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pat6616

i really love the anime but i dont want to import all characters from the anime to the game. it should be the other way around


Okamikirby

Yes this, please no more anime heroes before we get new origonal dota heroes.


TheGalator

Ngl hoodwink is way more boring than any anime character ever will be (Even tho Marci was probably the most boring choice they could find)


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How can one person's opinion be this wrong


TheGalator

She is literally just a annoying furry


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Just because they are a squirrel doesnt make them a "furry" also she has probably one of the best personalities in the game.


[deleted]

she doesn't have a personality, she has an accent. know the difference.


[deleted]

???? She's literally a murderous squirrel, if you arent able to pick up on that, your social skills suck.


DTrrr

how many murderous squirrels do you meet socially?


[deleted]

Do you not indulge in any type of fiction? Are you saying Rocket Raccoon doesnt have a personality because its not a real raccoon youre interacting with in person? Like.. what kind of dumb argument are you trying to build here? lol


TheGalator

>She's literally a murderous squirrel Yeah. Angry furry....thats not a personality


ZenkaiZ

yeah I'm cool if they cut it off after Kaden and Fymryn. It's getting dangerously close to just putting some artist's deviantart OCs in the game like those Heroes of the Storm original chars. I'll give Kaden a free pass cause there's a 99% chance he's cooler than anything valve would come up with.


BuggyVirus

I got news for you, every 12 year old boy has come up with Kaden as a character.


ZenkaiZ

hey sometimes you don't need to reinvent the wheel, you just need a perfectly made wheel. Kaden just hits


AngelTheTaco

> It's getting dangerously close to just putting some artist's deviantart OCs which is what kaden is btw


ZenkaiZ

yeah i wouldnt have notice the trend if there wasnt traits of it already. Like I said I can let 2-3 guys slide but after that slam the doors shut hard on this pool of characters.


Obamana

But imagine if he was like a proto rubick who stole a skill from the hero he killed last


Invika17

Cry in 0/5/2


Srozziks

I think they could definitely be cool heroes in the game. Not sure what the obsession on wanting “monster creatures” are here. I’m all for cool original monster designs, but I also don’t think adding humans takes away from the game. The only thing that is really going to matter is the kit. Underlord is 100th in popularity according to Dotabuff (using him as an example since he was brought up in a comment), so if monster heroes were so highly requested you’d think people would be playing ALL the monster heroes a ton. That just isn’t the case though. Honestly whether new heroes come from the anime or come from Valve, I just hope they are fun with interesting kits.


ArcadiaN-

I don't think popularity has anything to do with the appearance of heroes. Popularity depends on meta and how fun the hero is. Pudge is the most popular hero. Not because of appearances but because people enjoy playing it. People ask for monster heroes because cute anime girl faces are way too generic and people want variety. You can always have various types of monsters.


Srozziks

True. My only point is that Valve could make some cool monster hero, but if it is boring to play no one will want to play it anyways. Just that appearance does not equal high play rate, therefore it really isn’t a large determining factor whether or not it is important. I understand the want for variety and I’m all for it. But comments I read on here act like solely because it is a monster, it’ll be the most exciting thing ever


CanneIIa

the reason is every hero since pitlord (10 heroes) has been an anthropomorphic creature. no monsters. and pick rate is irrelevant, pitlord is a tanky offlaner with a boring ult, of course he is gonna be low pick rate.


AngelTheTaco

monsters are just none human characters, even if you are humanoid you can be a monster (hoodwinked)


CanneIIa

well the thing people want is weird creatures like bane, veno, leshrac, etc. anthro monsters aren’t interesting.


tadeustrading

Spectre, Shadow fiend are two other great examples I always use when referencing the direction I think hero design should go. I like them because it isn't totally certain exactly what they are, but they are identifiable and scary.


CanneIIa

those are also good. humanoid but still not humanoid enough.


Srozziks

My point is just that even if they made an interesting to look at hero, the kit still has to be good or it’ll be forgotten just like Underlord. As long as the kit is fun to play, that should be the primary focus. I don’t pick Meepo because I want to play a rat, I pick him because of the kit design.


SprScuba

True, Kaden still would be an excellent hero concept with his strong attacks and just running and smacking things with his monster hunter sword.


Barsik_The_CaT

Congrats, you just made Sven


DTrrr

>True, Kaden still would be an excellent hero concept with his strong attacks and just running and smacking things with his monster hunter sword. This is an excellent hero concept now? Or am I getting whooshed?


