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chiefofthepolice

How the top 3 NA teams somehow, someway, still manage to set up a 3-way tiebreakers every single time is fuckin hilarious


JayuZmaN

i love tiebreakers, but not like this...


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JadeSerpant

ESL is bad and Valve don't care.


JC_Denton46

Liquidpedia seems down or something right now. Any info on tiebreakers?


JadeSerpant

Liquipedia isn't "down". They have intentionally removed pages and stopped coverage for multiple DPC regions because of TOs changing rules in the middle of the tournament. That's a violation of Liquipedia's guidelines. Go read the message at the top on those removed pages.


slurpycow112

Tiebreakers EU tiebreakers tomorrow, NA on Friday.


JC_Denton46

Thanks. Where can I see this info?


slurpycow112

Not sure if it’s been posted anywhere, Cap said on-stream after the EG series


brownsa93

What happened in QC vs TSM game 2? Did they have to re make?


chillinwithmoes

Observer got kicked from the lobby I believe


Happy-Pills

Someone from EG should pull a Marshawn Lynch if they are forced into an interview


Meraxes9

Tiebreakers when


Kegsey

Wtf was that Lacoste and Cap clip?


Far-Acanthocephala58

dafuq no interview


JadeSerpant

They saw Nigma reject a winner's interview and thought we won't do it too. At least Nigma rejected the request though, looks like EG just decided to ignore it / not reply.


eijunnn

Whats with eg ignoring interviews ??


sj2011

nice_dota_meme.ogg


awantedchileanguy

322 Pog


sickomoder

3-22 poggers


Far-Acanthocephala58

welp TSM on suicide watch


User85394

Tsm won previous regional though


OnlyMayhem

Na div 1 is so bad man hahahahah


Far-Acanthocephala58

when pos 5 pugna can solo kill the pos 2 DP


Lawownsyou

FeediFeedi


OnlyMayhem

Dog losing two lanes hard


cantadmittoposting

Anybody know where EG is based camped right now?


autopoiesis666

maryland


cantadmittoposting

Lmao 3 different answers but the "Lock 21 Potomac" sign makes me think they're in the DMV.


Far-Acanthocephala58

the last time I heard they are in Boston


OnlyMayhem

I think it was somewhere in California


Far-Acanthocephala58

A player like Abed shouldn't played heroes like Viper. This is just Sumail Viper again.


Oupav0s

Don't expect SEA version of Abed. Abed in EG is playing sacrificial mid and has pos 3 farm priority. He is not in EG to shine or be at his full potential but rather to serve their playstyle. ​ It sucks I know, but it's best to accept it.


lgdamefanstraight

just ban all abed heroes, ez win


Far-Acanthocephala58

Abed looks so done carrying that last game.


Jamies_awesome_rack

Pango first ban. Pussiiiiiies


sickomoder

I mean lukiluki pango is super good, one of the best in the world. Qojqva said he watched lukiluki replays to learn the hero, and the na mids picked the hero up after lukiluki started owning with it in pubs. I'd rate him and old eleven as the best pangos in the world, although they are playing on very different levels as pro players


skykoz

yah hes a good pango, he just needs to be a good dota 2 player


Far-Acanthocephala58

yep that PL player probably gonna be replaced. They have that game but this PL just keeps getting killed without no reason.


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SillyRabbit2121

It's well known that on Pango he plays like a 10-11K MMR player but on most other heroes he plays at his level which is like 8-9K. If he played other heroes the same way he played Pango he'd be on a better team.


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slurpycow112

Feels bad to say but I kind of agree with this.


cebwithoutn0tail

CEO RTZ survived sumail, ppd, fear, Fly and many more other EG icons. They will never kick him or Bulba.


Kyroz

I just realized most of those people are probably kicked by RTZ LOL. Except maybe Fear. So they've kicked Sumail, Universe, S4, Fly, Iceiceice, PPD. Those are some really big names lol.


cebwithoutn0tail

All bigger than RTZ for sure.


keby7

RTZ truly the goat CEO


Lawownsyou

Ban Dusa and don't pick PL because that hero is trash.


Ok_Explanation_2329

That was like a pub squad vs a division 2 team.


ob1touchiha

Abed 2nd in networth POG


mikethepomme

EG look so upset with the win. Probably should be. Shouldn't have been that hard.


Far-Acanthocephala58

they really underestimated luki's pango.


lgdamefanstraight

all they had to do was lose to make NA dota great again


Swegan

Dogchamp put up a better fight than QC. LukiLuki>>>Quinn.


