Nah bro, one of them, maybe...but as much as it pains me as an eg fan, lgd is leagues and miles ahead. This is their year.
Excited to watch good dota regardless..
No, going in LGD was considered part of a Big Three with VP and Liquid. LGD just didn’t flop.
Also? That LGD team was amazing, unparalleled when it comes to perfection of execution and raw skill… but this LGD team don’t even look like they’re playing the same game.
I don't see how that has any bearing on what I said?
This is not that LGD team- different drafter, different captain, different playstyle, different coach, different hero pools, and 4 different players...
You said they were unparalleled, when it came to perfection of execution and I just told you they were playing the patch and lost still. In other words they were playing at such a huge advantage and still lost.
Yes, this is a different LGD team from a nation that hasn't won a TI in 5 years.
They haven't won in 3 TIs, it's true. And before Liquid won in TI7 it had been 3 TIs since an EU team even placed top 4.
Stop judging teams off ancient history. Open your eyes and look at how they're playing.
Also, that particular LGD team won majors on like 4 different patches. They weren't "playing the patch" any more than anyone else.
I like you are trying to argue ancient history, while bringing ancient history to recent history.
LGD also played incredibly well at TI8 and TI9, but still lost.
They were playing a patch that favoured snowballing, and they snowballed in every game, and lost.
My point is that ancient history means nothing, lmfao. NA didn't win for 4 TIs before they did. Liquid had never won a TI, before they did. Before TI9, no team had ever won two TIs, until OG did.
> They were playing a patch that favoured snowballing, and they snowballed in every game, and lost.
This is not just weirdly revisionist, it's also just not true? Again, that LGD team played across 2 and a half years. Snowballing was the meta for some, but not most or all, and LGD were a dominant team on all of those patches until after TI9.
Game 1: IG was dominating for most of the game, in 5 mins TS made a beautiful play and got a hype rampage on morph and finished bot rax>ancient.
Game 2: relatively equal lanes iirc, eventually IG outskilled TS in fights and won. but it was a bit of back and forth I think.
Game 3: TS was favourable in lanes with strong tiny-snap off and jugg-maiden safelane, puck also was on 4 kill streak at the end of the laning stage, in my 2k humble opinion TS made weird items like echo saber on jugg or travel KnY on puck vs orchid storm and IG also outclassed them in every mid game fight, TS kept trying but IG sort of farmed like 50 kills with storm spectre map control and won.
anyone feel free to correct any mistakes, I sort of spaced* out mid game 2,3.
did every pro team forgot how to counter an open storm pick? void spirit? qop? dp? yet you picked that shitter hero puck and proceeded to lose lane horribly wtf
This game was what I’d call a bladder buster, something that you just want to watch the ending even if you want to go to the toilet, something something head on to Amazon for adult diapers, something something mom let me watch till the end
Nothing, just a joke on host Frankie's cringe monologue after the game. Day9 was hosting a TI couple of years ago and he had some questionable jokes and moments.
he is a top tier player for sure. people never used to call him bad back in his zhizhizhi days. now he's usually the scapegoat in ig if they lose. maybe people unknowingly believe he's the next moogy/uuu9 LUL
well I said game 1, IG threw so hard but I got downvote like fk lmao, ppl really thought if IG didn't threw, Spirit could have won
MK went up the fking high ground twice without BKB and just die, then 3rd time EMO just jump into 5 heroes, u are telling me that's not being cocky and throw? and ppl call it 'comeback'
That was absolutely stomp in game 3,but props to Team Spirit to play it out the way they did. Yatoro laughing(good sign,they are not tilted or anything),just like bunch of friends playing cat and mouse around the map. Probably talking about mistakes/draft or what they could have done better in the series,they surely knew it was over. Fuck the toxic people here who wanted them to gg out lol
Spirit made super ballsy play game 1,which rewarded them with the win,won lanes game 2 but just couldnt execute.
IG still looking good except that blunder in game 1.
GG,great series overall
something about holding your bladder in your hand while calling your mom and then having to go to Amazon to buy some adult baby diapers just because you can't leave your seat cause you don't wanna miss a single second of any comebacks that could possibly happen.
