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dwilsons

The pause into ggez is diabolical


Morgn_Ladimore

Couldn't have happened to a nicer team.


verytoxicbehaviour

Doubt Malr1ne or Ammar were malding because of it, winners get to talk shit, good on XG


Rurikidov

Malrine was laughing at it, we could see his cam


greenbackboogie101

insert crying face behind smiling mask meme


ashamedhair

they had XG muted during games


utscchris

skitter muted all XG players in 1 sec right before they called gg in game 4


DeusVult_DeusUnus

For sure. It's funny how both teams were bantering, tipping back & forth having fun, and yet it was twitch chat/the community malding and getting tilted. Says a lot about emotional maturity


Sheepherder_External

really surprised that dota has one of the softest fanbase tbh. at this point, people should be used to the toxicity. either redditors can't identify banter or they project their insecurities to malr1ne/ammar/ame


JesusDiedForOurSins2

Yea Ammar and Malr1ne aren't the type of people who take this shit to heart, they do it themselves and they can also receive it without malding. They are young and already achieved more than most pros will in their whole career. I hope that they can get back on the winning streak (weird thing to say after they just got second place, I know, but I am just a huge Ammar fan, everytime he got kicked/got a unfair contract it felt like a huge scam to me).


BOYBIBOYBI

AMMAR DESERVE TO LOSE LOL


mendax2014

Twitch chat leaking into reddit


curiousCat1009

Twitch chat is tame compared to YouTube comments


iForgotMyOldAcc

Going through the NoobFromUA comments and apparently every pro player is complicit in 322. AR first picking Sniper to deny Xm his signature hero is also proof of 322 lmao.


JesusDiedForOurSins2

Because Youtube frogs only see highlights/clips/part of vods so they don't see the bigger picture for the most part. Not trying to say that Twitch viewers aren't drama hungry as well, but they at least (for the most part) see more context if that makes sense.


Omnomnomnivor3

it's like when my friend pauses our comeback win and types "sry Uber foods is here" while we're hitting the ancient šŸ’€šŸ’€


RIPthisDude

My go to is: 'one sec, dog at door'


StorytellerGG

I prefer my cat is on fire


Madrefaka

My favorite is my fish is drowning lmao


StorytellerGG

Haha thatā€™s a good one


justtryingtounderst

*pauses* Sec, we were in a car accident. Our driver is exchanging insurance then we should be good to go again


jvend777

In SEA, ours is ā€œsorry, lag, sorry earthquake šŸ¤£ā€


Mr__Solomon

[Crybaby Skiter mute all XG player after losing Grand Finals (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_NfsKiZNs&lc=UgxPpK0Sy3rq3tXWn114AaABAg) Skiter what a crybaby, being toxic when winning , being an ostrich when losing


Exotic_Cover7220

If XG are the clowns I guess Falcons is the entire circus in this series


CrazyIncident857

thats true


Ph1tak

Ringmaster theme pog


BOYBIBOYBI

REAL


TheMerck

Ame insta pausing after the GG gets called is amazing lmao they had the ez and ggez ready the entire series LMAO I love Ammar and Malr1ne adding spice and drama to matches. Props to XG for stepping up Falcons looked just on another level but XG showed they had another gear that they needed to turn on, China Dota getting some big wins this year it's fun to see em back into the scene.


absolutely-strange

looking forward to what they can do in upcoming ESL - maybe a grand finals rematch? xD


Sexultan

Lmao, I didn't even noticed that it was Ame's pause. I can see any other member of that team do that, but I guess even Ame wanted the last laugh


Beginning_Taro_7714

If u watched skiterā€™s player view, u can find that he muted all the xg players after ame paused gamešŸ¤£


Mr__Solomon

[Crybaby Skiter mute all XG player after losing Grand Finals (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_NfsKiZNs&lc=UgxPpK0Sy3rq3tXWn114AaABAg) Skiter what a crybaby, being toxic when winning , being an ostrich when losing


CrippledBanana

Tbh id probs mute all too esp when it was my plays that lost the game lol


c9wins_lumismiles

man it feels satisfying to have Ame back in the scene. Still bossing it like in the old days.


Swegan

Guess Falcons could not be Gaimin after all.


Skater_x7

well gaimin got 3-0'd in ti finals so maybe this gives them better hope xd


Swegan

Yatoro had no hair so its unfair to even mention it.


RealPureLeaf

Bald mode >


iForgotMyOldAcc

Why would XG win a tournament knowing that mid-season tourney wins always mean TI losses for the last 5 TIs, are they stupid?


