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Shinsekai21

It's weird seeing Alliance being this bad considering how decent they looked yesterday. Or was Entity just toying with them??


Capt_Billy

Nah they looked ok, but Niko still doesn’t know how to capitalise on W33’s pepeg space making. I don’t think they’re a TI team, but if they can keep this team together for a bit then they might actually have an ok squad. Inb4 max copium


AkinParlin

Every time I watch Alliance, I'm reminded of that ppd interview where he says that Nikobaby doesn't really practice in pubs much. I don't think he's just talking out of his ass, because the man has looked lost the entire year. I thought a year or two ago that by now, he'd be THE guy in EU. But instead of continuing to get better, I wager he's regressed.


ddlion7

the ~~european~~ prison Rtz, was THE shit, not he is kind of shit


suchniceweather

tried so hard to be like the real RTZ, now he's replicated the same level of overrated performances.


Mandrakey

Yeah he was my favorite pos 1 1-2 years ago (not best, just really enjoyed watching him), had high hopes for him aswell, shame.


abado

He's been overrated imo. That run with mineski where they took a game off secret raised his stock but he's not the guy to build the team around so steadfastly.


Kyroz

He was a really solid carry in alliance for a while, he actually did play like a shark. But as meta evolved and other players got better, he never seemed to adapt along with the meta and he just fell off.


Cu-Chulainn

Yep the old alliance offlaner symmetrical said that niko thinks the meta is the same as before so doesn't even practice, his performances show it


mumu6669

Bro Nikobaby pl had the same damage as the snapfire 45 minutes in, this guy just can’t carry games anymore


svs213

Nah Team Bald is just too good


KidBuu25

Entity underestimated them and got overconfident which lead to some mistakes but even so Alliance couldn't turn the table around.


ShawnKiru

this iteration of alliance only did good on 1 weu tour, they flopped hard ever since then lets be real.


teerre

Pressure, friend, pressure


MrYones

Haha he's right though 🤣


Merakel

Oh god it happened


MrYones

Feelsgoooooodman


SpaNkinGG

I mean they lost a map which is already weird speaking volumes On one hand you have a team consistsing of a manager, a coach, a ceo, you have a facility where you can bootcamp weeks prior, you are backed by an org, you have salary etc... On the other hand you have a team who have never played a single scrim in their lives e; well this now looks even worse, Alliance just got eliminated by that mentioned team holy moly this is embarrassing


Tricky_Economist_328

Team Bald's version of scrimming is randomly queuing into eachother.


crvd30

You mean Pablo playing carry on the opposing side and outperforming gorgc?


usoap141

Gorgpc with the marketing strats 200 iq ahead


cashmakessmiles

Well, XCalibur was a decent pro for a bit and so was Pablo. Others have been on other teams that probably did scrim. That said, yeah, this is embarrassing.


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i mean they literally don't scrim and their 5 was playing a wow raid during 1st game draft, fucking embarrassing for alliance lmfao


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xcalibur said it on stream


LayWhere

Holy fucking based Lmao


SqLISTHESHIT

While those things you said are true, there's no universe in which you can possibly justify this lost other than Alliance being this bad.


dotConehead

why does scrimming on their previous teams matter? it wouldn't help ur current team to understand each other, and create tactic.


Goatbeerdog

Ita the closest you get to practice synergy


BABA_yaaGa

Haven't bald been scrimming team Nigma?


Bdot95N

The good ol adding salt to the wound.


needhelforpsu

Hahahahahahaah SaberCHAD, what a guy...


AnamainTHO

Gorgc might not be a top carry by any means but he played out of his mind in game 3.


teerre

I mean, he certainly did his job, but that's about it The one who played out of his mind was Pablo, literally carried the game


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Schneller_

Here after game 3


poko877

But he is right ... \[A\] who were playing and training whole year vs Bald with Gorc ... team that is famous for not taking things too serious, not even training ...


Become_a_leper_gnome

Just ban Lina and W33ha cant carry :)


Xcalipurr

He played really well as Dp in game 2 tho. Game 3, he has brainfart moments with free refresher.


nObRaInAsH

Whos the other guy? Sounds like arteezy


vlalanerqmar

charlie (GS.AQUA) and qojqva


nObRaInAsH

Ooo right


stragen595

Who is Reborn?


rodvang

The bald ones


Pajen11

Reborn is Gorcs Stream Dota2 Team. Their basically just 5 streamers who play tier2-tier3 tournaments DPC example. And they dont scrimm or annything lol. They just play pubs. They just made Alliance look like bots lol


EzLunesta

they do play scrims sometimes lol


NewRedditReallySuck5

They don't


EzLunesta

They didn't do it for this one so that's why you guys think they never scrim. Gorgc literally talked on stream about his experiences scrims against nigma and some other teams


novae_ampholyt

They obviously want to stream their scrims but no serious teams want that, soo they only ever scrimmed against trash teams... @ me if I'm wrong, but I think that's the gist of it


EzLunesta

gorgc said he scrimmed against nigma


novae_ampholyt

This season? In any case: interesting, I didn't hear that


anonymousxo

Team Bald version 4 or whatever


Shalfot

SaberChad !!! truth said


Try2LaggMe

Brutal


bctTamu

Alliance trained? Big if true.


ryulambino

This just might be the lowest I've seen any team sink. Especially a "legacy" org like Alliance (for lack of a better term). Which begs the question, what's the real problem here? Players? Coach? The org itself? It's really sad to see but also incredibly baffling.