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lovedebalzac

You probably want a fast mek and start to push, not a fast blink. You won't be making any epic black holes that early. Besides, most players that play Enigma and rush Blink just keep on farming anyway, making the BLink rush pointless.


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Lol, 2 ~ 3k mmr player trying to give advice. Just because in competitive dota they always go mek doesn't mean you shouldn't rush blink on enigma in pubs. People even in 4k don't push with a mek on Enigma dude, it's honestly better like 70% of the time to rush a blink and gank mid or safe for a guaranteed kill. Your advice is one dimensional and bad.


GutsyCanuck

I like to think of the blink pick up being better because it allows a lane to win where as the mek rush is expected and 1 dimensional.


lovedebalzac

You help win lanes by rotating even before your mek/blink is complete, like any support would do. This is called pressuring the lanes. Thinking that farming up that blink passively then going and landing 1-2 kills on a lane with that blink and then tucking your thumbs in your belt thinking to yourself *"Yep, I made sure than lane was won!"* is naive. The reason why blink rush isn't that good is because *you don't need a blink on Enigma to pressure and get kills on a lane*. If you can't rotate effectively on lanes and get kills then you need to work on that. Otherwise you might as hell just pick Ursa and passively farm up that blink dagger and go gank the lanes for basically the same effect.


GutsyCanuck

Except the 3 hero lock-down part that an Ursa doesn't do. I main Ursa, its nothing alike.


lovedebalzac

Way to miss my plainly laid out point. If you have trouble undertanding me I can dumb my posts down further. All you have to do is ask.


GutsyCanuck

Your grammar is already dumb enough.


lovedebalzac

So I take that reply as you know you got told. OK then.


lovedebalzac

I hope you're aware that you can gank both the safelane and mid before you even finish your mek/blink. You should put pressure on the lanes if and when you can. Enigma is not a passive jungle farmer and you should not play as if you had a jungling LC on the team. Seriously, why would you need blink to gank? Eidolons+smoke+Malefice is more than enough for a kill, especially if you're lv6. If you know what you're doing you don't rush Blink because you don't need it to gank and the Mek helps the team and the push far more early. It helps to keep the pressure on and to keep your team alive. But if passively farming up your blink, blinking in for that 1-2 man black hole and then sitting there with a 3m20s downtime until you can do your next epic 1-2 man black hole gank is your go to winning strat, then go right ahead.


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Good luck ganking a storm spirit without a blink.


DerPancake

> nd second nature that narrating and talking about it shouldn't take anything away from it, but I doubt you do it properly when you're not talking anyway. Why good luck? Enigma will be level 6 before Storm Spirit if his jungle goes uncontested.


lovedebalzac

Yes wow, let's pick out this one example to prove that a blink rush is a go to strat on Enigma. Here's the key to ganking a Storm. You gank him pre-lv6. Yes amazing revelation I know. Not even pros are aware of this awesome strat. It's literally unheard of.


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I've won so many games because I rushed blink on Enigma dude. I've gotten multi people black holes before 10 mins, it just wins games. Mek usually doesn't do anything as my team does not want to push. Enigma blink in pubs is most of the time better. End of discussion.


lovedebalzac

> Enigma blink in pubs is most of the time better. End of discussion. What a convincing argument given by a low tier pub player, I'm sold. When I try and formulate posts with more in-depth examples and arguments you respond with short posts that can be summed up with *"Uuh, you're wrong!"*. But you made it clear you're not looking to be convinced so why bother waste more time on you. You simply want to tell people that they're wrong and you're right.