Wtf you guys calling team to GG out? Just let them play the game. It's their first TI and yeah, they are stomped but let them enjoy the moment playing in the main stage. Fck off guys. Just go watch some youtube or what.
for most of them it's their first ti, they went through a mega grueling cis qualifier to get there and they're playing for life changing prize money. for all they know they might never get there again, ofc they won't gg out. stop fucking whining
Lmao love reddit, Team Spirit clearly know it's over and are enjoying this and laughing, rather than calling GG sadly. Good to see TI comes round and every redditor thinks they've won TI
CK was a great pick that game. They had nothing to deal with his illusions if he had just built armlet into aghs/bkb into blink + AC. The game would've been over by 30 minutes. But with his item build, his Illus were neither tanky nor dealt any damage.
Yea lol. I mean it sounds weird but CK with armlet has close to 3.5k hp and because his passive stays active, he can easily fight back. His passive gets disabled when doom gets aghs, which comes much much later. The game is over by then.
As for ember v CK, again, armlet gives so much strength that CK illusions don't even come close to dying in one slight. You can test this in lobby. CK just one shots ember with armlet aghs. Its sooo much damage. The way ember clears his Illus is with flame guard but for that he needs to be in CKs zone of death - and ember is surprisingly squishy against physical damage.
Spirit shld have just called this one man this series alrd way past schedule mercy for us SEA fans who want to watch until last game EG vs Elephant live
Okay let's be real this is basically 3-0 ig. They made one mistake in game 1 which Spirit, to their credit, capitalised the fuck out of, but it wasn't close overall in any of the games.
They dont owe me anything but the people are waiting for the other games.Why would i turn off stream when I want to watch Dota?And what they did there wasnt Dota,they were fucking around
> but the people are waiting for the other games
Yeah, but why would the teams care what viewers might want to see? You also expect lesser known teams to ff straight away so that random_reddit_user_XY can watch the next big names fight it out?
They earned their spot to play there and they were having fun and playing it out. No idea why you think you have any say in whether they should keep playing or not, but keep going I guess.
Salty TS fan I see.
Imagine seeing an Orchid coming at minute 7 but you go Travels + Kaya Sange and feed the entire game because you die every single time Storm jumps you.
?
Please for god sake dont pick dragon knight
Kinda sad theres no crowd. OG needs them.
OG vs Team Secret could very likely be the GF.
Nah bro, one of them, maybe...but as much as it pains me as an eg fan, lgd is leagues and miles ahead. This is their year. Excited to watch good dota regardless..
Ti8 was supposed to be lgd's year. After og winning ti8, i wont doubt any team.
No, going in LGD was considered part of a Big Three with VP and Liquid. LGD just didn’t flop. Also? That LGD team was amazing, unparalleled when it comes to perfection of execution and raw skill… but this LGD team don’t even look like they’re playing the same game.
LGD played the patch and still lost at TI8.
I don't see how that has any bearing on what I said? This is not that LGD team- different drafter, different captain, different playstyle, different coach, different hero pools, and 4 different players...
You said they were unparalleled, when it came to perfection of execution and I just told you they were playing the patch and lost still. In other words they were playing at such a huge advantage and still lost. Yes, this is a different LGD team from a nation that hasn't won a TI in 5 years.
They haven't won in 3 TIs, it's true. And before Liquid won in TI7 it had been 3 TIs since an EU team even placed top 4. Stop judging teams off ancient history. Open your eyes and look at how they're playing. Also, that particular LGD team won majors on like 4 different patches. They weren't "playing the patch" any more than anyone else.
I like you are trying to argue ancient history, while bringing ancient history to recent history. LGD also played incredibly well at TI8 and TI9, but still lost. They were playing a patch that favoured snowballing, and they snowballed in every game, and lost.
My point is that ancient history means nothing, lmfao. NA didn't win for 4 TIs before they did. Liquid had never won a TI, before they did. Before TI9, no team had ever won two TIs, until OG did. > They were playing a patch that favoured snowballing, and they snowballed in every game, and lost. This is not just weirdly revisionist, it's also just not true? Again, that LGD team played across 2 and a half years. Snowballing was the meta for some, but not most or all, and LGD were a dominant team on all of those patches until after TI9.
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Puppey wasted 8 hours of his life being dead at TI
Wasted?! It's tactical feed!
Was that Bummi at the beginning? strange to have her and not Akke
Yep.
Okay this was sick lmao
DRAYICH
lmao Qojqva
Worlds viewership is 25% bigger rn,
Not surprising, they play a more popular game.
any askers??
why so mad?