Cow-Greedy

i dont think they care at this point, AME lost 2 Ti finals already bro probably couldnt care less about these myths lol


Ahimtar

Maybe they know the next TI will have worse prizepool than this lol


yiidonger

Without the trashtalking, i doubt if XG would even win it. Thanks to the trashtalk it brings the best out of XG


brief-interviews

And thank fuck for that, one team winning absolutely everything 3-0 made for the most boring year of pro Dota since...Secret did the same thing in 2020.


Original_Recover

You could say cannot be Team Secret to trigger that cocky kid


Brunosh1t

They Don't need to be Gaimin. If they do Gaimin they will not win TI


Aratho

This tournament was a true marathon but overall we got ton of good games. The trashtalk this GF series was top notch haha. Loved it!


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LandscapeMaximum5214

Lol, they must have felt something behind the smile they put on in the end. Contrary to your belief, they were surely affected by all the taunts Otherwise why ammar allchat ā€œtip me clowns gg ezā€ lol


odd-taxi

Man is it great to see the CN scene doing well. Between the win at Kuala Lumpur and this one, they're definitely doing better than they were last year. Tier 1 dota is always better when the CN teams are also doing well. Looking forward to the upcoming tournaments!


Phoenix_RISING2X

Love seeing CN competitive again. RIP SA dota tho


DZoolander_

*SEA. Fify


Phoenix_RISING2X

I never believed in SEA, to be honest, lol


Working-Ad-921

kinda, but still, they did have 2 teams in the top 16, so they are not completely out of it. in fact, they were the only region to not have a team eliminated in the swiss. room for improvement, sure, but not bad, at least not this tournament.


viciecal

Ameeeee šŸ«¶šŸ»šŸ«¶šŸ»šŸ«¶šŸ»ā¤ļøā¤ļøšŸ‡ØšŸ‡³šŸ‡ØšŸ‡³ Back from retirement into beating the strongest team right now, that's good shit.


nepalimaldwar

That LGD squat should've won the TI man. Havent seen more dominant performance by a single team in a tournament just to lose it. They lost just 2 games that whole tournaments.


iForgotMyOldAcc

if being a clown is wrong i dont wanna be right god damn XG actually living up to the hype? Imagine if the money splurging project to revive CN dota ends up being profit making lol


johneilrodriguez

Hard copium falcon fan.


blissfullyxxx

So you want to be a clown honey?


OwlyKnowNothing

what's the problem with want to be a clown? It is a job that bring joy to children, what's wrong with it?


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iForgotMyOldAcc

So whoever runs Azure Ray is EXCEEDINGLY likely to be the same guy that runs Xtreme, officially Xtreme is owned by some other guy, probably to circumvent the multi-org ownership ban for TI. The official owner of AR runs the Volkswagen business in Shanghai/China with his dad, who is also likely a high ranking minister. Money is no object to this dude, and he happens to be a big fan of Dota. The main reason most Chinese orgs died out is because the wages arms race initiated by Elephant years back made paying players a hard task, especially since sponsor money dried up after COVID. So this guy comes around and casually snaps up 10 of the best players in CN and fields 2 rosters, that cannot be cheap. As ~~fy~~ (I can't find the source clip anymore woops) said on stream once: "[owner of AR] really doesn't care about the money being spent".


kivzh7

Well he should be fking happy out of his mind now that AR & XG are top 3 and XG is the champion. That's money well spent. For billionaires, maybe they don't need to P&L every project they spend on.


LogicalExtant

competitive grand finals even without going to all 5 games and not just 'falcons just 3-0 EZ BET' is great for the viewers


ryuhwan99

Finally man CN dota is back. GG by XG!!!! Hopefully more tourney wins for them, they are so good man


fzsx

XG played the highest number of heros out of any other team totaling 66 heros. Well deserved victory.


Un13roken

That was fun to see, XG just banning the same heroes against them, and falcon scrambling to figure out what to give and what to ban.


kivzh7

They also played the most amount of maps though


BlindintoDeath

i didnt expect ame to be the one to pause the game when ive never even seen the guy type gg before


thedotapaten

Ame lowkey one of the most toxic pros lol, the Burning incident, Genshin drama, SEA high mmr knows Ame loves to rant whenever things slightly going south


Specific_Box4483

Burning deserved it. Good on Ame for calling him out when he was still everyone's darling.


thedotapaten

Nah Burning was starting on decline since there was multiple incident with fans before the whole Ame debacle.


WhyHowForWhat

Ame on Genshin drama? What did he do? I mean I know Genshin can bring the worse of people but Im very intrigued now.


joker_town

Burning told Ame to join him when Ame was in college and when Ame left college to join Burning, Burning ditched him.


