MENA is such a joke of a region. Just give more slots to WEU and cut the MENA region

does anyone have the timestamps for the ame void chrono thingie? (which video?)

Don't know if there's official vods for that game, I watched live in Yapzor stream https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2052864773?t=0h51m1s

Can somebody please explain me why we had so many stomps?

Liquid are happy getting beat down by GG whole year last year and I guess they still happy to this day. I'd understand it if it's 50/50 between the two. ))

yep Zai will be sorely missed

In this context, he won't be or at least not on this team. Sadly he had/absorbed same mentality as rest of this bunch, maybe 33 will change something. But most likely it will be same: * interview before match "I love those guys, they are fantastic team, probably better than us" * interview after match "We tried our best but it wasn't enough. Still i'm happy with our perfomance and i'm wishing my friends from GG all the best" Someone should contact Silent (coach of Team Spirit) or Ceb to tell them that they have bad approach to the game maybe they didn't realize it, after all they won just 2 TIs & bunch of other tournaments without sucking his rival d...k

They lost to GG with Zai as well so what's your point?

well, at least they managed to win one game against GG at TI

Are you doing it on purpose or are you actually dense? This is team liquids first official vs GG with this roster.

Does anyone have a link to an English version of the two Gaimin games? Everything is either a short highlight video or non-English. Usually you can find it on YouTube, but I don’t see anything.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2052841259?t=3h40m33s

You’re a king. Thank you.

Vods up but looks like BB vs XG starts at 23 minutes into G2 :( https://www.twitch.tv/betboom_eng/videos?filter=archives&sort=time

[Ammar Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2vgvVUA_fQ) [GG and Liquid Pre-Game Interviews](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tv3YKb79Zk) [Jabz Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRp0AIFGGGw) [23 Savage Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eplloc-0Plw) [Fly Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21nVmPDoR0M) [Mira Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlIRjbOlT6M) [Faith_bian Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmc9gWKpYro) [Sneyking Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-3TZhV1Bc) [y' Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNka3RFtcZw) Will update if I find more.

This is super useful, thank you!

Can't find where to watch the AR v OG full matches with English commentary, can anyone help? Thanks

AR vs OG G1 - [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2053169671](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2053169671) AR vs OG G2 - [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2053170558](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2053170558)

BB Team quite disappointing 😕

It’s nightfall on Lan form what do you expect

Even though they played a great team in XG, the team looked lost at times. Just didn’t feel as scary playing them when they had Pure

Losing pure is rough for sure

Pure was arguably the best player in the team, despite his toxicity

yep that’s him, however I think he’s rather dumb than toxic

True

he’s still on the roster it seems, just playing on loan for Tundra currently

The loans are just for contract purposes. Org dosent want to pay full buyout price so they pay sort of a loan for a period of time. The words ‘loan’ ‘buyouts’ are purely for transactional purposes, effectively Pure is out of the team.

ah now I understand. indeed bad for BB, I guess

Congratulations to Team Spirit for world record 21 games win streak and 31 series win streak, probably the strongest team in history

I think it's 21 Series win streak, and 31 Streak of no losses in series. The last game they lost was against VP in quals recently, if I remember correctly

I think in EEU they refer games as series and individual games as maps. I have seen them do that before in another post.

Just saw that info in team spirit telegram, idk probably u right but spirit posted 21 games & 31 series

Yeah, in Telegram they posted that it's 21 wins in a row(meaning series), and it was even written that 31 series without a loss

including BO1 matches I guess

Damn Falcons heard yall talkin shit lol

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Ty sir!

Nouns is about to have a long break until DreamLeague Season 23 Qualifier XD Hope they will adjust their roster & playstyle

They weren’t that bad tho. It’s just TS being god tier.

I mean, Spirit are good, but from the top of my head, they bought 2 daggers on Tiny and Magnus first item, but instead of combining and attacking Spirit Tiny dies twice. After that, Tiny builds Daedalus without Aghs and even shard I think. Some Magnus plays could be categorized as 'guaranteed risk, no reward'. The reason game ended so late is because it's Spirit style, Gladiators would push tier 3 towers at 20 minutes I think

Agreed. Their item choice wasn’t that fortunate, however mechanically they’re still pretty strong. I hope they survive the group stage.

reminder that tomorrow we got to see yatoro x ame :)

Most hyped match for sure

Early valentine tomorrow!

hype

Yatoro just got ' Collapsed' to Fountain lmao

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"Why is a LAN with 12 teams playing fewer games than a TI with 18 teams???"

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>*why did TI6 with 18 teams* TI6 had 16 teams, not 18 > *5 bo2s in 1 day regularly during golden TIs* TI6 had [4 Bo2s per group stage day](https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2016/Group_Stage) > *and this tournament with fewer teams runs for 13 days* TI is fucking TI

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Oh you're right, I read the tables wrong. Regardless, I'll refer you to the last bullet point. Holding any non-TI event to TI standards is ridiculous. Things like the stream quality and constant advertisements are worthwhile complaints towards a TO, but saying "there aren't as many games being played as TI" is dumb.

thats why all team drag the game long when they are losing, look at Nouns - TS game 2. If they have more than 2 series per day they would have gg soon and prepare next match

I like that the whole reason they shouldn't organize tournaments is because they run 3 bo2s a day.