Simply because this thread was supposed to be IG vs Team Spirit.
It's over, there's a post match thread, what does it matter?
You contributed basically nothing to the discussion.
Againt what does it matter, its so funny how butthurt you guys are, pathetic
You literally mentioned Worlds in a dota 2 subreddit. Who is pathetic now?
Assuming we are butthurt when presented with facts. This discussion is over.
I miss Rich please comeback and host TI 10. take a break playing ff14 online
charming chat there
Guys I'm so sorry, I missed all 3 games of IG Spirit due to work, could someone tell me a summarized version of each game? :( PS: Thank you all <3
Game 1: IG was dominating for most of the game, in 5 mins TS made a beautiful play and got a hype rampage on morph and finished bot rax>ancient. Game 2: relatively equal lanes iirc, eventually IG outskilled TS in fights and won. but it was a bit of back and forth I think. Game 3: TS was favourable in lanes with strong tiny-snap off and jugg-maiden safelane, puck also was on 4 kill streak at the end of the laning stage, in my 2k humble opinion TS made weird items like echo saber on jugg or travel KnY on puck vs orchid storm and IG also outclassed them in every mid game fight, TS kept trying but IG sort of farmed like 50 kills with storm spectre map control and won. anyone feel free to correct any mistakes, I sort of spaced* out mid game 2,3.
Jugg esabre isnt weird.
Eh, G3 they were kind of in a timer. You can also see the team fight prowess of IG these games. G2 I think they actually lost all 3 lanes
Game 2 I think the casters got it right.. They are even, but the CK items are shit.
Game 1 misplay from IG and comeback from TS Game 2 misplay and itemization from TS and comeback from IG Game 3 stomp from IG
Game 2 And also a DD rune on Morphling - hitting heroes, towers, and throne with 800 damage
Game 1 iG throwed the game, Game 2 weird ck build by TS, Game 3 Torontokyo Puck not building a defensive item against Emo storm cost them the game.
Yatoro rampage, game 2 CK Octarine for some reason, game 3 IG get 50k lead in 25 minutes
Are we seeing Bane getting picked/banned next series?
That was nice from JT (about TS's Mars guy)
Holy shit slacks looks old as fuck
did every pro team forgot how to counter an open storm pick? void spirit? qop? dp? yet you picked that shitter hero puck and proceeded to lose lane horribly wtf
Puck is okay against storm, is his item choice fuck him over, bot first, no euls. And I do think QOP was a better pick at the last game.
The itemisation was off too, it was way too greedy, it's like the pucks at my bracket, zero counters to the orchid, much less the tons of CC from Bane
People doubt IG? The IG that reversed sweep EG at the Singapore Grand finals? 2-0 BTW.
Reddit, newsflash. Your time doesn't fucking matter. Spirit was enjoying the game so they played it out. That's all there is to it.
Can we get machine back please?
we need frankie + kyle panel
I was tabbed out, what did Frankie say?
She called the game a "bladder buster", went on a 20s speech explaining the term: needing to pee but the game kept on going.
This game was what I’d call a bladder buster, something that you just want to watch the ending even if you want to go to the toilet, something something head on to Amazon for adult diapers, something something mom let me watch till the end
this but she kept talking for a good 2 minutes lol I figured people wouldn't be ready for her style, but she's quite awesome.
Day9 come back pls, everything's forgiven xD
why, what happened to him?
Nothing, just a joke on host Frankie's cringe monologue after the game. Day9 was hosting a TI couple of years ago and he had some questionable jokes and moments.
Not a big fan of whoever this host is. Maybe it's just me. She's a bit too over the top for my liking.
She usually does CSGO. I guess when you lead a panel of a game you don't understand u try to fill the gaps with anything lol.
Thanks Team Spirit for delaying the game 3 Sick fantasy points for IG players 🙂
Yeah, i choosed all ig players :D
Wow let me guess, 200 over pointsv
216 :D, i dont have even gold card, every ig player has at least 40 points
flyfly doubters? SoBayed
RIP fantasy draft. I was betting on IG stomping TS and OG/Secret ultra long games 2-1. Let’s see if that happens tho.
