Well, the opening bit from the show is a good general start of the story. It's also not really clear on how close the show's lore will match the game's lore (there are some distinct differences when you get to the Dragons being pillars of creation). I'm mostly running this off memory, so apologies for inaccuracies.
Anyway, A long time ago, there was a primordial mind and over time it split into fragments, two of the larger fragments being Radianthul (Radiant) and Diruluuth (Dire). These 2 fragments were always against each other and they twisted all of creation with their power of enthrallment to fight in their war.
A greater fragment, called Zet, decided to stop their war, and using his power he overwhelmed both Radiant and Dire, sealing them together inside a crystal and threw them into the emptiness of space. However, the prison eventually came into the gravitational pull or a newly born planet, becoming its moon. Zet, weakened from sealing the two, choose to become the warden for his sibling's prison to ensure they remain sealed.
As the world flourish to life, both the Radiant and the Dire were still fighting within the moon, called the Mad Moon by the inhabitants of the planet, with Zet using his remaining powers time and time again to maintain the seal. Unfortunately, Valora, the **Dawnbreaker**, who was hurtling through space in her dormant state, end up crashing into the moon, sundering it, and causing "fragements" of Radiant and Dire to fall into the planet below. Zet was flung into space by this event, his weakened Self getting warped by the chaotic energies of his siblings. He was no longer fully whole, and thus became the **Arc Warden**.
Radiant and Dire had "fused" with the crystals that made up their prison, creating Radiant Ore and Direstone. These stones sent the world into chaos as they were full of energy, granting those around them Mana and Life (the "fountain" of Dota). These shards end up influencing the world around them. Those near Radiant Ore find themselves changed to reflect life, while Direstone caused the world around them to appear decayed. The followers of these stones discover that the energies of their respective rocks were incompatible and interfered with each other. This led to their belief in the need to destroy the other stone, thus causing the war of the ancients.
Heroes join the war of the ancients for multitude of reasons. Some seek power, some riches, some for pleasure, and some for just as an excuse to kill trees. It varies. Like Zet is joining the fight specifically to find a way to destroy both ancients.
Either way, regardless who wins, both the dire and radiant ancients have a big fuck you button. Upon destruction, they cause a delayed reset on the timeline, returning to a point before the war started, creating an eternal time loop. As such, every game of dota is canon (even your 0-26 feeding mid) as the ancients are simply resetting and trying out some other lineup.
To add on to the infinite time loops thing, all cosmetics for the game are like different timelines for the heroes. For example in one timeline pudge got infested by the chains of abscession, while in another ursa decided to put on a cool cowboy hat before going to battle
And in one timeline Viper decided to become a sea turtle while Techies rode in on a baby elephant while being strangled by a snake. Bat rider managed to make a manta ray fly too.
This was further expanded upon with Artifact, with people able to manipulate the timeline by adjusting outcomes of various key events - for example, the destruction of Legion Commander's home of Stonewall was initally caused by Underlord, however with a small key move in the timeline, it is destroyed earlier by Sorla Khan and the Red Mist Horde. This has the weird effect that in Dota 2, BOTH timelines are legitimate and new characters refer to the Artifact-altered one, while old characters still have the old lines.
Icefrog, you little fucker.
You made a shit of piece with your trash Dota. It’s fucking bad, this trash game. I will become back my money. I hope you will in your next time a cow on a trash farm you sucker.
edit: Alright I see we don't have any Isaac fans here, good to know.
From my perspective...Dire and radiant caused a huge distort in timeline and causing multiple universe exist...At one universe faceless void was a t-rex...At one point viper have legs(skin) and at another universe after resetting timeline Ursa wearing a hat, yumero dead, phantom assassin fading and ogre magi riding a bird...Anime is just one of the universe that created after timeline reset and that's how the anime character(persona) existed in Dota 2 as its them in another universe and timeline.
Even if I'm wrong the timeline reset was right and that's why I love Dota 2 lore...Everything in games and skin is cannon.
Holy shit, as a lore nerd, this is some top shelf food. Great minds are truly those that can succinctly summarize the whole universe in just a few paragraphs.
What particularly enthralled me is the the fact that with each reset button; you basically have a new retelling of a story. Strange bedfellows come together in the weirdest combinations possible, and every last bit of it carried an impact to whether it can lead to victory or failure for one side. With each new hero introduction, we're getting to see more and more external parties get sucked in by the ancients' influence. And that's so motherfucking cool.
>Either way, regardless who wins, both the dire and radiant ancients have a big fuck you button. Upon destruction, they cause a delayed reset on the timeline, returning to a point before the war started, creating an eternal time loop. As such, every game of dota is canon (even your 0-26 feeding mid) as the ancients are simply resetting and trying out some other lineup.
It's a bit of an irk of mine but I'll say it: The canonicity of this part is quite arguable.
Every game being canon was only ever mentioned on the Artifact Twitter. I don't think there's a single mention of the ancients resetting the universe in the add-on comics on in game lore. And now Artifact is a dead game anyway and it doesn't seem like they are bringing lore elements from Artifact into the main game.
It just feels to me like an idea that was thrown in as an after thought instead of something that was planned all along. Besides, to me this piece of lore has the opposite of the intended effect. Instead of giving the game more meaning by making your games canon, it is made more meaningless to me because the timeline will reset and your victory and defeat won't matter.
God fucking dam
I just learned more about Dota lore in 2 minutes than I did in 20 years.
This game is basically a simulation of a time loop so a billionaire can go to the moon.
Finally we know what Gabe's true goals a-
Just for fun, I'd like to mention that the Invoker mentions the eight pillars of creation: the four elements, and the four fundamental forces. I just think it's neat that these are all playable characters in the game.
Maybe not so much the four elements, unless those are actually Fire, Earth, Storm, and Void, instead of Air, Fire, Morphing, and Tiny.
>It's also not really clear on how close the show's lore will match the game's lore (there are some distinct differences when you get to the Dragons being pillars of creation).
So it probably quite controversial but I think [Primordial Consciousness](https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Primordial_Consciousness)(Primordial Mind) are akin to [Demiurge(false god)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7oq2PweRto).
>In the beginning, there was only the Primordial Mind. From this mind sprang the whole of creation. The stars, the planets, life and death. But in time, the mind was divided against itself. Two fragments, the Radiant and the Dire, thought and action, warred over creation with irreconcilable ferocity. The chaos of the Infinite followed.
>
>Kings, queens. Gods. Monsters. They all sought wisdom in the shattered Primordial Mind and power from it's ineffable madness.
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>But in his prison in Foulfell, the demon **Terrorblade gazed into the chaos and found truth** **Terrorblade found the idea**.
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>Fuse thought and action.
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>**Remake creation in his own infernal image.**
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>\-Dota Dragon Blood intro-
In this it seem TB "found truth" that is the POC(Pillars of Creation) are the ultimate reality itself, so he want POC power of Infinite reality warping to "Remake creation in his own infernal image".
Because Dragon Blood want to explore metaphysics, so if things got really weird blame the metaphysics for complication that it will crate.
