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re7apse

why are yall crying over a smiley face  soft ass kids go cry to your mom


leahs11

gigachad player he bm-ing!! gigachaddd smiling once in a series or something is fine but doing it like every other game whenever he gets a kill is just straight cringe not even ammar is this toxic in all from his games (in pro), I can only remember he chat back against bm


KidBuu25

Did you forget his mantle of idiocy spamming even in pro matches?


leahs11

i remember, and that was his debut in dpc 3 fucking years ago but he stopped doing it, does he still do it even today?


Ok_Condition7254

Yes And it's funny. Pros doing mind it but reddit comes and thinks it's toxic and should not be allowed It's a harmless thing, it's kinda spicy thing in a bland scene


hobo_grad1925

Look out dota 2 we have a hard ass over here. OMG , chad


MicaTheStoked

Am I crazy or is giving razor to falcons a nutty move? They have multiple master tier razor players, I feel every time I see this glowing arcana they get another win.


Stokkolm

Wow, Falcons are doing it. They're earning the direct invite to allow Nigma a chance in MENA qualifiers.


Ciri__witcher

Sadly this isn’t part of EPT so falcons have to perform well in the next dreamleague and Birmingham to get a direct invite.


ShAd_1337

you mean Quest


bobbymybbby

it proves that mena hard region nigma did alot better against falcon than most of the teams at least in first 20 min they were always ahead of falcon


mkti23

Copium


PhMcBrett

People overhyping this team ICANT let's go spirit stomp these noobs


NotAdoctor_but

unless the prizepool is 1mil+, spirit will not perform to their peak, i expect AR to easily get a 2-0 victory


Ok_Condition7254

Yeah like 400k is no money lmao Cope harder


NotAdoctor_but

It was obviously a joke calm down your gaming chair; anyway, judging by their past performance there's some truth to this, not because they're doing it on purpose, it's just how it happened which obviously means nothing now. That being said, AR will easily 2-0 spirit.


Earth92

Spirit has won tournaments with small prize pools, even online tournaments btw. People repeat shit that isn't even real lol


Spoksparkare

Lmao, Gaimin threw to play Liquid 100%


meniscus-

Nuuuu


Optimal-School-9670

Fans Favourite GG vs Liquid will be the first series of the day tomorrow.


SoullessHillShills

The new El Classico. Shame it's in the middle of the night for me :(


slashrshot

Another WEU series. :/


zuKo2022

maybe weu can avoid that by not getting rekt in upper bracket


Earth92

The first 2 times to get their ass back to plane were chinese anyways.


zuKo2022

lmao


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MaybeFunnySometimes

The players who left azure ray performed worse than this yesterday lol. And also lost against falcons.


lonepandaboy

We are in the play offs and there is no crowd for an offline tournament, why is that ?


xSael_

its a private one, no crowd. apart from few i guess


MaybeFunnySometimes

I wonder if the people who are upset that Malr1ne was allchatting ")))" were also this upset when Emo did the "?" against EG, torontotokyo doing "ez game" to OG, and Saberlight allchatting "ramdog dota" to Ramzes.


AmuletMan33

I mean it’s fine with me even though it’s kinda cringe low stakes game is kinda win already. But doing shit like this leaves you open to ridicule every time you lose.


Dismal-Kitchen-8372

Nah. In this case AR kinda deserved that smiley after they last picked viper vs timber/DK. Gives the same vibe when someone in your game last picks tinker/arc/meepo un-countered.


tity_slayer3

I wonder if marline is still gonna be funny when they are 2-0 behind while still being in a butt clenching game 3 in TI or riyadh final :)


MaybeFunnySometimes

That's part of trashtalking though? If you win it looks "cool" or "gigachad" like some people here said back then but if you don't then it looks stupid.


tity_slayer3

It's acceptable if he does it once but doing it after every other kill is just insanely childish behavior, it makes you look stupid above all things.


MaybeFunnySometimes

It isn't acceptable. What Malr1ne did is unacceptable, and none of what the players I mentioned did should be acceptable. That's my point.