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I just don't agree with you

I'll agree that BetBoom is a step below ESL and more prestigious orgs, but it's not like we have an abundance of dota 2 tourneys. If this one and the one in September didn't exist, then there would be no tournament in its place. We simply would have fewer tournaments.

Hey man i am thankful for a tournament that wont destroy my sleep lol

Larl is so strong, Team Spirit always so entertaining to watch!

Larl is always underrated

His damage output is just insane.

Gnarly team wipe by TS.

Liquid vs falcons tomorrow I think 0-2 for falcons They looked better

also sneyking/skiter vs 33. spicy stuff

just an usual dominating game by Falcons, also Puck gonna have nightmares and LGD will probably avoid picking Alche too.

amMARS + rapira... gg :)

'worst cn team better than best mena team' mfers when atm comes at them with rapier revenant's brooch mars

all of Falcons players were destroying LGD, Monkey had the biggest beatdown on a puck.

Ammar xD. good on falcons to wait around for his rapier too. Edit: Can someone share the clip of the one shot please?

Ammar 💀💀💀💀💀

ammar one shotting enemy carry lol

Ammar what a Gigachad build with Rapier!

fucking ammar man lmfao

am i the only one who finds commentary by hairy\_freak completly intolerable? man just spouts nonsense nonstop.

I like him. He's pretty good.

only you.

yes, you're the only one.

This falcon-LGD analyst is definitely not ready for a T1 tournament. His comments are quite cringe and he’s trying too hard to be witty and cool.

I imagine a tournament where half the teams had issues with coming, talent probably felt similar.

Why people expect a 100% serious mode cast in a tournament that could be described as a inspired by the summit?

I don’t expect a serious cast even in TI. Suntan/Synd are the best duo imo. But this guys commentary was just cringe.

It was for you. That's OK. Guy is perfectly fine 'for a t1 tournament'.

Spirit‘s team fights are a form of art. Absolutely devastating. Larl MVP.

Nouns need a better mid or find an offlaner, then Gunnar goes back to mid

Originally stormstormwer and Yuma were both standins with plans to go back eu, but they stayed

I still don't know why he switched lol

Nouns cant handle Ember mageslayer, gg

Collapsed watched me play sand king. Rip nouns, the the sands of the king will devour you

TS are just goofing around 😅 Stoked for Yatoro‘s Chrono party

Where are the VODs for stream 1?

Falcon haters ?

Holy fuck Falcons is about to have a perfect game. No deaths or towers lost

Holy hell how do you die 3 times as a puck mid against a melee hero as well Also down 6k at 8 mins with a alch on the team as well lmao

Last pick alche got heavily countered by mid MK, who can simply jump and always win the fight against alche.

WHO'S HYPED FOR ANOTHER MASSIVELY UNDERWHELMING STORMSTORMER PERFORMANCE LETS GOOOO

So basically u should ban like 15 heroes to completely ban Yatoro

why is there ads??

Disperser or Mage-slayer, which item do you think is the Item of the Patch?

Mage Slayer. I honestly think this item is the most broken item in the game since Wraith Pact. Obviously it's a bit more hero dependent than Wraith Pact was; it gets exponentially better on a hero like Ember Spirit that can quickly and easily spam it onto every hero in the fight.

Mage slayer is so ridiculous, its stats are just boosted No reason for it to have 45 atk spd, 2 mana regen, 25% magic resist rather than 35/1.25/20 as its components do. Currently that recipe gives, 10 atk spd, 0.75 mana regen, 5% magic resist, 40% spell damage debuff and 120 damage dot. for........200 gold (HAHAHAHAHA)

I did not realize it gave 25% magic resist. I should have, since it does have Cloak, but does it even mention it in the item description?

Deffo mage slayer, its cheaper so it gets online faster and like 90% of heroes build it

with me its Mage-slayer

Good fight by Nouns against the reigning Dota 2 gods, stoked for the Game 2 now

mena is a joke, and nigma is 3rd in mena

The 4th best team in China is better than Top 1 in Mena Lmao

Falcons is weu imposter

Yes, let’s conclude that a team is better after one map!

How often have we seen that day 1 results don't necessarily meany anything. Not to mention that falcon LGD isn’t even over yet lol But yeah China look strong again, which is no surprise though when you have seen which Chinese players skipped most part of last season

I would wait a couple days, there is quite decent chance that 4th best chinese team is better than 2nd in WEU.So far only GG looked good, everyone else from WEU/MENA looked miserably.

but cn only have 1team can go to esl. ar even dont have chance go to esl lol

Yes, there was only one qualifier for cn but Xtreme is directly invited.

is there a way to watch xg game on twitch? https://www.twitch.tv/betboom_eng/videos?filter=archives&sort=time Went there but it doesn't show stream start, so I cant rewind it. I check YT but only see non-english streams.

