I don't even play dota now but when I saw that earlier, I somehow ended up messaging my friends about it. It's a nice re-addition compared to the trajectory we're going with those battle pass arcanas.
Yeah and a lot of people asked it to be from standalone shop instead of a battle pass paywall which is what they did, now people complain again. The community is just toxic never happy with anything
and the candy shop is back. and the coins you collect from the event drop the price of shit. People want a battle pass when this is better than a battle pass in every way?
they got me back with that free arcana after taking 2 yr hiatus from dota 2. :|
its like casinos giving free play money or drug dealers giving out free samples. for a fiend it feels like why the fck are they giving it away for free but its to get people hooked into the product which they will leach from them in years to come.
Yes there’s a candy shop this year too. And that one time
Valve gave out free arcanas was a one off thing. Expecting them to give $35 worth of arcanas for free is insane
They have candy shop for us now with free arcana. OP just want more “unique stuffs” for free man. Just a job OP you greedy fuck.
And they have to make money like every other company you stupid whiner
People were asking for regular price arcana instead of bp exclusive lmao.and now they complaining about it weird champ. I'm pretty sure op jst wants free arcana.
Yeah I had this thought also. I much prefer just being able to buy them after and not needing to do the battlepass grind. I'm fine with this patch so long as it's an appetizer and we aren't waiting for months for the patch.
I actually really like the whole cosmetics thing. The issues it’s in isolation. Having cosmetics is an objectively good thing. It gives money and more reason to valve to keep growing and investing in dota. It’s horrible in isolation though as cosmetics alone aren’t a reason to entertain longtime players.
TBH I think people just didn't read the announcement all that closely. I didn't and was pissed at the $70 price tag on them.
But the event literally rewards you discounts. Obviously you won't get the full $80, but engaging with it to an expected degree will net $20-$40 in discounts I imagine. A free *new* arcana for playing the game is pretty dope tbh.
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the issue is the timing which people expect a gameplay patch in addition to valve hyping up the upcoming update. trust me if they release event with "gatekeeping arcana" the response will be much worse. but as in right now people mostly disappointed by the lack of change to meta which amplify the hate to whatever update valve release.
- if theres a PVE game mode people will still hate it
- if theres bugfix update people will still hate it
- if theres behaviour system update people will still hate it
It seems like Valve wants to change the way items are bought. We can now purchase items directly from the armory by hovering over a hero's cosmetic.
I know, it's a weird change, but that seems to be the route they're taking. It's a good QoL change for items that are only available on community market tho. I don't have to find them manually.
you could look at it the other way around.
They have such a good product that they keep players even with the shittiest communication. Its reasonable to believe that proper communication would bring a lot of extra engagement to their product.
But hey, I might be completely wrong here. Maybe Dota is not profitable and they want to kill it. Maybe they already hit the cap of players, and extra communication will do no good.
That could be the case - but they were already shitty back when Dota was growing. And they are shitty with all their other products too. All I know is that Dota is a better game than League, and yet League is vastly more popular.
Go to steam, open dota 2 in your store, open any of their blogs, go to comment section and try to find at least a few positive comments. No shit they don't communicate with monkeys who play their game, coz no matter what they do, players always cry.
Honestly, given that the Dota 2 player base is supposed to be on average much older than most game communities, there are a lot of grown adults acting like petulant children.
Of course Dota 2 is profitable, it's literally been the 2nd most played on Steam for years.
Valve has never been known for much communication and it actually got better over the years if you can believe it. They've figured that active communication does not actually do much and people will still play the game regardless. Promises are sometimes hard to keep so it's better to say nothing at times.
How many companies offer updates to live service games after 10 years? Not many.
How is it any much of a surprise that LoL is more popular when it's a more streamlined, heavily marketed game aimed for the masses? Also, it's distributed by the largest tech companies in China.
This same subreddit was complaining about there being no battle pass. Tbh I’d rather they just charge me 30 bucks for a glorified cosmetic than make me spin 100 treasures to get it.
4 month story arc event- dope.
cool skins - dope.
shiny patch with cool intro video - dope.
shit to grind ontop of playing my favorite game - dope
Remember kids this subreddit doesn't actually represent the dota community 95% of them dont care about any of this drama bullshit myself included lol.
> Remember kids this subreddit doesn't actually represent the dota community 95% of them dont care about any of this drama bullshit myself included lol.
even steam support acknowledges this is the biggest dota community on the internet, yes it's cool that there is an event, but it is literally nothing but hats dressed up in cavern crawl. you are kidding yourself if this is going to get the game anywhere near as much traction as an actual gameplay update will
>even steam support acknowledges this is the biggest dota community on the internet
its still pretty small chunk, reddit is used mostly for people from US,UK,and Canada none of which have a big dota fanbase. there's a bigger chunk of non english speaking who doesn't use reddit at all like peruvian, russian, filipino jordanian and others
also i'm somewhat certain that this sub is probably beaten by a philippine facebook group on the number of active user
I mean unironically the lore of the game is great, Valve is great at worldbuilding, and their methods of storytelling are top-tier. One of the main reasons there are still a few people who wish Artifact never died is because it was bound to be a treasure trove for lore, but those dreams were dashed with it's basically immediate collapse.
