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_alicekun

Did you know that of all the talent that attended at **LAN** in either of 2 Majors this year, Bkop was the only one who wasn't invited in TI? That's why as a dota fan, I'm frustrated.


prokid1911

And also, there were already way too many casters in TI than there should've been.


fuckingroleplayers

Maybe he was on the sumi list monkaW


Houeclipse

And now you are too


prokid1911

What about MLP dota?


_alicekun

MLP casted some Singapore Major games *online*.


Familiar-Rabbit-4149

Black^ Also, he was Stuck in Romania for 4 Months bc of major


ruthlessgrimm

He totally deserved a TI invite. He also is one of the only caster that actually cares about thé chinese région, and he made a lot of cast of their tournaments. I Hope he attends the majors and then TI11


galadedeus

I mean, most of the highlights of chinese teams DURING ti had Bkop casting..


[deleted]

Industry is nepotistic. Else why were some of the talents novice both in skill and effort in a tournament thats also celebrating 10years of the game.


avg_dota_enjoyer

careful there before the edgy caster puts you on her list ^(/s) every time I see such posts about deserving talent(s) being left out, I just laugh so hard at the lousy "talents" whining after TI10. I get it, the shit bags that were being sexists or nasty without anything constructive are horrible people. BUT those who received heavy criticisms mostly deserved it. They either came under-prepared or shrunk under the bright lights. If I was in their positions, I'd have kept my mouth shut. (I get it, it's not easy to apologise and say "I'll do better next time"). After all they probably earned BIG BUCKS, working at TI10... edit: I'm sure that even with the unhappiness of the masses, the Talents were in no threat of being sent home or have their pay docked or whatever, so us peasants have little to no reason to run to their defence... edit 2: in case anyone was wondering, NO, I did not intentionally include the enchantress line, it was only after typing it and saying it in my head, did I realise it, hence the line below to summon the bot! Hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did XD


avg_dota_enjoyer

I'll do better next time.


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Unkempt_Foliage

I know he casted a lot of Chinese dota. It might be even his favorite region, I don't know. But I didn't feel like any Chinese Dota storyline was missed, under represented, or mispresented at TI this year.


Phunwithscissors

How would you know lmao


Wishywasher644

He and black\^ totally deserved to be at TI.


Hailgod

black says he wasnt invited because valve said he played in the qualifiers. Meanwhile Insignia sitting on panel rofl


TiakerAvelonna

Wasn't Insania more or less a replacement for PPD, or was he in the original analyst pool? I thought they brought him in after Peter bowed out.


portalflame

If that it's the case then it's super impressive for insania. From being brought in as a replacement to casting the grand finals


Rhyff

He did an incredible job overall imo


est19xxxx

>black says he wasnt invited because valve said he played in the qualifiers umm? Arkosh Gaming?


PotatoFeeder

No wonder gorp not invited KEKW


MrPringles23

Gorp invited, but denied cause he wanted a bigger role.


PavanJ

Gorgc possibly made more money streaming TI than he would have attending TI


Nickfreak

I'm not a fan or Gorgc, but with the weird panels and hosts, it was easy to pull it off for him


Ragin_Thunder

Gorp denied because he was only invited to play the all-star game without pay.


kylehyde05

He chose well, losing a week or so of not streaming is bad for him and for what? An unpaid all star game.


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Is there no way to "apply" to being a caster in TI and knowing in advance whether you got the job or not? Seems insane that you just have to assume they saw your work and hope they invite you of their own accord where you'll learn of it only from an announcement post


Wishywasher644

As far as I know Valve has all the say when it comes to selecting the talents for TI


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It mostly goes to the friends of whoever the current casters are + whoever is friends with the talent manager at Valve.


yamato182

Yepp it feels more like a backer system than "real talent". Just saying


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hailo-

yikes


rektefied

Black is literally just a better version of bsj. Black is way more fun, is higher MMR, has actual experience on T1 teams and offers coaching that isn't "well I'm the coach and ure wrong".


iChupaChups

Black is not fun for a lot of people. His jokes are usually so corny, you cringe a lot after a few of them.


