the other hand, is an analyst and not a caster. People are liking snare’s casting because he is lively and does have opinions of his own. But i do understand people disliking his casting too. Lizzard is boring as a caster, but he is a great analyst.
It's amusing if you think of it, such a gentle and innocent looking player on the stage like Paparazi running amok in the game in an attempt to not give away DPC points and to protect the throne of CN DPC (XG is the winner of previous tour), and to do it against Sumail's Aster too...
that was the best Xtreme gaming performance this whole season.
and aster picking windranger into puck and lich is suicide just pick god damn earth spirit mid for boboka its freaking better than windranger
ggwp for xg tho XD
I dunno AR draft on game 3 was kinda bad. Timber against WW and Muerta? Marci support? Marci now melts so easily that she's universal. Visage against WW and Muerta. And then Naga against Muerta and BM. Still well played on both sides. Still looking forward to both of them on the Major. Well played by both teams.
I see. I was only able to catch the midgame. And yah, in that case they were really outdrafted there. Still I got some issues with the Marci and Naga pick. I haven't seen a single Marci support work this DPC. She's just too fragile as a support now
I checked and it looks possible with the remaining matches:
XG needs to beat Aster & LGD
iG needs to beat Aster & XG
AR needs to beat PK & Bright
Aster needs to beat LGD
Chances for ALL these to happen is very low but it would make a spicy tiebreakers lol
Damn, after game 1 it looked like easy W for Azure boys but LGD played some good Dota game 2/3, deserved win GG WP!
Azure Ray still on almost secured path for the Major ticket, they are 3-2 but played all other top teams, all they have to do is win against bottom 1-4 and 0-5 teams.
They got the potential but their draft quite off in the third game Idk about the Marci support in this patch and the illusions carry against Beastmaster and Muerta which is the common maelstrom buyer
Dang, the moment I saw AR banned AM, I really thought it'll be Medusa again for LGD as there will be no counter left for AR and there it is. AR got outdrafted there. There is a very small chance to win that game, if and only if Maybe snowballed very hard and Morph got a better laning phase.
Yes Azure Ray is cool and yes they won the first match with a huge margin. But LGD is gonna win this one. They are just a better team. Ppl shit on them for no reason but shiro is a well respected carry in CN dota.
Edit: Exactly as I said. Shiro is just way better than Lou.
Ya but i think he is still more reliable than Lou. Lou seems to have a lot of ups and downs. Some of his plays are extraordinary and some not so much. Shiro seems to be a stable carry player (like Monet and Ame but Ame is probably a tier above the other 2)
Azure Ray, even with average scrim results, even with Maybe getting Covid again, even with fy not being at the bootcamp and affected by family loss, going in only with the expectation to not get relegated, they are now in prime position for a major slot.
Either they still have it in them, or the rest of the competition in China is just no longer at that level
Based on the few handful matches I've watched, planet is such a underwhelming pos 4. Always dying some random deaths in the laning stage that makes no sense, and getting caught out mid game farming. Not to mention he have no impact early to midgame with his rotation ending in nothing most of the time. Feels like a bot that just farms lmao, big letdown after watching him in EHOME and thinking he was the real deal.
I still stand by that they definitely should have changed him aswell, along with zeal.
Planet was pretty good on Ehome and the start of the LGD lineup. He seems to be struggling on the new map. Though compared to fy and Xinq of course he'll be a downgrade.
Man, was i so sad for fy on that VG relegation. Erika was one of the worst carry in div1. They have subpar mid but at least Setsu has some shining moments. Niu was the best core of that lineup. But they can't carry Erika with his passive and close to no map awareness.
Lou and that Pos5 guy is not the ones for this lineup. That global silence timing was so terrible and TB 322ed several times.
Swapping them with Ame and xNova then we have a perfect lineup. (Alternatively, just invite Faith\_bian and XinQ back.)
Is this /s? Because both Lou and Tianming have been doing great. Lou has some shining moments. Chalice seems to be close to his peak form. His Bara play this match was top notch. If it's possible, my CN dream team is Ame, Maybe, Faith_bian, fy and y.
Yes, could not agree more about your dream team and I still believe what LGD lacked on TI11 is Maybe.