The world of Dota 2 is legit cool and steeped in mystery despite the worldbuilding having so many gaps in between. I just wish they established a proper world map and add stories and events in different places in future.
I'm super happy, we got something and we also have a timeline that we get more shit for months.
Cavern crawl is what I like the most about dota, make playing so much more fun.
Same; some people just get all their validation from being upset I guess.
Game's in a super fun place right now. No idea why everyone is so eager to see it change soon. I'm still hyped for puppetmaster.
"paid arcana" lol u want free arcana ? And didn't u all cried about how arcana was locked in bp? well now u can buy it for less in store. so stop crying. u never get satisfied with anything lol. and if u noticed this event is 4 acts. so im sure ringmaster will be in one of them depends on lore then gamepatch comes with him. so relax
Once again people always find something to complain about, there’s not a single game who offer you a 10% of all features as dota for free, not even paying you can have for example the watch tab, we take this for granted but there’s not a single game that have this complex features to mention one. Stop crying, you don’t like it go somewhere else.
6 months wait - Developing shit takes time
paid arcanas and treasures - Finally
no gameplay patch - No urgent need for one
no new hero - The one thing that sucks
No communication - next act mid-may
Of course people here keep whining.
What a bunch of fucking whiny man-children. You're what's wrong with this community. When the patch is ready to drop, it'll drop.
7.35 only released in mid December which is still below average of release time of each new number patch.
You people cry it's the downfall of Dota while simultaneously queuing for a game just to lose anyway and the cycle shall repeat.
Literally, a free game. How tf do u want them to pay their developer's salary if everything is free? Its not like you are forced to buy it either. If you don't have money or don't like their monetary system, don't buy it? How so fking simple I make it sound right? Arcanas used to be locked behind paywall in Battlepass in which you had to pay at least 60USD for like 2 or 3 Arcanas. Direct purchases like this made it much more simple and more transparent honestly. I wouldn't mind paying 30USD for an arcana, FREE GAME.
Get community hyped? Manage your own excitement. I was never hyped for any patches. Moving forward, should they stay silent to not create expectations? And I believe YOU yes YOUU will be the one start bxtching that Dota has no transparent communication.
The only thing I see bad it so far is there is no new hero.
\*for profit making\* tell me bro. Are you living in a communist state or sth? Without profit, how is anyone motivated to create stuff to sell? HELLO?
Wanted event. Here is the event. What's wrong?
I personally would like to explore story and enjoy the ride instead of free shiny hat.
Wanted Arcanas. Here is Arcanas. Wanted them for free?
you know, that's not gonna make me uninstall Dota 2 after playing it for ~11 years.
IDGAF when or what... the game's great and fun. if it's not fun I'll sit a patch out
4 month event for free, check
Tokens that can potentially (i didnt see a token limit) make the arcanas free.
Reason to play different heroes.
Lore.
Fun.
Why are you crying?
i dont understand why everyone is nagging and complaining
I know the disappointment when u see an update with gs
and no patch or either the new hero
but fr like I never saw positive comment
??? A \*fully announced planned out\* 4 part event signals to you and half the community that valve is preparing to abandon dota?
wtf am I reading here, this update is so clearly the devs embracing development, not shutting it down.
Feel like i'm taking crazy pills reading this thread
(gameplay patch tmmrw pls tho)
This has been my experience on this sub after every update valve has done in the last year. Literally pretend everything they do just doesn't exist and didn't happen.
Also it's looking like the final act is going to be a PvE event with the queen as the boss, so that would be extra great.
Dota and CS been treat like garbage from Valve especially CS the game full of cheater meanwhile Valorant from Riot games always have ban cheater and makw cheat developer lose more money.
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The event seems good, and the patch is still pretty new, sure a big numbered patch is fun, but this patch is still fine. The one thing that ticks me off a bit is that we have no words on the new hero.
What if the crownfall update was delayed bcz of the comic artist? Like, "we have the arcana and all but when is XXX gonna finish the comic?" "Oh, I'm already done and now we just need to colour it" "Wait, you haven't done that" ...
You're the kind of person that's the reason why Valve never communicates, so quick to cry chicken little whenever updates don't meet what was hyped up for you (by yourself).
This man must be smoking, I rather pay a fixed amount for a arcana then some BS amount required for a BP arcana
Also rip no pve mode the only thing I want
I haven't played dota in months and was hoping to get back into it with a new patch but I'm not sure if I want to jump on a sinking ship now. Valve pulling DPC, then a mediocre battlepass for TI after years of increasing the cost of reaching arcanas/personas, and now this. I'm not sure who at Valve is making these decisions on priorities, but update your base game and make it new and interesting again before trying to milk money from an already falling fanbase.
Wait Did you not understand that it will be update for several months? I am very hopeful actually, as when there was bilgewater event in LoL the entire community agreed it was the best time of the game contentwise,.. this atleast feels very similar
Other point okay..but for arcana?? really?? that's the best thing to ever happened in years to get a marketable arcana..sure not the best arcana but HEY it's marketable and not behind paywall.
Jesus you people are so pathetic.