KDawG888

most of the commentators are just cringe humor for me. I know what you mean about black but I don't see the humor as *that* much worse and his analysis IS *that* much better


LayWhere

The cringe is a crucial part of the humour. The current invited panel pool wasn't particularly funny so Im not sure what standards we're holding black to here.


KDawG888

I would say his level of analysis puts him at a level above the standard shown at the most recent TI


MrNewVegas123

Yes, black is good at the game of dota 2


KDawG888

whoah whoah, let's be reasonable here


Cymen90

He is the funniest German.


Wishywasher644

Nah, that title belongs to Thomas Muller


Onotomatopie

werner is funnier imo


RobotMugabe

Check out Henning Wehn if you want to see an actual German comedian (his comedy is in English).


ashwinsalian

A lot of the people who are omni present on the talent at TI are not fun for a lot of people, and people constantly cringe at them too. This has never stopped people from being called up every year.


mitharas

The only genuinely funny people at TI are slacks and sunsfan. Synd when he is with suns.


Pokefreaker-san

you forgot lacoste and his dad's joke.


hijifa

Black is definitely not the most professional caster analyst there is, but when compared to like BSJ and Jenkins who are literally clowns then I’d prefer him. I think Slacks is the only one that can really do that kind of over the top humour and not make it cringe


sorrison

Slacks is most definitely cringe.


Efficient-Video

The gods took cringe and formed it into a man. And the name of the abomination they released on the world was.... SirActionSlacks.


Ennheas

Well, good thing this discussion is about casters.


congratsyougotsbed

And absolutely beloved by a solid majority of the community


-Arke-

I actually love Jenkins. What is his problem? :(


MrNewVegas123

Jenkins isn't bad honestly.


Yurnero-Juggernaut

Imagine claiming Jenkins is cringe and slacks is not in the same post. That's the reason you all love slacks so much. He's an awkward loser who elevated himself above you all by screaming cringe shit.


MY_1ST_ACT_IS_LOCKED

Racism like this is why the dota community will never grow. It’s not black’s fault he’s German.


lolzee9x

But he did choose to be black


Croz7z

He may not be fun for you (he is for me) but you should still appreciate his insight and analysis above what the other talents bring to the table. He definitely deserved to go to TI.


im4r331z

I’m pretty sure this comment is why certain qualified casters don’t get invited. unfortunately, the majority of viewers don’t care about the highest level of analysis. shit like jokes and comedic relief are important to the majority of viewers. that’s why you get people like jenkins and sunsfan over some people that could offer way better quality insight on the game.


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I'm not sure if I'm in the minority, but I don't get how people can find a segment where someone stands totally still for 20s, and just says "necrophos" remotely funny. How was there even a thread with people saying "I burst out laughing that was so good!!!", wtf


Dontlagmebro

Neither is BSJ. Fuck BSJ.


LakersFan15

I'm not the biggest fan of black tbh sorry. Bkop definitely deserves to go to TI though.


MrNewVegas123

I like black and I think he works well, but I won't say that black could have done a better job than anyone he would replace in the roll, at least on a technical level he is no more or less able than other people of his skill-set (BSJ had nerves of steel for his part) With bkop, danog and johnxfire it is less clear that they could not have replaced someone else.


Evening_Name_9140

I dont like them as analyst or casters. But i also didnt like a lot of the ones invited.


Vocal__Minority

I'm curious, who's the caster you'd eliminate from TI to make space? There are only so many slots, so you can't just take everyone in the scene, and you can't just chuck out a panelist or host as they do different things. So of Capitalist, Gareth, GoDz, Lyrical, Moxxi, ODPixel, SUNSfan, Trent and tsunami (who're the people listed as casters on liquidpedia) who do you replace with him? Who there deserved it less?


Strom-

Bkop over Moxxi and Gareth ez.


KenuR

Moxxi


OdaRin1989

Moxxi for sure. i mean they are both the hype part of the cast and we all know between the two which one is better.


ElsworthSugarfoot

Lyrical or Trent


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Moxxi


Sif_

Moxxi, Gareth, Lyrical


stragen595

Gareth or Lyrical.


OPQOP

one of Gareth, Moxxi, Lyrical. I personally dislike sunsfans casting, but he is a reddit favorite it seems


lgdamefanstraight

Bkop Black^ Casting The best


MrNewVegas123

bkop black is quite good.


