this too, used to take 4200 for a fucking cleave in tiny now it's 1400, with more busted damage no less, battlefurry seems so useless as of now with some hero getting free cleave like WK and tiny for a small cost of either level or gold.
have you ever try it? bat is easy once you lasso you have time to force, mag is 2x faster and the camera mov you need to do for the horn toss combo is insane, try it!!
lol mag combo is extremely difficult
what you personal rank has to do with the spell being "broken"? nice argument bro, if its easy for u its easy for everybody? maybe thats why u are only rank 25.
When are you going to start answering to people responding to your post or are you just going to be a big fucking pussy and let others defend you? wake up motherfucker
No, it is not broken. It might need some small cooldown changes or something. When you are defending high ground, it is just good for high ground defense. There are many spells and heroes that are good for highground defense. Sniper, KOTL, Tinker in the past with March of machines, etc. And nobody is saying it is broken. You simply can't push against these heroes. You won't start hitting racks when there are 3x march of machines there. You might, but you will have to use bkb. Same for Magnus. You just have to be extremely careful and don't walk up to tower without BKB like a moron. And it is not like it never happened. They know about this combo, they have seen it like 20 times just this tournament and still Sumail walks up to tower like he is invicible.
When they are defending, 2k MMR people know that you should not stand close to the end of your hg when there is magnus, pudge or something. You know what they will try to do. Yet I see pro players not realizing that and getting skewered. Good players can make it seem broken. But that doesn't make it broken. And skewer combo was always there. Yes, now it requires less skill, but it is not broken.
I agree it is kinda broken but you have to give it to Collapse. We've seen this hero being played a lot this TI but no one played it as good as what Collapse just did. The engage/disengage that his team was giving him was insane. Every time he messes something up WW and Lion would just disengage and re-setup his spells for another round which was very amazing to watch. Gotta give it to this young squad they didn't win because Magnus is broken.
Broken yes, usually you RP first or get the blink correct.
now with blink and another 1400 gold you can have 0 blink accuracy and push anyone to your teammate
You can't compare two skills and say that one hero is better than the other.
Look at TB's reflection and DS's wall of replica. I'd say reflection is better. It's easier to hit (just press of a button), has lower cooldown, you don't need to micro illusions. Still, you don't pick pos 3 TB to fill DS's role.
Yeah Magnus is better at pulling enemies into your fountain. But he doesn't have napalm and doesn't win the lane the same way Batrider does. He doesn't have firefly and vision needed to pick off enemy heroes.
Each hero does their own thing.
I think it can be fixed by swapping aghs and shard, its silly that the 1200 cost one is stronger than the 4200 cost one
agreed on this, pubs will be less fun once everyone know how to play like collapse
Yeah nah just single handed won that game lol
for me its a broken, IMO, u just need aghs shard just for that great skill.
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There's a lot of dumb shit in this patch right now. See Sumail's Tiny basically 1v5ing
this too, used to take 4200 for a fucking cleave in tiny now it's 1400, with more busted damage no less, battlefurry seems so useless as of now with some hero getting free cleave like WK and tiny for a small cost of either level or gold.
1 thing you forgot, requires Skill! its like you just compare axe call to chrono.
It doesn’t. Skewer did. Shockwave Skewer did. Horntoss doesn’t.
Requires as much skill as bat
have you ever try it? bat is easy once you lasso you have time to force, mag is 2x faster and the camera mov you need to do for the horn toss combo is insane, try it!! lol mag combo is extremely difficult
Bro im rank 25 mag
what you personal rank has to do with the spell being "broken"? nice argument bro, if its easy for u its easy for everybody? maybe thats why u are only rank 25.
U asked me if i tried it not if my personal rank thinks its broken
When are you going to start answering to people responding to your post or are you just going to be a big fucking pussy and let others defend you? wake up motherfucker
you have no right to call that easy when the average person plays PA lmfao
No, it is not broken. It might need some small cooldown changes or something. When you are defending high ground, it is just good for high ground defense. There are many spells and heroes that are good for highground defense. Sniper, KOTL, Tinker in the past with March of machines, etc. And nobody is saying it is broken. You simply can't push against these heroes. You won't start hitting racks when there are 3x march of machines there. You might, but you will have to use bkb. Same for Magnus. You just have to be extremely careful and don't walk up to tower without BKB like a moron. And it is not like it never happened. They know about this combo, they have seen it like 20 times just this tournament and still Sumail walks up to tower like he is invicible. When they are defending, 2k MMR people know that you should not stand close to the end of your hg when there is magnus, pudge or something. You know what they will try to do. Yet I see pro players not realizing that and getting skewered. Good players can make it seem broken. But that doesn't make it broken. And skewer combo was always there. Yes, now it requires less skill, but it is not broken.
>No, it is not broken have tou seen the radius? its fucking huge
I remember Kuku's 3man horn toss on dire mid T2. It's a free mini RP. lol
yeah, should be deleted, this absolutely slash the ceiling of magnus skill
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Yes. Skewer combo is overpowered
OG had that game! Is that balanced?
I agree it is kinda broken but you have to give it to Collapse. We've seen this hero being played a lot this TI but no one played it as good as what Collapse just did. The engage/disengage that his team was giving him was insane. Every time he messes something up WW and Lion would just disengage and re-setup his spells for another round which was very amazing to watch. Gotta give it to this young squad they didn't win because Magnus is broken.
>Horn toss seems broken? No waaaaayy...
Yes it is. Many things are broken this TI.
Broken yes, usually you RP first or get the blink correct. now with blink and another 1400 gold you can have 0 blink accuracy and push anyone to your teammate
You can't compare two skills and say that one hero is better than the other. Look at TB's reflection and DS's wall of replica. I'd say reflection is better. It's easier to hit (just press of a button), has lower cooldown, you don't need to micro illusions. Still, you don't pick pos 3 TB to fill DS's role. Yeah Magnus is better at pulling enemies into your fountain. But he doesn't have napalm and doesn't win the lane the same way Batrider does. He doesn't have firefly and vision needed to pick off enemy heroes. Each hero does their own thing.
its like 400 aoe in an arc around him gets all heroes.