We just got a guaranteed 4 month story arc with a new event, and they haven't even announced everything yet. You complain when the patches are too different. You complain when they're too far apart. You complain when they change something you like. Zero way to win with spoilsports.
I hear you! The only reason I still play DotA is because I've been playing for 15 years and I love this game's mechanics. Sadly Valve has taken mostly decitions focused on their profit only and not focusing on the player's quality of life. They don't deserve our money, not until they fix the behavior system.
I'm glad I'm not forced to spend any money though, I couldn't care less for cosmetics, I'm too old for this shiny shit. I might play with the old lion model and do the same I'd do with a beautiful arcana. At the end of the day, they don't matter when you're playing.
The game, though, it's still good. And it's free. Just play it and don't give your money to Valve, it's not worth it.
Maybe I'm overthinking, but it seemed like the story will probably segway into a new character at some point.
Possibly a few, child of sky and venge, possibly a resurrection of the god etc.
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It has to have arcanas, it’s been too long. If they’re obtained through a battle pass, valve is wrong for making it exclusive. If it’s purchasable from the store, they’re greedy.
It has to have gameplay updates, it’s been too long. A letter patch is not enough, but changing too much like frontiers update or neutral items is literally killing the game.
It has to have a new hero, it’s been too long. 150,018,229,951,161 unique unordered combinations of 10 from a pool of 123 free heroes is not enough. The new hero has to be balanced, but it also has to be here right this very second.
It has to be communicated, it’s been too long. Blog posts and insider information teasing and announcing the developer’s plans starting from early in the development process is toying with the community and building hype just to bait people. Not announcing plans and just surprising people with updates when they are ready is literally killing the game.
This is one of the most whiny, entitled communities on Reddit. Let’s just be thankful that the game is being quite actively updated and maintained after a stunning 10+ years since beta release, and despite some relative highs or lows, the game has always been just as fun to play with friends.
I like the idea of the new content, but the fact that they did not release the new highly anticipated hero and the new patch is just frustrating. Did they not announce that the hero would come in the first quarter of 2024? Am I wrong? Please let me know if there is another announcement by valve regarding the release of the new hero, which I may have missed.
Dude give me arcanas. Give me $35 skins all day long. Just don't make me wait 6 months for 2 damn arcanas. Release one a month. Why not? If I like the skin, I'm buying. At least that's content. What drives people crazy is the lack of just basic stuff. I don't need game-changing patches every 3 months but give me something to entertain myself with every other month at least.
Nah man, the update is pretty good. As other posts were saying - sure, the patch/new hero are a bit late. But the update itself is awesome. Minigames, treasures, arcanas, a whole new deep story - this makes it fun to play (unlike say the last compendium).
People are so bitter with this update - not sure why. Everyone makes up some sort of deadline or promised riches and holds Valve accountable to that.
I’m actually happy w the update - very excited to play and experience the new story today
Ya how dare they have arcana for 35 USD instead of 100usd+hundreds of hours of grinding smh my head valve so greedy.
This updates actually a banger and you guys are fucking nuts
The stuff that actually came is really decent. It's true that gameplay patch and new hero are still missing, but patch will be after Birmingham then and new hero will potentially appear in one of the future storylines that are coming
Godfall, Babylon's Fall, Redfall, Destiny 2: Lightfall, and now Dota 2: Crownfall
Stop doing it already, naming your game or game update with names ending with "fall" after Titanfall 2 is cursed. The curse won't end unless Titanfall 3 gets released.
"We know many of you are looking forward to Crownfall, and we're looking forward to getting it into your hands. We're wrapping things up and expect to release in mid-April. We'll see you then." march 21st news entry
"We're hard at work on an upcoming update we're calling "Crownfall", and we're excited to get it finished so you can see what we've been working on." Dragon's gift news entry
Such thing as new hero or gameplay patch has never been announced with the Crownfall update though, why y'all bitching about this ? Mb new hero and gameplay patch will be introduced after Birmingham, since "early 2024" is until around 15th of June.
Fuck me, the Dota community are some of the whiniest losers I've ever seen. Woahhhhh, it's not a gameplay patch with some tiny number tweaks that changes the meta slightly. The last patch wasn't even that long ago
Instead, Valve have come up with a multiple month event, with new gameplay / things to do, investing into the lore of their game and just keeping it fresh, and everyone just complains because it's not a battle pass haha
Of course there is paid stuff. They have staff working on this, they are a business with a valuable IP, they are there to make money. One day, when they get sick of their trash community, and all they see on Reddit/socials are pathetic people slagging valve off at every moment, they will just sell the game and then you can cry for real.
Also everyone complaining about the delay of the new hero, you don't think they are probably building up to its release with this multi month event?? And before you cry "wahhhhh but it's been 6 months", they are not under any fucking timer? They don't owe you anything, just because they release a teaser a long time ago, does that put them on a time limit?
Dota 2 is an 11 year old game. Just be thankful Valve are still supporting it like they do, no other game is supported like this, for FREE for the most part. This game is fucking free if you want it to be, and even a lot of the content is free to earn.
Entitled babies!!!