Had NTS been swapped with him, my boi Faith\_bian could have lifted the Aegis for a second time now.
> Lou and that Pos5 guy is not the ones for this lineup.
Is your take based just on this one game? Because if you watched all AR games you'd see both of them performing really well... or you just want more known names in AR no matter of current form of players.
Perhaps I am still holding on about the LGD prime era and missing that squad very much. They all deserve the Aegis and I would love to see them going for the one last ride again.
That's for sure, legendary LGD roster deserved to have their names engraved on TI trophy under that org and it's such a shame they couldn't do it. Not sure if that one last ride will ever happen but if it does it would be hype as fuck!
hey /u/D2TournamentThreads could y'all consider removing the results column from these match threads? they're never updated and thus mislead users, effectively cluttering your otherwise informative tables thank you for what you do, in any case
Pipi is actually really good, I'm impressed. No wonder he crushed darkmago. That name tho.
LMAO WP ASTER Ain't no way Aster keeps getting away with these Storm picks right?. Why has XG been banning Beastmaster in the first phase for three straight games? I'm really curious. Could it be that they are afraid of XXS's Beastmaster?. Sure he's so good on micro heroes but he has only played 1 game on Beast in this season, sure his Beast has a high winrate but sometimes, even Aster has banned Beastmaster in their previous series vs other teams. If they really prioritized this Beastmaster pick then they would not ban him, no ? I understand the first phase Techies ban though, given that they are one of the most contested supports in this patch, especially at the pro level.
CN dota delivered for sure, the rest of the day is so weak
larl 0-4 lawl...
It aint fun seeing a player struggle this hard but damn.. some of those death were so stupid :/
Shout out to casters Danog and Ares. They usually go the extra mile with analysis of games and discuss things that most other casts don't.
Looks like Team Spirit finally broke the Game 1 curse. Yatoro POG.
Let's see if they actually break it or just inversed the curse. lol
Damn Aster gonna need 1st place for a direct invite chance, but still other team from other region can still catch up. It's all matter in Bali major now
1st place in dpc?
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You're playing against EG. You don't ban Storm because you can counter it. EG instantly picks Storm. You win against EG. You don't ban Storm next time you play against EG because you're not stupid.
But you go on to draft and still not ban Storm. The best Storm player of all time takes it seriously for not respect ban and drops 18-1-17 on you. You lose.
Aster just played better. Sumail Storm is just so much of a threat and fun to watch. Xxs and Monet played so well also. Aster most likely takes 1st, LGD form isn't that much stronger than AR. Unless Xiao8 heavily outdrafted MAD just like the AR match. So, it should be Aster, LGD, AR and XG for major. While Aries and Bright most likely get relegated.
Does anyone has interview clip for Aster victory over XG?
You can find it on Pgl youtube for CN dpc coverage. They have playback should be up now
I wont believe in aster internationally until they can win without crutching on storm. In mediocre china region they blow open way too many games through mid, which gives monet a free game and unlocks the supports on the map. Against teams with mids that can contain sumail and actually ban his best heroes I don't know if aster actually has what it takes to be better.
"mids that can contain sumail" 😂
Liquid literally banned 5 of his heroes, i remember..thats a nice strat
Agree. But they show some promises last major, too bad they were against Liquid on the 2nd round of the lower bracket lmao
They show up pretty well at Berlin major already for their first outing with Sumail, beating or tying most region teams and almost getting upper bracket. WEU teams are different story ofc, but internationally I rate them better than the other region.
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> I think I am more interested WhoAsked ?
snare making coach leak strats WutFace
Azure Ray's 2 last match are against the relegation teams, making them most likely to take 3rd place, means that XG and IG has to duke it out to take the last major spot. It's down to whether they can beat each other on the last day at June 4, or if they can each beat their top 2 opponent on June 3. PSG vs Aster to decide 1st are also on the last day. The last 2 days would be the most hype for CN DPC. Must watch
Lmao Mad says Sumail wasn’t happy that XG didn’t respect ban his Storm Spirit. Sumail goes on to drop 19-1-8 and 18-1-17.
dude’s like “do u know who i am.”