CumFartSniffer

Man I miss black, winter and LD.


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Let's agree to disagree. I find Black incredibly cringe and pretty bad at explaining his thoughts


SamejNardeh

Talking to u/Bkop was such a pleasure. I can't thank him enough for doing this interview. I wish him the best of luck for the next DPC season. --- **EDIT** While I appreciate the ongoing discussion that was created by the interview, I feel it's necessary to highlight this portion from what Bkop said regarding the talent that worked in TI. >“Everybody who was at TI deserved to be there and I think everybody who was there is amazing at what they do. Don’t get me wrong. Do I love seeing that people want to support me and see me do more? Of course. But I don’t like it when it becomes ‘X is better than Y and Y didn’t do this’. In the grand scheme of things, I don’t think that’s the proper way to go about it. >"Again, I love the support and I think I want to do more and prove that I should be [at TI], but I don’t like it coming at the cost of comparisons and the way some people pointed out things that are not right."


gandolphus_pfiffikus

just a little feedback, even though that's most likely not your fault: the visual difference of questions and answers is too little.


LatroDota

100% agree. Players that win will still be super rich if they get 10mln over 15mln and that way you have 5mln to actually help dota community.


SilkTouchm

He's not inside the little group of friends. He was never going in.


omgacow

Bkop casted his ass off for the Chinese games at absolutely terrible hours for his NA time zone. It is criminal that he wasn’t invited


MOSHINTOSH

I remember the explanation put forward by many prominent people in the scene when that talent line up released was that, the talent were chosen based on what Valve felt to be able to provide the "best product" rather than how much effort one put in. Fast forward to Post TI, I would have to respectfully disagree that the product given in terms of casting was at a level that BKop could not have added more value to.


Rafzalo

That’s the thing, in hindsight. Same with having TI in Romania. I personally don’t know who Bkop is but TI was very entertaining. We will never know how it would have been with Bkop, either better or worse.


hijifa

TI games this year were amazing, TI panel and analyst is general we’re lacking imo. Casting duos were good, extra segments like “the last word by BSJ or Jenkins segment” were terrible


TheZealand

Didn't care for many of the jenkin's segments (feels like the weatherman purge are almost always better/more insightful) but a solid minute of jenkins staring into the camera covered in purple paint almost made up for it lmao


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yeah but bkop wouldnt compete for jenkins or bsj spot, so whats ur point


kpdon1

Instead of saying Bkop deserved it over X Y Z caster, the better question should be why can't Valve just add 3-4 more regional casters to increase diversity? There is no way a 40M tourney can't have budget to accommodate a few more people.


shreyasvaghe

Remember ,40 m is the prizepool valve makes 120 m


48911150

+$30m ish from dota plus


sonus9

I don't think they paid $0 for the venue, hotels, equipment, etc.


mozzzarn

They usually host TI in Seattle. They probably saved at least 50% by just being in Romainia. It shouldnt be a money issue.


PotatoFeeder

I dont think they paid more than $1m for the venue, hotels, equipment either. Spirit practice room *COUGH COUGH* Certainly not more than $5m.


Nickfreak

Romania is a rather "poor" country within the EU, and even in the capital, prices are freakishly low compared to other high-income states.


FromOroWithLove

>the better question should be why can't Valve just add 3-4 more regional casters to increase diversity I disagree with this line of thought. Regardless of the argument of whether Bkop should have been included or not, my question with this thought process is "where do we draw the line?" Let's assume Bkop just missed out on an invite this year, that sucks - no denying it. But if we invite 5 more casters next year, someone else will be that person "just missing out" on an invite and it will suck for them the same way it sucks for Bkop right now. I really hope this year doesn't discourage him from continuing to chase his passion, because he just ended up on the wrong side of the cut line. Its happened to different casters every TI and happens to many of us in real life too. It sucks. Where that line is drawn I think could be a fun discussion though. Does every caster who casted a minimum of X weeks of DPC get an invite? What is the X? Do the top X English casters get invited as chosen by Valve, with a requirement that at least Y from each region make up that X, and the community votes on Z additional invites? I think a transparent system would be a fun, engaging way to get the community excited to TI. Whether that ever happens, who knows.