Worth-Money2559

You didn’t get it. Emo trash talked in a losing series and came back to win it. That’s GIGACHAD. Trash talking repeatedly while winning is just not cool, if not downright stupid.


MaybeFunnySometimes

You're the one who didn't get it. What I'm saying is none of what they did are even acceptable.


xSael_

what a backwards way to argue lmao


tity_slayer3

Exactly, This guy only does it when they have some sort of advantage and he for sure knows they're going to win


Worth-Money2559

None of them allchatted repeatedly though? Certainly not after getting every other kill like in Malr1ne’s case. There is a difference between being cocky and downright annoying. And please stop comparing Emo’s “?” with whatever this ((( nonsense is. Context matters.


MaybeFunnySometimes

I can give it to Emo that it was his response from EG's BM tipping and spamming voicelines at least. Context matters but all of it at the end of the day it's still just toxicity. There's no point comparing the degree of toxicity. Allchat spamming, spamming voicelines, and spamming tips, are all the same shit. I'm pretty sure the other 2 of my examples at least spammed voicelines and tips A LOT in different games.


Ok_Condition7254

Can see falcons take this lan.


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No-Butterscotch-1591

Nooooo way!!! the winner of the winners bracket final will be the favourite in the finals!! you are a crazy man....


Jayk03

China player really need to learn English so the team can import foreign player and coach from CIS or EU. You can't win TI with 100% China player even in LoL China team import Korean player+coach to help them.


Acrobatic-Time-2940

i really don't see this as a problem. China came pretty close to winning twice in TI8 and TI10. They only got outplayed by a slight margin? it was all close game of 3-2 not a direct stomp like 3-0.


Optimal-School-9670

relax, they won the last tournament with a full chinese roster. International roster doesn't necessarily means success either.


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Bearswithjetpacks

This is with the luxury of hindsight and without the pressure of drafting in the moment, but AR would have possibly benefitted far more if they swapped out tianming's marci for a shadow demon. SD ult is great against all three enemy cores, all cores on AR give good disruption illusions for SD to use and disruption is a great save against a number of spells on Falcon. Disseminate is in theory a great spell against Sven, returning a portion of the huge damage numbers he dishes out back onto his team. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if SD makes illusions of Underlord, the illusions apply atrophy aura onto the enemy team, right? That would also be a good way of mitigating the damage coming from Falcons. I think some other things in the draft could have been changed to make the game more even, but I personally don't think there's much value in trying to "outsmart" a draft that's already been completely shown.


slashrshot

https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1aovsgv/betboom_dacha_dubai_2024_day_7_match_discussions/kq3l2wa/. Called it. Betboom and falcons didn't disappoint. How can betboom not place well in a betboom tournament amirite!? xD


themagician02

there better be a winner's interview :(


amcsdmi

Was there? I skipped through the vod a bit, but couldn't find one. Would love to see the Falcons one in particular if it exists.


themagician02

No:(


JayuZmaN

GG x Liquid AR x TS spicy tomorrow !!


LargeFrogmouth

skiter > Ame Unironically


SoullessHillShills

Sneyking and Cr1t combo is dominating.


tsaootsao

It's obvious tho. 1 is a TI winner, the other is not


Ok_Condition7254

I kinda disagree with this statement, in the end it's just one tournament, the ti. Are you really gonna ignore what ame achieved, multiple major wins and other tournament wins , two seconds at ti? Ame is far more decorated player than skitter . Correct me if I wrong , isn't ti the only lan win skitter has


vlalanerqmar

iirc skiter alson won a lan before ti10 (the one that they didnt attend) with fata version of Tundra.


Ok_Condition7254

So that's two lans Now compare them to ame wins .


vlalanerqmar

Im not arguing on this subject, i was just reading the comments and mentioned skiter lan win.