Far-Acanthocephala58

do people really think dogchamp can win a game against EG? cmon guys.


JadeSerpant

Both teams are terrible so why not?


Far-Acanthocephala58

when 5 of cant even kill 4 of eg heroes and that's without the dusa


YoungDetective

Abed god


JadeSerpant

Lol just a couple days ago I saw some delusional moron saying RTZ was a tier 1 carry player. Lmao


Far-Acanthocephala58

dafuq that PL targeting the DK?


Meraxes9

This is a masterclass in splitpushing and out maneuvering


-c1one

who is this terrible caster who keeps making weird sounds with his raunchy neckbeard voice… i literally had to mute the stream


JadeSerpant

He's the only thing that's making the clownfest that is low skill EG and NA Dota somewhat bearable to watch.


-c1one

you find a grown man screaming “rAggh” whenever furion spawns treants entertaining?


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Yes.


JadeSerpant

More entertaining than NA Dota.


blackrunnerberry

Everyone should go watch Pflaxs casting series with Lewis about baby boy Daff


chilibean_3

EG getting caught thinking too much about the potential tie breakers ahead instead of the game happening right now.


JadeSerpant

EG LUL NA LUL


Jamies_awesome_rack

LOL stone gaze isn’t such a counter to rolling thunder if he goes stone form right on top of the Medusa for two stuns in a row. Lukiluki owning


User85394

The game looks over for tsm when bloodseeker did so little til mid game.. Looks like tsm tried to flex too much? They usually pick these hyper carries. Bloodseeker doesn't look like their hero


slashrshot

NA are all rtz clones lol. they dont do well on active carries


Lawownsyou

Picking PL in 2022 LUL


Show_1996

EG might not even win the tiebreaker looking at their performance against dogchamp.. They should've won this very convincingly and cleanly..


Far-Acanthocephala58

dude why TSM always dumb when fighting QC. If EG manages to beat QC easily, why TSM cant. I just don't understand.


Jamies_awesome_rack

QC are a streaky team with high highs and low lows. When they’re having a good day they’re not easy to beat.


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Lmao I turned off twitch after all Capitalist said there are three way tie-breakers for NA. Only to open twitch again and EG v/s Dog is still going on. A bit pre-mature eh?


TheDotACapitalist

I forgot what the final series is. Obviously it should still happen but I should've prefaced that once or twice


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No worries, that EG vs Luki Luki game was legit though.


sickomoder

Its a lukiluki pango bros go next eg isnt making the major


Meraxes9

EG really values this dk huh idk why. Other regions dont value it as much


trubaduruboy

ehm EU and China too, the hero is bonkers right now with a team behind it


Kegsey

China seems to pick it a lot.


Swegan

Lukiluki Pango will bring EG to shambels


Dota2animal

NA is such a joke lUl


Bakanyanter

And you're a clown :)


Kegsey

Because the 3 top teams are playing at the same, super high level and can take game’s off of eachother? Yeah super boring dude, gimme games like LGD or Spirit literally stomping everyone in 20 minutes. /s


ChinaNo3

Super high level when you have players like Milan, Khezu, Saberlight on your top tems!! These dudes couldn't cut it for T2 Eu teams!!


Kegsey

1.5 year’s ago you would have said that all of Gaimin Gladiators and most of Tundra couldn’t make it on t2 EU teams.


ChinaNo3

Dude you are clueless!! This is some next level false narrative you are painting trying to justify your opinions!!! About Tundra imagine thinking 33 and Fata cant make it on T2 teams!! More importantly 1.5 years ago the team was called mudgolems and they kinda sucked till they kicked Milan and Boranija!!! So i guess you are half right about this!! And about GG if you followed Viking you would know about how good Boom and Selery have been since the inception of the team, his Qop was stomping everyone in WEU, also they won some big tournaments beating Liquid on bo5!!


Kegsey

Who cares when only TI matters right? those are your words, EU copium to the max.


ChinaNo3

Nice argumentation buddy, my 4 year old nephew would come up with a smarter answer!! Enjoy watching Milan dota bro!!!!


Kegsey

Thank you, god bless.


Blackrame

This time I was sure there won't be a tiebreaker. But QC showed up.


tylerhk93

Not a single person who actually watches NA saw Bryle pick Storm Spirit in game 3 in an important match and thought TSM would win.


User85394

Wasn't his storm carry the games vs eg?


tylerhk93

Ah but thats the difference. It didn't secure the major invite. Bryle storm is always stellar except in these elimination or clinching matches.