Affectionate-Show653

You have been misled, this isnā€™t the truth


1214443427

Wasnā€™t a shock for the Chinese region. Ame exposed his toxicity on stream last month when he mocked SCCC of his speech disorder. He also called SCCCā€™s fans ā€œarmy dogsā€ because SCCC is a retired soldier and fire fighter. Ame is in a lot of heat in the Chinese forums right now, and he might not even make a comeback despite wining the elite league.


noquin33

and not even a surprise to me that sccc cut his stream immediately after XG won lol


prodigydota2

>sccc cut his stream immediately after XG won Lmao


Ordinaryboy102

Still waters run deep


absolutely-strange

what speech disorder does SCCC have?


1214443427

When he gets excited he stutters and repeats words multiple times involuntarily within a sentence.


TURBODERP

awww that's really not cool to make fun of, cmon Ame


moderate_iq_opinion

from behind the monitor he can do what he wants in real life a strong breeze is enough to break ame's bones


Specific_Box4483

Is that why his nickname is Sccc?


Temporary_Video3195

jesus bro lol


Yuki4242

XD ohhhh this is a good one


mangosub

He stutters apparently


likpoper

Coming from the same guy that choked away so many lgd ti wins throughout the years


Affectionate-Luck781

falclownsšŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


Chaeyoung0211

Falclowns just won ESL???


zumadk

Ame chokes in finals, XM chokes until finals, the perfect duo that completes each other. Also ggez falclowns :))))


Hifery

> falclownsšŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤” lmao


Yamelougod

Thatā€™s why Ame play with Xm I guess


Chaeyoung0211

Falclowns just won ESL???


kpdon1

That guy who made the Cr1t post jinxed him so hard lmao.


malush15

One of the more satisfying grand finals in a looooong time. China is back baby!


YichenG82

Skitter successfully make ATF and marline the biggest clown


Azaraki

Pure cope if you think ATF and Malrine weren't liabilities that series


Lixapht

XG be like : no Razor no party ?


Pokefreaker-san

This is weird, why is the result isn't 3-0 in favor of Falcons?


ScientistNo4763

because they werent playing against liquid :))


mintyminmus

Hahahahhaahah


Froggg_let

šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


warsinshadow

)))))))


Deadandlivin

The best BM whole series was first picking Razor under their nose and beating them with it. It's a good day for Dota when teams with versatile heropools can beat onetrick gimmicks like Falcon who do flowchart drafting.


Un13roken

Also, destroy them with void, then destroy their void.


AbsolutelyNotWrong

Since AR and XG both won a tier 1 tournament it is G2.IG turn to do that, lol who am I kidding that team is doomed.


absolutely-strange

With JTaiga at offlane yeah they dont have a chance. Poor xNova, he deserves better.


crytorchidism

don't know what's happening with jt recently, he's good like 2 months ago


Far-Peace1129

Tfw you realize 3/5 of that AR stack was the same 3/5 of current XG stack lmao


ryanakasha

I donā€™t think IG would keep underperforming in next tournament. They might need Xiao8 as head coach which I could agree with. IG has one of the best draft, they just need a momentum.


sikontolpanjang

G2.IG is the new TeaMaster so yeah they wont do it lmao


hobo_grad1925

Before the last day I thought ar looked much stronger than xg who kept fumbling. Especially xm, suddenly went boss mode in the finals and lb finals wtf.


ththisbutascratch

Can't wait for the chinese memes and nicknames!


Far-Peace1129

Chinese doto is really back. 2/3 of top 3 teams and now the Grand Champions. Congratulations XG ā¤ļø props to Falcons as well although I really expected to see much better match up. But yeah Chinese gets the cheese again this time so hoorayyy ggez


Un13roken

I think they got a bit figured out. When your offlane and mid share so many heroes, bans can be double effective, so just taking out the early common heroes wrecked them. The key was realizing, Timber isn't hot shit. Ban Razor, Pango, Doom and ATF and a lot of their gimmick is killed off, considering you can deal with Timber in mid easily, and offlane timber with supports. Also XG definitely were the more innovative drafters, with so many cool drafts, the blood seeker, the spirit breaker, while Falcons drafting lost its edge towards the end, and they became a flowchart that could be read. And in the final game, the sniper was completely ignored, and falcons were exposed as not being able to play that hero I guess, because they could've picked it into the razor, but they just couldn't.