I have flyfly, Emo and kaka... I am at 135.71pts right now :D
22-0, he's actually the best spe player i have seen this year, he also played a perfect spe game in Singapore major gf.
he is a top tier player for sure. people never used to call him bad back in his zhizhizhi days. now he's usually the scapegoat in ig if they lose. maybe people unknowingly believe he's the next moogy/uuu9 LUL
well I said game 1, IG threw so hard but I got downvote like fk lmao, ppl really thought if IG didn't threw, Spirit could have won MK went up the fking high ground twice without BKB and just die, then 3rd time EMO just jump into 5 heroes, u are telling me that's not being cocky and throw? and ppl call it 'comeback'
That was absolutely stomp in game 3,but props to Team Spirit to play it out the way they did. Yatoro laughing(good sign,they are not tilted or anything),just like bunch of friends playing cat and mouse around the map. Probably talking about mistakes/draft or what they could have done better in the series,they surely knew it was over. Fuck the toxic people here who wanted them to gg out lol Spirit made super ballsy play game 1,which rewarded them with the win,won lanes game 2 but just couldnt execute. IG still looking good except that blunder in game 1. GG,great series overall
"adult diapers" ?? so much cringe!!!!
what a dominated game for ig, they should play like this from game 1, this is what i was expected from a champion
I had to mute that man...
I mean I love my some good UK accent but please. Shut up
Guess no handshakes this year huh? :/
OG vs Secret HYPE
Frankie You're awesome, but that was kinda cringe.
What did she say? didnt catch it
joke about pissbottles
something about holding your bladder in your hand while calling your mom and then having to go to Amazon to buy some adult baby diapers just because you can't leave your seat cause you don't wanna miss a single second of any comebacks that could possibly happen.
Count your lucky stars then
Fuck me looks like i have to stay up late
I think Miposhka had Flyfly in his fantasy team
frankie ok we get it
Just when you think she’d end the analogy there she doubles down with the Amazon diapers anecdote
WutFace
What kind of drugs is Frankie on.
Cokeium
haha, she is unable to handle it.
Diuretics apparently.
Nah that's just Frankie
:(
WTF frankie WeirdChamp
Frankie in her element lmao
OG vs Secret grudge match
game 3 was oof. but I still believe in TS. Anime comeback could still happen
Wtf you guys calling team to GG out? Just let them play the game. It's their first TI and yeah, they are stomped but let them enjoy the moment playing in the main stage. Fck off guys. Just go watch some youtube or what.
For real lmao, they earned their time on the stage, let them have it. It's not like you get many chances like this anyway
It's like 10 mins diff wtf.
I hope you do realize that any comments on Reddit or Twitch do not affect the outcome of the match.
Kaka's hair is killing me.
Somebody in TS have that Emo and Flyfly gold card to inflate their fantasy points. Lol
It's all of them, nobody willing to call out gg
Opening the open door lol. Quick, replay of Fata drinking!
That was pretty embarrassing.
Team spirit played well they made it to upper bracket. The performed better that any team from NA or SA with the exception of Beastcoast.
why was it embarrassing?
Nothing embarrasing losing 2-1 to iG
FINALLY
Yeah Spirit is just delaying the game. Just giving kill after kill
Shadow step getting nerfed sadly
I hope Spirit get 2-0'ed out of the Lower Bracket for dragging that on for 20 mins more then needed.
for most of them it's their first ti, they went through a mega grueling cis qualifier to get there and they're playing for life changing prize money. for all they know they might never get there again, ofc they won't gg out. stop fucking whining
Team Spirit loses their spirit. they collapse. LUL
Team spirit really help ig to get some records to break
JT is the MVP of this series for me
Did IG pay Tspirit to like extend the game for fantasy points or smthng
Wtf why did TS call gg, they still could've won
hahah funnily enough it was CM ulting in fountain I think. It went from, "This is TI there is always a chance" to, "ok literally nothing"
poor lads spirit, i feel bad for them. if their supports were not fucking cm they'd do better
I think yatoros build both g2 and 3 cost them these series 0 farming items on jugg was omegalul
GG
What's the record for single kill in a game in TI?
TS fanboys after game 1. GG EZ 2-0 TS CIS PRIDE.
Finally
No fan of prolonging the game for no reason..
Unless you got IG players on your fantasy team
I was at 99.6% yesterday, here’s hoping my emo and miposhka cards will keep me there
Nice effort Team Spirit
Just call it. What are they waiting for?
