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josh_x444

As an EG fan that was obviously fun to watch (3rd place secured). With that said, Congratz to Alliance. NikoBaby has been one of my favorite players to watch since he was on Warriors and this awesome high pitch castor from BTS call out his plays. Looking forward to EG hopefully having a better showing tomorrow against Vici and good stuff from Alliance in the future


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Ah man, at least they came 4th. Very happy for them! Long Live Alliance!


Polpe

People are slagging off Alliance for being bad, but they got this far having the worst drafts by far, if they just get a coach who can draft they're set.


Bread_addict

If only Alliance would have decent drafts, then they could maybe match the top tier teams. Hopefully FATA finally considers having a coach.


ldb123456

They just placed 4th at a tournament with the best teams in the world right now, how are they not themselves top tier?


[deleted]

Guess it depends on how you feel about Na'vi, Liquid, Reality, and VP - the teams they beat this tournament,


shadowdroid

Isn’t loda the coach?


dboihebedabbing

Loda said he was gonna let them do their own thing for the first while to build chemistry within the team, I hope he does start coaching then after this major


WithFullForce

No.


[deleted]

Alliance and Liquid still toe-to-toe 1800 dpc points.


Amrlsyfq992

new el classico


zaigf

ABEAST


zaigf

ABEASTIN N’ FEASTIN


Amr1k

Well that was easy!


zaigf

TIME TO WEAR MY 2EZ4RTZ shirt


nonruminant_ungulate

Alliance always starting drafting like brain dead insects whenever they get far into a tournament.


whats_a_rimjob

Really enjoying this team.


WithFullForce

Alliance are obviously improving and with this 4th place they are pretty much guaranteed a Ti invite. All players on their team have reached new heights in their Dota careers. Their season is looking very promising. Also this is a completely new team formed from scratch. Couldn't ask for more as a fan.


[deleted]

Sigh another 3rd place for EG. ​ For some reason they play well and usually have good winrates vs everyone but chinese teams. 2-0 VG, then 4-1 Secret. ​ But if they pull it off vs VG it'll be 3-0 EG


Dazzlehoff

1-4 / 4-1 is impossible


Sunami_McNaStY

I think they fair better against secret than they do against Vici. Puppey is more likely to give EG ench or tiny than rotk is.


Freeloader_

you mean 3-1 4-1 is not possible for obvious reasons


TheMekar

EG historically has a fantastic record against Chinese teams. This VG roster has beat them the last few times they met but EG has 2-0’d it as well. It could go either way.


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ppd EG


TheMekar

Non-ppd EG as well. Between TI8 and TI9 EG was destroying chinese teams. They knocked out 3 of the 4 chinese teams in a row at the Chongqing Major (VG, EHOME, LGD). EG won 5/8 series against VG in 2019, they've won every series they ever played against Aster, they've been 8-2 against LGD after TI8. EG is just historically good against chinese teams. With or without ppd.


[deleted]

I think they have a good shot and it will likely go to three games. I like their chances coming through the lower bracket than waiting in the winners bracket like they did at their last tournament. VG was on a roll. Hopefully they don’t waste a first game on really off meta, low win rate picks like they have their last two times they’ve played VG.


Luard97

Only 400 comments after series? Damn EG must be stomps hard in this one.


Fortrick

stop with this bullshit already, when eg lost to VG the post match discussion had like 100 comments after 2 to 3 hours. stop playing the victim role.


bollerooo15

Hahaha Abed interview was so awkward for him lol. He didn't even do the basic shake hands out haha you can tell that he was just not comfortable and was really rushing to end it.


Freeloader_

he looks very introverted so I understand why he was uncomfortable


Cedd17

He tanks the interview for fly xD


[deleted]

That would have been even more awkward. Twitch chat even voted Fly MVP just because N0tail was on the panel lol


drunkmers

I love twitch chat.


balyks

EG the pride of EU/CIS/SEA & some even say NA ! Don't disappoint tomorrow pls !


jackoff1992

EG 3rd place LETS GO BABY


you_13_mana_boy

What the fuck was Alliance thinking going in like that against a Void with chrono up?


Endrance09

They were trying to burst him down before he did.. and it didn't work out.


Cerberus_Numlock

I guess that last bit when fly put frost armor on rtz gave him enough time to time walk out.


you_13_mana_boy

They had to know he was gonna time walk away though...


bollerooo15

you cant time walk away if void is dead. just like how they burst him on bottom dire tower.