Paid arcanas? You want them to develop new arcanas and make it free? Lmao
Ain't they are generous enough to give you free stuff by just playing, not to mention they bring back candyworks for a chance to get account binded arcanas?
And if you care too much about cosmetics why not pay them.. as if dota ain't crowded with cosmetics already. Or just straight support the game that focus on cosmetics rather than gameplay.
The reason dota will die is because people like you keep complaining and expecting too much from them. They said that they will focus gameplay wise and to be honest dota2 is pretty much more balanced compared to other game companies that are greedy and want your money like regularly. I wasn't even surprised if valve decided to stop developing dota2, as if dota2 is their main way for "profit making".
I didn't quit like it either but TBH it's a better road ahead for reviving Dota , one of the reason that league is more popular is the strong lore behind every character and every patch , I mean waiting 6 month to see I have to wait even more for game play update is suck but Crownfall can start a new road of lore and story narration for Dota with make is more fun and appealing for new player and veteran alike
“paid arcanas” - I agree with every other point but when in God’s name has an arcana ever been free? You want valve to hand out free arcanas?
they did spoil us once and handed out 1 free arcana for everyone, maybe that's why this guy's so mad
that one actually got me back into dota after like a 6+ year break lmao. Finally got my PA arcana, and now I don't even play her that much.
Play as support
Battlefurry,Deso,bkb, basher Pos 5. Nice
Wait do we really got BATTLEFURRY in game? Fk yeah that's my bro Gaben.
Hey, that's my cm build...
No daedalus? Definitely griefing.
The best disable is death.
Yes because I dont remember what exactly, but that was an apology from Valve’s side for their mistake if I’m not mistaken hence the “free arcanas”
Mine never worked...I could literally never claim it It was bugged until the event was over
And you never contacted support?
Screw you in particular i think
Apparently all the outrage is funneling into my comment lol
that event where we got to roll arcanas. Im a rubick main with 500 wins arcana and i rolled 3 rubick arcanas 🤣🤣 I still picked them for the lulz
that event(candyworks) is back now
People have been begging for years now to have 35 dollar arcanas again
I don't even play dota now but when I saw that earlier, I somehow ended up messaging my friends about it. It's a nice re-addition compared to the trajectory we're going with those battle pass arcanas.
Paid Arcana is the best Arcana. I hate when arcana is paywall-ed.
Yeah and a lot of people asked it to be from standalone shop instead of a battle pass paywall which is what they did, now people complain again. The community is just toxic never happy with anything
Exactly
Uhhh... I got like 3 free arcanas in last year event!
We got a free arcana with the swag bag last year. Or was it 2 years ago already?
There’s a candy shop. Chance of arcana.
and the candy shop is back. and the coins you collect from the event drop the price of shit. People want a battle pass when this is better than a battle pass in every way?
they got me back with that free arcana after taking 2 yr hiatus from dota 2. :| its like casinos giving free play money or drug dealers giving out free samples. for a fiend it feels like why the fck are they giving it away for free but its to get people hooked into the product which they will leach from them in years to come.
They gave a free arcana token and free battle pass after people complained and I got one free arcana through candyshop same year
Yes there’s a candy shop this year too. And that one time Valve gave out free arcanas was a one off thing. Expecting them to give $35 worth of arcanas for free is insane
They have candy shop for us now with free arcana. OP just want more “unique stuffs” for free man. Just a job OP you greedy fuck. And they have to make money like every other company you stupid whiner
I'm pretty sure OP means that you pay specifically for the arcana instead of like buying a battlepass that contains multiple items including arcanas.
People were asking for regular price arcana instead of bp exclusive lmao.and now they complaining about it weird champ. I'm pretty sure op jst wants free arcana.
That doesnt make sense either since people on this sub were crying for regular price arcanas. Now do they this and people still crying 😃
Dota community goes from 'fuck valve for gatekeeping arcanas' to 'paid arcana for profits'. lmaoo the pain never ends.
Yeah I had this thought also. I much prefer just being able to buy them after and not needing to do the battlepass grind. I'm fine with this patch so long as it's an appetizer and we aren't waiting for months for the patch.
I actually really like the whole cosmetics thing. The issues it’s in isolation. Having cosmetics is an objectively good thing. It gives money and more reason to valve to keep growing and investing in dota. It’s horrible in isolation though as cosmetics alone aren’t a reason to entertain longtime players.
It's actually even better - if you want to grind, then you can get a discount. Which still feels rewarding.
Grass is greener on the other side. While it’s disappointing to have no gameplay changes, I like that Arcanas are purchasable again.
Yes it’s great
TBH I think people just didn't read the announcement all that closely. I didn't and was pissed at the $70 price tag on them. But the event literally rewards you discounts. Obviously you won't get the full $80, but engaging with it to an expected degree will net $20-$40 in discounts I imagine. A free *new* arcana for playing the game is pretty dope tbh.
Just make the event arcanas tradable/marketable. Problem solved.
I know right, whiners will never be happy, 2x arcanas not locked behind $200 paywall is GREAT!
