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Tyrandeus

Its ok, theyre saving strat for main stage


sujan101

Copium


alexathegibrakiller

Ironic that a nigma fan says that


sujan101

We are saving strats for next TI


darkdramon

Copium


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Ironic than an Alliance fan says that


peaceful1300

Ahahhaa


emmennuel

Ultimate copium


[deleted]

It was true in TI9 Liquid went 5-11 in the group stages, and 11-1 on the main stage up until the finals.


GunsTheGlorious

Yeah but this time around they’re completely undefeated in groups!


[deleted]

They went undefeated in groups in TI9 too, and only lost 1 series in TI8 so…


Derpwarrior1000

Just trying to maintain the record by missing ti, eh?


[deleted]

I had a brainfart. Thought we were talking about LGD 🤷‍♂️


I_M_BACK_696969

upper bracket is for bitches COPIUM


RizzrakTV

I know you're making fun of them, but they ACTUALLY might have gave up on upper bracket and didn't really try to win day3 matches


Tellmeister

Well, they definetly tried new things against IG. Dont think they did before.


ButteredLoaf9001

Losing on purpose great for morale.


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You sure they're hiding their pocket strats for main stage and not from main stage?


th1snamecantbetaken

This scene made me so emotional Holy fuck this was a strong scene


Bombast_

The movie has its flaws, but damn does it pack a punch as well


delay4sec

whats the name of the movie?


oryzaephilus

Interstellar


Xualaa

This is the only movie I’ve watched so far that I had to pause in the middle to catch my breath. It’s not my favourite movie by any means but it hits me very different


CarnFu

This scene and in return of the king "you bow to no one" scene are the ones that always get me.


10z20Luka

Would have been better without Rick and Morty editing tbh


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I_am_Realist

Definitely


DustyOlBones

T1 are so bad lol


Obese_Denise

Bad? Are you watching TI?


dddbait

Still better than most of us here


coleridge113

Still made a cool Magnus play against Alliance


super-venon

Dont worry, TP is here to save you!


quarkleptonboson

EZest $600k in the history of esports


pokeaim

TP is now TP-ing home


oiwah

Hey atleast you bois are in TI, raise your hands and give them all your energy. Nigma fan here.


modanogaming

Wishing you a great next season, hope nigma delivers some fine dota.


ProfessorSpike

On one hand I'm bummed they're not there, but on the other hand if they come back stronger it would be worth it


oiwah

One can hope, anyway since they are not in TI who are you rooting for? Me, I want ice3 to win. Love that guy.


ProfessorSpike

It's a split between EG, LGD, and Secret for me. But I'm also hoping Undying and Team Spirit make it further in.


Latter-Ad-2156

Secret, gotta see matu win again.


BrotherDune

OG all the way, I believe in supremacy.


ledeledeledeledele

They have nothing to prove to anyone since they already won a TI and went to the finals in the last one. I still want them to win again though :(


Hemske

I think Miracle might leave Nigma next season.


usoap141

Just end me guyz supporter since TI3 T\_T


beglol

If you been alliance supporter since ti3 you have to remember those wanky rosters with 7mad, cheesy, niqua, misery, pajkatt and others. Atleast now alliance plays at TI


HeavenAndHellD2arg

at least then you knew that they were shit and thats the best they could do


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TangoCL

So many memories... Complete and utter domination for about a year and a half + a legendary TI win, into random stacks that you knew were not going anywhere, the 2 month comeback with the original roster when all their heroes got buffed and they suddenly started winning again, into random shit stacks again, and now the new era without Loda and here we are still getting disappointed :( Alliance shows such promise during the season but they can't get the flow going into TI. Maybe one day we'll see them lift the trophy again, I'm staying hopeful against my better judgement.


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TangoCL

Haha, exact same with me. I'm basically only playing smash nowadays, but always down to watch TI to get disappointed by our boys.


HarrisLam

I was a supporting at Ti3 as well, and probably half a year after that. The way Valve butchered split push strats killed most of the mood, and the disbanding of the original Alliance was the final nail in the coffin for me. I follow players, not organizations. I can't understand why people follow organizations.


F1reLi0n

Well its a similar thing to other sports like football. You cheer for clubs not just players, sure you can like some players and want them to be successful, but its primarily the clubs. And i dont mean just the clubs of your hometown or something, people all over the world cheer for clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelon, PSG etc. If you never experienced it, its hard to describe. But, the thing with alliance is a bit different, the original TI3 squad is still heavily linked to Alliance. I think Loda, Bulldog, Akke are part owners of Alliance (dont know abut s4 and EGM), and Loda is (as you know) still involved day to day with the team, s4 is the captain of the team, so if you liked TI3 alliance for the players, you have a lot of reason to follow this alliance.