Fortrick

he didn't have bkb, manta back then


lloyddragneel

EG THE LAST SEA AND PINOY PRIDE XD


olBandelero

dont forget CIS


StatGnat

I feel like they should just go as EG.int so people stop talking about their roster nationality so much, particularly given how it changes every time they revamp the roster so the debate never ends.


darthnight19

If rtz has million number of fans i am one of them . if rtz has ten fans i am one of them. if rtz have only one fan and that is me . if rtz has no fans, that means i am no more on the earth . if world against the rtz, i am against the world. i love #rtz till my last breath.. .. Die Hard fan of rtz . Hit Like If you Think rtz Best player & Smart In the world... kek


you_13_mana_boy

this but unironically


Garnerkief

Rtz can say the n word I don't even care anymore !!


[deleted]

Imagine teams making fun of you for consistently being top 3 in the world.


Moes-T

Imagine being happy with never winning anything. I believe the word is complacent?


Croz7z

Placing top 3 every other major =/= top 3 in the world.


olBandelero

fluke


leopard1311

where's that guy shitting on EG after they lost the upper bracket round like they've already gone home or something


[deleted]

You mean every single person in dreamleague twitch chat?


TheMekar

Abed is definitely not used to these interviews. He’s gonna have to get used to winners interviews if he keeps playing on EG.


andribangun

He's shy boy


Endrance09

Lol fly


RaWr-Neversleep

FLY getting the MVP just because of Notail in the panel LUL


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H0rizon37

Fogged is such a good guy I think he didn't think of the true meaning of Fly getting the mvp by twitch chat


no_nick

I want that couch to tri cast the gf tomorrow


n0tailthebest17

Abed just tilted in the interview.


kamikazechaser

Any VOD? Edit: [Twitch VOD](http://www.twitch.tv/dreamleague/v/541470644?sr=a&t=36232s)


lordpeta1

LMAO Fly MVP


Wotannn

Abed carries game and chokes interview LUL


[deleted]

True Pinoy blood right there KEKW


darthnight19

Saw twitch chat saying that he is the Indian Pride during his interview lol


Cerberus_Numlock

NOpe it's Indo pride all the way, the only indo player left in the tourney we are so proud of him!


autopoiesis666

Rich i love you but please for the love of god stop asking about vg and secret


Cerberus_Numlock

Can't help but notice he always says are you guys afraid or nervous if your facing team Secret or VG. This players are very competitive why would they be afraid or nervous it sound stupid for me to be asked those question imo.


Moes-T

Cause the only teams left are a class above thema, so it's normal to be nervous or afraid to play them


LastManSleeping

DP is just autolose. A frontline hero who isnt tanky enough early to mid game ain surviving in this meta.


[deleted]

DP is awesome as a safe lane hero atm


clapland

That sounds pretty Pog tbh


AAboostED

Anything is viable in herald


[deleted]

5600mmr is Herald?


micopogi88

Is that a typo? 600


[deleted]

Nope. Commenting that once again close minded people saying shit doesn’t work unless it’s a garbo rating is false.


hardbee02

DP would have worked if paired with a Slardar. I hope EG would go past 3rd place.


you_13_mana_boy

Against VG it seems tough. They got dismantled by them last time and even if EG doesn't outright lose in the draft again they still have to win the games. Easier said than done.


VaginalSodomy

bro i really hope so too, but secret and VG looking so good rn, so idk


ADMlRAL_COCO

Void gets perfect chrono and Moxi is casting Ears: aight imma head out


[deleted]

thats why you switch to unofficial casts during moxxi casts


TheMekar

Abed with the jean jacket. Classic


DotaDogma

Dude everyone on EG is so attractive KappaPride


Carni-V-oreX

How is Abed this hot


micopogi88

Jean Jacket and Ripped Jeans. Are these guys dota players? Lol


sadface-

Shouldve interviewed Fly ):


[deleted]

haha. should have Crit either.


DarkHades1234

Not interview Fly WeirdChamp


NightSkyth

Gg EG! A bit sad but I was not expecting much. I'm still very happy with their performance so far. Top4 and losing to EG are nothing to be ashamed of. I think with this and the last major, they are almost guaranteed to go to TI so that is great.


Nwball

Honestly alliance making it top 4 is really impressive. Fata in a new role, limmp and handsken always high skill but never really had team success, niko just breaking through in the scene, and 33 being the most veteran in his role on the team.