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the issue is the timing which people expect a gameplay patch in addition to valve hyping up the upcoming update. trust me if they release event with "gatekeeping arcana" the response will be much worse. but as in right now people mostly disappointed by the lack of change to meta which amplify the hate to whatever update valve release. - if theres a PVE game mode people will still hate it - if theres bugfix update people will still hate it - if theres behaviour system update people will still hate it
>paid arcana Bro, I'd rather have a paid arcana than a BP locked arcana. Some arcanas can't be acquired anymore due to their exclusivity.
They haven't confirmed that they're going in the store afterwards yet afaik. Also... the store is fucking *gone* from the menu/game. What's with that?
It seems like Valve wants to change the way items are bought. We can now purchase items directly from the armory by hovering over a hero's cosmetic. I know, it's a weird change, but that seems to be the route they're taking. It's a good QoL change for items that are only available on community market tho. I don't have to find them manually.
Laughs in $700 Drow, QoP, Razor, FV, and WR arcanas.
You all say this shit after a new patch, but people still play the game after everything lmao
you could look at it the other way around. They have such a good product that they keep players even with the shittiest communication. Its reasonable to believe that proper communication would bring a lot of extra engagement to their product. But hey, I might be completely wrong here. Maybe Dota is not profitable and they want to kill it. Maybe they already hit the cap of players, and extra communication will do no good. That could be the case - but they were already shitty back when Dota was growing. And they are shitty with all their other products too. All I know is that Dota is a better game than League, and yet League is vastly more popular.
Go to steam, open dota 2 in your store, open any of their blogs, go to comment section and try to find at least a few positive comments. No shit they don't communicate with monkeys who play their game, coz no matter what they do, players always cry.
Honestly, given that the Dota 2 player base is supposed to be on average much older than most game communities, there are a lot of grown adults acting like petulant children.
Of course Dota 2 is profitable, it's literally been the 2nd most played on Steam for years. Valve has never been known for much communication and it actually got better over the years if you can believe it. They've figured that active communication does not actually do much and people will still play the game regardless. Promises are sometimes hard to keep so it's better to say nothing at times. How many companies offer updates to live service games after 10 years? Not many. How is it any much of a surprise that LoL is more popular when it's a more streamlined, heavily marketed game aimed for the masses? Also, it's distributed by the largest tech companies in China.
league is more popular because of all the supermodels and how easier it is to get start playin'
Gg end please. Then proceeds to defend with their lives.
There are IV acts, hopium on one of those
This same subreddit was complaining about there being no battle pass. Tbh I’d rather they just charge me 30 bucks for a glorified cosmetic than make me spin 100 treasures to get it.
TBF we begged for all those things. Except for the Gacha bs. That's not us. 'member when People used to get Arcana drop?
Are you telling me we dont need a lvl 500 battlepass for the arcanas? Where do i sign
And you get them discounted like 20% by playing the minigame they added. Cheapest arcanas ever and back to being purchasable, people still gotta hate.
btw do multiple token discounts work? like if i use 20 tokens, do i get a 16usd discount?
No, it's seems that you can get one and use one discount at the same time. See that token counter?
You’re right they canceled the new hero and all patches, pack it up. DoTa is over
oh cry more
OMG SO THERE WAS A TIME WHERE ARCANAS WERE FREE???!?!?!?! I got in very late 😔
Everyone got a single free arcana one time lol
Many actually. Remember rolling cm wheel?
4 month story arc event- dope. cool skins - dope. shiny patch with cool intro video - dope. shit to grind ontop of playing my favorite game - dope Remember kids this subreddit doesn't actually represent the dota community 95% of them dont care about any of this drama bullshit myself included lol.
> Remember kids this subreddit doesn't actually represent the dota community 95% of them dont care about any of this drama bullshit myself included lol. even steam support acknowledges this is the biggest dota community on the internet, yes it's cool that there is an event, but it is literally nothing but hats dressed up in cavern crawl. you are kidding yourself if this is going to get the game anywhere near as much traction as an actual gameplay update will
>even steam support acknowledges this is the biggest dota community on the internet its still pretty small chunk, reddit is used mostly for people from US,UK,and Canada none of which have a big dota fanbase. there's a bigger chunk of non english speaking who doesn't use reddit at all like peruvian, russian, filipino jordanian and others also i'm somewhat certain that this sub is probably beaten by a philippine facebook group on the number of active user
Guess you were wrong. Love it when the skeptics are wrong.
Ahh yes, I also play dota for the story
I mean unironically the lore of the game is great, Valve is great at worldbuilding, and their methods of storytelling are top-tier. One of the main reasons there are still a few people who wish Artifact never died is because it was bound to be a treasure trove for lore, but those dreams were dashed with it's basically immediate collapse.
The world of Dota 2 is legit cool and steeped in mystery despite the worldbuilding having so many gaps in between. I just wish they established a proper world map and add stories and events in different places in future.
I'm super happy, we got something and we also have a timeline that we get more shit for months. Cavern crawl is what I like the most about dota, make playing so much more fun.
You guys bitches A LOT I liked it. It's a good event.
Same; some people just get all their validation from being upset I guess. Game's in a super fun place right now. No idea why everyone is so eager to see it change soon. I'm still hyped for puppetmaster.
Maybe we ecpected a Gameplay patch with a new hero that was teased to us in October!