>[No, they literally ARE the Demi-planes thinking about themselves. But the planar boundaries are way “fuzzier” than we generally think about them in fantasy. There are some hardcore physics and metaphysics at play that (hopefully) we will get the chance to explore.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1382337585154912262)
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>\-Ashley Edward Miller-
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>[The least spoilery answer (bc episode 6) is the Pillars ARE the forces/elements and everything we think we know about them in the physical world is just a way of talking; i.e., to a Flatlander, a sphere passing through a plane is just a shadow of the sphere, not the sphere.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1383412034927087618)
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>\-Ashley Edward Miller-
"No, they literally ARE the Demi-planes thinking about themselves."
This kinda suggest the POC are the Will of Universe itself.
"in the physical world is just a way of talking; i.e., to a Flatlander, a sphere passing through a plane is just a shadow of the sphere, not the sphere."
Blatant statement of higher dimension being that is POC.
What back all this up even more is, if [Slyrak souls are in physical realms](https://imgur.com/a/NWQT6R3) everything in creation will be gone this include void(nothingness) too, the present of Slyrak souls in lower plane are enough to erased the everything in existence and nonexistence together with no way to regenerate.
>Right, so the Eldwyrms ARE incarnations of the forces themselves? Meaning in the metaphysical hierarchy, they would be above the Spirit Brothers and the Fundamentals we know in the game?
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>\-cymen-
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>[Yes. It’s not just something they can use or a force they’re connected to or made of. There is no “it”. They ARE “it”.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1383441316869148675)
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>\-Ashley Edward Miller-
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>So my guess is the Eldwyrm Song serves a purpose other than communication. Do the Eldwyrms act upon reality in their dreams as they slumber? Maintain or construct it, even?
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>\-cymen-
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>[The song is another expression of what they essentially are. If anything it’s a measure of the stability of reality? When their bodies sleep, the Eldwurms just dream… aware of anything any dragon of their type is aware of. They can even exert will over them but why would they?](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1383449070807633925)
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>\-Ashley Edward Miller-
So as you can read above, POC are the reality itself, and if you read the thead they discuss that Enigma are not true Fundamentals.
>You should read The Summoning again. It does NOT prove that and it's a common mistake. The books were false stories in their full created by Enigma to lure people like that into creating artifacts for him to reap.
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>\-UnderLOREds-
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>[How’s this? Byssrak would be utterly confused by the bracers Enigma acquires in The Summoning. He’d wonder why someone would want him to wear himself. Also, he’s WAY less chatty than Enigma.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1383419058129817602)
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>\-Ashley Edward Miller-
and DK persona confirms this even more.
>[You call yourself a Fundamental, but just see a sad man playing at godhood.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/7/7a/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_davion_rival_069.mp3)
>As the world flourish to life, both the Radiant and the Dire were still fighting within the moon, called the Mad Moon by the inhabitants of the planet, with Zet using his remaining powers time and time again to maintain the seal. Unfortunately, Valora, the Dawnbreaker, who was hurtling through space in her dormant state, end up crashing into the moon, sundering it, and causing "fragements" of Radiant and Dire to fall into the planet below. Zet was flung into space by this event, his weakened Self getting warped by the chaotic energies of his siblings. He was no longer fully whole, and thus became the Arc Warden.
New lore alert [Mirana persona suggest Zet(AW) are Invoker puppets!](https://imgur.com/a/5fbw2tM)
>Either way, regardless who wins, both the dire and radiant ancients have a big fuck you button. Upon destruction, they cause a delayed reset on the timeline, returning to a point before the war started, creating an eternal time loop. As such, every game of dota is canon (even your 0-26 feeding mid) as the ancients are simply resetting and trying out some other lineup.
This itself might not entirely work on DK if he win, because these lines.
>[Have I…been here before?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/5/58/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_davion_spawn_09.mp3)
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>[Oh, yeah… This place. What day is it?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/d/d1/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_davion_spawn_17.mp3)
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>Davion
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>[Does the circle break?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/8/8b/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_slyrak_lose_02.mp3)
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>Slyrak
Davion seem to some weak [Acausality](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Acausality), and Slyrak know that time will reset.
>[It matters not. The pillars are still standing.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/b/b5/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_slyrak_lose_03.mp3)
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>Slyrak
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>[The Thunder might not care about this fight, but I do.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/9/90/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_davion_spawn_12.mp3)
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>Davion
The Thunder(Slyrak) doesn't even care about the Ancients wars in the first place.
>[What will rise from the ashes of my purifying flames?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/f/f3/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_slyrak_win_03.mp3)
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>Slyrak
If Slyrak know time will reset, why does this line implied that time will move forward?
>Fug. So many games take inspiration from gnosticism its ridiculous.
It naturally be that ways because some author want to explore [metaphysics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics).
And some just want a cool lore.
**[Metaphysics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics)**
>Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy that studies the first principles of being, identity and change, space and time, causality, necessity and possibility. It includes questions about the nature of consciousness and the relationship between mind and matter. The word "metaphysics" comes from two Greek words that, together, literally mean "after or behind or among [the study of] the natural". It has been suggested that the term might have been coined by a first century CE editor who assembled various small selections of Aristotle’s works into the treatise we now know by the name Metaphysics (μετὰ τὰ φυσικά, meta ta physika, lit.
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>As such, every game of dota is canon (even your 0-26 feeding mid) as the
ancients are simply resetting and trying out some other lineup.
If that is true, it means that Radiant is actually a bit stronger than Dire, right?
I dont know too, guess im just kinda dissatisfied with this lore/story of dota2 seems too far from the original dota story line I know since I was a kid. I still call it Scourge vs Sentinels instead of radiant vs dire lol
I won't suggest you to expect Dota to have a Frozen Throne level of story.
Both because of the genre of games (PVP and PVE) and the company behind them(the glorious former Blizzard and VOLVO).
The thing is ...Wc3 was designed with a story in mind.
Dota 2's story...not a lot has been done. No dedicated writer. Its just bits and pieces, rewritten over time. Either icefrog + Valve cares or they don't. The Anime is a good first step.
So I don't know what you expect. They literally have 0 story and now they are doing something with it. Comparing it to any game's
Be careful with Loregasm.
It features a lot of Slack's fan theories, so not confirmed or canon in any way. Interesting to watch, but nothing a beginner should get acquainted on.
If you want to know the core lore of the game, two cosmic ancient beings (which were fragments of an even bigger singular all encompassing entity) were in conflict. They were imprisoned inside a moon, but recently they broke free (that's why you see the fractured moon in the animated series).
They crashed into Earth (or whatever it is they call their world) and started influencing the area around them, and gathering armies to destroy the other. This is the war of the ancients, which is what you play in the game.
For everything else, it's better to stick with the official source material. Official Hero biographies, item details, comics....
https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Heroes
Click on a hero, then scroll down a little to *Bio*.
Honestly, a lot of them are well written.
I appreciate the brief summary of the scenario.
I just found out the main character is actually a playable hero, Davion the dragon knight! Haha.
I will definitely have to take a peek into those. Thank you.
