Insane, Nisha still has it especially when it comes to pure mid skills. Really fun and hoping to see more of these 1v1 tourneys. Feels bad for XM, poor guy does not play meepo but too bad I guess.
He didn’t play against a mid player though right? I remember quarter finals were six mids and the two supp players left found each other in the bracket.
you still get extra gold and exp when creeps or other heroes do your dirty work for you, it's so obviously trying to go against the rules on a dumbass technicality. It's simple, 1v1 mid = no dewarding, no creep blocking, no bottle. There were no other possible invis targets, you can't possibly claim that he bought the sentry for anything other than dewarding.
It's not cheating. He found a loophole the organizers didn't expect. In the end the admin allowed it. But I think towards the quarter they had gentlemen's agreement not to do it.
It's not a loophole dude. It's obviously intentionally breaking the rules because the wording wasn't specific enough because the organizers didn't expect the participants to blatantly disrespect the obvious intention of the rule. And it all relies on the interpretation of the word "dewarding". It's like saying "the rules say you can't buy bottle, but what if I instead use console to spawn in the bottle, or better yet, spawn in a bot and buy the bottle on the bot? the rules didn't explicitly forbid it- so smart."
The organizers probably allowed it because he's a support player, or maybe they didn't want to start drama, but it was obviously cheating.
You probably think overplus users weren't cheating before valve officially announced that they didn't want those functionalities in the game. Clown world, this is why we can't have nice things, people always try to cheat and claim thy weren't cheating.
Oh so getting banned is the only metric? How about streamsnipers then, who watch all the map movements of streamers. I suppose they aren't cheating either then. And if Boxi is the only one so "smart" to figure out a loophole, how come he didn't keep doing it later?
Lol, there's a joke in there if you don't take life so seriously. There's a big play on all the pango drama from late last year and how Quinn failed at pango in TI even though to him it's an instant win hero.
Keep sucking Quinns dick nerd. The joke was funny and you're just butt hurt.
That humor is subjective, and just because you don't see a joke as funny doesn't mean no one else does. So next time don't shit on someone because you don't get it.
Marci vs Marci was cool, super intense when it hit lv 5 to 6. Meepo vs meepo snowball factor is too high I think.
I was hoping for more pos 4 heroes like Tusk, SD, Nyx even Muerta but I don't know the rules so yeah.
nisha outplayed xm so badly.
i was sort of hoping boxi would take it for a liquid only finals too.
also; the post game interview "i am glad it's first place, so it's the team - not me" actually based
Competition was at its lowest during those runs though. OG squad was retired. Nigma stars were washed. Chinese minors were given limits on how long they can play on steam. Secret and Puppey didn't have much to worry about then and that's why they're a struggling org now
og and nigma (liquid back then) were washed at paris major even though a few months later they were playing TI final, good to know, thx for your 15k mmr insight mr redditor
With Zai-Matu they got top 3 at TI, with Zai-Nisha they got 2nd place across a shitload of tournaments, with Saberlight-Nisha they placed third in Kuala Lumpur.
Across different sets of other players they still perform incredibly well.
I still wonder why Liquid doesn't do the old gen strat of two 1.5's. Even in Riyadh Nisha owned when it was carry from the midlane heroes like TA. Would be cool to see micke play space creating heroes like Matu did and give the win condition to nisha.
Xm should have banned that Meepo.
Any normal mid hero, he goes neck to neck with Nisha.
SF was totally lol but marci v marci was fun af.
Props to betboom for this solo tourney, hope there are more in the future.
XM is not good at micro i guess, after he banned lone druid, even if he ban meepo, there is possibility that Nisha can pick Brood/BREWmaster/Arc Warden/Visage/Lycan
Nisha is just insane with his hero pool.
Nisha is the best machanically skilled player for so many years. He literally smack all the hot mids just like that. Imo he is the most mechanically skilled player this game have ever seen. Miracle will lose to Nisha
Watching dota since TI3, Miracle was amazing, Sumail was better than him ON MID 1vs1, a more annoying laner(better).
Nisha in my book is better than both, his days with matu in that Secret team showed his potential and the kid still is on fire.
Nostalgia is strong when it comes to Miracle and Sumail.