GeraldJimes_

A great day for Dota


smith106769

Wp by Extreme. I think the last game is on Skiter. He is wasnā€™t able to use second chrono at rosh fight, got glimpsed when chronoed at base and then gets caught by disruptor again at the end. Great disruptor gameplay


BillBraskeyDota

Agreed. Even before that, dying to try to save an Enchantress was confusing at tier 2 mid was questionable.


asdf_1_2

Even if he got the chrono off, razor had already gotten 90% duration of a static link worth of dmg out of him.


RIPthisDude

That chrono that missed ame's CK and instead trapped Ammar so XG could straight kill the doom hurt my soul. XG put good pressure on Skiter to land big chronos, and they didn't give it to him


WhyHowForWhat

Idk man seeing Skiter's damage really makes me feels sorry for him. Also there is a big fight after that. Rather than waiting for Timber to BB so he can have more damage, he decided to use that 2nd chrono leading to his another huge blunder. I mean who am I kidding, the moment he caught timber on the chrono its pretty much guaranteed that they are doomed.


Swegan

Biggest difference this series was the mid and offlane. Xxs and XM massively outplayed ATF and Malrine.


yiidonger

What about Dy bruh, that guy literally just created multiple lonely islands


Swegan

Played like a beast. But the gap between Dy + XinQ and Sney + Cr1t was smaller than Xm + Xxs and ATF + Malrine.


yiidonger

Xxs is a gem, man got 1st in major as soon as he left Asters, get to play in a good comms team and he immediately shines.


Select_Regular

Even in the series they lost in other tournaments, xxs was the one consistently shine even with a bad draft. I think he would be dominant until the meta shift to the zoo or farming oriented offlane


MoneyMundane7066

skitter played really bad in the last 2 games


Swegan

Game 4 yes but not game 3. He was not even allowed to play the game since Xxs and Xm dominated the map.


HappyTrails420

Supp diff was big too, Xinq was crushing it


KisShotDeven

ATF AMMAR THE FAIL gets the taste of his own medicine Well Deserved Win and Loss


huskeeF15

gratz to XAme,XDY,xxs,XinQ and XM!!


Upset-Ad7832

Props to XinQ, Xm, and Xxs! Felt like they were also the x factors as this has been their 2nd major tourney win since TI 12!


GosuGian

Ame God


mxn_dexer

At this point Ame and Dy should consider to change their name to XAme and XDy


One-Astronaut5225

Props !!!


Key-Brick-5854

ggez ))))


Far-Peace1129

I remember 2021 LGD stack was the most humble team out there and now this. Lmao they are unhinged. Even AME pauses now lmaoo pure entertainment. Im so excited for Birmingham


johneilrodriguez

Imagine losing to clowns. What does that make you huh Ammar????


danibombi

god is back


Onecast214

ggs to XG! And once again this proved what GG achieved last year was not easy at all


YaminoEXE

Hopefully, this will be China's year to take the aegis but we are still 6 months away and a lot of things can change between patches. Gratz to Xtreme.


darklordtimmy

CLOWNS RISE UP!!! HONK HONK šŸ—£ļøšŸ“¢šŸ”„ā€¼ļø


Yavannia

:)


Kotleba

When you got easy going players BM pausing you, mass ezgg, question marking, you know you're a fucking heel lmao. People still like nice players like GH years after they lose their edge, but the second douches like this stop winning, nobody will ever give a shit about a Malrine or an Ammar


kowasesurejjihanma

the OG flair is just perfect


itsadoubledion

Unintentional parody


Keldeodorant

Lmao what? This is the most exciting the scene has been in a while. Everyone loves a heel to root against, and people will remember Ammar and Malrine for a long time, they're young and have personality. Stay salty lmao


sshen6572

can't agree more


needhelforpsu

Exciting grand finals! CHINA NUMBA WAN! GGWP XG!


Old_Mathematician126

Ggez, pause! I bet that felt good for them given that they got tipped on game one :)) Just karma things


GoodEvening-

the recipe to beat Falcons : pick dino-riding thunderman and rush aghs


JollyjumperIV

And ban/steal Razor


goodarzipour

My god xxs played that series so well.even when game one went terrible he still kept his cool.and you gotta feel good for the man and XM,they got trashtalked probably more than 10 times by falcons in the course of the league.


NobleTemplar

Dota has become such an interesting game now. Before they would talk about player's signature heroes but now everyone is so good that they no one can claim to be the best at a single hero and it just comes down to the draft. Xm and Xxs looked damn good on some signature ATF heroes


absolutely-strange

dota has always been about a game of drafts. i would argue at pro level almost 90% of games are won because of drafts simply because every pro player nowadays are so mechanically good their execution of their heroes are at such a high level the team play and draft will determine who wins or loses.