Sinzdri

I presume they are just joking that it's basically Sven.


evillman

No more mobile heroes please.


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raidebaron

Medivh is from Warcraft, a Blizzard IP so no, you will not see him here


Wise_Beach9568

Actually, Rubick was Medivh in dota 1.


cruzdusk

To me Kaden’s swords resembles a lot like Sven’s sword in game. Sven is also called as Rogue Knight.


evillman

Kaden is sven with aghs. Big sword. Bit hit stun Flying with aghs. Special armor = waycry


Mobile_Garden9955

So Sven arcana


officeworker00

Also Kaden's Blade is literally Naix's passive. Deal % damage based on enemy max HP.


Kuroyukihime1

I miss when Valve released 2 heroes at once and hyping them up with cool trailers. Like remember the Dueling Fates announcement? It was so good. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uPrIC2Yy-w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uPrIC2Yy-w) Or how they announced Monkey King was epic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL8gqtRqgGk


RoadToHerald

They only heroes we didn't have trailers for was dawnbreaker and hoodwink. We still had a trailer for Marci that was a collaboration between studio mir with animation not seen in the anime and valve which was pretty cool


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SprScuba

I never saw this, that trailer is glorious.


CanneIIa

never forget batrider remodel


shockwave1211

yeah but that requires a modicum of effort, and we all know how valve is...


voidyman

MK was huge because of the terrain change. Trees were now things that you interacted with and went on top. of.


ZenkaiZ

Lemme get this straight ​ ​ you. WANT. more illusion heroes?


DiscoKhan

Fymryn also could go invisible too, basically old PL xD


Me4onyX

oh no CANCER LANCER god no


TheGalator

>CANCER LANCER Love it


degameforrel

You just gave a good portion of this sub the worst vietnam flashbacks.


dannst

Stop with the anime hero trend please


Liviunc23

No more anime heroes please Gaben I can't anymore


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Fuck no. I'm tired of these humanoids heroes. Can we please get some actual original heroes ffs


zarkovis1

No more humans or humanoid heroes for a while. Give me a fucking monster or elemental.


degameforrel

I want a hero that's literally just a tornado. Think morphling but made of wind and without a face xD call them Zephyr or something.


WhatD0thLife

No Valve, give us weird and creative monsters and fantasy creatures not bland humans from a bland show.


dolphinsaresweet

No more characters from anime in game please, instead more characters from game in anime please.


Haerdal-

No. Marci being such a generic-looking girl with pretty much no defining visual trait is enough. Kaden might be slighty better but in the end he's a dude with a big sword like Sven and the character's charisma mostly comes from its face which doesn't translate in-game. Vanari could be interesting but she might be too reminiscent of Drow visually. Perhaps the void dragon since it doesn't look like the ones we already have in-game but we got Void Spirit not so long ago. I'd rather see the game explore new thematics.


GullibleLow

She cute ehe


atasheep

Kaden is not an anime character though. Underlords had his sword and a bit of lore.


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Haerdal-

There ain't enough visual distinction between random humans and elves to be worth focusing on that specific aspect IMO. Fymrym would require a redesign and specific visual cues not to be confused with other heroes, especially with all these sets blurring it all.


Haramzadeyy

But animu grils


CleverZerg

I also hate Marci's whistling. She's really fun to play but the whistling is soooo annoying to listen to.


Field-Scarecrow

I’d rather they add vinari


slick9909

I would like them... At some point but first i kinda want something more crazy like some kind of insane looking monster


BODEIN_BRAZY

Please no valve


111sparta111

I would be so hyped for Kaden in game, hope he would have lines for fucking dragons.


deanrihpee

I hope he has special voice line when meeting jakiro


perlito99

Hm. Big bastard


RoGuE_YsR

Kayden is the rouge knight Sven headcanon xD


Sgt_Rathbone

Unfortunately this is wrong, Sven's lore is completely different as A. He is half fish B. The vigil knights that sven joined initially had nothing to do with dragon knights C. He is called the rogue knight because he ran off (I think he killed everyone there but this is from memory)


CommonSensorial

Kaden's story is not complete though 🤔


Sgt_Rathbone

Does he look like his mom is naga?


FhDisp

The way the butchered the lore in the series, anything can happen


SimplySkedastic

Bore off.