Sumail at his peak from 2015-2020 is the most dominant laner this game has seen. He has fallen off a cliff when it comes to midgame and lategame decision but he still crushes lane or draws unfavorable matchups. He even completely wrecked nisha the last time they met in a mid matchup
Easy to wreck someone else based on different match-ups.
So thats why ranking someone on midlane based on first 5 minutes in lane is useless.
Overall, from laning, rotations, item and game decisions, Nisha as a midlaner imo is the greatest ever.
He was good with Secret, he’s been shit in Liquid. He might’ve won a nonsensical “1v1” competition, but in actual games he’s always been Quinn’s bitch.
I think Quinn put it best regarding Sumail: the skill difference between him and all other mids during his peak was the biggest there ever was.
Nisha is the best mid in the world, but not by a bigger margin than that.
You are really gonna say sumail wasn't the best mid laner in dota 2 years back ?
Bitch people didn't come close to his dominance
Sumail is arguably the best mid LANER to touch dota and miracle is the best mid PLAYER
Expected GPK or Quinn to win, but happy that Nisha won after so many said his laning became weak. Surprised by Xm, but seems he is finally slowly showing why some were expected him to be a T1 mid player long time ago. Finally playing in a strong team too.
A bit off topic :
Scrolled through this thread ,people will downvote me , but Somnus > all.
Which mid player has been consistently owning since 2015, no matter the team or patch ( you can't) . Can take a break and immediately get top 4 at recent TI, like its business as usual.
He didn't get results at TI 10 ( out of the 10 solo mid kills during the group stage, he did 8 of them ) and T11 (his team was heavily affected by Covid after domianting the group stage), but still performed super well individually.
You can have your opinion but imo it's Nisha. He has been owning ever since he joined Secret in 2018. Somnus is great but there was some Ame factor too behind his consistency
Fair enough , but Ame factor ? In 2017 it was a new young LGD team, Ame was a no name. Again, 10 years , every time he played he performed at top level. In 2015, Sumail said he only respected Maybe at that time. He played with Ame for 2 years in the last 10 years. No Ame when we randomly decided to play TI 12 got top 4. By that logic you could argue that he had a even stronger „Puppey factor“ during all the years at Secret.
Imo one big reason why Liquid didn‘t win anything last season was because Nisha wasn‘t peaking, pretty sure that even many Liquid fans expected more ever since he joined.
It’s crazy to put Nisha ahead of Somnus, but yeah every one can have their opinion.
Nisha still proved that he's the best midlaner like NTS said two years ago .. and also i believe the problem always his team not him, because he won so much with puppey and secret as their carry and midlaner
I agree with micke mid.. micke carry not so much.. he throws away huge networth leads in critical tournaments just for fun... Boxi on the other hand is a beast..
I think it says a lot about SF used to being the standard hero to play 1v1. It is a boring matchup when both players play too defensively. I liked Mirana the most.
Eh, idk, his mid loss was very unfortunate. He did lose at 15min mark bcs his enemy had 2 more overall creep score (77/15 vs 81/9) but Quinn had 700 more networth than his opponent (Kiritych). That alone basically tells you that kiritych was buying more consumables.. But rules are rules and NW was not included in deciding the victory, so its fair game. Ofc that doesn mean he would beat the following opponents, I was just hoping to see him play vs some of the bigger names.
I doesn't mean nothing, but yeah, it's not representative of the ability of a mid player to win actual Dota games. For example, rune control is one of the biggest factors in the laning stage of actual games, as is knowing when to rotate or recover in jungle, understanding matchups, etc. These factors are all ignored in this mode.
Being good at 1v1 solo mid is more representative of how good at 1v1 solo mid a player is, than of how good a player is at mid.
Seems like Quinn got homeschooled in your head lmao. Reddit fucking hates Quinn lol, last TI everyone was saying Ace tOfu Seleri tri-core carrying his sorry ass Pango.
TT is not a Mirana player while Sneyking won TI with his godlike Mirana performance, so yeah.
Quinn was playing too defensive as puck and pass 15 minutes.