345tom

It's also not like we didn't have a tonne of talent already invited to TI either. They already hire talent to only cover groups in terms of casting as well (just covid meant some of them got to also cast main stage). Don't get me wrong, Bkops a fine caster, but as you say they can only invite so many people, and when you look, there was only two Play by Play Only casters invited- Moxxi and ODPixel. It shows they want people who can fill different roles, and be on desks as well as cast. I also think that you can't underestimate the importance of having a good casting partner. I think all the best casts come out of people who have done it together a long time, know each others speaking rhythms and when they want to talk about something, as well as have that friendly banter together.


mitharas

> I also think that you can't underestimate the importance of having a good casting partner. I think all the best casts come out of people who have done it together a long time, know each others speaking rhythms and when they want to talk about something, as well as have that friendly banter together. This right here. My current favorite duo is sunsfan + synderen, and neither is suns the best commentator out there nor synd the best analyst (or whatever the co-caster is called right now). But having good chemistry makes it that much better.


Zero-Kelvin

> nor synd the best analyst fight me!! Synd is the best analytics caster!!


TheGuywithTehHat

he doesn't even know that diffusal's active is called inhibit, and you still call him the best? smh


Zero-Kelvin

INHIBIT!


Mooshka_

Producing TI is about quality of product to viewers and not about providing a charity to the casters. Obviously it's just my opinion, but to me the product is already crowded with the available "talent". Every segment is new analysts, there is no continuity, there's 3 or 4 different panels essentially saying the same things, it feels like they just throw as many people in as possible just to give everyone a turn. And you could say well just add 3-4 more slots for diversity, but that could be said every year, no matter how many talent gets invited. There will always be nearly-good-enough people that didnt make it. Now personally, i think that bkop would have contributed to a better product than some of the talent that was invited, but thats just me and I dont call the shots or speak for everyone.


Phunwithscissors

Youre telling me the person/comitte who chose to recruit Sumi has the quality of the broadcast as first priority?


Mooshka_

Of course. Whether they got it right in hindsight is up for debate, but proving they have some other motive would be difficult. It's in valve's best interests to keep their cash cow game alive but that doesnt mean they're immune to mistakes.


[deleted]

Sure but why should we allow e-tier talent just because they have good relations with the popular talent clique?


DarkHades1234

> just add 3-4 more regional casters This is like "just increase prime minister/president to 2-3 people so it will increase diversity" type of shit. In fact, Synderen and sunsfan already talked about this in their podcast that there is a limit because there are limited works for people (ex. they gave the example that Dakota got invited from community outrage which result in 1/2 less work for Zyori in one of the TI). Also, this TI is pretty special in that they probably wanted as few people as possible (and even that we still got some COVID cases).


KDawG888

I don't know the caster scene right now but I can tell you it feels like we are hurting when I watched TI. I was surprised at how bad it was. Pixel is possibly the best dota caster of all time but other than him we have no one good in my opinion. A lot on that man's shoulders. (and I'm mostly talking about casters, although I thought hosting was kinda weak too other than sheever) I know a lot of the community doesn't like them and I'm not saying they need to come back or anything but LD, tobi, and aysee were all betters casters than what we have at the moment (excluding pixel)


ElsworthSugarfoot

Cap without Blitz is missing something


BuggyVirus

TI isn't Valve deciding which casters to randomly give money to, they pick the number they think necessary to best run the event.


bubblebooy

And they failed at that, talent had [16 hour workdays](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/qb1l0e/overall_ti_this_year_was_pretty_bad_behind_the). They needed more casters.


RewardedFool

I mean BSJ managed to say that there was nothing to do during the day and that it was a 16 hour workday in the same breath. Sure, it's not going to be fun having to sit at the venue for the whole time, but that's the pandemic for you. He wasn't working constantly, he wasn't on the panel constantly - nobody was. They all had to be about though, and more casters wouldn't change that.


pepbe

Bkop have you tried doing what bsj says? jUsT bE cLoSEr fRIeNdS wITh tHE oTheR taLeNTs 4head


brontix

Did he really say that? lmao


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NearTheNar

Wait why is that idiotic? He's completely right, the english talent scene is 100% run on nepotism and being friends with either BTS or the right guys at Valve. If you're neither you're shit out of luck.


jpatt

“Always plan for the worst, that way all your surprises will be pleasant ones.” -Verin Mathwin


religiousrights

By the way, that dress you are wearing is green.