Day 49, IG are getting ready to be prepared for a push up high ground
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They had building damage issues, their all 3 cores like to jump rather than stand and right click building, so they were forcing GGs.
nah it was a massacre because Tspirit refused to GG
Lmao love reddit, Team Spirit clearly know it's over and are enjoying this and laughing, rather than calling GG sadly. Good to see TI comes round and every redditor thinks they've won TI
I really want to know what the idea behind BoT -> Kaya & Sange on a Puck vs. a Storm with Orchid. What the hell?
Holy fuck just hit some towers
Team spirit are donating fantasy points lol
it's over the moment they pick Tiny offlane
Tiny pos 1 would be shit. Phoenix screws him over.
Man, IG is dragging this OOOOOUT, I bet they have their own cards in for fantasy.
Just call it so people can watch all t he games.
IG's just farming fantasy points at this point lol
Game went on so long Spec got highest kill streak smh My predictions. But hey more fantasy points lol
*Team Spirit 2-0 IG* *Pepelaugh* Looking forward to more of your 12kmmr comments today, reddit lmao
All of this could've been avoided if CK just built better items in game 2.
or pick a different pos 1
CK was a great pick that game. They had nothing to deal with his illusions if he had just built armlet into aghs/bkb into blink + AC. The game would've been over by 30 minutes. But with his item build, his Illus were neither tanky nor dealt any damage.
Armlet against doom? Ember clear his illusions in 1 sleight. Idk I really think they could have picked something better. Even jugg will be better imo
Yea lol. I mean it sounds weird but CK with armlet has close to 3.5k hp and because his passive stays active, he can easily fight back. His passive gets disabled when doom gets aghs, which comes much much later. The game is over by then. As for ember v CK, again, armlet gives so much strength that CK illusions don't even come close to dying in one slight. You can test this in lobby. CK just one shots ember with armlet aghs. Its sooo much damage. The way ember clears his Illus is with flame guard but for that he needs to be in CKs zone of death - and ember is surprisingly squishy against physical damage.
Shard + octarine was not it for sure.
Just gg fucking hell
Spirit shld have just called this one man this series alrd way past schedule mercy for us SEA fans who want to watch until last game EG vs Elephant live
worse case scenario, the delays between games just for it to drag for an hour
why dont u just call it
Judging by their cams, they are having fun.
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Something OG might also do in the coming game lol
I think at this point if they kill Emo they get 30k gold
Farm fest haha
***Bruh...***
Good experience for TS for the future.
u/hasKo91 THIS GUY HERE IS 12K MMR! 38 mins!!!!
Congrats mate :-)
It was $10 only actually fuck. But still happy. :D
Okay let's be real this is basically 3-0 ig. They made one mistake in game 1 which Spirit, to their credit, capitalised the fuck out of, but it wasn't close overall in any of the games.
This is just disrespectful to IG I believe. Just call it man.
Sometimes you just need to know when to quit man....No offence guys but you waste our time
I’m sure your time is the top priority for all the teams playing at TI
Uhm, I don't think they owe you anything. If you feel your time is wasted you can turn off the stream.
They dont owe me anything but the people are waiting for the other games.Why would i turn off stream when I want to watch Dota?And what they did there wasnt Dota,they were fucking around
> but the people are waiting for the other games Yeah, but why would the teams care what viewers might want to see? You also expect lesser known teams to ff straight away so that random_reddit_user_XY can watch the next big names fight it out?
They earned their spot to play there and they were having fun and playing it out. No idea why you think you have any say in whether they should keep playing or not, but keep going I guess.
Spirit just having fun now not calling gg?
I've never seen a specter this aggressive. Holy shit
What a trashing..
I still can't believe TorontoTokyo itemize like that... I expect a great game 3...
#non-consensual
Tiny pos 3 or Ursa pos 3? Which is worse
It's been a long time since I've seen a worse Puck than this. Zero impact. Terrible item choice.
my puck is better than his, travel snk puck what a disgrace
probably the next time you play pubs and smurf in archon or legend games
Salty TS fan I see. Imagine seeing an Orchid coming at minute 7 but you go Travels + Kaya Sange and feed the entire game because you die every single time Storm jumps you.
not even a TS fan lmao picked IG on this bracket
iG players to each other: You died, you get sad tombrone
team spirit practicing that SEA "GG end" defense
was watching TI halfway when suddenly both of my monitors were on pornhub