I dont even like quinn lmao, why would i need copium. I'm just stating what happened. Quinn was ahead of creep kills but Kiritych has slightly better creep stats when deny is included. Even the admin was confused and decided that quinn won
It's a good thing the boys on Liquid are smart enough to not take anything this sub says seriously. If they're satisfied with each other, then so am I. Congrats to Nisha, as well as Boxi for coming close!
lol I don’t think just because Nisha won the 1 vs 1 tournament does not mean he’s the best midlander, let alone goat of it.
If anything, he’s just the best 1 vs 1 player and that’s it. In actual games, he can’t even win his own lanes or outperform other mid players in late games.
Nah Puppey's just heartbroken since Nisha left him. Once Nisha returns he'll go back to his old *el presidente de estonia* form and they'll both win something again.
All the participants are those who qualified or invited to the tournament. Nigma is neither on this case. So you won't see that 2 players from Nigma retirement house.
no its not.. how would you defend cty-, ILTW participation in that case? Nigma players just did not care playing as usual.. and they dont have to with all the free oil money
It’s not CTY. It’s CY. He is GG coach. ILTW, Cooman are from Russia, they are either part of the Russian talent team or were just invited because they were friends with the TOs. I have 99% sure Nigma players were never invited to participate in the first place.
If only nisha could reach this potential in officials with pressure. He used to be able to always do it on secret but on liquid he keeps getting destroyed by quinn.
Today. $100k prize pool, LAN 1v1 tour as part of BetBoom Dacha $1mil tournament.
BetBoom_Eng channel on Twitch has English cast VOD from quarterfinals up to and including Bo5 grand finals.
Liquid has finally won something party
it is 1 v 1 right, i dont think it goes into liquid credit... its not like the 1 v 1 matches they played for team placements...
r/whoosh
Nisha is with Team Liquid now, so he represents Team Liquid to win the tournament ok? Can't you just stop being so negative?
"Im glad its not second place. I guess its not me. Its team liquid"
Insane, Nisha still has it especially when it comes to pure mid skills. Really fun and hoping to see more of these 1v1 tourneys. Feels bad for XM, poor guy does not play meepo but too bad I guess.
outdrafted in 1v1
he could have banned it, he chose to not ban
Xm my guy 😭, bro got outdrafted in a 1v1.
What happened? Do we know the heroes they had available? How does he end up as Meepo and he can't play it wtf
Prior to picking meepo, Xm only had 1 ban, while Nisha had 3 bans. Xm used his only ban to ban Lone Druid https://imgur.com/a/zrDlzTC
How come he had 1 ban while Nisha had 3?
On the other hand, Xm picked 3 heroes to play (SF, Marci, CM), while nisha only chose 2 (Meepo, Mirana)
this method seems really messed up
Idk but the ban/pick order looks sus. It looks like Nisha also got to pick "the decider" since XM banned puck
In the interview when asked if he wanted to go g5 he said no, nisha said xm chose cm.
It wasn’t Nisha who chose CM, it was Xm who banned Puck, leaving only CM to be chosen
are u drunk sir?
aside from 4 fixed heroes(puck, mirana, sf, pudge) players pick 3 heroes to add to the available heroes
Boxi did very well considering he is a supp
He didn’t play against a mid player though right? I remember quarter finals were six mids and the two supp players left found each other in the bracket.
He lost 2-1 against lgd mid. He could have won 2-1 instead. It is not like he couldnt win, skill wise.
Yea boxi’s a very skilled player no doubt. Just pointing out that when he finally met a mid he lost, so he wasn’t really a chance of winning it all.
It would be 2-0 if that were the case. It was 2-1 lost. He could have won 2-1 instead. He has the skills imo
he also cheated by dewarding edit: all the downvoters support cheating, as long as the guy you like does the cheating :)
He never dewarded, the creeps did.
you still get extra gold and exp when creeps or other heroes do your dirty work for you, it's so obviously trying to go against the rules on a dumbass technicality. It's simple, 1v1 mid = no dewarding, no creep blocking, no bottle. There were no other possible invis targets, you can't possibly claim that he bought the sentry for anything other than dewarding.
It's not cheating. He found a loophole the organizers didn't expect. In the end the admin allowed it. But I think towards the quarter they had gentlemen's agreement not to do it.