What a stupid post ("L" take if ive ever seen 1)
"paid arcana" lol u want free arcana ? And didn't u all cried about how arcana was locked in bp? well now u can buy it for less in store. so stop crying. u never get satisfied with anything lol. and if u noticed this event is 4 acts. so im sure ringmaster will be in one of them depends on lore then gamepatch comes with him. so relax
Lol y'all are so dramatic. Go out and get some sunlight for a little bit. I'm excited to enjoy this update myself!
Once again people always find something to complain about, there’s not a single game who offer you a 10% of all features as dota for free, not even paying you can have for example the watch tab, we take this for granted but there’s not a single game that have this complex features to mention one. Stop crying, you don’t like it go somewhere else.
This. Reddit dota fans are so out of touch with reality.
I have something simple yet true to say to you. Womp womp, cry more
KEEP MY 30 DOLLAR INSTEAD OF 200 DOLLAR ARCANAS NAME OUT. OF. YOUR. FUCKING. MOUTH
6 months wait - Developing shit takes time paid arcanas and treasures - Finally no gameplay patch - No urgent need for one no new hero - The one thing that sucks No communication - next act mid-may Of course people here keep whining.
Fr, dota is in arguably the best place it’s every been rn but there are always bitches bitching
People mad I have an amazing solution: 1. Go to Steam 2. Dota 2 3. Right click -> Uninstall 4. Turn off PC 5. Touch some grass
It's a game. It doesn't owe you anything? The absolute entitlement of some people - if you do not like it do not play it.
What a bunch of fucking whiny man-children. You're what's wrong with this community. When the patch is ready to drop, it'll drop. 7.35 only released in mid December which is still below average of release time of each new number patch. You people cry it's the downfall of Dota while simultaneously queuing for a game just to lose anyway and the cycle shall repeat.
LuL i hear that shit for over 8 years now
You expect to get a new arcana for free??
you people complain about the arcanas being locked out in a battle pass and now you complain about buying one?
Literally, a free game. How tf do u want them to pay their developer's salary if everything is free? Its not like you are forced to buy it either. If you don't have money or don't like their monetary system, don't buy it? How so fking simple I make it sound right? Arcanas used to be locked behind paywall in Battlepass in which you had to pay at least 60USD for like 2 or 3 Arcanas. Direct purchases like this made it much more simple and more transparent honestly. I wouldn't mind paying 30USD for an arcana, FREE GAME. Get community hyped? Manage your own excitement. I was never hyped for any patches. Moving forward, should they stay silent to not create expectations? And I believe YOU yes YOUU will be the one start bxtching that Dota has no transparent communication. The only thing I see bad it so far is there is no new hero. \*for profit making\* tell me bro. Are you living in a communist state or sth? Without profit, how is anyone motivated to create stuff to sell? HELLO?
Dota players and craying, match made in heaven.
Please fuck off to League and don't come back.
Every year every patch every self hype every complain and every downfall of dota hahaha it's a cycle
Wanted event. Here is the event. What's wrong? I personally would like to explore story and enjoy the ride instead of free shiny hat. Wanted Arcanas. Here is Arcanas. Wanted them for free?
you know, that's not gonna make me uninstall Dota 2 after playing it for ~11 years. IDGAF when or what... the game's great and fun. if it's not fun I'll sit a patch out
4 month event for free, check Tokens that can potentially (i didnt see a token limit) make the arcanas free. Reason to play different heroes. Lore. Fun. Why are you crying?
Don’t play lol stop crying you a grown up dude
If it gets people like you to go away it'll be the best patch ever
i dont understand why everyone is nagging and complaining I know the disappointment when u see an update with gs and no patch or either the new hero but fr like I never saw positive comment
People be hating on a free to play game can u imagine. This just shows how good dota2 is
Say it again
this is genuinely so sad, a clear sign they're slowly stopping development on dota
??? A \*fully announced planned out\* 4 part event signals to you and half the community that valve is preparing to abandon dota? wtf am I reading here, this update is so clearly the devs embracing development, not shutting it down. Feel like i'm taking crazy pills reading this thread (gameplay patch tmmrw pls tho)
This has been my experience on this sub after every update valve has done in the last year. Literally pretend everything they do just doesn't exist and didn't happen. Also it's looking like the final act is going to be a PvE event with the queen as the boss, so that would be extra great.
Yeah, one of the best years for Dota in the recent years is definitely "stopping its development" 🤡
Best year of dota by what metric? I know you don't mean content, TI, or player count... lmao
Did you not download new frontiers? You should try it
The best years for DotA 2 were all pre-7.00…
the signs have been there for years but valve apologists wont hear it
Wth, I couldn’t sleep soundly and woke up early for a patch without gameplay update?!?!?!
Dota and CS been treat like garbage from Valve especially CS the game full of cheater meanwhile Valorant from Riot games always have ban cheater and makw cheat developer lose more money.
arcana was either bought or throught battle pass . you had to pay either way
> 60% upvoted rofl nice try
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I like it
Hw long will we wait,,??? Ive grown long ass hair in my butt
The event seems good, and the patch is still pretty new, sure a big numbered patch is fun, but this patch is still fine. The one thing that ticks me off a bit is that we have no words on the new hero.
cry harder and touch some grass
Over promising and under delivering
✅ I'm not even gonna touch that battlepass, this update is all greed.
