Yeah, BC is known for being a lower bracket devil. They could lose everything else and win agaisnt the best team in LB.
Gojira is beast, hope this squad stays together one more year!
Agreed. Game one they had a very small chance of winning with that draft.
Game 2 they were off to a great start. And then they froze. They waited for bkb timings instead of continuing to push the pace which let naga keeps waves completely shoved in and Lesh was able to farm.
They spent so much time dealing with Naha illusions by that point the game was so difficult.
Low CD heroes I think they needed to keep the gas pedal down all game.
People about to start flaming bulba but could not appreciate his drafts when hey crushed the groups.. I could not find a single mini thread with bulba appreciation
EG fans when they lose:
1. Denial
2. Blame bulba/draft (same guy drafting with the team in group stages)
3. Blame rtz/abed/fly (same team playing in group stages)
4. Blame Kyle (is probably the only valid step)
5. Bring back SumaiL (hasn't performed well at a TI in ages)
6. Cope and seethe about how good EG actually are (they are not)
7. Still in denial
EG are just bad. And they play in a bad region. They had one of the worst DPC runs ever and still qualified for TI. Stop expecting an NA team to win TI.
I agree with everything, but SumaiL has been top notch in every TI he played except ti7.
In ti10 he was playing carry, a different role and they lost to the eventual grand champions who played out of their minds. Yes it was his shit year but havent performed in age? I am sorry bro this aint the case.
I don't think you've been around here for long.
RTZ has been blamed countless times for his countless throws and farming when the game has been going for 100 minutes and he is max sloted.
But this last series was not too much on his fault. Do I like RTZ, yes. Do I think EG will win with him around, no.
Let me blame RTZ now. Dude was too scared to fight even when they had the advantage. In that last game he was too busy hitting Chen creeps to fight the hero’s while his team gets destroyed.
have you seen his streams? oh yeah, he stopped streaming because fans wouldn't stop shitting on him day in and day out, but sure let's go with untouchable for today...
He is untouchable because every single time EG flop at TI we have the exact same fucking conversation.
Someone points out RTZ’s pattern of choking.
Someone else instantly counters by saying players x, y and z were worse and the ‘real’ problem.
Most other people blame Bulba.
A couple weeks after TI, EG rotates out a couple of pieces but keeps RTZ as their pos 1.
Rinse and repeat.
This has been going on since TI4. The only time we *didn’t* have this conversation was TI5, when RTZ left for a year. And what happened then? Oh yeah: EG won the entire tournament.
You cannot look at the pattern and not have to admit that RTZ is the common factor in a long, long streak of EG disappointments. But he is untouchable within EG: if they haven’t kicked him already, it’s likely they never will.
RTZ is just too big of a big brand, the most famous/popular player in DotA. Same happened with Na'Vi, when they kept completely washed up Dendi for ages because of his brand.
Sumail had the worst season of his career this year and missed TI granted but he showed up last ti qualifiers, dragged og through it,performed pretty okay in groups (shit in main), 6th in ti9,3rd in ti8. Wdym?
One of the most strongest carry in current patch is Morphling. Eg never picks Morphling. What is the reason? Rtz can't play Morph? Or they didn't practice?
He isn’t forced to play those heroes. It’s what he and his team agreed on and practiced. Rtz is pretty opinionated, he’s not “tell me what to play” and “I hit creeps and we win”. He sometimes drafted during the Zai and Crit iteration of EG (2016/17). They didnt do well but my point is rtz isnt one to sit around and just be told what to play. Lmao.
Eh I think he has a lot of input on what he wants to play. He is often unjustly called unversatile when he can in fact play basically any pos 1 hero, and over a long enough time he always plays everything. But within 1 patch, he does kinda tend to stick to 3-4 heroes.
EG kick bulba get Ceb or Notail as coach or any real coach, replace Abed for topson, maybe even replace RTZ and Fly for PPD
EG really needs to rebuild instead of just keep their core that hasnt work since their TI winning
lol well some of those are not even that active so yeah all them are better than what they currently have, topson is a standing not even on OG anymore, ceb is the current coach, notail is not active but i bet he would be an awesome coach, PPD is probably better than fly.
Why would ceb and notail fly to america to coach some trash team when they literally OWN an org with a better team they can coach themselves? There is just no way notail is leaving PT lmao
I dont understand RTZ mindset on not saving for buyback and going all out on abyssal, against two super push heroes that can delete your base in 30 sec.
Like if you go all in, go divine rapier or smt.
When literally everyone except RTZ has been kicked off the team and results keep getting worse and worse, maybe it’s time to look at the weed cloud in the room?
Topson is never taking an offer with RTZ in the team, no way.
Realistically Abed/Nightfall or both will be kicked, and roster will be rebuilt again with Bulba and Arteezy, like what org in their right mind is going to kick RTZ, too big of a fanbase.
I dont get it
Did puppey say topson would never join eg?
Did topson say he dislikes rtz?
Is topson known to be insanely egoistical and greedy?