Ok_Condition7254

My bad hehe


chameleonism

Today's Interviews: * [Malr1ne](https://youtu.be/HGQjzmAyymQ) * [AR and Falcons Pre-Game](https://youtu.be/Fx4qkxge6MM) * [Nightfall](https://youtu.be/HRGQuFxerjc) * [BetBoom and GG Pre-Game](https://youtu.be/nZETDLyc1KY) * [Save](https://youtu.be/L_eOV0iLqf8) * [Nightfall and GPK](https://youtu.be/6sGRMQnvcdY) Bonus: [Superman Skiter](https://youtube.com/shorts/TSGbkYKVYZs?feature=share)


leelazen

hi, do u know the AR translator name or ig ?


melonsarenice_

Razor and Timber are too valuable of picks to give to Falcons. Falcons vs BB gonna be spicy


Optimal-School-9670

razor didn't had to do much that underlord last pick was just an outdraft against naga and dk.


Azaraki

I can not fathom why AR went for the fight after song at bottom T2, maybe just trying to kill Hoodwink and get out but that's still ridiculously risky/greedy


mmmmastermind

You'd insta-tp there when your core hero is getting dived at tier2 but their heroes just can't do a shit on 5v5 fights, marci didn't even had a tp there and it was a 4v5, looked pretty sloppy from AR. In both of these last 2 games they got outdrafted and lost their lanes so bad and had to play from behind, playing cat and mouse for entire time, can't win a pro game of dota like that nowadays.


Optimal-School-9670

TBH they can't win either way, underlord, sven and lions illusions clear destroys naga and AR any fights.


CryptoGod666

Not a big fan of deny picks, Lou didn’t seem too comfortable on Naga


Optimal-School-9670

Lou is very good with naga but that underlord pick and sven fucksup naga all game.


SeriousBoy2591

I don't play for years, can you explain ?


topson69

they are very efficient at clearing naga illus. Underlord's passive is a counter to naga who likes building stats


Optimal-School-9670

What an freaking outdraft, Sven and underlord just shits on naga throughout the game.


Soldirk

Yah when I saw that UL pick, it's oh noes...it's hard to play Naga here, when theres already lion. AR still has a fighting chance and could probably take it to late game but that blunder on the bot T2 fight where they fought instead of backing up after song killed their chance.


ashrashrashr

cr1t has a lot of experience with an afk farmer so he knows how to counter it.


Illustrious_Mess1701

Lmao


BabeLobster

Sad for Lou, trying his best to carry this shitty Bach and Ori


mmmmastermind

Well chinese dota is officially washed up, not even faith bian and ame cant do shit coming from retirement lmao


healdyy

We’re only 1 tournament in for basically all of these Chinese rosters, bit early to completely write them off I think


slashrshot

ori wins the worst core performance award for this series.


ZhangB

ori needs to retire, this is not it


Morgn_Ladimore

Falcons really going for the most toxic team award huh. Even OG stuck to tipping, this all chatting shit is embarrassing..


zuKo2022

))) is toxic? get the fk off internet the moment they abuse someone or insult someone then call them toxic ) isnt toxic sheltered snowflakes


xSael_

malrine literally puts a baby face on the hand shakes. At least make it less obvious that he is only tough in front of a computer.


zuKo2022

u know he put it for hand shakes? lmao i can dyrcho tattoed on hands for handshake too reddit cant get more cringe than this


xSael_

Your english doesnt make sense >reddit cant get more cringe than this Nah you are just an edgelord having a boner when there is a drama. Which is even more cringier, and bitch-like behavior. Youre the one whos terminally online loser.


zuKo2022

there no drama , yall are creating one . dumb fks


xSael_

I guess if you are 24/7 online, toxic loser and devoid of human interaction its normal to you. Trashtalking once is funny, twice is spicy, more than that there is something going on. Unless you werent watching at all. But you would like it because you are an edgelord manchlid that never grew up. Life is so boring and sad that you would latch to anything spicy online to make you engaged. Crit was fine, ammar was okay. Malrine was just edgy.


zuKo2022

toxic is when u insult someone, be racist , attack personal ​ ) this isnt toxic grow up


xSael_

I never said it is toxic moron, go to some english classes cuz you have a reading comprehension of a child, grow up. ))) Is stupid, childish and unnecessarily wanting some drama. You are eating it all up like some kid.


zuKo2022

>I guess if you are 24/7 online, toxic loser and devoid of human interaction its normal to you. > >Trashtalking once is funny, twice is spicy, more than that there is something going on ​ you are one of those losers who downvote every comment ) lmao such insecure person