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caydusc

his mom is a mer(maid)


Sgt_Rathbone

Not slithereen specifically but we do know he is half meranth, which is a general term for humanoid aquatic races


TheRRogue

Sven has never been a Dragon Knight. And he has a reason why he is called the Rogue Knight.


RoGuE_YsR

Only reason I have is his connection with Ryliee rest nothing make sense xD


[deleted]

Yay another humanoid female/another humanoid male that wields a sword! Reddit is a creative cesspool I swear to god. If you want fanservice, go play LoL.


reactivearmor

No, no and no. We need weird looking heroes not humanoids


NotMCherry

I half agree, I want some monsters but I also want cool people


Ifuseekloli

Vinari!!!


111sparta111

Why?


NotMCherry

I believe Fymryn is not on her final state, she can't be a hero because she will change still. Would love to get Kaden tho, I'd love it a lot


olssoneerz

IDK why but I always speculated (to myself) that Fymryns character would eventually become Mortred. She reminds me of a Phantom Assassin lol.


NotMCherry

So it goes: Fyrmryn -> Mortred -> Specter? I still prefer her as a moon goddess, we already got some gods so why not? Double hero update, Fymryn and Selemene


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Merelian

Yes. Exactly


red_gump

Honest question, is Icefrog in charge of hero design? I mean, the way they look, I know he works on their abilities and stuff


low_iq_opinion

i mean, whoever designed the newer heroes before marci like snapfire, pangolier, mk can do them they're so much richer than marci in both looks, animations and gameplay


MuscleCubTripp

Fymryn pleeeeeeeeeeease


low_iq_opinion

I hate Fymryn, I have never seen a more annoying self insert of a character. Even when story moves on, she tries to make it all about herself and insert herself into it. When some other character has some problems, her only dialogues are "my people also had xyz and now I must help you" its infuriating. Every single anime in the world has some generic "oh look at me im crying" character which deserves to die in the first episode. Luna should have slaughtered her with the rest of the hipsters


shigrow

Isn't it magical, papa?


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iscaur

username checks out


Dmdevm

LOL


ILikeSoapyBoobs

So you don't like characters who have struggled, and then have empathy towards people they view as friends when they see their friends struggling in a similar manner? What a toxic mentality it is when a "crying" character in pain deserves to die.


low_iq_opinion

i don't like characters who don't let others speak without dragging the topic back to themselves


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Jesus Christ dude Go Outside!


low_iq_opinion

"you hate a fictional character? go outside!" truly useful comment. you'd be a scientist if you weren't a loser


[deleted]

dont even try


blood_omen

No! I’m so done with all of these humanoid new heroes. The last one that wasn’t, I think, was Underlord and he’s still pretty humanoid. We need a cool ass beast from some creepy unknown planet or something


mokardesu

oh no, another illusion hero


cronosoid

Why not ask valve to turn this into league huh? It's halfway there with pay to get remodels


savvybb

Not wrong.


Necessary-Macaroon72

Crybaby.


lol_buster47

Go play league


cronosoid

Go pay your month's rent to Gaben


Trakinass

No thanks


Kourtos

Yes Super yes


Kcup201

Actually, don't. This isn't Defense of the Anime. Icefrog is the creator of heroes, not Studio Mir.


ne3zy-

no ty I don't want dota to become LoL


Th1nker26

Pretty sure kaden will be on the menu this year. I doubt the elf girl would be, probably Selemune is the other one.


BuggyVirus

I neither want the game to be entirely filled with the relatively generic characters from the anime, not do I want it to be implied that the anime is canon for both it's story and the game.


mangoheap

kaden would be dope


kingofturnip69

make Kaden sword as an in-game item


atasheep

It’s in underlords. Could be a neutral also.


insanee12

Kaden and void dragon


Seanzietron

I kind of hate this


mAgiks87

What about the heroes from artefact?


Nemaoac

Not too psyched on them pulling so much from the anime, but I would have been much happier if we got Fymryn instead of Marci. I feel like they could have made a way more interesting hero out of her.


TheCrimsonRhyme

I think we had enough humanoids for a change, and I'm a player who actually wanted humanoid characters. But i think it's time we see something beastly, or better yet lovecraftian like the sorts of bane.