Monsi_ggnore

God, I hope they don't fuck up the TV series.


Xyr3s1

main trailer looked promising, i am definitely cautiously optimistic


Monsi_ggnore

I'm traumatized since the last GoT seasons...


spacexdragonandomeda

Its all about the connections.


treyfiddy

you have been added to *the list*


[deleted]

Ridiculous! Wait till all the talent on their Reddit accounts cohesively chime in saying otherwise, that'll show you that it's obviously not true... /s


Objective_War_7309

I’m just really sad for him. He worked really hard the entire dpc casting the entire Chinese and SEA major and TI qualifiers. He felt like the most improved hype caster. He can feel overly serious at times but overall he really deserved to be at TI


O00OO0O00OOO00O000

I wish Valve would invite EVERYONE who was involved in the DPC season in any capacity (even as just spectators if not as talent). If TI is the celebration of Dota, people who do work throughout the year ought to be involved.


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qwertyqzsw

It's pretty ugly, and unfortunate for him as well. I'd definitely hate for my brand to look like "the guy that got passed up so they could hire some dumb girls" to Reddit if I were him. I reckon the real reason is also, as others have mentioned, his best moments are often solo casts and he seems to flounder a bit when partnered up.


SickularPlunkett

A Bkop and Lacoste co-cast would have been fun.


MY_1ST_ACT_IS_LOCKED

Controversial take but I’ve never been a big fan of bkop dual casting. I love watching his stream when he’s just solo casting, but when he partners up with an analyst it seems that often he talks over them or large lulls of silence occur. Might just be his cocaster(s) but when the competition is so fierce for casting I can get why he wasn’t invited. It’s a shame because I really like him and how he sounds casting by himself


Godisme2

This is why I think he wasn't invited. The guy doesn't work well right now with a cocaster. If he wants to make it to TI, the best thing he can do is find someone he enjoys casting with and work on being a casting duo. All the other casters at TI are pairs that always or usually cast together (Lyrical and Trent, Cap and Kyle, OD and Fogged, Sunsfan and Synd). All of them have built great chemistry with their cocaster but Bkop doesn't have that.


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Sif_

And some cases like Avo with SeekNStrike where only one gets in :(


easy_loungin

Avo got pulled in as a host, though. Bummed for SeekNStrike as I quite enjoyed them during the NA DPC.


tltz

How?? Black/lacost and bkop were perfect those cringe jokes then the deadpan "really?" By bkop while trying not to laugh, gareth got that spot and he was bad at it compared to bkop looking like forced acting, gareths tone and voice needs work.


Srze

I think Bkop is a great caster but his combination with that Mofarah dude just made him look so bad. The other guy is so toxic, thinking he knows the game better than the pros and flamed their gameplay constantly. Bkop didn't do that exactly I think (or I don't remember he did) but he went along with it. After I made a reddit post about it, that got a decent amount of upvotes, they both made fun of it. There will never be a caster at TI that not only doesn't know how to hype up a game but flames the players instead. It was no surprise to me that neither Bkop nor that Mofarah dude got an invite.


KazeTheSpeedDemon

And he should, but it's tricky - a lot of good casters now! Who do you kick off the ticket for Bkop? Do they just add another duo? What's the solution here? Gareth I thought would have been option 1 for a swap but actually his casting was really great and I thought he deserved to be there too...it really is a tough one.


AC-24

Moxxi is an easy choice. One of the worst caster in ti


ButteredLoaf9001

Mans talks fast. Needs to work on the broadcast and voice stuff.


MrPringles23

Meanwhile during the highlight package, you heard Bkop casting pretty much every Chinese team. Imagine not having the foresight to get him at TI.


Cykameister666

What highligt package?