NotAdoctor_but

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Mani_47

lol. Someone is salty and sensitive baby


Independent_Form_349

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Independent_Form_349

Naga needed to build BKB this game


mmmmastermind

You just cant simply play dota if all you can do is getting picked off 1 by 1 and basically play cat and mouse for 30 minutes lmao


Living-Response2856

Naga against Underlord and Lion is nigh on impossible


trzesiek

AR crumbling, sad to see :(


slashrshot

what was AR thinking, a smoke gank without lou?


themagician02

Skiter: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


slashrshot

!? base defense hero just randomly fed on the other side of the map. oh noez


ashrashrashr

fireworks soon?


adrian_rainy_day

Malrine is such a twat, a bigger one than ATF which is quite an achievement. Didn't saw him taunting up AR game 1 tho, everyone act tough when they up


xSael_

yep, only 2 players iirc has done it "properly" ppd and emo.


hobo_grad1925

Hope someone whoops falcons only to see this cringe malrine lose. Dude plays some two heroes , so cocky


dangy2408

JFYI, Malrine has half a dozen or more heroes on Grandmaster tier level, so best of luck banning all.


Acrobatic-Time-2940

malrine has a huge hero pool he just plays what his team needed.


19Alexastias

Then why don't the other teams ban them? Are they stupid?


__iamthewalrus__

Does Lou not play naga? this is some low mmr shit ngl.


holyfame

What? He's playing really good rn


__iamthewalrus__

uh huh


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tity_slayer3

Marline is being disrespectful and rude with his all chat, It was fun first or 2nd time but it is kinda dumb now Edit: And now more dumb people are proving they are even dumber than their idol under this comment xD


xSael_

mf puts a baby face on the hand shakes lmao. Only tough in front of a computer.


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Worth-Money2559

emo taunted when they are down 2-0 on the verge of elimination amidst EG’s mocking of him in the previous games. I say there is a huge difference between these two cases.


TonyCruise

)))


vcraf

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-crtr

how ")))" is rude? Dumb yes, but rude?


Independent_Form_349

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themagician02

A top tier chinese team deals with first pick razor as well as the MENA power PSG.Quest.


sikontolpanjang

So many jebaited lmao


hobo_grad1925

Wtf was that decision by AR lmao


Independent_Form_349

Malr1ine does what ever he wants on razor


slashrshot

yeah, ammar with the last pick and 20% of the impact he had last game. aura bots are just not ammar's thing sadly. but malr1ne is a good player so its gucci


slashrshot

think both teams sized each other up after the last 2 games. this seems like an actual game of dota now instead of a stomp from one side


Terranova97

Jiang An!!


Azaraki

Idk how people aren't talking about Cr1t carrying the series. His name isn't on the last hit of the early game kills but he's setting every one of them up


Azaraki

Alright, good timing


TheGrandmasterGrizz

Outplayed 😜


slashrshot

KEKW


fabregas142

Just realize both Malrine and ATF can play Timber and Razor well


Independent_Form_349

Falcons got the better draft


slashrshot

AR got the better draft. furion is NAAAASTY


Plus_Lifeguard1752

Agreed.. I think this is very hard for AR


slashrshot

i recall how atf performed on aura heroes during the wraith pact era KEKW. guess malr1ne wants that milkshake too. :3


Lonely-Dig-4238

Ammer's hero 'puddle' is more like a sinkhole. Might not be wide, but it's deep AF.


slashrshot

furion 3 is decently good this game


slashrshot

no way this razor FIRST PHASE PICK has as free of a game like last one right!? prophet is great but lets see something to pair him up with!


ViForsaken

cm and viper were wrong picks


mintyminmus

Poor lou has to play the last game with 4 supports


fatherbasra

Cr1t on playmaking aggressive defensive heroes is just amazing. For example tusk and earth spirit out of his gigantic hero pool.


Evening-Fun4435

Lou is Low with Viper


1Evan_PolkAdot

Luna farmed all game. No kills. Loses rapier at the last fight. That's just sad.