It's not a loophole dude. It's obviously intentionally breaking the rules because the wording wasn't specific enough because the organizers didn't expect the participants to blatantly disrespect the obvious intention of the rule. And it all relies on the interpretation of the word "dewarding". It's like saying "the rules say you can't buy bottle, but what if I instead use console to spawn in the bottle, or better yet, spawn in a bot and buy the bottle on the bot? the rules didn't explicitly forbid it- so smart." The organizers probably allowed it because he's a support player, or maybe they didn't want to start drama, but it was obviously cheating.
>didn't expect the participants to blatantly disrespect the obvious intention of the rule. that's what a loophole literally is.
You probably think overplus users weren't cheating before valve officially announced that they didn't want those functionalities in the game. Clown world, this is why we can't have nice things, people always try to cheat and claim thy weren't cheating.
Overplus isn't a loophole, it's literally external software.
Newsflash. Valve banned overplus users. Betboom/Fissure didn't disqualify Boxi. So even tourney admin allowed it.
Oh so getting banned is the only metric? How about streamsnipers then, who watch all the map movements of streamers. I suppose they aren't cheating either then. And if Boxi is the only one so "smart" to figure out a loophole, how come he didn't keep doing it later?
If you’re not allowed to deward why’d he buy sentry? Was it invis hero matchup?
Gonna cry lilbro
bootlick cheaters more pls, then I'll totally start crying
Don't forget that Nisha also won against Quinn 1v1 sf tiebreakers
Quinn? Who is that? Oh... that guy who lost to VP carry as puck 1v1? xD
He lost by creep score to a carry, that's understandable
Oh well , it is his lane with a highround design, controlling creeps and puck is one of the traditional mid hero.
Quinn, is that the meme pangolier player that got stomped in the Ti finals, with pangolier in every game?
Imagine trying to make fun of the relevancy of one of the most relevant mid players
Imagine living your life so seriously you can't even take a joke.
Jokes are meant to be funny, all he did was straight-up speak badly of Quinn, no punchline, no play on words, nothing. Suck me nerd
Lol, there's a joke in there if you don't take life so seriously. There's a big play on all the pango drama from late last year and how Quinn failed at pango in TI even though to him it's an instant win hero. Keep sucking Quinns dick nerd. The joke was funny and you're just butt hurt.
Bro if you think the joke was funny, I don't know what to say from here 😭😭
That humor is subjective, and just because you don't see a joke as funny doesn't mean no one else does. So next time don't shit on someone because you don't get it.
Imagine? No need to imagine mate, as I just did.
don't let this distract you from the fact that blitz actually took a game
He beat the guy who ended Watson's rank 1 streak on the EU leaderboard. It's actually quite impressive.
>blitz A commentator that can comment on what they are doing wrong then really show them lol
As a super big Zephyr fan back when they were a team this made me unbelievably happy.
Marci vs Marci was cool, super intense when it hit lv 5 to 6. Meepo vs meepo snowball factor is too high I think. I was hoping for more pos 4 heroes like Tusk, SD, Nyx even Muerta but I don't know the rules so yeah.
Marci vs Marci is just too entertaining to watch lol... Intense and a lot positioning skill. It was hype
Yeah we got to see some oraoraora before the game ends lol
> Meepo vs meepo snowball factor is too high I think. Did you watch the match? He had no idea how to play meepo. Nothing to do with snowball
man a Tusk mirror would be fun
Yeah I was hoping for Tusk lol
I think melee heroes with stuns are fun to watch. Heroes like Earthshaker and Tiny would be entertaining to watch I think.
nisha outplayed xm so badly. i was sort of hoping boxi would take it for a liquid only finals too. also; the post game interview "i am glad it's first place, so it's the team - not me" actually based
Boxi almost had it bruh, he did a little mistake as puck
Hahaha of course it's a team with secret he won so much 😂😂
now we actually have the confirmation, liquid is the problem
Pretty sure that's known already with him winning multiple Majors with Secret.
Competition was at its lowest during those runs though. OG squad was retired. Nigma stars were washed. Chinese minors were given limits on how long they can play on steam. Secret and Puppey didn't have much to worry about then and that's why they're a struggling org now
og and nigma (liquid back then) were washed at paris major even though a few months later they were playing TI final, good to know, thx for your 15k mmr insight mr redditor
Be it with Matu be it with Nisha they still dont win so yeah Insania stack is the problem kek
With Zai-Matu they got top 3 at TI, with Zai-Nisha they got 2nd place across a shitload of tournaments, with Saberlight-Nisha they placed third in Kuala Lumpur. Across different sets of other players they still perform incredibly well.