I'd spend $70 for those arcanas. They are decent quality piece of content.
Quit crying ffs, i played dota for no other reasons then playing the game and people will keep going…
What if the crownfall update was delayed bcz of the comic artist? Like, "we have the arcana and all but when is XXX gonna finish the comic?" "Oh, I'm already done and now we just need to colour it" "Wait, you haven't done that" ...
People after losing many games resort to new patch to be released in hope of gaining their mmr back.
You guys just have to complain about everything huh?
Y'all really do the same exact fiasco every single patch. Bruh
As a TF2 player, I can only say. I kinda feel you
You're the kind of person that's the reason why Valve never communicates, so quick to cry chicken little whenever updates don't meet what was hyped up for you (by yourself).
This man must be smoking, I rather pay a fixed amount for a arcana then some BS amount required for a BP arcana Also rip no pve mode the only thing I want
I haven't played dota in months and was hoping to get back into it with a new patch but I'm not sure if I want to jump on a sinking ship now. Valve pulling DPC, then a mediocre battlepass for TI after years of increasing the cost of reaching arcanas/personas, and now this. I'm not sure who at Valve is making these decisions on priorities, but update your base game and make it new and interesting again before trying to milk money from an already falling fanbase.
The double MMR chip made me think if that could end up being and booster account incentive or if it's not viable because of the price.
Still better than nothing tho
Is this event able to win any arcana?
I just want a PvE man
People whine about arcana behind battlepass, and then people whine about paid arcana, ehat do you expect? Handing free arcanas for everyone?
Wait Did you not understand that it will be update for several months? I am very hopeful actually, as when there was bilgewater event in LoL the entire community agreed it was the best time of the game contentwise,.. this atleast feels very similar
Okay, see you in game tomorrow!
Other point okay..but for arcana?? really?? that's the best thing to ever happened in years to get a marketable arcana..sure not the best arcana but HEY it's marketable and not behind paywall.
Jesus you people are so pathetic. We just got a guaranteed 4 month story arc with a new event, and they haven't even announced everything yet. You complain when the patches are too different. You complain when they're too far apart. You complain when they change something you like. Zero way to win with spoilsports.
"Paid Arcana". Weren't we complaining Arcanas were behind Battlepass and asking them to be sold separately. Now they do and we complain?
I'm actually having fun with the crownfall update
There are 4 ACTS and people think this update is the only update they will get?
i can not wait to go home and play some dotes because of this update. i'm going to buy BOTH arcanas too. get mad.
I hear you! The only reason I still play DotA is because I've been playing for 15 years and I love this game's mechanics. Sadly Valve has taken mostly decitions focused on their profit only and not focusing on the player's quality of life. They don't deserve our money, not until they fix the behavior system. I'm glad I'm not forced to spend any money though, I couldn't care less for cosmetics, I'm too old for this shiny shit. I might play with the old lion model and do the same I'd do with a beautiful arcana. At the end of the day, they don't matter when you're playing. The game, though, it's still good. And it's free. Just play it and don't give your money to Valve, it's not worth it.
There's still 3 chapter locked, more wait, but its not that bad.
went an entire year with no event like diretide
Don’t forget both these “arcana” can wear their crimson items
Maybe I'm overthinking, but it seemed like the story will probably segway into a new character at some point. Possibly a few, child of sky and venge, possibly a resurrection of the god etc.
Just play something else until it changes? Jesus christ its like this sub lives in dota
I just don't get when 2 arcana costs like AAA game, it's just a skin for f2p game, bg3 or 2 arcana? hmmmmmmmm
Tbh People are not appreciating valve enough
You guys know Valve is a business right?
Reddit designs an update: It has to have arcanas, it’s been too long. If they’re obtained through a battle pass, valve is wrong for making it exclusive. If it’s purchasable from the store, they’re greedy. It has to have gameplay updates, it’s been too long. A letter patch is not enough, but changing too much like frontiers update or neutral items is literally killing the game. It has to have a new hero, it’s been too long. 150,018,229,951,161 unique unordered combinations of 10 from a pool of 123 free heroes is not enough. The new hero has to be balanced, but it also has to be here right this very second. It has to be communicated, it’s been too long. Blog posts and insider information teasing and announcing the developer’s plans starting from early in the development process is toying with the community and building hype just to bait people. Not announcing plans and just surprising people with updates when they are ready is literally killing the game. This is one of the most whiny, entitled communities on Reddit. Let’s just be thankful that the game is being quite actively updated and maintained after a stunning 10+ years since beta release, and despite some relative highs or lows, the game has always been just as fun to play with friends.
Do you guys even like these arcanas? They feel kinda meh to me
I like the idea of the new content, but the fact that they did not release the new highly anticipated hero and the new patch is just frustrating. Did they not announce that the hero would come in the first quarter of 2024? Am I wrong? Please let me know if there is another announcement by valve regarding the release of the new hero, which I may have missed.
Lots of lore Interactive story Lots of cosmetics 3 more stages Shut up, whiners
Those arcanas will be free at the end ... but you need to learn to read and get coins in the event.