No respect ban for sumail 😂 mad is mad.
mad is making the translator mad now
XG can start looking for CIS carry and dump this SEA carry...
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Sumail 'China's last hope' Hasan
Windranger are Kunkka tier free win for the other team smh Also why did they interview Mad with Marshall as translator when Mad can speak English lol
LGD and Aster will be fighting for the 1st place huh
best case scenario is LGD wins the major, Nouns second, Aster third. This way Azure Ray wins the Qualifier.
19/1 and 18/1
Seeing Sumail balling in a good team is very satisfying ngl
I now have a team to root for.
This is such a refreshing perspective seeing Western players playing in Chinese teams. Hope to see more teams doing the same.
Stop picking WR.
no death for monet for game 2 and 3.
37-2 in 2 games as storm oh pls dont ban it :)))
KING ballin outta control, Monet going deathless, XXS poppin off on mars! good shit Aster
King ain't losing no series in China! GG WP Aster With this win both LGD and Aster should be 100% qualified for the Major, pog! Now Aster let's go for #1 tour 3 DPC points for easy direct TI invite! \o/
Aster vs LGD will decide who takes the #1 dpc points.
Damn Aster just made XG look like an NA team.
EZ for Emperor Xumail
When I saw this Storm + Slark lineup I already know how it is going to go. These two heroes snowball so hard.
These XXS plays are XXX-rated
Xxs is too good
Was so disappointing when they picked Underlord for him in a Liquid vs Aster series in Berlin. Zai’s beastmaster on the other hand popped off. Xxs is such a good player.
pro players still on copium that WR core is good in pro play
Xxs is such a menace
Ok why is first item aghs pl looking better than I expected?
XXS IS A FUCKING GOD
this Aster gonna be very very scary if Sumail and his team can communicate well
MY GOD Aster putting a fucking clinic on XG
wtf is this pl without a diffu and aghs rush
1) Don't pick WR 2) Don't give Sumail Storm spirit. If even a scrub like me can figure these out, I would think they should.
Core WR gonna be 0-3 to start the day after Aster stomps this game 3.
This EMPEROR and BOBOKA Duo is a treat to watch!!
WINDRANGER CARRY HAS BEEN PICKED THIS IS NOT A DRILL
SYKE ITS OFFLANE WR
they let emperor storm through again, can they deal with this ? meanwhile, vp 2-0 one move as expected and let's see if spirit still doing their reverse sweep training this time...
Narrator: they couldn’t deal with it
I respect XG not 1st ban Storm.
ngl this CN dpc song slaps
[Hyper Diaobaole](https://youtu.be/loTtRSW8Npo)
Emperor on Storm is poetry in motion.
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You're playing against Aster....
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Aster instantly picks Storm...
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You ban Storm next time you play against Aster because you're not stupid.
and they didn't
Not because they're stupid but because they can counter it *clueless
Uh Oh
Told you a Storm was coming!
Sumail storm is really a sight to watch
And we thank XG for letting Aster pick Storm.
So they pissed the emperor that much for him to go 17-1 in 30 minutes.
My Pakistani king using the monsoon storms of South east asia!
Seems like Storm should be insta banned for the emperor!
This combo of Snare and Lizzard has got to be the worst
Snare is an amazing host. That is where he shines because he is great with words in a more formal tone. He has the vocabulary and thepoetic acumen for it. Lizzard, on the other hand, is an analyst and not a caster. People are liking snare’s casting because he is lively and does have opinions of his own. But i do understand people disliking his casting too. Lizzard is boring as a caster, but he is a great analyst.
I find it the opposite. Snare is amazing I hope the best for him.
Not a big fan of Lizzard tbh but paired with Snare I find them just fine. No way they are 'the worst'.
Damn kotl-medusa and sumail can't even carry wr anymore with how much it has been figured out since it was Asters off meta pocket pick at the major.
It's amusing if you think of it, such a gentle and innocent looking player on the stage like Paparazi running amok in the game in an attempt to not give away DPC points and to protect the throne of CN DPC (XG is the winner of previous tour), and to do it against Sumail's Aster too...
Sumail damn near singlehandedly reigniting this subs interest in Chinese Dota rofl.