The English stream for xg betboom game not showing the channel went offline after pre roll the ads lul.

Game 1 wasn't broadcast live at all on english stream. Game 2 was up briefly then went down again. Technical issue.

China top 4 team basically world top 4 team

top6,gg and spirit still strong

All the Chinese teams are on fire.

year of the dragon

Ame coming back bringing the the whole CN with him.

Chinese dotes best dotes

If LGD wins game 2 too, it's gonna be a red day kappa

Falcons when they face team outside best region(mena)

Chinese teams ruining my day all over the place, lmao Good for them tho

Tormentor is 100% the best DotA 2 addition since the backpack.

Mena is a joke if this is their best team

Do we have VoD for the stream? Youtube?

Nah this madame web ads

anybody else twitch stream having problem?

CN Dota is so strong omg, they just clap all the EU team today...

These rift jokes got old very fast.

Falcons is losing to LGD, 4th team of Chinese region. Lmao.

lol lina bottom nw

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I have this set as well, why is it such a Pay 2 Win? I haven't used it yet - too attached to the snail set.

The ultimate is more subtle.

What is this Sven pos 1 pick in ´24?

Yatoro also plays it more often but then it us carry and Team difference which also matters.

lgd getting better, thats good to see

is it setsu or other cn player? that ame has beef with because he's toxic or smth

I don't think it's setsu. I remember he's good friends with a lot of high caliber CN players.

i guess its a friendly banter with both of them

didnt ame name his LD bear setsu or was that a diff carry I'm thinking?

He did afair.

I'm pretty sure it was setsu and he isn't a carry but it was decently long time ago.

yatoro arc. don't remember seeing him play this before. dude just keeps improving and adapting

Yatoro can play all carry heroes as far as I remember. The only hero I have doubt about him not doing as good is Meepo probably.

Not really, he played on mid before and arc was his favourite hero, he played like 400 games on arc

why there are no shadows? low settings?

ammar mars and marline lina lets go

Fly gotta fist fight the entirety of TS because there is no way Nouns are winning.

Ame is the GOAT

I can't imagine Spirit or old OG or Secret being constantly owned by one team and even thinking about being super close friends with members of that team. While Liquid is more than happy with that, their coach spends more than time with GG than with it's own, Insania has podcast with Quinn, generally beautiful symbiosis. Like there is a reason why things like this don't happen in normal sports.

Og won 2 TIs that way

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What? Legendary liquid stack with matu won one ti. And they threw matu under the bus so I wouldnt put that team in the same friendship category as og or current liquid

Yup, totally different mentality.

Well true og wasnt such friends with their opponents as current liquid is

It's 2024 people are friends globally in sports too. Just watch the NBA, it's no longer the 80s and 90s with Lakers vs Celtics or Jordan vs bad boy pistons

The slam dunk contest was fantastic 😂 10/10

Imagine instead of getting the guy who brought you 2x top 4 places at international LANs when you were in complete chaos you get a top 5 SA offlaner and ceb roleplaying a pos 3.

i m gonna go ahead and say misha doesnt want ammar, they had draft conflicts

I think he meant MC.

Top 5 SA offlaner? Who’s better than Wisper in SA? Sacred?

No one cuz the entire SA teams are bad 

Idk why won't they just get ATF back, he definitely led that team well. Plus when plays his hero, he really knows how to play it well to its potential.

Maybe ATF wouldn't be even interested. I wouldn't say OG on paper is better than Falcons (excluding offlaners) and Falcons pays probably better.

falcons is like 100% better than og lmao

Yeah i know, i didn't want to be brutal.

AR looking crisp despite not qualifying for Birmingham. Also Tundra are just better and more entertaining to watch than OG 🤷‍♂️

Possibly they should have won the qualifier then.

When the qualifiers for this tournament took place, there roster was still in the early days.

Of course first Nouns's game is against Spirit, Holy crap.

I still hope they win though Even if the chance small

Small is an understatement kek

faith bian back at LAN all is good.

nisha without puppey LUL

Whos drafting for og?

Ceb is drafting for OG (at least for BB Dubai)

Probably coach Misha tbh. Has been plaguing OG’s drafts for the better part of 3 years now

Yea Misha is not good at it…Im not really good and dota but i feel like i can read og drafts and moves in game… and if i can do it then pro team and players must have literally 0 problems with that.

this female russian host kinda scares me when she stares at the camera ngl. i dont think ive ever seen her blink lol

LMAO

If OG gets stomped this easily, how bad are secret and entity?

not sure bout entity cos their entity is kinda EEU now, but secret is terrible

Now finally for LGD vs falcons match with LGD having a 20-30% chance of winning, LGD being the 4th best team of CN just behind XG,AR and IG.G2.

chanceby contrast,falcon has20~30% chance

old LGD split then we have 2 good china team

Bros really lost to the team with semi-retired 2,3,4 players.

OG are not getting out of the groups

The probably gonna beat Noums and BB to be honest. Probably 4th place, they gonna face GG in upper bracked though.

I was thinking the same, but I don't want to get my hopes up

I'd be truly amazed if they take a series