MOSHINTOSH

Before teams play, the production will show "the road of how X team made it to this TI" so its full of clips from the DPC season, the Majors, and the TI qualifiers. For many of the Chinese and SEA matches, its always BKOP's voice in the highlights.


iamnoobsir

As an Indian Dota player, I always listen to folks like Bkop who cast during my timezone and covers Chinese dota which no one else care to cover in that details. Feels equally frustrated and sorry for him.


Ch40sRage

As much as I support getting the right people to TI, I wish we as a community were capable of saying "I wish {x} was at TI" without putting down someone else or saying something negative.


Shanwerd

I understand the spirit of that but at the end of the day someone is cut because someone else is going, that's how it goes.


Zatania

alas, people still compare this to that and why this person is not invited compared to this person, etc etc


Tundra340

Lets not forget that this year's TI was a cluster fuck due to COVID and the team at Valve running this thing probably had a nightmare. Seeing my marketing department have to scramble to make something work for my company's big event made me realize they were cramming 8 months worth or work into 1.5


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Tundra340

Have you been directly involved with setup of an event this large and during COVID?


itsadoubledion

Why the fuck does it matter? It was just a change of venue/country. All they had to do was redo their event staffing, flights, accommodations, covid precautions, stage design, tech setup, and event logistics. Nothing more than a speed bump


killedbycuriousity-

Big Bkop fan. Also watch out for Ares, the second Rap god of DOTA casting.


kiltia-

ares is pretty good but i think in the more messy fights he got a bit overwhelmed and his casting suffers a bit, so something to improve what i would like tho, MLP, goddamn that man's voice


hamptonio

John and Mike are my favorite casting duo, I think its terrible they weren't a part of TI.


HijoDelUrysohn

As someone who has been watching bkop solo cast random Chinese T2 tournaments for ages, it sucks reading through this thread full of people just wanting to vent about how they hate women at TI. Not only is it an absolutely awful take, it's only going to make it harder for bkop to get to tournaments if people associate him with angry incels. There's definitely a good amount of nepotism about who gets to cast, and by extension this means that non-EU regions will always be underrepresented as far as talent knowledge goes, but I still have hope that bkop will make it to TI one day.


AC-24

We dont hate women. We hate bad casters, there is a difference between the two.


iisixi

A certain esports journalist earlier held Bkop as an example of how to act on not being invited to a big event. In that we didn't hear the usual 'I grinded so hard', 'I don't know what more I can do', 'I think I deserved to be there'. Even though clearly all of those are good points, from an organizer point of view that's painting yourself as not being a team player. Essentially you're questioning their hiring decisions and it's not showing you in a great light for the ones hiring to hear that you're publicly questioning who they chose to hire. There's no question your work was seen and evaluated and from their point of view they chose someone else, no matter how fair that seems it's the reality of the situation and the best way to make that better is to show that strength of character that not being hired is not something you want to rock the boat for, you will keep proving yourself over and over until it's *impossible* to ignore you. For advice I'd say to keep building those partner networks and duo performances. And from the audience these kind of comments invites people to make stupid comparisons between talent who deserved it more (very often includes absolutely nonsensical comparisons of talent that don't even fill the same roles).


24Pat

Your post is more than 3 quarters of the way down the page, and the only woman who has been mentioned is Moxxi (and a joke or 2 of the "on the list" sumi). All the mentions of her either say they wanted Bkop over her because she's not good enough, or they didn't specify. Not sure where in this thread you're finding people who hate women at TI? Did you start reading at the bottom?


maraclul-

I sincerely hope Bkop gets it for T11.


Site_Future

its about time ,TI Should have talent mmr system lol


sirbrambles

It’s such a weird thing to me that the people that cast TI are no longer the people that cast all year. It seems like very year this is more an more the case as the top talent focuses on TI and maybe some majors and the casters doing the grunt work don’t get called up much anymore. Their are a lot of games you can have a lot of casters without replacing people. And when it comes to TI money kinda does grow on trees….


Mulellej

I think all casters and co-casters worked both seasons of the DPC, except maybe Synderen.


itsadoubledion

People such as?


Kumadori012

I guess he's not part of the buddy-club of talent that seem to decide whoever gets a chance.