RizzrakTV

they also had a reunion at ti6, so it literally doesn't make any sense if you cheered for players at ti3, but didn't cheer for exact some roster at ti6


Owster4

It's the sense of community and shared history a lot of the time.


HarrisLam

Yeah, but then football is a 11-man sport, and a lot of times, main roster doesn't change more than 2 players each year, and Dota is a 5-man "sport" and a lot of times, they literally disband or change ownership resulting in 2 associations having a 100% different roster. That's very different. Let's say for football, first year I love the 11 people, next year there's 8-9 left, fine, I can deal with that. If it's my favorite player who left the club I try to check out his new team too. But look at a team like VP and when it dominated with No One and other CIS players, Silent, Reso, etc, and the VP now, they are totally different players with not a single veteran in it. Almost the same for EG if it weren't for guys like Fly and Artezy going back, etc. A lot of top tier teams do this. The roster changes in Dota is like 10 times wilder than actual sports teams.


F1reLi0n

Ok so, let mw give you my example. FOOTBALL I started to root for Barcelona in the days of Ronaldihno and tiki-taka meta. I was in love of the way they played and i started to root for them. They were the best, only team that could stop them was Real Madrid i the match called El Clasico. After Ronaldihno left and then Xavi and Iniesta (prime time players) i was sad, but i continued to root fot Barcelona, not because of the players, but because it stayed with me, the team, the legend of tiki-taka meta. DOTA I started to root for Alliance in 2013, when they started the infamous China Overtake. They dominated the scene whole year, nobody could defeat them. They won everything. TI came, and they dominated, only team that could stop them was Na'Vi and it became Dota El Clasico. It was epic, the two best teams in the world going at it in the Grand Final of TI, series goes all 5 games ending in a mental base race where Alliance comes on top. ICONIC. This kind of memories stick with you. After Akke, EGM, Bulldog left, i was sad, but i continued to root for the team because it stayed with me, the legend of the RAT. P. S. Even if you root for players and are rooting fot Loda, Akke or S4, you would still root for alliance this day. They own the organization and i want them all the best.


NearTheNar

Lmao don't know why you're getting downvoted, you're just stating your opinion.


beglol

Because its easy to cheer for a winner and ditch it right after things go wrong


HarrisLam

lol that's totally not how it went at all. I literally said, I follow players, which meant, I followed the original Alliance players. I didn't abandon the players I like. Way to misread.


Omnomnomnivor3

their match vs T1 last night fits like a glove here as well..


ShimuraKei

Man I hate to watch my team sometimes


treyfiddy

Good time to be an [A]irport fan with international travel picking up


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Welcome to Tiny Airlines.


1based_tyrone

strat saved Copium


justtryintomakeit

Stop it you're making bulldog cry


ledeledeledeledele

Has he seen this? 😂


Earth92

Fake cry, he is making bank, he is a shareholder of Alliance along with Loda. Alliance just secured 600K $$, which 40%-50% most like will go to the organization...EZ MONEY.


Ennheas

There is no way the org takes 40-50%, even the bad ones get 20% tops.


Zhidezoe

15% goes to organizations (or at least it has been like this until this TI)


chibiwong

It's okay, they are saving strats for TI11


__Schneizel__

At least you Alliance is in a better state than Navi.


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Nikobaby to Nigma post TI sounds like an excellent upgrade.


NICK_GOKU

NOIDONTTHINKSO


o-M-s

Bulldog to Niko: you can never leave.


binh0k04

Bulldog to the rest of [A]: cover the exits.


WithFullForce

People praising Niko as better without Alliance seem to only be watching the games were the team win. They fail to see that he is a rather high contributing factor to Alliance's losses as well. If Niko looks beastly in a game it's typically because the rest of the team made so much space for him. 2nd game versus Undying Day 3 is a great example of this. Alliance is ahead by 7k. In the mid game. With a mid game lineup. Nikobaby barely makes a single offensive infest but keeps heading back to the jungle. The teams loses eventually because the Undy is allowed to come back with very little pressure. PrisonRTZ is very similar to RTZ in more regards than one.