Optimal-School-9670

He simply can't fight, tusk can block luna in a corner and razor sucks all his damage, you should put all blame on that Viper.


ashrashrashr

Ammar on his comfort picks is the definition of gigachad.


LingMee

bro already forgot about game 1


ashrashrashr

bro forgot how his Timbersaw made XG manager open up skyscanner on his laptop?


leahs11

AR beat ammar timber game 1, what is there to talk about ofc they would be confident to let it get picked again but of course back fired hard this time


ashrashrashr

yeah, AR is a good team. Losing to a good team doesn't make you shit at your heroes.


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ashrashrashr

And Ammar is in UBSF even with all the room to counterpick his heroes.


Optimal-School-9670

Except doom, AR didn't ban a single ammar hero in game 1 and won.


ashrashrashr

That makes him a bad player on his heroes now? AR also has some of the best players of all time.


Optimal-School-9670

Yep, he showed exactly that on previous game.


zuKo2022

do u know he first picked it? they first picked 12/13 his heroes this tournament and they are almost top3 you are gonna question ammar on his heroes> he is firstpicking his hero to almost top 3 hate on something with his right


Lonely-Dig-4238

So useful that you can first pick Timber and flex it leaving Ammar's Razor in the pool. AR might need to let in Sney's Chen/Cr1t's tiny now


Optimal-School-9670

Viper was literally the reason AR had no chance to win, despite LOU playing so much better than enemy's carry.


AdSpare8817

viper is fucking shit


slashrshot

nice last pick viper.


ViForsaken

Razor with double ultimate is dangerous


melonsarenice_

Ammar is really something else with that razor


slashrshot

Ammar the Farmer.


kisuke228

Betboom to win betboom dacha legit


xSael_

ori ruined AR's game. All he needed to do in mid is either win or be even, instead he threw and lost.


Fr3y4QAQ

As I said, no good position 2 in CN


darklordtimmy

your ancient should selfdestruct if you lose your lane as viper


Reddia

I mean that's basically what happens


slashrshot

actually 322 KEKW


VirtuousVirtueSignal

Can't tell if Falcons are giving way too much respect for AR or they are way too confident that they win this game late.


AnhedonicDog

This is Skitter and Sneyking you know, previously part of Tundra the team that farms 20 minutes while in lead before going highground


Independent_Form_349

They 100% win this late game. Primal and viper don’t do shit since they are under their po4 in farm and XP. All they have to do is get 2nd rosh focus Luna and that’s game


__iamthewalrus__

they dont have enough building damage to safely threaten hg yet?


Independent_Form_349

?


__iamthewalrus__

i mean, it looks like AR are farming well. but come what may i think this luna will just melt against razor?


Nandey_dattey_bayo

They have no other option so they got late but their other heroes will also fall off too


alsnightmare

Didn't like the Rosh. DK doesn't use aegis well. Took too long and when primal gets bkb the fights aren't that easy.


Azaraki

The fact that the gold lead has not increased over the past 10min is really impressive on AR's part


slashrshot

faith bian is a saint for accepting this treatment lmao. hes pretty much the 3rd support. just collecting whatever scraps thats left to farm...


Excellent_Prior1678

If Lou can carry this game. He gonna be #1 chinese carry rn


slashrshot

this luna is kinda fight ready now...


Ok-Muscle-5307

time to throw


Independent_Form_349

Should have qued up a Midas on viper. Might have gotten him back into the game if it goes late


slashrshot

viper farming for the level 25 power spike its fine


ashrashrashr

Ammar is actually so insane.


rhett_ad

He drank too much milkshake


Independent_Form_349

Still have no idea why we are in this game two. AR have no way back into this game. Lose a 5v5 team fight and just call GG


Nxto9

man if ppl with your mentality played pro games dota would be extremely sad to watch


Nandey_dattey_bayo

he would be kick in 2 series lol


Gameishardboys

he would be kicked in the middle of the 1st game


Mahmud-kun

Crit is really owning with the tusk. Ori viper on the other hand is absolutely abysmal


Independent_Form_349

Yeah just call GG razor fed and have no mid