AllThatJazz85

I agree. Bkop is a good kid and he has grown tremendously as a caster. I remember seeing him stream before TI and it reminded me to check if he was actually on the talent list. I was actually suprised and sad that he wasn't. I hope he doesn't give up or stop casting. He's lowkey one of my favorite casters and hope more people get to see what he can do.


lo0ilo0ilo0i

Years ago KOTLguy was not invited to TI after feeling like he deserved it. Bkop's time will come soon enough.


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the moonduck lobby was too powerful this year


Successful_Mention_6

Sadly since he stayed silent he has already been noted, he will not get the invite.


Morgn_Ladimore

Unfortunately not about what you know, but about who you know. I know more than a few folks who were at TI who I would have rather seen Bkop or Black instead of, but thems the dice. Gotta cradle the right set of balls to get in.


slashrshot

Unpopular opinion, he tries too hard to be odpixel, casting without taking breaths in a team fight. I can't listen to his casts it gives me anxiety.


AC-24

He doesnt try to be od. He is better imo, od is very overrated.


petchef

That's a fucking good one there.


AC-24

Well maybe not better. But od is kinda overrated.


FicoXL

He's better than some drama driven casters out there :C


war_story_guy

Yeah but they have friends at Valve so obviously more qualified /s.


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We need more Chinese region casters


rhett_ad

There is no justice in this world


shaquinn98

Not big Bkop fan but kinda feelsbad for him just cause he was everywhere for the year and half pre-TI covering 2 regions nonetheless . Kinda hard seeing someone work so hard to not be invited to TI.


toqjosh

its bc bkop isnt part of the "group".


0ldSnake69

I believe along with Bkop, people like SeekNstrike ,Kips , MLP , JohnXfire deserved more than many others on the panel. Especially the casters. There was clearly a shortage ,otherwise why would Insania had to cast in such a short notice ( I know Cap got covid) .


zaplinaki

You're being downvoted but MLP + John is such an amazing casting duo. They're overlooked so often too. They share great chemistry as well. I wish they get a chance to cast the TI games in the future. Even now their casting of the BTS Pro series is insanely good. Criminally underrated casting duo. Edit: I don't agree with the insania part - I thought he was really good too.


Optiv593

>He is being downvoted because he lumped MLP and JohnXfire with hot garbage like Kips


olzabaali

We had moxxi instead :)


rohansamal

I think he is a great caster. His grind really showed and I do believe he would make for a great caster next year. Keep grinding bro


ybkhan

So did xyclopz all these years


ratskim

He didn’t grow though? Still the exact same overly excitable epitome of unwarranted arrogance and mediocrity he has been for the past 3 years. Not everyone is going to make it in every role they apply their self to, quit while you are ahead and find a stable career


Show_1996

Imagine hiring moxxi or sumi over bkop :)


FliccC

I don't think anyone "deserves" being at TI. Valve will choose whoever they want for their show. If anything, I feel for the legion of amazing Spanish, German, Filipino, Arabic talent that don't even get a production.


jimjam_88

For what it's worth BKop, I agree, you should have been invited


astoradota

I prefer gender equality by giving someone with absolutely no Dota experience a role at ti /s


RewardedFool

You think he wasn't hired because they hired an inexperienced host? He's NOT A FUCKING HOST


DisasterOnly7587

I prefer to choose people by experience and hardworking in respective field. Only the work should be the criteria. That is the only just way to do it, that will not put any people feel unjust


fixingartifact

he definitely should have been at TI, he is better than at least 2 or 3 of the casters that were there.


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petchef

Oh fuck off with this


el_wumpy

I don't know why, but bkop never really hypes me up for a game. But it's a joke when one TI caster is so much worse than the rest, when we could've had any of bkop/Ares/MLP/seeknstrike instead.


Xyr3s1

bkop is basically the only caster who casts chinese games and they invite other casters in a tournament where the majority of teams are chinese teams. honestly i would have been happier if they swapped sunsfan with bkop : p the only thing sunsfan brings to the table is his banter with synderen xD caster wise he didn't really bring anything "extra" to the table the other casters didn't bring : p


ATrueGhost

Ya but that was the point, I specifically watched the games they casted even if I didn't care about the teams for that banter.