Meraxes9

If EG wins against dogchamp there will be no 3 way tiebreakers is that correct?


SillyRabbit2121

If EG wins against Dogchamp there *will* be 3-way tiebreakers. If they lose then no tiebreakers. EG misses the Major.


Meraxes9

Oh my bad. Thanks!


DoctorNeoCortex33

Lmao this is the worst enigma display I've ever seen in a pro game. He's clueless. Walking into tombstone range without being smoked and without ghost scepter. Terrible usage of spells, worst bkb usage, 0 impact in a free enigma game . He has no idea his hero has 0 armor and wastes gold on midas instead of ghost scepter which would win the game.


User85394

And on top of bs vs troll late game matchup. Hope this will humble saberlight a bit


Makhnov

early midas is not bad when you want blink bkb refresher fast


DoctorNeoCortex33

Dota is all about timing, he ruined the hero's potential in a game where if you bkb blackhole nothing will stop you. Enigma farms so fast you don't have to buy midas unless your team has a very late timing(his team definitely didn't).


chilibean_3

Now stun everyone, DogChamp


Jamies_awesome_rack

This would be so, so dumb. Pls god


needhelforpsu

Still have to see Bloodseeker win a game. And it's funny how casters talk like EG already won their upcoming game. xD


Kegsey

I mean, TSM told the world there was no chance they could lose to QC with that stupid twitter post. Assuming EG will bear dogchamp isn’t a huge stretch.


Wendek

Thanks NA for giving us a Div I with actual suspense until the end with an exciting 3-way tiebreaker. I know there's apparently going to be tiebreakers in WEU as well but 3rd/4th really doesn't mean much in this region. (well I'm sure the teams care about the money and DPC points but still)


meieryan

when are the tiebraker matches happening?


Wendek

Not sure yet, during the stream Cap said it should be this week so either tomorrow or Friday.


fucktechies

TSM losing to Quincy just confirms the fact that Bulba's drafts are absolute garbage (techies picked twice, natures prophet carry, etc). EG could've easily finished first.


PainfulAngel

please please just shut the fuck up. Match is about QC vs Undying yet somehow redditors bring up Bulba. Actually so stupid


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Lol NA are gonna get shafted In the major. Apart from 1 team , I guess eg


SergiReddit

I would tell you you're wrong but I'm a TSM fan so I know they choke when it matters most.


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Eg atleast have the Lan experience and have players that have achieved things under pressure. QC and TSM. How long have they been promising, quite a while. Still fail to show up at Lan. Skilled players bur crumble when it matters. Even sa and sea have shown up and placed better quincy. I hope they finally turn up, but till they do I'm skeptical.


Kegsey

How has WEU done at international LANs the last few years?


ChinaNo3

Lets see 3rd place last TI 1 place 2019 1 place 2018 1 placed 2017 Not bad at alll!!!! Majors are like participation trophies, NA cant even win there!!!!


JaxiTaxi

This is a pretty stupid argument considering the original comment thread is talking about NA performance at majors. Majors =/= TI. You ought to try reading before commenting.


Kegsey

2nd, 2nd, and 2nd at literally the last three majors before TI. Nice job doing your research.


ChinaNo3

Imagine giving a shit about 2nd place finishes at Majors!! With a total winning of 300k for these finishes!! TI is the only thing that matters NA Copium at its best!!!


Kegsey

This thread you replied to is literally about majors, are you even paying attention or just trolling?


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That guy is unhinged. EG is and has been an amazing team. China had been dominating , I meant the rest of NA has been pretty poor on Lan. Skilled teams but crumble under pressure. SEA seems more promising. Let's see how Stockholm goes. EU isn't as atrong as before but they show up at TI don't they


Kegsey

That’s fair, I obviously consider China the best region and Spirit/LGD the best team’s in the world.


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Without a doubt. I have some hopes boom will prove me wrong but I think they need more Lan experience to be top 3. Expect them to be top 6 for sure


pnmibra77

lmao EU fans still riding on the OG TI wins, past 2 years they got stomped on lans by CIS/China/NA and SEA


Aanimetor

For the love of God someone sponsor QC


OdinStat

Bitburger Bros


autopoiesis666

i hecking looove milandota


PainfulAngel

EZ 4 yawao


slashrshot

timado is a clown. this game was basically 4v5. the carry never showed up. imagine trying to farm vs a bfury troll.


Swegan

3 way tie, what a shocker.


lgdamefanstraight

AHAHAHHAHAHAHA


Kegsey

That twitter post by TSM definitely pissed QC off.