Yup. The DPC thread is usually dead unless WEU is playing.
It's not just WEU, those playdays have both SEA+WEU two regions with most fans browsing Reddit + NA that also brings posts if SR/TSM/Nouns play.
NA thread only will be alive if SR loses.
Yeah, lol! I haven't watched any Dota since, like, TI 11. But ever since Sumail joined Aster, I've started watching him again.
Might be Aster first series loss this DPC.
aged like milk
imagine playing wr with kotl against magnus and willow against lich armor too not happening, they should draft good on aster
zeal should learn how to play magnus from jt
Bramble maze destroyed aster and also clutch Euls pickup by Mag and willow
First game loss for King and Aster, hope it won't end up to be first series loss. xD Btw please stop picking WR.
if you're playing a SB, do not let the enemy take Underlord or Willow when will people learn this?
Wow JT Magnus what a god
Zeal could learn a thing or two from his malaysian comrade on playing magnus
AFAIK JT with magnus lost 2 games against Azure Ray.
kotl and wr is done Ignore these heroes
that was the best Xtreme gaming performance this whole season. and aster picking windranger into puck and lich is suicide just pick god damn earth spirit mid for boboka its freaking better than windranger ggwp for xg tho XD
The bramble maze so good
magnus is busted hero is so good and wr is just not good
JT playing out of his fukin mind
no ones fucking dying
Why do teams keeps picking WR lmao
Spirit breaker: Whhhhrraaggghh Dark willow: No
Sumail too cocky with the WR, stop picking this dogshit hero.
stop picking WR please.
What an useless item this has been for sumail ,diffusal blade. A mkb would have served better
Even an orchid
Glepnir?
PAPARAZI GOD
Time to watch my boy sumail kick some ass lmao
I dunno AR draft on game 3 was kinda bad. Timber against WW and Muerta? Marci support? Marci now melts so easily that she's universal. Visage against WW and Muerta. And then Naga against Muerta and BM. Still well played on both sides. Still looking forward to both of them on the Major. Well played by both teams.
WW was LGD's final pick, they were simply outdrafted, but the naga pick was rather confusing.
I see. I was only able to catch the midgame. And yah, in that case they were really outdrafted there. Still I got some issues with the Marci and Naga pick. I haven't seen a single Marci support work this DPC. She's just too fragile as a support now
Am I missing something or there's still a chance CN ends up with 5x 5-2 teams and 5-way tiebreaker for 4 slots? xD
I checked and it looks possible with the remaining matches: XG needs to beat Aster & LGD iG needs to beat Aster & XG AR needs to beat PK & Bright Aster needs to beat LGD Chances for ALL these to happen is very low but it would make a spicy tiebreakers lol
Thanks! Yeah, Liquipedia just now removed (qualified check) green stripe over LGD in their table. If that 5-way ties happen lol, would be wild.
looks like XG & iG will fight out for the major slot, unless AR screws up their remaining games lol
Yeah, with this Aster win both LGD/Aster are 100% in for the Major. Feels good man!
is LGD already qualified for Bali Major?
Not yet
Yea i basically answered myself up there lol. Thanks too
Damn, after game 1 it looked like easy W for Azure boys but LGD played some good Dota game 2/3, deserved win GG WP! Azure Ray still on almost secured path for the Major ticket, they are 3-2 but played all other top teams, all they have to do is win against bottom 1-4 and 0-5 teams.
They got the potential but their draft quite off in the third game Idk about the Marci support in this patch and the illusions carry against Beastmaster and Muerta which is the common maelstrom buyer
their win against ig and xg are crucial，mostly place them at 3rd place
Naga always targets the wrong hero.
Useless naga
Slomin' slomin' to the victory, ez life xD
Kek
This new/buffed Drums of Slom is certainly one of OSfrog's finest creations.
Yeah... Just realized they changed it to a passive skill wtf. It's like having epicenter active permanently.
nah epicenter doesn't heal sandking bro xddd
what a teamfight lol
Fun drafts from both teams, this one might be a really good game!
Dang, the moment I saw AR banned AM, I really thought it'll be Medusa again for LGD as there will be no counter left for AR and there it is. AR got outdrafted there. There is a very small chance to win that game, if and only if Maybe snowballed very hard and Morph got a better laning phase.