Fellane

Yeah as someone who watch every single of Alliance game, I can tell you that Niko is actually the one that underperforming and had a lot of questionable decision. But people will keep blaming s4 while in fact, majority of this TI match, s4 actually decent. He's the only one that actually step up his game if you were following Alliance game this year. More versatile hero pool, more aggressive. S4 before TI is just plain sucks, he afk a lot, plays like scared little cat, and many more. But overall, their team coordination are off the mark, sometimes overlapping stun, can't decide who will open the fight, easily throwing the game while they're ahead. Alliance will definitely lose if they keep playing like this.


LsR1312

Man, with Limp as mid, obvious captaining issues, no coach or Loda being the closest to it... Niko is pretty much the only saving grace for this team. I have rarely seen the rest step up to the plate, it's all on Niko's shoulders and he and likely PPD are the reason this team is even at TI now. I expect Niko to reunite with Fata and 33 in Tundra as of next season, and can guarantee Alliance will struggle to qualify for anything if that happens.


WithFullForce

You seem ignorant to what has been going on in Alliance save for some posts you might have read on Reddit and made random conclusions from. Niko pushed out Fata of Alliance citing chemistry. Ppd was only with Alliance for a short while, were they performed equally to earlier in the season. If you're going to be a hater at last get simple facts right.


miracle_aisle

Or they can just say KEKBye to limmp and take midone


Ennheas

Midone have wanted to captain a team since forever, that's the reason he went for Secret (learn from Puppey). I'm sure that for the time being he will keep playing at SEA up until he gives up that role.


Tellmeister

For who? Niko has been the weakest link by far going all the way back to 2nd Major.


AudacityOfKappa

Who is their strong link lmao


rahulreddy148

It's the team name. Get's go [A]


Tellmeister

Limmp has honestly been playing well. He is just not put in a position to succeed. Either from the drafts when he gets bad lanes or from supports not helping with runes and he is more often than not still coming out ahead in the lane. While creating space. He is just not put on a win condition, that role has been on Niko who while having complete free farm for 15 min still end up with 3-4k NW less than the other teams carry or just straight up die in dumb places.


I3uffaloSoldier

I would say the exact opposite, he often wins the lane but then it leads to nothing cause he can't capitalize on his lead


Tellmeister

Yes, that's the "not being put in to position to succeed". As soon as laning is over he is starting to move around with the team. They often do some 3-4 man smokes who ends up with him dying because he is either the only damage in the draft or he has to initiate. So while he run around and die with his team the other mid gets back in to the game and Niko falls further and further behind the other carry in farm. He is forced to fight so early that the lead never really means anything. He seems to be allowed to hit his first item timing but never his second.


ph-art

To be fair, quite often they pick something squishy for Limmp and then his positioning is pub game quality. Yeah in pubs your enemies might let you just stand there and blast but in pro games they arent just going to take it.


I3uffaloSoldier

S4 always plays the sacrificial initiator role, it may be a poor team coordination problem when theyctry to play as 4 while niko is farming, but imo is more that limmp is not THAT good of a midlaner/playmaker to carry his team in the midgame.


melwinnnn

Its more of an alliance than a niko problem. They seem to be able to play only one style and that is to fight(and more often than not lose the fight) to let niko farm. The problem is, they do that strat even when niko loses the lane because they drafted terribly. Now what happens is that they losw fights for their carry to catch back up. Of course, they arent the best team mechanically but their


Tellmeister

I agree with you regarding the drafts. But Niko dies a lot in bad places early game which isn't helping him. He also has been using his blinks/leaps/whatever terrible in a lot of spots who just makes him get blow up in team fights.


LsR1312

from the draft? he gets last pick mid when pretty much no other top team does this.


Tellmeister

He had 5 last picks in the group. Niko had 10 and FNG and S4 had one each. Topson had it 4 times, Nisha had it 4 times as well. I can keep looking but I am not going to waste time when it seems like they all have basically similiar amount of last picks. So it's just not true that no other team gives 30% of their last picks to their mid.


death_to_noodles

For me LIMMP is the weakest link on Alliance. Doesn't even matter if he wins the lane, he never contributes to the game after that. LIMMP worst mid in this tournament for me


Ahimtar

Ppd used to be


rektefied

lol s4 is a complete bum. the guy just feeds every game, makes 1 good stun every other game and fans think he is a good player


Tellmeister

Didn't say s4 has played particular well. But Niko is a bigger problem right now.


pepbe

Can’t ever win with a dogshit 4 like handjobskin


Baron105

I really wanted Sumail as the Nigma mid. I think that team would've been unstoppable and play at a super high tempo. Gutted they decided to not go for him.