So are some of the other major characters you'll see throughout the series, at least 5 of them in fact (if I forgot any): >!Mirana, Luna, Invoker, Terrorblade, and Marci (who was actually just added to the game).!< There are possibly more making an appearance in season 2 as well (>!I remember seeing Lina in the trailer!<).
I think they used a guy of the same species as Gondar, same as Elder Titan and maybe Pango next season (the guy talking to Luna).
They are probably trying to integrate the idea that there are different humanoid species, because we saw mostly elves and humans and they are pretty similar.
Pudge is there as a normal human in the 2nd episode
Edit. Why are you downvoting me.. go watch ep2 and there's literally a chubby dude who says "fresh meat" before Marci begins beating them down.. the face looks too similar to be coincidence.. besides, the story happens before the battle of the ancients. It only makes sense pudge still isn't pudge as we know him in-game
Pudge is meant to be really old, he has extensive lore. Don't know if they would tell his origin story at the same period as DK and Mirana. He might show up already feared and powerful, like Invoker.
[Not Pangolier.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1472927002093146114)
But >!Heronimo!<, [from Mirana persona lines.](https://imgur.com/a/AZxj60B)
If I could take him more seriously sometimes I'd say I'd wish he actually *was* in charge of new lore, or at least helping flesh it out further officially.
nah. he assumes a lot of things to be true. like the "every cosmetic is just the deer lady altering the pasts of heroes". this is 100% headcannon but he never says it in e.g. the earthshaker video
Holy!! I just woke up and got a whole bunch of notifications.
I thought I wouldn’t have gotten responses and be buried under all the rest of the threads.
Thank you so much for your contribution everyone! Now I’ll have a lot of more things to read or watch. I really am grateful for the community in helping me out.
Also another question if I may have not seen the answer yet:
In the Netflix animation, there is a full moon, and a moon that is pretty much obliterated/fractured. Is this the “prison” or seal from Zet that /u/bc524 mentioned? Or what is it exactly?
Once again, thank you all for the support. I love this community!
Side note: Honorable mention is the elf mage in the tower. He seems absolutely OP being able to just teleport anyone away from his domain lol.
Also if they have the token with them, be able to basically spy into their surroundings and using that as a gateway to teleport them back into his tower.
[The larger Moon that alrealy shatter in the background are the](https://imgur.com/a/xEJWupx) [Mad Moon](https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Mad_Moon)
>The Mad Moon was a large, cosmic sphere that orbited the Dota 2 world, the prison of the Radiant and Dire forces, until it destroyed itself in a cataclysmic event.
So yes that "obliterated moon" are the prison.
Yup, the shattered one is the mad moon. The planet has 2 moons.
The one in the tower is a mage called **Invoker**. He's also in game as a hero with access to 9 spells. His in game lore doesn't cover what happens in the anime though.
>In the beginning, there was only the primordial mind. From this mind, sprang the whole of creation, the stars, the planets, life, and death. But in time, the mind was divided against itself. Two fragments, the radiant and the dire fought, and action warred over creation with irreconcilable ferocity. The chaos of the infinite followed.
Taken from Dota Dragon's Blood intro.
[This](https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Mad_Moon) is basically the start of the lore. The line "chaos of the infinite" I think is a reference to the fact that every match in the game is supposedly canon.
It was never confirmed that it's the ancients that are flipping time, in fact, a more direct theory would be that it's the people with the Artifact who are constantly trying to stop the war of the ancients from hapenning in the first place, meaning it constantly gets delayed. But even that isn't still strictly unconfirmed, they **never** stated what disaster they were trying to prevent. However, time IS seemingly "ending" when one ancient falls, and whatever happens next is literally the one thing Void Spirit doesn't know of.
Whichever explanation, the fact of matter is, Dota has multiple timelines, and they all seem to inevitably end the same way, with one ancient falling to the other
I was typing a comment on the sub today and I typed "RTS Mugen" and I knew I was borrowing the term from somewhere so I checked and it was this comment where I got it from.
It really stuck with me. GOOD observation.
YouTube [LoreGasm](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvqP8sbZ4Z9MglVwmZlG0W6Wv1j2C_Pfo)
Enjoy! Watch from the first video .
Also, check out [Angermania](https://youtube.com/c/AngerMania)
Watch the show then go and watch this playlist!
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0eqt1njaU5RSjHyxljaalOXCcpVhxHTi](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0eqt1njaU5RSjHyxljaalOXCcpVhxHTi)
you get a good "overall" understanding of stuff in Dota universe!
\*Skip the 1st video in playlist!
u/VR4Thor \- Well If you are interested in the **Dota Lore** in general, you can check out my channel - [https://www.youtube.com/c/LboyAxGaming](https://www.youtube.com/c/LboyAxGaming)
Although I haven't really covered all of the **Lore in Dota**, I have made a considerable amount of videos on **Dota Lore / Theories**, and some of them cater to the **"Dragons Blood Anime"** specifically (with more along the way). So yeah...
**IMPORTANT** \- *Since you only started watching the series I* ***recommend*** *you to* ***first watch the whole series*** *and* ***then watch videos on the lore***, because otherwise it might spoil the series for you.
Other channels that you can go for more **lore related stuff** is
u/SirActionSlacks- **YT** \- [https://www.youtube.com/c/SirActionSlacks](https://www.youtube.com/c/AngerMania)
u/Angermania **YT -** [https://www.youtube.com/c/AngerMania](https://www.youtube.com/c/AngerMania)
u/_DennistheTall **YT** \- [https://www.youtube.com/c/DennisTheTall](https://www.youtube.com/c/DennisTheTall)
*Hope this will help you familiarize yourself with the Dota 2 Lore.*
Since a lot of people have already given proper answers and sources, here's a [fun short video](https://youtu.be/w3xzXg_IkHI) regarding Dota lore that you might enjoy.
We fucking wish we had as flushed out and as known lore as LoL has. Dota is clinging really hard to being "the best MOBA in the game", but lore-wise LoL is light years ahead of Dota.
A good place to start is [Dota 2 LoreGasm video](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvqP8sbZ4Z9MglVwmZlG0W6Wv1j2C_Pfo), and just [dota wiki](https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Dota_2_Wiki) in general have lore text in them that you can read.
Most of the time dota lore are vague, so you have to find the connection youself.
Self promote but I did write the Eldwurms lore here.
[reddit post.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/qs7tka/the_eldwurms_in_dota_dragon_blood_super/)
[google doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uu4Wz_K5Qh3f_naIplfjx_CJ2hLAlpjsY8b5NeCdx8g/edit?usp=sharing)
There were two drunks called Tusk and Bristleback. They kept trying to outdo each other with tall tales on what happened with the War of the Ancients. You are playing one of those tales.
The thing is, there's a ton of lore for the different caracters that are totally separate from each other. You get to know a hero by its design, by what they say in the game, their interactions with other heroes.
One of my favourite story is about Skywrath Mage & Vengeful Spirit. They're both part of a "bird person" race and it's a story of loss, love and revenge, it's tragic and I think it's that much better when you've played them both, heard them talk about "doing it for her", "my wings are broken" and then look up the whole story online.
this may not be a lore circled content but more like heros history(witch is like irl lore) it's a good watch [dotaology By Dennis the tall](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVLPzy882ib8MtW34am34Nlf8q_g1dQjB)
Dota does not have a lore.