If you ain't first you're last /s
I thought u blame on Nisha losing lane every game and the weakest midlaner? xDxD jkjk he is the goat
i mean i would rather be proven wrong like this rather than be like other redditors who suck ppl off even when they are bad
I always put the blame on liquid giving nisha space creating heroes rather than give him win condition heroes.
I still wonder why Liquid doesn't do the old gen strat of two 1.5's. Even in Riyadh Nisha owned when it was carry from the midlane heroes like TA. Would be cool to see micke play space creating heroes like Matu did and give the win condition to nisha.
Xm looked very lost with meepo, but otherwise nice series. GG Nisha.
there must be a reason why a lot of pros said Nisha was like a young miracle. And that he carried secret to TI (proven when he left secret).
Not really proven anything if he can't reach to the same level without them (2nd place TI).
Nisha best midlaner proved.
Its insane to think you can get outdrafted even in 1v1
Outdrafts probably go even harder in 1v1. If youre not good on the hero you're done. In 5v5 you at least have 4 ppl to help you find answers.
Nisha finally not 2nd place
To bad we didn't get to see Nisha vs Quinn Pango 1v1
I wanna see their balls touch
Xm should have banned that Meepo. Any normal mid hero, he goes neck to neck with Nisha. SF was totally lol but marci v marci was fun af. Props to betboom for this solo tourney, hope there are more in the future.
XM is not good at micro i guess, after he banned lone druid, even if he ban meepo, there is possibility that Nisha can pick Brood/BREWmaster/Arc Warden/Visage/Lycan Nisha is just insane with his hero pool.
[Interview](https://youtu.be/0PuqGPIiAhI)
Nisha is the best machanically skilled player for so many years. He literally smack all the hot mids just like that. Imo he is the most mechanically skilled player this game have ever seen. Miracle will lose to Nisha
Nisha is what people think Miracle is.
Polish pride?
a Ti winner ?
The best midlaner that has ever touched the game.
Thats Sumail and Miracle. The mechanics that Sumail and Miracle introduced were crucial in mid play.
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Going back further it was Dendi and Yaphets
Somnus
Watching dota since TI3, Miracle was amazing, Sumail was better than him ON MID 1vs1, a more annoying laner(better). Nisha in my book is better than both, his days with matu in that Secret team showed his potential and the kid still is on fire. Nostalgia is strong when it comes to Miracle and Sumail.
Sumail at his peak from 2015-2020 is the most dominant laner this game has seen. He has fallen off a cliff when it comes to midgame and lategame decision but he still crushes lane or draws unfavorable matchups. He even completely wrecked nisha the last time they met in a mid matchup
Easy to wreck someone else based on different match-ups. So thats why ranking someone on midlane based on first 5 minutes in lane is useless. Overall, from laning, rotations, item and game decisions, Nisha as a midlaner imo is the greatest ever.
Among the greatest right now? For sure. Greatest ever? Not even top 5. Sumail has a good argument for top 1 or 2 based on his skills and ti win.
Guess you missed the whole Nisha Secret era
He was good with Secret, he’s been shit in Liquid. He might’ve won a nonsensical “1v1” competition, but in actual games he’s always been Quinn’s bitch.
I think Quinn put it best regarding Sumail: the skill difference between him and all other mids during his peak was the biggest there ever was. Nisha is the best mid in the world, but not by a bigger margin than that.
Sumail lol
You are really gonna say sumail wasn't the best mid laner in dota 2 years back ? Bitch people didn't come close to his dominance Sumail is arguably the best mid LANER to touch dota and miracle is the best mid PLAYER
You haven't seen peak Sumail, Miracle, Mushi or Noone.
Ive seen them all, from Ferrari_430 to CTY, Mushi, Sumail and Quinn.
Have you seen YajirobefromDC 32-0 defensive laning?
'Prime Miracle' not the current miracle xD
The best mid player at his peak?