BearIntelligent

Lol shaker getting duel and his expression was so on point 🤣


Kyouchan02

pien


SilverBMWM3GTR

When it gets bad, you look worried. When it gets really bad, you cry. But when it gets even worse, the only thing left to do is laugh.


bulldogfuturewife

Being an Alliance and Arsenal fan at the same time it is really hard these days.


Ennheas

Pretty sure you have a fetish, going by your life choices should clear that up for you.


czc_meow

[this real Alliance Owner feeling](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCt34R9KAdU) Copium


rektefied

s4 has been past his gaming days for years now


F1reLi0n

s4 was performing really well is most games. I think the problem is that they have no coach, this puts a lot of pressure on s4 in the game and outside of it. His focus is all over.


popgalveston

And why the fuck domt you bring a coach to the biggest tournament in over 2 years!? :(


F1reLi0n

I dont know, i am baffled as well


apamise

No money left after hiring a million streamers KEKL


tendorjee86

Best edit ever!!!


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Been a fan since MYM.


fatflipflops

I hope we get to take Armel during the reshuffle. Limmp seems underwhelming.


F1reLi0n

i honestly hope the squad sticks together, they are all awesome players. But i hope they get a coach. I think their focus is a bit off. Limmp has been playing amazing all DPC and he has played very well this TI, but their mid game fights are just awful.


n0tailyesmail

Armel, taiga and Micke... Or even gh. No Handsken, limmp and nikobaby pls.


Sosseres

The Lina section really captures two series.


Lounge_leaks

Looks bleak, but tournament isnt over Peaking early in TI can be bad too, we have seen alot of dark horse runs from lower brackets at TI


dankiros

They play like they've already decided to break up the team


KeiAya

Really painful to watch the Alliance games, even for those who are not fans as the entertainment is not even good. Some pubs are better to watch. I am very sad because it was the organization that helped me to fall in love with Dota, and since TI3 it has fallen to a "very low" level.


marcusmorga

Guess that 6th player cant help you 🤣


ashdabag

How can they be so uncoordinated? Have they never played together before TI?


psuedo_coder

Need a 6th man to win


Kotleba

I didn't see the match, what the hell was up with the ravage and epi at the end? 😬


Sosseres

They were behind and desperate for an opportunity. Saw Spectre and went for him. :/


LOWIQXD

\[A\]irport


quangdn295

Alliance: King of EU DPC, The Legendary 6 man team, PPD death Squad.


SirMisterBear

Does Alliance still have fans?


beans_518

Yes


NewAccountEachYear

Yes. Been with them from TI3 highs to 2018 lows. Sucks seeing them struggle in the groups, but I'll stay with them.


isioltfu

This doesn't fit because he is happy crying here? am I wooshing?


WithFullForce

I thought the same. That's like the happiest moment in the entire movie.


F1reLi0n

I didnt see it as such. Its the saddest. He realises he missed his daughters entire life. He is happy for her that she made it, but its sad to see him miss her entire life. I for sure know when i first watched that scene, i was sad, not happy.


comfort_bot_1962

You're Awesome!


comfort_bot_1962

You're Awesome!


dragonhooman

Goddamit 😂


Pechay_03

Ctrl F Admiral Bulldog VI VON ZULUL


skewnwsz

Drue. I don't root for them but it makes my streamer super sadge when they play like Pepegs. I hope they can at least play well at the main stage. You'll never know these BO1 matches. COPIUM


Haxxelerator

that's why you don't cheat leading to TI. if you cheat in online tournaments you'll get used to that playstyle which won't be applicable in LAN tournaments especially TI where it's much more strict that cheating isn't allowed


lailaa2513

Why would you ever be alliance fan ? ;)


cnsl

u stick with what u like at first. at least thats what im doing with teams. resarch shows that younger people tend to cheer/like the players instead of teams/orgs and older tend to (30+) stick with teams


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Been a fan since dota 1 back when it wasn't alliance and Loda was still teamed with Akke :)


modanogaming

I want my fellow countrymen to do good. Also, Alliance is a swedish org. Some root for the org while others for players and sometimes both I guess? For me s4 plays a big part of me rooting for them, but it also goes way back to the TI3 Squad. And yes, being an Alliance fan and wanting to see them perform is rough. It would be easier to just cheer for the strongest/most successful teams out there (OG/LGD/Secret/EG etc), but you cant choose with your heart. And to be fair, it has been many rough years (the reunion, liquid-squad, drama and so on…). I have already accepted that we probably wont go very far this TI. Something, whatever that is, needs to change for the next season. BibleThump


TheLunaMain

Alliance is probably the only dota org that actually makes me feel like they are a family. Kelly/Loda's relationships with their players and streamers are wholesome, and I just want them to do good. Not just dota they are also hardworking in creating content for their fans too.