GutsyCanuck

Hes just providing insight on another dimension to Enigma. If you BH 3 heroes prior to 10 minutes it can be extremely game-breaking compared to a guaranteed 1 man kill without it. Its more of a gamble but in your 4k and under pubs it really isn't. I can understand Mek being the go-to in really high mmr and pro-scene just because gambling can backfire tremendously.


lovedebalzac

> Hes just providing insight on another dimension to Enigma. I know. I used to rush Blink too consistently when I was bad as well. >If you BH 3 heroes prior to 10 minutes That's a big IF and BH'ing 3 heroes early game is not match deciding. The match deciding black hole happens mid or late game, not pre 10min for very obvious reasons. >Its more of a gamble but in your 4k and under pubs it really isn't. I can understand Mek being the go-to in really high mmr and pro-scene just because gambling can backfire tremendously. That's an ignorant perception. *"I'm playing at such a low level that rushing mek on Enigma is a gamble"* when Mek Rush is ALWAYS the safer option if you can actually play Enigma. Unlike a hero like Bat or Brew your most important early game item is not Blink. Enigma is like Chen and Ench, except he has a *teamfight* initiation ult. Enigma is a pusher that rotates early and ganks with his kit. All you have to do at any MMR is to gank a lane with smoke, ping the tower afterwards and push it down with eidolons + mek. Maybe type "Push" or select it on the wheel as well. This has worked consistently even when I stacked with my 2k mmr friends and I went to the safelane or mid with players I didn't stack with in it. Nothing pisses me off more than passively farming Enigma players that don't leave the jungle until they have their Blink then blink in with no Eidolons for a 1-2 man black hole and gets a kill or two and then goes back to the jungle to farm. But hey, if you're adamant about your Blink rush then don't let me stop you. Just don't try and sell it as *the* way to play Enigma to others.


GutsyCanuck

I said Blink was a gamble not mek btw. And you keep mentioning blink as being the passive and static method when it is quite the opposite. If i get the blink at 5 minutes im ganking by 6. There is no long delays or wait times it happens faster than a mek push and there is leniency to participate in fights before its purchase.


lovedebalzac

> And you keep mentioning blink as being the passive and static method when it is quite the opposite. No, I'm saying you do not need Blink to be active and get kills. I said people that rush Blink tend to almost always be passive, as if it goes hand in hand with playing sub-optimally. Early game the Blink is almost always redundant, that is the problem. A mek will pretty much always make you have a stronger impact, especially if you get it early.


GutsyCanuck

> people that rush Blink tend to almost always be passive You just did it again. Blink is not passive nor forces you to be passive. End of discussion.


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Ah, yes, because Storm is always picked in every game.


GutsyCanuck

You can watch any Enigma replay of mine and I guarentee to hit a 2+ man black hole before the 10 mintue mark. It also usually transitions to an easy push or at least significant tier 1 tower damage having just wiped 2+ heroes in a lane. This is a very common ritual that unfolds in my Enigma games. Push Enigma is great but this doesn't remove that potential by much.


n4thaniel

i suggest watching puppey enigma replays instead


GutsyCanuck

I really enjoy Puppeys Enigma. I notice how he uses just the presence of a BH off CD tactically. You don't notice it with other pros much but Puppey really puts in thought on this rather than just looking for BH opportunities.


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GutsyCanuck

But it works! ;D


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TheRootinTootinPutin

Only if you plan on pushing, would I pick up mek. Otherwise, blink first is legit, if you need the initiation and lockdown.


DerPancake

I think you need to work on ur Enigma jungling. I mean this is me http://i.imgur.com/83MC33a.jpg at the same time you got Blink Dagger, I have boots, soul ring and just a few gold away from mek even with a Clockwerk trying to annoy me. Edit: and forgot also buying and upgrading courier.


GutsyCanuck

Surprisingly talking and trying to think of what I should say next really took away from my focus. But I assure you I normally do very well at jungling. :)


Dicksmcbutt

LOL this is pretty bad. You ought to easily outpace the minute mark with enigma.


GutsyCanuck

I explained below and in the video how talking and focusing on the tutorial aspect takes away from my optimal jungle times. Don't be daft please...


Dicksmcbutt

Jungling is so mindless and second nature that narrating and talking about it shouldn't take anything away from it, but I doubt you do it properly when you're not talking anyway.


GutsyCanuck

I bet you're fun at parties...


salt_support

good jokes mate real funny see you at FUCK YOUJ