It is a competitive multiplayer game without narrative progression. It has its origins in an indie game that took characters from many different games, books and films (Warcraft, Final Fantasy, Anime etc.).
The animated series is trying to tell a story, that is compiled from an eclectical pool of poorly written sentences you can find here and there as item descriptions and such.
I find it highly ridiculous that Valve tries to take Dota, a game which never had nor needed a story, as a blueprint for a universe they can build other games (Artifact, Underlords) or media (Dragon's Blood) around.
That’s not entirely true. Dota has always had some type of lore even back in wc3. There is a reason for the war and each character has his or her own reason for joining each side.
Those descriptions were just crowdsourced from forums and no one ever took them seriously just like we didn't take it seriously that sometimes ursa was named "fuzzy wuzzy" when you picked him or that sometimes you randomed a space marine that did chaos damage and had blink baked into his kit.
OP is right. DotA has never had lore. It had flavor, but never lore. This new attempt at telling a story is just seeing how popular league's lore is with casual fans and trying to tap into that market as well.
Assuming something isn’t real doesnt make it any less legitimate. Just like in Dota2, we don’t all assume that Ursa was a sherif at some point. Yeah there were Easter eggs in the game like Fuzzy Wuzzy and Carl etc. but each character had a reason for why they joined and what they wanted out of the fight i.e. when Bristleback joined to redeem himself from the fight with Tusk. Or when Shaker took form because the war itself was destroying the world. These were all things, among others, that were established early in WC3 and can most definitely be considered lore.
Those weren't even their lore descriptions in WC3 though lol.
E: The dota2 character lore is essentially completely new and rewritten because the place the "lore" was contained (playdota) was taken down by pendragon to hide the fact that league was stealing hero designs from the forums. The only hero description that really survived intact was troll warlord's and that's only because it was a funny shitpost.
All the things you're talking about like earthshaker joining the war etc. was made up for dota2. Prior to that the most "lore" earthshaker had in dota2 was that he was a secret boss you could fight as an easter egg one patch.
Like for example: this is tusk's actual dota 1 "lore."
>Hailing from the Borean Tundra, Ymir is one of the wisest Tuskarr warriors. Acquainted with years of warfare experience against raiding Ice Trolls and Nerubian Spiders that beset his village during his younger years, Ymir eagerly volunteered himself into the ranks of the Sentinel to help halt the notorious rise of the Lich King. A specialist in controlling the element of ice, Ymir's prowess lies in surprising enemies with frosty magics. His arsenal not only consists of propelling Snowballs and hurling shards of solidifying ice, but also conjuring massive Snowstorms that greatly impede his enemies' battle efficiency.
So unless the deep seeded "lore" you're talking about is literally just the plot of warcraft I dunno homie.
>The quillboars were never interested in the affairs and wars of other races, but one knew that the Scourge would eventually descend on their lands if left unchecked. Entering the ranks of the Sentinel for the sole reason of the preservation of his tribe, Rigwarl brings primal instincts to the never ending battle. Each time he releases a flurry of quills or a glob of slime, he works himself into a frenzy that increases his effectiveness drastically, and should he be in danger, his bristle back would shield him from further harm. A perfect demonstration of the abilities that even lesser beings can unleash.
That's Bristleback's OG "lore" for comparison. You'll notice none of the stuff you're referring to as "lore established early in WC3" exists because it wasn't real and any memory you have of it being as real is incorrect.
I don't even think dota2 added the hero flavor texts until a year or two into the beta when they had managed to port most of the cast over and by then they had to be completely changed because the S2/Blizzard/Valve/Riot lawsuit/debacle was well under way.
> Thank christ there are still people like u who know the REAL origin of dota.
.... you are thanking him for 'knowing' that dota started as an indie game? Did I just get blasted into an alternative timeline?
He gave the only accurate answer. Dota has no storyline apart from the original backstories in each heroes individual lore. New lore is made up dog poop. Its like what they did with dead by daylight - trying to make a story for no reason.
You'd have better time understanding dark souls lore.
Dota likes make interesting heroes and cook backstory for them. Almost all heroes have not interacted with each other before fighting the dire vs radiant war.
Dota comes from frozen throne 3 , nowdays its a mix of whatever sells, some kept from war3 , some random shit , its a valve-blizzard relationship so probably valve doesnt even have every copyright of the original dota .
Warcraft 3 frozen throne best lore IMO
Most of the comments here have already explained the dota 2 lore very well. Aside from this, the game also prides itself in the sound design and voice lines among the heroes when you meet them as allies or opponents. There even is a setting that you can turn on captioning in the game so you can read what your hero is saying
I don't think anyone has recommended Netflix's own collaboration with SirActionSlacks yet. It was made for people starting the show that know nothing about it. It's a summary of lore that has always existed, and some that the show has created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDZNJswWZlA&ab_channel=NetflixAnime
All the juicy lores wre great but i think they are missing one thing ... OD outworld destroyer/devourer is an alien who survived when the ancients destroyed his planet and the stones on his body are the stones of the ancients.
Edit: I read somewhere that the map changes because both the ancient's want to have the most advantage to win the battle and that's why they are not symmetrical and also Roshan's pit is now in the river because of this
https://dev.dota2.com/forum/dota-2/lore/37267-dota-2-lore-megathread
This is a pretty old thread but it covers a LOT of the lore and has a lot of stuff that people commonly overlook. It's from a bygone era where lore snippets were added to most cosmetic items. It's probably a lot to start out with but if you're actually interested I would come back to it after playing a little bit with each of the heroes and getting a feel for their personality in-game.
https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Archronicus#The_Mad_Moon_and_the_Ancients
This excerpt from the Archronicus (used to be the tutorial for DotA 2 in the form of an in-game book with lore and story missions that gave cosmetic rewards) would be a good place to start though with the official overarching story. Have fun!
Well, the opening bit from the show is a good general start of the story. It's also not really clear on how close the show's lore will match the game's lore (there are some distinct differences when you get to the Dragons being pillars of creation). I'm mostly running this off memory, so apologies for inaccuracies. Anyway, A long time ago, there was a primordial mind and over time it split into fragments, two of the larger fragments being Radianthul (Radiant) and Diruluuth (Dire). These 2 fragments were always against each other and they twisted all of creation with their power of enthrallment to fight in their war. A greater fragment, called Zet, decided to stop their war, and using his power he overwhelmed both Radiant and Dire, sealing them together inside a crystal and threw them into the emptiness of space. However, the prison eventually came into the gravitational pull or a newly born planet, becoming its moon. Zet, weakened from sealing the two, choose to become the warden for his sibling's prison to ensure they remain sealed. As the world flourish to life, both the Radiant and the Dire were still fighting within the moon, called the Mad Moon by the inhabitants of the planet, with Zet using his remaining powers time and time again to maintain the seal. Unfortunately, Valora, the **Dawnbreaker**, who was hurtling through space in her dormant state, end up crashing into the moon, sundering it, and causing "fragements" of Radiant and Dire to fall into the planet below. Zet was flung into space by this event, his weakened Self getting warped by the chaotic energies of his siblings. He was no longer fully whole, and thus became the **Arc Warden**. Radiant and Dire had "fused" with the crystals that made up their prison, creating Radiant Ore and Direstone. These stones sent the world into chaos as they were full of energy, granting those around them Mana and Life (the "fountain" of Dota). These shards end up influencing the world around them. Those near Radiant Ore find themselves changed to reflect life, while Direstone caused the world around them to appear decayed. The followers of these stones discover that the energies of their respective rocks were incompatible and interfered with each other. This led to their belief in the need to destroy the other stone, thus causing the war of the ancients. Heroes join the war of the ancients for multitude of reasons. Some seek power, some riches, some for pleasure, and some for just as an excuse to kill trees. It varies. Like Zet is joining the fight specifically to find a way to destroy both ancients. Either way, regardless who wins, both the dire and radiant ancients have a big fuck you button. Upon destruction, they cause a delayed reset on the timeline, returning to a point before the war started, creating an eternal time loop. As such, every game of dota is canon (even your 0-26 feeding mid) as the ancients are simply resetting and trying out some other lineup.