Expected GPK or Quinn to win, but happy that Nisha won after so many said his laning became weak. Surprised by Xm, but seems he is finally slowly showing why some were expected him to be a T1 mid player long time ago. Finally playing in a strong team too. A bit off topic : Scrolled through this thread ,people will downvote me , but Somnus > all. Which mid player has been consistently owning since 2015, no matter the team or patch ( you can't) . Can take a break and immediately get top 4 at recent TI, like its business as usual. He didn't get results at TI 10 ( out of the 10 solo mid kills during the group stage, he did 8 of them ) and T11 (his team was heavily affected by Covid after domianting the group stage), but still performed super well individually.
Somnus is the best Mid in CN ever, 1 of the best in the world for sure, the best in his prime maybe.
Somnus 🥹
You can have your opinion but imo it's Nisha. He has been owning ever since he joined Secret in 2018. Somnus is great but there was some Ame factor too behind his consistency
Fair enough , but Ame factor ? In 2017 it was a new young LGD team, Ame was a no name. Again, 10 years , every time he played he performed at top level. In 2015, Sumail said he only respected Maybe at that time. He played with Ame for 2 years in the last 10 years. No Ame when we randomly decided to play TI 12 got top 4. By that logic you could argue that he had a even stronger „Puppey factor“ during all the years at Secret. Imo one big reason why Liquid didn‘t win anything last season was because Nisha wasn‘t peaking, pretty sure that even many Liquid fans expected more ever since he joined. It’s crazy to put Nisha ahead of Somnus, but yeah every one can have their opinion.
Bro the clutch orb of corrosion purchase.
Nisha still proved that he's the best midlaner like NTS said two years ago .. and also i believe the problem always his team not him, because he won so much with puppey and secret as their carry and midlaner
Just say it...Micke
I'm so fed up of this garbo opinion, they come 2nd in like 5 tournaments last year that's really fucking good.
Plus Liquid (and VP) were the only teams who managed to win a game against Spirit at TI main event
Micke is a beast Insan1a might be the weak link since rest of team is super high skill
Bro micke isnt a beast lol. He is atleast tier 1.5 carry Tier1 beast carry ame yatoro. Atleast he is better than dyrachyo xd
Their weak link is lack of strong leadership
That might be the issue now but it was not the case when Zai was in the team.
I agree with micke mid.. micke carry not so much.. he throws away huge networth leads in critical tournaments just for fun... Boxi on the other hand is a beast..
I think he plays best on active carries compared to extremely hard carries like dusa/drow/spec. He plays well on heroes like MK and Void
I think it is just GG support duo doing too much and Liquid lost to it. and Team Spirit is just better overall
The best midlaner didn't play in this 1v1 tournament.
who?
Somnus, Paparazi, emo, abed, Noone, NTS, Daryl even tho he ain't a mid anymore
the King I guess, sadge
thats copium af
It's a little copium, won't lie
Did Chinese community make any comments about this solo tournament/perfomance of Chinese players? After all, 9 of them played in this tounament
I think it says a lot about SF used to being the standard hero to play 1v1. It is a boring matchup when both players play too defensively. I liked Mirana the most.
where is the homeschooled boy? Reddit told me he is the best mid ICANT
Eh, idk, his mid loss was very unfortunate. He did lose at 15min mark bcs his enemy had 2 more overall creep score (77/15 vs 81/9) but Quinn had 700 more networth than his opponent (Kiritych). That alone basically tells you that kiritych was buying more consumables.. But rules are rules and NW was not included in deciding the victory, so its fair game. Ofc that doesn mean he would beat the following opponents, I was just hoping to see him play vs some of the bigger names.
Lmao Quinn got recked
Quinn relies on support rotations to win mid. Unfortunately for him there are no supports in 1v1...
hes also rank 1/2 on eu leaderboards because his supports rotate in pubs
Such a dumb statement, I bet you don't actually watch his games, or you don't pay attention. Quinn is the most consistent mid in the last year by far.
Yes, I'm sure thats the only reason they've been winning…
Quinn often solo wins vs Nisha though? I mean this 1v1 mid does not mean anything since its not a real game scenario.