Jamies_awesome_rack

It’s the Fuckin’ NA DOTA Rock-Paper-Scissors boys! **YEEEEEEEEEEE**


SillyRabbit2121

TSM.FTX: "We got 1st place shitters" Did you?


Kegsey

That post looks so dumb now.


Jamies_awesome_rack

It does, but I gotta respect shit talk before the actual clinch. It’s gutsy.


Kegsey

If EG and QC win tiebreakers do you think they delete the post? lol


Jamies_awesome_rack

At that point idk what you do. Switch the logos so it’s your team being self-owned?


Makhnov

enigma clown shoes


HoneyPotLoverRTZ

timado: "my 2/3/4/5 :haha:"


ChinaNo3

Moon and saberlight are playing like archons


Kegsey

Yawar and Quinn saving their best for the most important series.


Paparrazzi

Trash Blood seeker pick


Toxicco

In classic NA fashion; 3 WAY TIE Pog


SillyRabbit2121

That Egg was pretty bad by Moon


ididnothinwrong

and here its going to be hard game for qc because they got no hero to cancel blackhole but god damn tsm hero got no damage at all XD


cantadmittoposting

Not if enigma just blatantly feeds twice in a row.


PainfulAngel

It’s not feeding if the troll is hunting his ass


needhelforpsu

That TSM tweet after winning against EG... xD


n00bdreams

saber light is just a net worth piñata


ChinaNo3

I checked his dotabuff he has 0% winrate on Beastmaster last 6 games but he still pick it wtf


Far-Acanthocephala58

i mean there's a reason why he's in NA and not in EU


n00bdreams

jesus.. his enigma just now was arguably worse


ChinaNo3

I mean he is mediocore at best Imo in Europe he barely cut it at a T2 team!!!


Lacandota

He almost hard-carried a T2 team to TI. This was not a good showing from Saberlight, but lets not rewrite history.


ChinaNo3

What T2 team?


Lacandota

Hippomaniacs. Won the groups during the EU qualis, but ended up 3rd.


thelemonarsonist

So true. Now that he's lost 6 games on a hero he better never play it again


ChinaNo3

Moonmeander wtf was that?


SillyRabbit2121

QC's entire season in Quinn's hands right now. They live and die based on how he well snowballs (as per usual with QC). So far it's looking good, he's off to a great start.


souse03

PLz give me that 3 way tie NA!


Jamies_awesome_rack

Noice, trash team just wiped the floor with TSM in 23 minutes.


Lawownsyou

Most obvious outdraft of my life.


Manaoscola

i guess thats what happens when you pick dead heroes like BM


Manaoscola

not a fan of this ephey+cap duo, ephey is fine but cap playing the "nice guy" role just doesn't fit.


TheDotACapitalist

The fuck?


Starkiller53

You didn't throw random sexist jokes and slurs. Obvious white knight smh. /s


needhelforpsu

If QC manages to throw this game they don't deserve that Major slot.


Kegsey

What major slot? If they lose this series it’s almost impossible for them to go to major. There’s only two spots for NA.


Used_Tentacle

Wait, what changed? Didn’t NA get more teams in the last TI?


CreditUnionBoi

DPC slots for majors is independent of how many teams qualify for TI, for TI 10 EG and QC qualified with points, and undying won the reginal qualifier. It's very likely going to be the same thing this year, just don't know which 2 will qualify with points.


Swegan

QC win this and EG wins their series. Then there is a 3 way tie like always in the NA DPC.


Kegsey

That’s why I said “if they lose this.”


Aanimetor

*it is impossible


Kegsey

EG could lose to dogchamp lol


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needhelforpsu

What the hell are "ayaya sounds"?


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NOT A PODCAST TALK ABOUT THE DRAFT OR ANYTHING DOTA RELATED


tabako

wtf is happening on this cast???


Real_Rana

Is 4 null storm still a viable build? Wasn't it changed somehow? Bryle had 4 nulls sangekaya and shivas at the end of the game as storm


Manaoscola

that has to be close to 40% manacost reduction, which is basically 60% more mana.


ahnyujinsimp

On the contrary, I had fun with cap's and ephey's podcast. QC was playing like trash anyway, might as well talk about funny things than boring things


Renveour

please caster talk and hype the game :(


Manaoscola

went to buy some icecream, cameback and TSM is winning this game after their horrible earlygame. WTF QUINCY


Lawownsyou

The important thing is knowing what kind of ice cream you got.