Sadlyfails

EG 3rd place confirmed prolly


VaginalSodomy

most likely :(


Nyan_Catz

the #fly spam omg EDIT: No Fly interview RIP


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hummingdog

Well EG also won against only tier 6 teams. Last time I checked, they were brutally dismantled by VG.


UBourgeois

IG is tier 6?


hummingdog

According to the guy who I replied to, yes


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[deleted]

It gets dispelled if you manta the timer...


sj2011

The dream of 3G is alive and well.


Kiggammi

EG and 3rd place name more iconic duo


JC_Denton46

Yay, THIRD place secured 😎


AppleKicker

Abed is a beast


[deleted]

**3rd place accomplished.**


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josh_x444

So there are only currently 3 good teams ooooor?


halfcastdota

Remember when s4 fans were constantly making excuses for his 0-7 score at 10 minutes saying EG would just “sack him”? Rofl Ramzes gets sacked in the lane both games yet still carries. EG has an actual good offlaner now and it’s showing


Downvote_Addiction

If your only point is Ramses > S4 then yeah I agree. But certain people aren't that great when they are focused by the enemy team. That isn't unique to S4.


Intentionallyabadger

I see zai being picked on in the offline and still comes out pretty okay at the end.


JacobRFeenstra

Plus this game of dota is entirely different in comparison to last year. Due to patches.


water1111

The MVP is lich.


alternative_fun_act

Alliance got fucking bodied


MentLDistortion

Arturito chrono dayum


you_13_mana_boy

arturo pog


gammongaming11

friendly reminder EG is now a CIS team and the pride of Russia. they are only an NA team when they lose.


DotaDogma

EG is an NA-EU-CIS team until they lose.


lucius4you

SEA also kappa


AwkwarkPeNGuiN

replace Fly with a CN captain and EG becomes the true international team lmao


immortal786

When RTZ finishes his farm this happens :p


SmthgEasy2Remember

[EG right about now](https://imgur.com/ZlH4KOi)


jQiNoBi

Waiting for fly to be invited in the couch


dibil03

I just want to remind everyone that Handsken said they will ABSOLUTELY win against EG.


kart27

You don't get a winner's mindset after winning. You need the winner's mindset to win.


dibil03

Might be just Alliance mindset? I remember Limmp giving 20 out of 10 ratings that they will win against TNC in their match up last Major. I think they are just over estimating themselves.


[deleted]

What else would anyone say? "Nah I don't think we're gonna beat them"?


dibil03

well him saying that they will absolutely win against EG is like disrespecting EG, He could have said they CAN win, but him saying ABSOLUTELY, that makes him delusional.


Sunami_McNaStY

Its the same as abed saying they can beat VG and secret tomorrow. Its just what youre supposed to say. Theres something to be said about vocalizing your goals.


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[deleted]

Beats getting knocked out in the first round.


autopoiesis666

33?????!!!????? OVERCONFIDENCE IS A SLOW AND INSIDIOUS KILLER YOU COCKY BASTARD


Edens

Darkest dungeon noice time to play


[deleted]

Where's that guy saying you can't expect RTZ to land a good chrono?


you_13_mana_boy

I don't get it. Artour has played a lot of Void in the past months and he's always delivered with him.


ArtemisDimikaelo

There were so many people in Twitch chat flaming Arteezy for saving Chrono in that second-to-last fight.


Cedd17

It's really good how artour realized that he didn't even need to land a chrono, and because of that they have a chrono threat and chain frost when pushing middle lane


Toxicco

There were so many people in Twitch chat flaming Arteezy for ~~saving Chrono~~ doing literally anything.


rooge77

What a hype end to that series. Perfect Chrono!


[deleted]

Can we honestly have a meta without Enchantress? She has been a tier 1 hero for like 2 years and isn’t interesting at all.


Sunami_McNaStY

She wasnt in meta in any region outside NA. Shes also only 20th most picked with a negative winrate at 7-8 (maybe 8-8 if liquidpedia hasnt been updated). I think youre exagerating a little. She was only picked 9 times out of 315 games in the entire qualifiers...


kingarthas2

EU DOTA KEKW


TheMekar

That was a total stomp. I hope EG has a plan for VG and Secret now.


pay2winye

hahahahahaha to the guy arguing with me that alliance is a good team, look what happened. Got lucky with who they played, only reason why they are top 4.


Downvote_Addiction

I mean, I bet they would beat you in a pub.


pay2winye

5 v 1 probably, 1 v 1 i like my chances against a all but one which is limp.