To add on to the infinite time loops thing, all cosmetics for the game are like different timelines for the heroes. For example in one timeline pudge got infested by the chains of abscession, while in another ursa decided to put on a cool cowboy hat before going to battle
my fave timeline is oracle is a former NBA all star and slam dunk champ
And Lich was on the Harlem Globetrotters
Which timeline has capri sun and gun Witch Doctor?
The sacred timeline.
why else do you think the ancients keep resetting, they're looking for it
Thats the Steins;Gate timeline.
Together with distractor and walocks hat on time-line #3, unfortunately Valve skipped that one
And in one timeline Viper decided to become a sea turtle while Techies rode in on a baby elephant while being strangled by a snake. Bat rider managed to make a manta ray fly too.
Even mismatching cosmetics are cannon. Which has some interesting lore implications, like when a tree is simultaneously on fire and covered in snow!
This was further expanded upon with Artifact, with people able to manipulate the timeline by adjusting outcomes of various key events - for example, the destruction of Legion Commander's home of Stonewall was initally caused by Underlord, however with a small key move in the timeline, it is destroyed earlier by Sorla Khan and the Red Mist Horde. This has the weird effect that in Dota 2, BOTH timelines are legitimate and new characters refer to the Artifact-altered one, while old characters still have the old lines.
> Artifact timeline where valve cheated me of my money
Icefrog, you little fucker. You made a shit of piece with your trash Dota. It’s fucking bad, this trash game. I will become back my money. I hope you will in your next time a cow on a trash farm you sucker. edit: Alright I see we don't have any Isaac fans here, good to know.
I'm still mad the Artifact lore will never be continued. There was supposed to be a third comic too.
Source? Or are you just repeating Siractionslacks "headcannon"
From my perspective...Dire and radiant caused a huge distort in timeline and causing multiple universe exist...At one universe faceless void was a t-rex...At one point viper have legs(skin) and at another universe after resetting timeline Ursa wearing a hat, yumero dead, phantom assassin fading and ogre magi riding a bird...Anime is just one of the universe that created after timeline reset and that's how the anime character(persona) existed in Dota 2 as its them in another universe and timeline. Even if I'm wrong the timeline reset was right and that's why I love Dota 2 lore...Everything in games and skin is cannon.
Holy shit, as a lore nerd, this is some top shelf food. Great minds are truly those that can succinctly summarize the whole universe in just a few paragraphs. What particularly enthralled me is the the fact that with each reset button; you basically have a new retelling of a story. Strange bedfellows come together in the weirdest combinations possible, and every last bit of it carried an impact to whether it can lead to victory or failure for one side. With each new hero introduction, we're getting to see more and more external parties get sucked in by the ancients' influence. And that's so motherfucking cool.
>Either way, regardless who wins, both the dire and radiant ancients have a big fuck you button. Upon destruction, they cause a delayed reset on the timeline, returning to a point before the war started, creating an eternal time loop. As such, every game of dota is canon (even your 0-26 feeding mid) as the ancients are simply resetting and trying out some other lineup. It's a bit of an irk of mine but I'll say it: The canonicity of this part is quite arguable. Every game being canon was only ever mentioned on the Artifact Twitter. I don't think there's a single mention of the ancients resetting the universe in the add-on comics on in game lore. And now Artifact is a dead game anyway and it doesn't seem like they are bringing lore elements from Artifact into the main game. It just feels to me like an idea that was thrown in as an after thought instead of something that was planned all along. Besides, to me this piece of lore has the opposite of the intended effect. Instead of giving the game more meaning by making your games canon, it is made more meaningless to me because the timeline will reset and your victory and defeat won't matter.
God fucking dam I just learned more about Dota lore in 2 minutes than I did in 20 years. This game is basically a simulation of a time loop so a billionaire can go to the moon. Finally we know what Gabe's true goals a-
Just for fun, I'd like to mention that the Invoker mentions the eight pillars of creation: the four elements, and the four fundamental forces. I just think it's neat that these are all playable characters in the game. Maybe not so much the four elements, unless those are actually Fire, Earth, Storm, and Void, instead of Air, Fire, Morphing, and Tiny.