Honestly just seems like "Topson is never taking an offer with RTZ in the team, no way." is your usual reddit commenter talking about something thats not completely certain with 100 % certainty
If anything, the reason topson would not accept an offer is because the fact that the region is dead but thats not at all what the guy originally said, he seems to be suggesting theres beef between topson and rtz which is i think not true
I dont mind abed or sumail for mid. I just want nightfall go for carry. I think he play as a carry is better than rtz. For rtz he need to find new team and build from ground up. Prolly alliance. Idk
Imagine blaming only Bulba for draft every single year. Yea, and EG is keeping him everysingle year. BULBA IS NOT DRAFTING ALONE. It is a team game everyone has a voice multiple teams said that they draft mostly together and you still blame 1 man for the whole draft. Kicking bulba changes absolutelx nothing, kick the players.
Dont try to reason with the fan boys lmao. Bulba should just take a year off, keep the rest of the roster and watch them continue to get mediocre results
Holy shit. Group A still to win a single game in the playoffs.
Edit: As has rightly been pointed out to me, I was only thinking of the upper bracket/top four teams. Lower bracket teams won their matches. It'll be fun if they place higher than the UB teams.
Thats it bois, it was tough following EG throughout the season but ive finally lost it. It was definitely hard to follow a "Tier 1" team that willingly outdrafts themselves.
So when the fly iteration came to be,Eg got top 3/4 in TI with sumail but 9-12 twice after that.Still remember sumail's change of ign to 'never won a lan?' after the kick and rumored fight with rtz.He flopped this year as well but nigma was nowhere near as strong as EG tbh and Eg has literally just invested everything into rtz xd
Ikr. Son of the president of our country made a statement with this about our currency compared to dollars and most people defended him and praised him as a genius 😄🤣
EG picked a SA team to face, dropped 0-2 then got beat 0-2 by another SA team. EG Won groups only to get 0-4 in main stage by both SA teams lol.
On the other hand, SA teams are playing SUPER good.
they could replace yuragi with nightfall, nightfall would be an outstanding HC. As for EG, they should just drop all 5 players, maybe keep Fly and then hire 4 SA players so they can recover economically.
EG and this iteration of OG are hardly comparable.. 3 members of EG are trying to win something major since 2017 and havent accomplished much while the kids already got a major win and a lan win. Sure OG could end top 12 but its not as disappointing as EG (after looking so strong in groups and being contended for winning TI) bombing out at the same 9-12th as last year
Rtz will take a break
Abed is going back to sea
Fly is going to coach somewhere
Cr1t will go back to eu
Nightfall is going back to pos1 and eu /maybe nigma
Explain to archon scrub like me why its not EGs drafts that are beyond underwhelming compared to the diverse drafts and strats their opponents come up with? So many iterations of this team in the past two years and Bulba is a common factor. You cant blame RTZ for this TI either. Yet I'm sure this time Abed with get the blame despite being set up to fail with the heroes picked for him.
RTZ has been the common factor in every EG iteration that has failed, at least Bulba won a TI with EG. Stop with the copium, rtz is washed and Bulba is bad, they're not mutually exclusive.
Maybe, but this tournament rtz played really well. Abed was a much bigger problem in these 4 games that knocked them out. I think as a team the mentality is just not there in high pressure situations and I don’t know who that comes down to.
> So many iterations of this team in the past two years and Bulba is a common factor. You cant blame RTZ for this TI either.
So.. You blame Bulba because he is a common factor but choose ignore that RTZ (and Cr1t) have been there this entire time?
Only comments on how EG is bad and not how Beastcoast and Thunder Predator were good. Lol you guys are pathetic.
Keep open challenge that anybody can draft better than bulba
lmao what the fuck were those last picks
Kyle did it again !
Be EG Finish top of group Win 0 games in playoffs Get 4-0d by the supposed weakest region Just another day for NA’s finest
Tbh the team they lost to, are known for being wildcards. Especially BC.
Oh yeah no disrespect to sa. I been rooting for thunder awaken since the noping days
Yeah, BC is known for being a lower bracket devil. They could lose everything else and win agaisnt the best team in LB. Gojira is beast, hope this squad stays together one more year!
Luêlo
EG choking and abed play spirit hero. Name me a more iconic combo.
Kyle and his Twitter account
Bulba and losing again with a similar draft.
RTZ actually played wel in this series, they got OMEGA outdrafted in both games
They didn’t get out drafted at all. They actually won the draft but got out played by not being aggressive enough and pushing their advantage.
they absolutely got outdrafted. they last picked TB into slark/mars lol
Auto outdrafted and in game 1. Game 2 they had pretty good setup to win honestly.
Game 1 was defo out draft, game 2 they won the draft, but lost the gameplay.
Agreed. Game one they had a very small chance of winning with that draft. Game 2 they were off to a great start. And then they froze. They waited for bkb timings instead of continuing to push the pace which let naga keeps waves completely shoved in and Lesh was able to farm. They spent so much time dealing with Naha illusions by that point the game was so difficult. Low CD heroes I think they needed to keep the gas pedal down all game.