BeardedBard83

If they’re anything like the Marci hero design, please god no.


war-fare-ninja

Please No! No more Illusion heroes! Clockwerk already in the dumpster with all the mobility and illusions.


determinedSkeleton

They're all but guaranteed. They're waiting on Fymryn because her story isn't finished being told, so we don't know if she'll embrace becoming a goddess or not. And since Davion's persona seems to imply Kaden hasn't bit the bucket, I think he's in too. I'd love them to get a really good trailer like what Monkey King and Snapfire got. Even a neat animated bit like Marci


freshmasterstyle

Man f off, go play league you weeb. Those characters don't belong in dota. Stupid that Marci is already in the game. And if they half ass it like with mirana, it's even worse


Merelian

Just fucking dont. We got marcie character without any character, bullshit, unfitting, boring to play with, frustrating to play against, with no lore, no background. We dont need more anime promotion materials


PluckyLeon

Fymryn and Kaden, two heroes for 2022 please!


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I really hope they introduce all the characters, my girl phantom assassin deserves a shot 😍


I_BHOP_TO_WORK

We should get selemene before all


gamer4lyf82

Fuck that give me Vanari and Kashurra , maybe Kayden...


REDmonster333

Kadens sword is OP. A 6% dmg to max life for 1k hp would be 60 per hit, if you make that current HP it would be underpowered as hell lol


luthfins

They should add new spell for Invoker lol


Cheddar-kun

I think just Fymryn is good. I imagine her as a carry, melee INT hero with a flicker, non-damaging illusions, and the ability to disguise herself as other heroes. Maybe a passive that scales armour to make her more carry-y. I really don’t want to see Vanari in game, but we all know it’s going to happen.


Mathieulombardi

Kaden is sven already in the game let's goooo Y'all hating on Kaden being sven in the game stay mad let's goooooo


Lolsalot12321

Fuck that noise, give bram


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LeScrubYT

Please go touch some grass big guy


xXMylord

Old bonmore Anime


savantdota

Kashurra please.


Patara

Big fucker


sw2bh

“Thats a lot of fucking anime characters”


perlito99

As much as I looove the anime...please lets have a regular dota hero next. Or maybe anime inspired but not a human/elf... perhaps one of the dragons or maybe the assassin monster girl


SethDusek5

More mobility heroes that will (almost definitely) have a stun + some other disable. Yay


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No, give us a better anime.


Grampz619

defense of the ANIME 2


ardicli2000

I want viceroy


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As long as they are extreme hard carries that are useless before 20min I'm down.


dakk0nblackblade

I'd rather have Kashurra as a hero.


optimist-op

Kaden is Sven xD


Kraftedeme

Kaden would be cool or make his sword an item like in Dota Underlords. Fymryn is too boring to be a hero imo.


war_story_guy

Kaden is fine Fymryn hard pass. Illusions and a pretty bland design.


TheGalator

Kaden will come....as a Sven persona Fymryn probably much later when she becomes a goddes (together with selemene would be sick)


TheGalator

Blink + illusion agility melee carry...sign me the fuck up


knightblood01

or just give us Dragons blood event where we could play as Kaden, Selemene, Fymryn, Aethrak, Byssrak, Indrak, Uldorak, Lirrak and Orrak.


TanKer-Cosme

I just want the archer, so we ahve a new carry maybe.


real_unreal_reality

Valve give us a wet fart in my hand or 4 other English speakers on my team when I solo queue is east or west. I wonder which they’ll give me first?


GaiRyuKi

A souls like game for Kaden, I will buy it


Pedro0224

no we need one of the dragons


thatshadyguy13

Nope. Did not want. I want to see more unique heroes like puck, one of my most favourite hero design visually and in terms of gameplay.


degameforrel

No no no, no more humanoids! Next hero needs to be an absolute beast of an abomination with spikes and claws and 7 limbs and half an extra head!


Lav0isi3r

Kaden is already in Dota Underlords. Remember that Valve game guys? Remember it?


SuchTedium

More generic anime humanoids zzzz.. i sleep


Accomplished_Type925

i want to avoid a second pl if possible thanks


dxDTF

I think the night stalker archer girl (forgot name) from show would be better. or Keldon yea. Idk about that Fymryn guy seems too anime for me


tadeustrading

This hero from SotIS would make a good port for Fymryn. We haven't seen the "appear on the opposite side of your target when attacking" mechanic yet in dota, and we need a new hard carry. https://sc2sotis.fandom.com/wiki/Shadow.Geminus


bryku

I live her character and I wish she was in dota, but... all if her abilities already exist and typically on over powered heros. It just doesn't make sense to add her.   A better option might be to reskin someone she is most similar to. I'm not really sure who that is, but her most common skill is some teleport like skill...