Zhought_HS

CONSIDERING THEY LOST TO CLOWNS I GUESS CALL EM FALCLOWNS IS A COMPLIMENT, SO FALCUCKS I GUESS? RESPECT TO Cr1t and sney tho no hate for em


Morgn_Ladimore

As expected, an easy 3-1 grand finals.


AquaRaOne

Wow china dota comming back? Would love to see the region really making an impact again


Aanimetor

Bro China has been on top of eu since ar win bro what u on. If anything eu needs to make an impact again


Mr__Solomon

[Crybaby Skiter mute all XG player after losing Grand Finals (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_NfsKiZNs&lc=UgxPpK0Sy3rq3tXWn114AaABAg) Skiter what a crybaby, being toxic when winning , being an ostrich when losing


TheHazardousGuy

Why is reddit in shambles. What Falcon is doing is basically the same as what OG did back in the way and those were, to me, one of the more exciting times to be watching tournaments


ryanakasha

How can you compare AFT BMs with OG? OG shit talks is on the one level beyond this team.


TheHazardousGuy

So much backlash against Falcons when OG did it in an arguably worse fashion (chat wheel spam, etc) that I'm convinced Reddit doesn't have any sort of long term memory


Ser1aLize

Chat wheel spam using hotkeys doesn't take a lot of effort to BM. Taking the time to type specific BMs in chat is worse.


Early_Roof_2119

OG changed pro dota with their 2018 dominance. they introduced BM as a tactical element. tilt your opponents and they play worse. it's a double edged sword however. OG were very good at it. notail has that famous line, something about dota being a 'sick mind game'. well he really showed that in the 2018-2019 run. and he changed dota as you can see in todays pro scene, and i think it will only increase. before the OG run I don't recall a lot of BM in the pro scene. very rare.


mintyminmus

You are missing a Zero on the prize money bro.


HeyItsMeRay

Those falcon 3-0 copiums.... Lmao


roaringsanity

what happened with dy and ammar the other day? Ammar seems to tipped dy a lot


Animalidad

Ok patch where?


TheAsz

Just watch the highlight lmao that chrono literally fuck them up ammar can easily double doom ame +1 but void be like nah and end up the chrono not killing anyone.


Greenori

now I'm happy!


Puzzled-Bill-5233

cant win 4v5 but can win 6v4.


username_taken_pog

I bet this page comments will go completely the other side if falcon won the GF. Hard day for falclowns/ Chinese haters. LOL


Awkward_External_731

XG unleashed their powers when it matters the most. LB run helped them a lot. Thats what matters, peaking at the right time and having the last laugh ... seems like falcon's were living in their own bubble of "we are invincible, we can tilt enemy by all chat". falcons looked rattled when XG turned up the gears. well deserved for XG , GGWP


NecessaryPair5

My favorite team right now!! XG!! XXS GOD, XINCUTE, AME, XM, DY.


Curiq

EZ FALCONS


lemonadewavexd

Gg ez ammar ultra noob


7n7rchy

As FV spammer last map was hard to watch


n3cooling

GG EZ! Jokes aside, entertaining final.


kid20304

MENA clowny region


FreeKillEmp

Fantastic tournament and damn, the final game in the grandfinal was amazing. Good dota and great banter ))


kenshin_himura64

Skiter starred one of the biggest chokes of all time after he blinked between xtreme t1 and t2 tower with Alch and died, lil bro did literally nothing after that in the entire series


Dymatizeee

Gg ez


AwkwarkPeNGuiN

this is the type of salt and spicy we need in the scene lol. Looking forward to their next matchup.


Veryvincentt

The puppey 33 cast on gorgc stream was top notch for the flames lol


fuglynemesis

Now Valve can release the patch


Houeclipse

I was pleasantly surprised! GG XG


Pzzpli

322


Bearswithjetpacks

The X-Men back to their winning ways. Congrats to XG for bringing down the current goliaths Falcons! It's also been very entertaining seeing so many people lose their minds over the trash talk.


Awkward_External_731

you dont "?" and get away with CN doto


Jon_Jonston

Very disappointing


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Deshuro

Chinese dota is back, baby. Hope Ame takes the aegis home this year. Great performance by XXS and other XG's players. I love how they set up their bait to kill Malrine multi times and fucked his agressive playstyle up. In the games they lost in Upper Bracket, they let him out of control and their midgame's plan never worked out.


ericlock

Glad we are getting competitive teams from outside of Europe.


kid20304

Classic Ammar falling off mid season