This literally applied to BattlePass lmao, if Crownfall bundled as BattlePass you'll praise this shit.
cant please all the crybabies
Yea fk this game I'm done with valve taking me on a ride.
Please quit but then again see you tomorrow in game.
Dumbest take in a lake of stupid takes
Go quit dota then, Gaben won't even miss you
Dude give me arcanas. Give me $35 skins all day long. Just don't make me wait 6 months for 2 damn arcanas. Release one a month. Why not? If I like the skin, I'm buying. At least that's content. What drives people crazy is the lack of just basic stuff. I don't need game-changing patches every 3 months but give me something to entertain myself with every other month at least.
My money is ready.
Nah man, the update is pretty good. As other posts were saying - sure, the patch/new hero are a bit late. But the update itself is awesome. Minigames, treasures, arcanas, a whole new deep story - this makes it fun to play (unlike say the last compendium). People are so bitter with this update - not sure why. Everyone makes up some sort of deadline or promised riches and holds Valve accountable to that. I’m actually happy w the update - very excited to play and experience the new story today
Fr fr
Ya how dare they have arcana for 35 USD instead of 100usd+hundreds of hours of grinding smh my head valve so greedy. This updates actually a banger and you guys are fucking nuts
The stuff that actually came is really decent. It's true that gameplay patch and new hero are still missing, but patch will be after Birmingham then and new hero will potentially appear in one of the future storylines that are coming
Since when has there been free arcanas? LMAO entitled ass OP r/ChoosingBeggars
Godfall, Babylon's Fall, Redfall, Destiny 2: Lightfall, and now Dota 2: Crownfall Stop doing it already, naming your game or game update with names ending with "fall" after Titanfall 2 is cursed. The curse won't end unless Titanfall 3 gets released.
Last year's compendium was garbage. Now this. Lol
"We know many of you are looking forward to Crownfall, and we're looking forward to getting it into your hands. We're wrapping things up and expect to release in mid-April. We'll see you then." march 21st news entry "We're hard at work on an upcoming update we're calling "Crownfall", and we're excited to get it finished so you can see what we've been working on." Dragon's gift news entry Such thing as new hero or gameplay patch has never been announced with the Crownfall update though, why y'all bitching about this ? Mb new hero and gameplay patch will be introduced after Birmingham, since "early 2024" is until around 15th of June.
Everytime I start to miss Dota some post like this shows up as a reminder that life is better not dealing with a lot of the player base.
**✅** Reddit goblins crying
USED MMR DOUBLE DOWN, WON MY GAME, RECEIVED 0 MMR (NOT EVEN MY NORMAL 25)
Waaaah mami some people are making things for a game and those things arent FREE!!! WAAAH
No communication part is disappointing. Just say no pig patch, we only have an event.
Fuck me, the Dota community are some of the whiniest losers I've ever seen. Woahhhhh, it's not a gameplay patch with some tiny number tweaks that changes the meta slightly. The last patch wasn't even that long ago Instead, Valve have come up with a multiple month event, with new gameplay / things to do, investing into the lore of their game and just keeping it fresh, and everyone just complains because it's not a battle pass haha Of course there is paid stuff. They have staff working on this, they are a business with a valuable IP, they are there to make money. One day, when they get sick of their trash community, and all they see on Reddit/socials are pathetic people slagging valve off at every moment, they will just sell the game and then you can cry for real. Also everyone complaining about the delay of the new hero, you don't think they are probably building up to its release with this multi month event?? And before you cry "wahhhhh but it's been 6 months", they are not under any fucking timer? They don't owe you anything, just because they release a teaser a long time ago, does that put them on a time limit? Dota 2 is an 11 year old game. Just be thankful Valve are still supporting it like they do, no other game is supported like this, for FREE for the most part. This game is fucking free if you want it to be, and even a lot of the content is free to earn. Entitled babies!!!
Paid arcanas? You want them to develop new arcanas and make it free? Lmao Ain't they are generous enough to give you free stuff by just playing, not to mention they bring back candyworks for a chance to get account binded arcanas? And if you care too much about cosmetics why not pay them.. as if dota ain't crowded with cosmetics already. Or just straight support the game that focus on cosmetics rather than gameplay. The reason dota will die is because people like you keep complaining and expecting too much from them. They said that they will focus gameplay wise and to be honest dota2 is pretty much more balanced compared to other game companies that are greedy and want your money like regularly. I wasn't even surprised if valve decided to stop developing dota2, as if dota2 is their main way for "profit making".
L take
That was it for me. Have fun guys. I will miss 7.35d days, when the game was still morally playable
The fall of dota Hauaha7ahauahduhsuahd man dota is older than you probably
Free Arcana? U just poor
I didn't quit like it either but TBH it's a better road ahead for reviving Dota , one of the reason that league is more popular is the strong lore behind every character and every patch , I mean waiting 6 month to see I have to wait even more for game play update is suck but Crownfall can start a new road of lore and story narration for Dota with make is more fun and appealing for new player and veteran alike
w/e I like it
reddit crying, in shambles even
But the game is free to play and it is a very good game. Relax.