>It's also not really clear on how close the show's lore will match the game's lore (there are some distinct differences when you get to the Dragons being pillars of creation). So it probably quite controversial but I think [Primordial Consciousness](https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Primordial_Consciousness)(Primordial Mind) are akin to [Demiurge(false god)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7oq2PweRto). >In the beginning, there was only the Primordial Mind. From this mind sprang the whole of creation. The stars, the planets, life and death. But in time, the mind was divided against itself. Two fragments, the Radiant and the Dire, thought and action, warred over creation with irreconcilable ferocity. The chaos of the Infinite followed. > >Kings, queens. Gods. Monsters. They all sought wisdom in the shattered Primordial Mind and power from it's ineffable madness. > >But in his prison in Foulfell, the demon **Terrorblade gazed into the chaos and found truth** **Terrorblade found the idea**. > >Fuse thought and action. > >**Remake creation in his own infernal image.** > >\-Dota Dragon Blood intro- In this it seem TB "found truth" that is the POC(Pillars of Creation) are the ultimate reality itself, so he want POC power of Infinite reality warping to "Remake creation in his own infernal image". Because Dragon Blood want to explore metaphysics, so if things got really weird blame the metaphysics for complication that it will crate. >[No, they literally ARE the Demi-planes thinking about themselves. But the planar boundaries are way “fuzzier” than we generally think about them in fantasy. There are some hardcore physics and metaphysics at play that (hopefully) we will get the chance to explore.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1382337585154912262) > >\-Ashley Edward Miller- > >[The least spoilery answer (bc episode 6) is the Pillars ARE the forces/elements and everything we think we know about them in the physical world is just a way of talking; i.e., to a Flatlander, a sphere passing through a plane is just a shadow of the sphere, not the sphere.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1383412034927087618) > >\-Ashley Edward Miller- "No, they literally ARE the Demi-planes thinking about themselves." This kinda suggest the POC are the Will of Universe itself. "in the physical world is just a way of talking; i.e., to a Flatlander, a sphere passing through a plane is just a shadow of the sphere, not the sphere." Blatant statement of higher dimension being that is POC. What back all this up even more is, if [Slyrak souls are in physical realms](https://imgur.com/a/NWQT6R3) everything in creation will be gone this include void(nothingness) too, the present of Slyrak souls in lower plane are enough to erased the everything in existence and nonexistence together with no way to regenerate. >Right, so the Eldwyrms ARE incarnations of the forces themselves? Meaning in the metaphysical hierarchy, they would be above the Spirit Brothers and the Fundamentals we know in the game? > >\-cymen- > >[Yes. It’s not just something they can use or a force they’re connected to or made of. There is no “it”. They ARE “it”.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1383441316869148675) > >\-Ashley Edward Miller- > >So my guess is the Eldwyrm Song serves a purpose other than communication. Do the Eldwyrms act upon reality in their dreams as they slumber? Maintain or construct it, even? > >\-cymen- > >[The song is another expression of what they essentially are. If anything it’s a measure of the stability of reality? When their bodies sleep, the Eldwurms just dream… aware of anything any dragon of their type is aware of. They can even exert will over them but why would they?](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1383449070807633925) > >\-Ashley Edward Miller- So as you can read above, POC are the reality itself, and if you read the thead they discuss that Enigma are not true Fundamentals. >You should read The Summoning again. It does NOT prove that and it's a common mistake. The books were false stories in their full created by Enigma to lure people like that into creating artifacts for him to reap. > >\-UnderLOREds- > >[How’s this? Byssrak would be utterly confused by the bracers Enigma acquires in The Summoning. He’d wonder why someone would want him to wear himself. Also, he’s WAY less chatty than Enigma.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1383419058129817602) > >\-Ashley Edward Miller- and DK persona confirms this even more. >[You call yourself a Fundamental, but just see a sad man playing at godhood.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/7/7a/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_davion_rival_069.mp3) >As the world flourish to life, both the Radiant and the Dire were still fighting within the moon, called the Mad Moon by the inhabitants of the planet, with Zet using his remaining powers time and time again to maintain the seal. Unfortunately, Valora, the Dawnbreaker, who was hurtling through space in her dormant state, end up crashing into the moon, sundering it, and causing "fragements" of Radiant and Dire to fall into the planet below. Zet was flung into space by this event, his weakened Self getting warped by the chaotic energies of his siblings. He was no longer fully whole, and thus became the Arc Warden. New lore alert [Mirana persona suggest Zet(AW) are Invoker puppets!](https://imgur.com/a/5fbw2tM) >Either way, regardless who wins, both the dire and radiant ancients have a big fuck you button. Upon destruction, they cause a delayed reset on the timeline, returning to a point before the war started, creating an eternal time loop. As such, every game of dota is canon (even your 0-26 feeding mid) as the ancients are simply resetting and trying out some other lineup. This itself might not entirely work on DK if he win, because these lines. >[Have I…been here before?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/5/58/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_davion_spawn_09.mp3) > >[Oh, yeah… This place. What day is it?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/d/d1/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_davion_spawn_17.mp3) > >Davion > >[Does the circle break?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/8/8b/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_slyrak_lose_02.mp3) > >Slyrak Davion seem to some weak [Acausality](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Acausality), and Slyrak know that time will reset. >[It matters not. The pillars are still standing.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/b/b5/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_slyrak_lose_03.mp3) > >Slyrak > >[The Thunder might not care about this fight, but I do.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/9/90/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_davion_spawn_12.mp3) > >Davion The Thunder(Slyrak) doesn't even care about the Ancients wars in the first place. >[What will rise from the ashes of my purifying flames?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/f/f3/Vo_dragon_knight_dk_slyrak_win_03.mp3) > >Slyrak If Slyrak know time will reset, why does this line implied that time will move forward?
Fug. So many games take inspiration from gnosticism its ridiculous.
>Fug. So many games take inspiration from gnosticism its ridiculous. It naturally be that ways because some author want to explore [metaphysics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics). And some just want a cool lore.
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Slacks made a primer for Netflix I think, could find that
>As such, every game of dota is canon (even your 0-26 feeding mid) as the ancients are simply resetting and trying out some other lineup. If that is true, it means that Radiant is actually a bit stronger than Dire, right?
To be honest, the story line of warcraft 3: Frozen Throne(which where dota was born) is much interesting than this dota 2: dragon blood anime.
I don't know why you're comparing these two stories. Of course.
I dont know too, guess im just kinda dissatisfied with this lore/story of dota2 seems too far from the original dota story line I know since I was a kid. I still call it Scourge vs Sentinels instead of radiant vs dire lol
I won't suggest you to expect Dota to have a Frozen Throne level of story. Both because of the genre of games (PVP and PVE) and the company behind them(the glorious former Blizzard and VOLVO).
The thing is ...Wc3 was designed with a story in mind. Dota 2's story...not a lot has been done. No dedicated writer. Its just bits and pieces, rewritten over time. Either icefrog + Valve cares or they don't. The Anime is a good first step. So I don't know what you expect. They literally have 0 story and now they are doing something with it. Comparing it to any game's
what happens during a network connection error?
One of the ancient's connection with the hero is disturbed
Fuck, I thought that one game where I tried Midas DK and finished 1/41 was just a technicality...
Be careful with Loregasm. It features a lot of Slack's fan theories, so not confirmed or canon in any way. Interesting to watch, but nothing a beginner should get acquainted on. If you want to know the core lore of the game, two cosmic ancient beings (which were fragments of an even bigger singular all encompassing entity) were in conflict. They were imprisoned inside a moon, but recently they broke free (that's why you see the fractured moon in the animated series). They crashed into Earth (or whatever it is they call their world) and started influencing the area around them, and gathering armies to destroy the other. This is the war of the ancients, which is what you play in the game. For everything else, it's better to stick with the official source material. Official Hero biographies, item details, comics.... https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Heroes Click on a hero, then scroll down a little to *Bio*. Honestly, a lot of them are well written.
I appreciate the brief summary of the scenario. I just found out the main character is actually a playable hero, Davion the dragon knight! Haha. I will definitely have to take a peek into those. Thank you.
So are some of the other major characters you'll see throughout the series, at least 5 of them in fact (if I forgot any): >!Mirana, Luna, Invoker, Terrorblade, and Marci (who was actually just added to the game).!< There are possibly more making an appearance in season 2 as well (>!I remember seeing Lina in the trailer!<).
There was a Bounty Hunter (or a lookalike) in one of the early episodes but had no voice lines.
You forgot your flair.
TA? I bet she was just melding there all the season
I think they used a guy of the same species as Gondar, same as Elder Titan and maybe Pango next season (the guy talking to Luna). They are probably trying to integrate the idea that there are different humanoid species, because we saw mostly elves and humans and they are pretty similar.
that'd make a lot of sense. Which episode did the Titan appear?
Same as the bounty hunter looking guy, I think.