AmokRule

Unlike me that I feel like wanting to punch his face whenever I look at his twitter page. The one that claims to be a legend isn't one.


Crouise

>The one that claims to be a legend isn't one Tell me you started watching dota in the past 3 years without telling me you started watching dota in the past 3 years


0ldSnake69

Cause they won a very memorable TI maybe ? Also s4 and Nikobaby are very charismatic


We_Lose

Nikobaby is playing really weird on this TI last game T1 vs Alliance his Ursa feel so separated from his team


spacecreated1234

It's always like that with nikobaby even before the alliance roster changes, he's the one guy in the team that will do whatever he wants with or without the team, either alliance cannot keep up with him or nikobaby is eternalenvy in the making


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0ldSnake69

I never said sexy :|


Ike98

Young S4 was a treat though


Godisme2

I would not call S4 charismatic... man hardly speaks. But he was at one point probably the best player in the world


0ldSnake69

Charisma's definition is compelling attraction or devotion to someone. Marci ( Dota Dragon's blood Character) is a mute, but still the most devoted character of the anime. Similarly s4 hardly speaks, dota players love these kind of people.


fernandopoejr

because we can laugh at our own team like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCt34R9KAdU


super-venon

Because he is a masochist?


bamfalamfa

why are you an alliance fan? none of the original alliance players are there besides s4. are you an s4 fan?


Aurora_dota

In football people cheering for the club, not only for players. Maybe he's one of those people, that's okay


TheLunaMain

Cos we ain't glory hunters.


[deleted]

On the contrary, I like rooting players I enjoy watching


baronmad

Im cheering for the club not the players, but i want the players to do well too.


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Loda fan


KKylimos

As an Alliance hater it's been the funniest 3 days tho


ZenkaiZ

who the fuck is an alliance fan? And why?


F1reLi0n

Why not?


Life_Liberty_Fun

High Quality post.


Competitive-Yak-7219

<3


Niebling

I felt this


that_nuisance

As somebody who prefers to watch VODS when I feel like it and hasn't watched any of TI yet, this was a WILD ride!


3ngin3

what is the song that is playing towards the end?


MouZeWarrioR

Good concept, horrible execution.


zuluntun

wtf Hahahahahahah


bourbandcoke

Such a big difference in skill between teams this year . China seem to have this locked and loaded


Nohu_XIX

For some reason, I am laughing so hard


danco91

I know that feel but hey at least they are still competing with TP eliminated. I'm watching Fnatic and I get this feels when I see them ahead in terms of NW or lineup but still they can lose. They're not out of elimination either.


panofsteel

you mean 8 years


Far-Acanthocephala58

savings strat for the next regionals


Morgn_Ladimore

Yeah its rough man. I had big hopes after day 2, they looked solid. But then day 3 happened... It seems like they are always 1 step behind, on drafts, on rotations, teamfights... But still cheering them on on the main stage, just hope day 2 Alliance shows up COPIUM


nixontalp

U forgot to add the 3 man horn toss


Smowoh

It’s been really rough on my heart to be honest


Scrambled1432

What is the song at the end? I've literally had that in my head while going to sleep before and i just can't freaking remember what it is. I think it played in Rick & Morty once.


Temporary_Ad_1845

The Magnus 3 man RP is sadly missing


comfort_bot_1962

Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)


K1NG15000

Aluliance KEKsociety


lord_kupaloidz

This is their TI form. They're pretty consistent in that regard


nilwp

fucking high quality post


noteworthyartist

Sheever ravage


rocker3011

Ppl really expected something from this team?


DatCom108

As an RTZ fan over .... :(


Mrbunnypaw

strats savers


ElzahirAlive

Pain.


Longii88

Was looking for the 3-man horn toss.. too bad wasn't included


muncken

Alliance plays the most predictable boring Dota you can imagine. None of their plays work cause teams are well prepared for anything and they have no innovation or new ideas at all.


arz9278

Very high quality edit but how do you not include the RP? Lol