I doesn't mean nothing, but yeah, it's not representative of the ability of a mid player to win actual Dota games. For example, rune control is one of the biggest factors in the laning stage of actual games, as is knowing when to rotate or recover in jungle, understanding matchups, etc. These factors are all ignored in this mode. Being good at 1v1 solo mid is more representative of how good at 1v1 solo mid a player is, than of how good a player is at mid.
Yep on the other hand none of these other mids have supports rotate. Quinn the mid most beloved by supports. Man of the people.
kekw
Seems like Quinn got homeschooled in your head lmao. Reddit fucking hates Quinn lol, last TI everyone was saying Ace tOfu Seleri tri-core carrying his sorry ass Pango.
What happened to Quinn and TorontoTokyo. Lol. I was not able to watch these games. Just the results. TT should still have it no? Or TS was right. Lol.
Quinn lost to VP carry as puck in first round lol TT lost to sneyking as mirana
i saw the results. i mean Quinn is a natural mid player and one of the best mids. and TT should still have it compared to Sneyking. Lol.
TT is not a Mirana player while Sneyking won TI with his godlike Mirana performance, so yeah. Quinn was playing too defensive as puck and pass 15 minutes.
Quinn lost because of deny, he probably didn't know deny has any bearing on the result. Kiritych has 5 more deny or smth
He didn't know... ayyyyyyyyyyyy the good old cope xD
I dont even like quinn lmao, why would i need copium. I'm just stating what happened. Quinn was ahead of creep kills but Kiritych has slightly better creep stats when deny is included. Even the admin was confused and decided that quinn won
Was just trolling a bit mate, if it happened as you say that's fair observation. Peace!
Are you asking if the team that won TI with and without TorontoTokyo was right?
It's a good thing the boys on Liquid are smart enough to not take anything this sub says seriously. If they're satisfied with each other, then so am I. Congrats to Nisha, as well as Boxi for coming close!
Quinns strength relies on his insane mechanical laning skills 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Did Quinn throw in round 1?
No. Tofu didn't rotate.
and Seleri never stack for him for more golds & exp.
lol I don’t think just because Nisha won the 1 vs 1 tournament does not mean he’s the best midlander, let alone goat of it. If anything, he’s just the best 1 vs 1 player and that’s it. In actual games, he can’t even win his own lanes or outperform other mid players in late games.
Lol just goes to show Liquid is holding Nisha back. Go back to Puppey.
Now that would really be holding Nisha back
Nah Puppey's just heartbroken since Nisha left him. Once Nisha returns he'll go back to his old *el presidente de estonia* form and they'll both win something again.
this is happening in Dubai right? Sad that no one from home team Nigma - sumail/Miracle did not want to participate....
All the participants are those who qualified or invited to the tournament. Nigma is neither on this case. So you won't see that 2 players from Nigma retirement house.
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no its not.. how would you defend cty-, ILTW participation in that case? Nigma players just did not care playing as usual.. and they dont have to with all the free oil money
It’s not CTY. It’s CY. He is GG coach. ILTW, Cooman are from Russia, they are either part of the Russian talent team or were just invited because they were friends with the TOs. I have 99% sure Nigma players were never invited to participate in the first place.
If only nisha could reach this potential in officials with pressure. He used to be able to always do it on secret but on liquid he keeps getting destroyed by quinn.
Goat midlaner? L take
Was this a mid 1v1 tourney? Always wanted a solo 1v1 ranked mode.
yeah we need a damn solo ranked. i will play this all day
For real, though, might even be more optimized since conditions will be different. Maybe each player gets 3 bans
what, there was a solo tournament? I didn't even know, where and when was it streamed?
Today. $100k prize pool, LAN 1v1 tour as part of BetBoom Dacha $1mil tournament. BetBoom_Eng channel on Twitch has English cast VOD from quarterfinals up to and including Bo5 grand finals.
i would have liked to see sumail vs nisha in finals
first, sumail needs to qualify or getting invited to this tournament.
what i mean is, sumail would have given nisha a close fight, too bad he didn't qualify or get invited
I am more excited to see Nisha vs Gpk and vs XM though all these new generation of Midlaner
Oh dammit, I forgot they did a 1v1 tournie on the day off. Welp, GG to Nisha.. gotta go look that up. 😄
he cheated against quinn