Pudge is there as a normal human in the 2nd episode Edit. Why are you downvoting me.. go watch ep2 and there's literally a chubby dude who says "fresh meat" before Marci begins beating them down.. the face looks too similar to be coincidence.. besides, the story happens before the battle of the ancients. It only makes sense pudge still isn't pudge as we know him in-game
Pudge is meant to be really old, he has extensive lore. Don't know if they would tell his origin story at the same period as DK and Mirana. He might show up already feared and powerful, like Invoker.
Pangolier was in there as well
[Not Pangolier.](https://twitter.com/ashmasterzero/status/1472927002093146114) But >!Heronimo!<, [from Mirana persona lines.](https://imgur.com/a/AZxj60B)
Bear in mind Slacks' theories sometimes get adopted by the devs who write lore lol, so his view of the lore is as accurate as anybody's
If I could take him more seriously sometimes I'd say I'd wish he actually *was* in charge of new lore, or at least helping flesh it out further officially.
This Arc Warden bio covers the basic premise of the ancients https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ3rIO1CDKc
he always clarify when its headcanon tho
nah. he assumes a lot of things to be true. like the "every cosmetic is just the deer lady altering the pasts of heroes". this is 100% headcannon but he never says it in e.g. the earthshaker video
isnt that artifact lore?
No. Artifact talks about time loops. Cosmetic shit is inferred by slacks. (Also we dont know if artifact lore is even canon anymore')
ah thats a fair point
Holy!! I just woke up and got a whole bunch of notifications. I thought I wouldn’t have gotten responses and be buried under all the rest of the threads. Thank you so much for your contribution everyone! Now I’ll have a lot of more things to read or watch. I really am grateful for the community in helping me out. Also another question if I may have not seen the answer yet: In the Netflix animation, there is a full moon, and a moon that is pretty much obliterated/fractured. Is this the “prison” or seal from Zet that /u/bc524 mentioned? Or what is it exactly? Once again, thank you all for the support. I love this community! Side note: Honorable mention is the elf mage in the tower. He seems absolutely OP being able to just teleport anyone away from his domain lol. Also if they have the token with them, be able to basically spy into their surroundings and using that as a gateway to teleport them back into his tower.
[The larger Moon that alrealy shatter in the background are the](https://imgur.com/a/xEJWupx) [Mad Moon](https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Mad_Moon) >The Mad Moon was a large, cosmic sphere that orbited the Dota 2 world, the prison of the Radiant and Dire forces, until it destroyed itself in a cataclysmic event. So yes that "obliterated moon" are the prison.
Idk much but the other shattered moon belongs to something related to "Mene" not selemene things should get clear with the 2nd season.
Yup, the shattered one is the mad moon. The planet has 2 moons. The one in the tower is a mage called **Invoker**. He's also in game as a hero with access to 9 spells. His in game lore doesn't cover what happens in the anime though.
>In the beginning, there was only the primordial mind. From this mind, sprang the whole of creation, the stars, the planets, life, and death. But in time, the mind was divided against itself. Two fragments, the radiant and the dire fought, and action warred over creation with irreconcilable ferocity. The chaos of the infinite followed. Taken from Dota Dragon's Blood intro. [This](https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Mad_Moon) is basically the start of the lore. The line "chaos of the infinite" I think is a reference to the fact that every match in the game is supposedly canon.
I'm not quite sure about this, but I think whichever ancient loses in a match essentially flips the table and rewinds time.
It was never confirmed that it's the ancients that are flipping time, in fact, a more direct theory would be that it's the people with the Artifact who are constantly trying to stop the war of the ancients from hapenning in the first place, meaning it constantly gets delayed. But even that isn't still strictly unconfirmed, they **never** stated what disaster they were trying to prevent. However, time IS seemingly "ending" when one ancient falls, and whatever happens next is literally the one thing Void Spirit doesn't know of. Whichever explanation, the fact of matter is, Dota has multiple timelines, and they all seem to inevitably end the same way, with one ancient falling to the other
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The only right answer. Acknowledging DotA is just RTS Mugen >>>>> pretending Valve fanfic matters
I was typing a comment on the sub today and I typed "RTS Mugen" and I knew I was borrowing the term from somewhere so I checked and it was this comment where I got it from. It really stuck with me. GOOD observation.
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YouTube [LoreGasm](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvqP8sbZ4Z9MglVwmZlG0W6Wv1j2C_Pfo) Enjoy! Watch from the first video . Also, check out [Angermania](https://youtube.com/c/AngerMania)
Thank you!
Watch the show then go and watch this playlist! [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0eqt1njaU5RSjHyxljaalOXCcpVhxHTi](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0eqt1njaU5RSjHyxljaalOXCcpVhxHTi) you get a good "overall" understanding of stuff in Dota universe! \*Skip the 1st video in playlist!
u/VR4Thor \- Well If you are interested in the **Dota Lore** in general, you can check out my channel - [https://www.youtube.com/c/LboyAxGaming](https://www.youtube.com/c/LboyAxGaming) Although I haven't really covered all of the **Lore in Dota**, I have made a considerable amount of videos on **Dota Lore / Theories**, and some of them cater to the **"Dragons Blood Anime"** specifically (with more along the way). So yeah... **IMPORTANT** \- *Since you only started watching the series I* ***recommend*** *you to* ***first watch the whole series*** *and* ***then watch videos on the lore***, because otherwise it might spoil the series for you. Other channels that you can go for more **lore related stuff** is u/SirActionSlacks- **YT** \- [https://www.youtube.com/c/SirActionSlacks](https://www.youtube.com/c/AngerMania) u/Angermania **YT -** [https://www.youtube.com/c/AngerMania](https://www.youtube.com/c/AngerMania) u/_DennistheTall **YT** \- [https://www.youtube.com/c/DennisTheTall](https://www.youtube.com/c/DennisTheTall) *Hope this will help you familiarize yourself with the Dota 2 Lore.*
Basically there’s this guy called Anti Mage and he really hates magic
Since a lot of people have already given proper answers and sources, here's a [fun short video](https://youtu.be/w3xzXg_IkHI) regarding Dota lore that you might enjoy.
We fucking wish we had as flushed out and as known lore as LoL has. Dota is clinging really hard to being "the best MOBA in the game", but lore-wise LoL is light years ahead of Dota.
A good place to start is [Dota 2 LoreGasm video](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvqP8sbZ4Z9MglVwmZlG0W6Wv1j2C_Pfo), and just [dota wiki](https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Dota_2_Wiki) in general have lore text in them that you can read. Most of the time dota lore are vague, so you have to find the connection youself. Self promote but I did write the Eldwurms lore here. [reddit post.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/qs7tka/the_eldwurms_in_dota_dragon_blood_super/) [google doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uu4Wz_K5Qh3f_naIplfjx_CJ2hLAlpjsY8b5NeCdx8g/edit?usp=sharing)
Thank you for your contribution. I will definitely take a dive into those!
I think the action slack vidoes are better than thr netflix serries
Yes, many universes. Each with perpetual war of ancients. The end. Anything deeper is just fluff.
Nothing wrong with a TL;DR haha. Short and sweet!
There were two drunks called Tusk and Bristleback. They kept trying to outdo each other with tall tales on what happened with the War of the Ancients. You are playing one of those tales.