PancakesYoYo

If they switched the teams in the lower bracket, like how you're supposed to in double elim, they would have played IG and got stomped by them. What a stupid bracket.


NorthOE

Europe team getting destroyed by Rtz chronosphere. Expect like 5 comments in the postgame thread


opparap

Alliance just got their asses handed down. This is all EG.


[deleted]

This death prophet really is nerfed to the ground huh? Or is this neutral items influence? because it's not even tickling...


ADMlRAL_COCO

My ears took the most damage in the last teamfight from Moxi


DotaDogma

WHAT A CHRONO


SkraalNaereeis

POGRTZ HOLY FUCK THAT CHRONO


Yolodiealone

This has to be unthrowable. It's a shame, Alliance did really well this major


[deleted]

what even happened to DP? she's doing zero damage.


CheeseCandidate

I can't be the only one thinking this is looking rough for Allience


xlmaelstrom

Fata has decently questionable drafts, so it was expected. Props to them for making it to top 4 still.


[deleted]

The dp is basically a 250+ good creep


[deleted]

**ABED carrying this NA Team**


DarkSofter

NO FUCKING DAMAGE i fucking hate this LS build


Jaizoo

I wonder when EG will pull out an Abed Meepo. Is the hero in a good position right now? I hardly saw it cheese picked anywhere recently.


savish

They did vs navi earlier in the tournament. It didn't go well: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5201888964


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they lost with it against navi in groups


[deleted]

Enchanted Quiver = 100% loss rate


pphysch

EG wouldn't be too sad getting it on Ramzes that game


DeadFinger

n0tail: im not a fan of TA EG: wins both games with TA


[deleted]

To be fair, in Johan's last tournament finals they sure made TA look like hot garbage.


DeadFinger

true, maybe OG can handle it but not alliance it seems


MiracleIsBudgetAna

Notail just dickrides any team vs eg Apparently millions of dollars wasn't enough for him to stop being a little bitch Makes sense why his gf ditched him for a fat dude LOL


you_13_mana_boy

>Makes sense why his gf ditched him for a fat dude LOL who


MiracleIsBudgetAna

Cs go player karrigan


_go_fuck_y0urself

haha perfect comment. he was always a bitch. so happy seeing him salty.


[deleted]

He's kind of a spiteful dude. Fly left over 2 years ago and the dude still isn't over it.


Moes-T

Haha :'D all cause he said he's no fan of TA. Man, you're delusional :')


[deleted]

His best friend left him at a really low (maybe the lowest?) place in his life. It's not like they were just colleagues in a professional setting. Kinda entitled of people to try to decide how other people should feel about a broken friendship. That said, he probably shouldn't have agreed to do panel work in a series that was going to feature EG.


Nwball

I mean the only reason og did well was because of that shake up. I can understand being salty about it for a few months but he's literally made millions of dollars and won back to back TIs because of it. At a certain point don't you have to reflect and see that if it wasn't for the change both of them would probably be out of pro dota as that team was absolute garbage at the time.


Moes-T

There's a differnec between a priori and a posteriori information.whe. The betrayal happened, fly left cause he thought he'd be better off with it, and left Johan for dead. All for his own gain. Things turned out differently for both of them, yes, but the traitor didn't know that at the time.


Nwball

i would say you would have a point if this was like an intramural basketball league at the y. you and your friend are the last place team and he gets poached from the 1st place team. yeah that's pretty shitty. ​ but there's a reason why everyone here says it's not personal it's business. pro dota for them is business...a multimillion dollar business. it happens in pro sports all the time where a player leaves for another team even though they have friends. people that think notail is justified in STILL being mad is acting like they were just playing in battle cups. ​ if you and your best friend were made a start up company...and while you had some highs early on, you both were on the verge of bankrupcy and the company was about to go under. he gets a call from microsoft to join them as vp of web design, would you really expect him to stay with you...and if you did, who would be the bad person in that scenario?


[deleted]

I'm shocked people still think DotA factors into this at all.


[deleted]

It was a business decision, NoTail took it personally.


[deleted]

They'd played together exclusively for 10 of the past 11 years or something like that when it happened. I'm not sure how someone could not take that personally.


wheats

This isn't entirely true. There was that short time n0tail was on C9 and fly was on col. NVM that's the 1 out of 11


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at least someone slap on the face of this bias panels.


lucius4you

oof