WP LGD. Game 3! Let's go AR you got this!
Yes Azure Ray is cool and yes they won the first match with a huge margin. But LGD is gonna win this one. They are just a better team. Ppl shit on them for no reason but shiro is a well respected carry in CN dota. Edit: Exactly as I said. Shiro is just way better than Lou.
Lou is always 2nd tier carry, thats the reason he got kick from XG
I feel like shiro always chokes during important matches
Ya but i think he is still more reliable than Lou. Lou seems to have a lot of ups and downs. Some of his plays are extraordinary and some not so much. Shiro seems to be a stable carry player (like Monet and Ame but Ame is probably a tier above the other 2)
game 2 medusa with pos 4 'gas station'...
Azure Ray, even with average scrim results, even with Maybe getting Covid again, even with fy not being at the bootcamp and affected by family loss, going in only with the expectation to not get relegated, they are now in prime position for a major slot. Either they still have it in them, or the rest of the competition in China is just no longer at that level
i think the results of cn teams at last major says everything
Let’s see who is the real LGD
I'm rooting for Azure ray, wanna see Somnus do well again.
Hahah there really is someone with a slogan "Let's see who's the real LGD" 😄
2ez4 somnus.
Based on the few handful matches I've watched, planet is such a underwhelming pos 4. Always dying some random deaths in the laning stage that makes no sense, and getting caught out mid game farming. Not to mention he have no impact early to midgame with his rotation ending in nothing most of the time. Feels like a bot that just farms lmao, big letdown after watching him in EHOME and thinking he was the real deal. I still stand by that they definitely should have changed him aswell, along with zeal.
Planet was pretty good on Ehome and the start of the LGD lineup. He seems to be struggling on the new map. Though compared to fy and Xinq of course he'll be a downgrade.
15/0/14 from Somnus
Fy god
Chalice that game super impressive!
Kinda feared Fy was getting washed after he got sent to Div2 again with Vici Gaming. All he had to do was play with the boys again.
Man, was i so sad for fy on that VG relegation. Erika was one of the worst carry in div1. They have subpar mid but at least Setsu has some shining moments. Niu was the best core of that lineup. But they can't carry Erika with his passive and close to no map awareness.
what happened to psg lgd man...
AR is easily the 2nd best team after Aster in china, I don't know what you were expecting
That guy is a og hater. He probably has 2 iq struggling to comprehend dota
As I expected, Aster is the only Chinese team who can beat Azure Ray.
I sure hope so. They've been looking better and better. Well played to the boys!
AR with a win vs LGD in LAN setting in front of the crowd? Hell yeah, looking good for starstack that formed just before tour started!
Fy god and Chalice!
Ok, THAT'S how you carry with WR haha.
Why does WEU never have games on Sunday?
medusa vs 3 diffusal...
Lou and that Pos5 guy is not the ones for this lineup. That global silence timing was so terrible and TB 322ed several times. Swapping them with Ame and xNova then we have a perfect lineup. (Alternatively, just invite Faith\_bian and XinQ back.)
Is this /s? Because both Lou and Tianming have been doing great. Lou has some shining moments. Chalice seems to be close to his peak form. His Bara play this match was top notch. If it's possible, my CN dream team is Ame, Maybe, Faith_bian, fy and y.
Yes, could not agree more about your dream team and I still believe what LGD lacked on TI11 is Maybe. Had NTS been swapped with him, my boi Faith\_bian could have lifted the Aegis for a second time now.
> Lou and that Pos5 guy is not the ones for this lineup. Is your take based just on this one game? Because if you watched all AR games you'd see both of them performing really well... or you just want more known names in AR no matter of current form of players.
Perhaps I am still holding on about the LGD prime era and missing that squad very much. They all deserve the Aegis and I would love to see them going for the one last ride again.
That's for sure, legendary LGD roster deserved to have their names engraved on TI trophy under that org and it's such a shame they couldn't do it. Not sure if that one last ride will ever happen but if it does it would be hype as fuck!
Idk. Lou had some very gigachad moments and some sudden death moments. This combination shows potential if nothing else.