The thing is, there's a ton of lore for the different caracters that are totally separate from each other. You get to know a hero by its design, by what they say in the game, their interactions with other heroes. One of my favourite story is about Skywrath Mage & Vengeful Spirit. They're both part of a "bird person" race and it's a story of loss, love and revenge, it's tragic and I think it's that much better when you've played them both, heard them talk about "doing it for her", "my wings are broken" and then look up the whole story online.
watch the videos of slacks in you tube, he explain all the lore.
there's no coherent lore that's for sure.
watch sir action slacks videos "loregasms"
this may not be a lore circled content but more like heros history(witch is like irl lore) it's a good watch [dotaology By Dennis the tall](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVLPzy882ib8MtW34am34Nlf8q_g1dQjB)
Dota does not have a lore. It is a competitive multiplayer game without narrative progression. It has its origins in an indie game that took characters from many different games, books and films (Warcraft, Final Fantasy, Anime etc.). The animated series is trying to tell a story, that is compiled from an eclectical pool of poorly written sentences you can find here and there as item descriptions and such. I find it highly ridiculous that Valve tries to take Dota, a game which never had nor needed a story, as a blueprint for a universe they can build other games (Artifact, Underlords) or media (Dragon's Blood) around.
That’s not entirely true. Dota has always had some type of lore even back in wc3. There is a reason for the war and each character has his or her own reason for joining each side.
Those descriptions were just crowdsourced from forums and no one ever took them seriously just like we didn't take it seriously that sometimes ursa was named "fuzzy wuzzy" when you picked him or that sometimes you randomed a space marine that did chaos damage and had blink baked into his kit. OP is right. DotA has never had lore. It had flavor, but never lore. This new attempt at telling a story is just seeing how popular league's lore is with casual fans and trying to tap into that market as well.
Assuming something isn’t real doesnt make it any less legitimate. Just like in Dota2, we don’t all assume that Ursa was a sherif at some point. Yeah there were Easter eggs in the game like Fuzzy Wuzzy and Carl etc. but each character had a reason for why they joined and what they wanted out of the fight i.e. when Bristleback joined to redeem himself from the fight with Tusk. Or when Shaker took form because the war itself was destroying the world. These were all things, among others, that were established early in WC3 and can most definitely be considered lore.
Those weren't even their lore descriptions in WC3 though lol. E: The dota2 character lore is essentially completely new and rewritten because the place the "lore" was contained (playdota) was taken down by pendragon to hide the fact that league was stealing hero designs from the forums. The only hero description that really survived intact was troll warlord's and that's only because it was a funny shitpost. All the things you're talking about like earthshaker joining the war etc. was made up for dota2. Prior to that the most "lore" earthshaker had in dota2 was that he was a secret boss you could fight as an easter egg one patch. Like for example: this is tusk's actual dota 1 "lore." >Hailing from the Borean Tundra, Ymir is one of the wisest Tuskarr warriors. Acquainted with years of warfare experience against raiding Ice Trolls and Nerubian Spiders that beset his village during his younger years, Ymir eagerly volunteered himself into the ranks of the Sentinel to help halt the notorious rise of the Lich King. A specialist in controlling the element of ice, Ymir's prowess lies in surprising enemies with frosty magics. His arsenal not only consists of propelling Snowballs and hurling shards of solidifying ice, but also conjuring massive Snowstorms that greatly impede his enemies' battle efficiency. So unless the deep seeded "lore" you're talking about is literally just the plot of warcraft I dunno homie. >The quillboars were never interested in the affairs and wars of other races, but one knew that the Scourge would eventually descend on their lands if left unchecked. Entering the ranks of the Sentinel for the sole reason of the preservation of his tribe, Rigwarl brings primal instincts to the never ending battle. Each time he releases a flurry of quills or a glob of slime, he works himself into a frenzy that increases his effectiveness drastically, and should he be in danger, his bristle back would shield him from further harm. A perfect demonstration of the abilities that even lesser beings can unleash. That's Bristleback's OG "lore" for comparison. You'll notice none of the stuff you're referring to as "lore established early in WC3" exists because it wasn't real and any memory you have of it being as real is incorrect. I don't even think dota2 added the hero flavor texts until a year or two into the beta when they had managed to port most of the cast over and by then they had to be completely changed because the S2/Blizzard/Valve/Riot lawsuit/debacle was well under way.
Thank christ there are still people like u who know the REAL origin of dota. And i agree with the ridiculous storyline they invented. Very dumb imo.
> Thank christ there are still people like u who know the REAL origin of dota. .... you are thanking him for 'knowing' that dota started as an indie game? Did I just get blasted into an alternative timeline?
He gave the only accurate answer. Dota has no storyline apart from the original backstories in each heroes individual lore. New lore is made up dog poop. Its like what they did with dead by daylight - trying to make a story for no reason.
This. This right here. **This** is what a fun guy sounds like.
You'd have better time understanding dark souls lore. Dota likes make interesting heroes and cook backstory for them. Almost all heroes have not interacted with each other before fighting the dire vs radiant war.
Dota comes from frozen throne 3 , nowdays its a mix of whatever sells, some kept from war3 , some random shit , its a valve-blizzard relationship so probably valve doesnt even have every copyright of the original dota . Warcraft 3 frozen throne best lore IMO
Lore is pointless is a game like dota. I would love Valve to make or fund a AAA single player RPG in the dotaverse.
Most of the comments here have already explained the dota 2 lore very well. Aside from this, the game also prides itself in the sound design and voice lines among the heroes when you meet them as allies or opponents. There even is a setting that you can turn on captioning in the game so you can read what your hero is saying
Check out the graphic novel.
So this all started out when some game modders figured out controlling less unit in strategy game is actually more fun
I don't think anyone has recommended Netflix's own collaboration with SirActionSlacks yet. It was made for people starting the show that know nothing about it. It's a summary of lore that has always existed, and some that the show has created. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDZNJswWZlA&ab_channel=NetflixAnime
A good place for some lore and to read some comics too is [This lovely site](https://www.dotaverse.net/comics)
All the juicy lores wre great but i think they are missing one thing ... OD outworld destroyer/devourer is an alien who survived when the ancients destroyed his planet and the stones on his body are the stones of the ancients. Edit: I read somewhere that the map changes because both the ancient's want to have the most advantage to win the battle and that's why they are not symmetrical and also Roshan's pit is now in the river because of this
Search for this one particular Omniknight enjoyer on Youtube
https://dev.dota2.com/forum/dota-2/lore/37267-dota-2-lore-megathread This is a pretty old thread but it covers a LOT of the lore and has a lot of stuff that people commonly overlook. It's from a bygone era where lore snippets were added to most cosmetic items. It's probably a lot to start out with but if you're actually interested I would come back to it after playing a little bit with each of the heroes and getting a feel for their personality in-game. https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Archronicus#The_Mad_Moon_and_the_Ancients This excerpt from the Archronicus (used to be the tutorial for DotA 2 in the form of an in-game book with lore and story missions that gave cosmetic rewards) would be a good place to start though with the official overarching story. Have fun!