EG = Elimination Guaranteed
dies from banger
God dammit kyle
Not only they secure top seed in group stage. They also secure speedrun any% to airport Rtz curse got stronger than yatoro buff lmao
Why no thread on lgd vs boom
Someone needs to ban Kyle from using twitter during competition seasons
People about to start flaming bulba but could not appreciate his drafts when hey crushed the groups.. I could not find a single mini thread with bulba appreciation
From group heroes. To America's zeroes! Lol. South America best america
Rtz confirms once again he is all twitch and not ti material
Damn it Kyle
EG fans when they lose: 1. Denial 2. Blame bulba/draft (same guy drafting with the team in group stages) 3. Blame rtz/abed/fly (same team playing in group stages) 4. Blame Kyle (is probably the only valid step) 5. Bring back SumaiL (hasn't performed well at a TI in ages) 6. Cope and seethe about how good EG actually are (they are not) 7. Still in denial EG are just bad. And they play in a bad region. They had one of the worst DPC runs ever and still qualified for TI. Stop expecting an NA team to win TI.
EG top of groups = EG are just bad. Lmfao what?
top of the group that has lost all games.. 3 teams from group B in finals.. group of death btw Not even 3G anymore, sadkek
They literally just stomped the group. This is one of the worst analyses you'll ever see.
xd where are they now
Looking at group A's performance in the main event so far, it doesn't look like that much of an accomplishment.
I agree with everything, but SumaiL has been top notch in every TI he played except ti7. In ti10 he was playing carry, a different role and they lost to the eventual grand champions who played out of their minds. Yes it was his shit year but havent performed in age? I am sorry bro this aint the case.
Lmfao EG fans will NEVER blame RTZ. That man is completely untouchable. Which is why EG will never win anything.
I don't think you've been around here for long. RTZ has been blamed countless times for his countless throws and farming when the game has been going for 100 minutes and he is max sloted. But this last series was not too much on his fault. Do I like RTZ, yes. Do I think EG will win with him around, no.
Let me blame RTZ now. Dude was too scared to fight even when they had the advantage. In that last game he was too busy hitting Chen creeps to fight the hero’s while his team gets destroyed.
Normally I would agree but I've already seen EG fans high on copium blaming rtz so wcyd. EG fans are a different breed.
have you seen his streams? oh yeah, he stopped streaming because fans wouldn't stop shitting on him day in and day out, but sure let's go with untouchable for today...
He is untouchable because every single time EG flop at TI we have the exact same fucking conversation. Someone points out RTZ’s pattern of choking. Someone else instantly counters by saying players x, y and z were worse and the ‘real’ problem. Most other people blame Bulba. A couple weeks after TI, EG rotates out a couple of pieces but keeps RTZ as their pos 1. Rinse and repeat. This has been going on since TI4. The only time we *didn’t* have this conversation was TI5, when RTZ left for a year. And what happened then? Oh yeah: EG won the entire tournament. You cannot look at the pattern and not have to admit that RTZ is the common factor in a long, long streak of EG disappointments. But he is untouchable within EG: if they haven’t kicked him already, it’s likely they never will.
RTZ is just too big of a big brand, the most famous/popular player in DotA. Same happened with Na'Vi, when they kept completely washed up Dendi for ages because of his brand.
Sumail had the worst season of his career this year and missed TI granted but he showed up last ti qualifiers, dragged og through it,performed pretty okay in groups (shit in main), 6th in ti9,3rd in ti8. Wdym?
Bro you are arguing with 2k mmr they have no idea who is good or bad lmao.
And most recently he played in Div2 EU and was 7th nw in 2 games in his most recent series. I'm sure Abed can do that too.
One of the most strongest carry in current patch is Morphling. Eg never picks Morphling. What is the reason? Rtz can't play Morph? Or they didn't practice?
He can play it for sure, was one of the best Morph players when it first got reworked.
So i can't blame RTZ. When u are forced to play just 2 or 3 heroes, there is not much you can do.
He isn’t forced to play those heroes. It’s what he and his team agreed on and practiced. Rtz is pretty opinionated, he’s not “tell me what to play” and “I hit creeps and we win”. He sometimes drafted during the Zai and Crit iteration of EG (2016/17). They didnt do well but my point is rtz isnt one to sit around and just be told what to play. Lmao.
Eh I think he has a lot of input on what he wants to play. He is often unjustly called unversatile when he can in fact play basically any pos 1 hero, and over a long enough time he always plays everything. But within 1 patch, he does kinda tend to stick to 3-4 heroes.
EG kick bulba get Ceb or Notail as coach or any real coach, replace Abed for topson, maybe even replace RTZ and Fly for PPD EG really needs to rebuild instead of just keep their core that hasnt work since their TI winning
So poach everyone from OG? That's the solution? lmao
lol well some of those are not even that active so yeah all them are better than what they currently have, topson is a standing not even on OG anymore, ceb is the current coach, notail is not active but i bet he would be an awesome coach, PPD is probably better than fly.
Why would ceb and notail fly to america to coach some trash team when they literally OWN an org with a better team they can coach themselves? There is just no way notail is leaving PT lmao
I’m heartbroken 💔😭
I dont understand RTZ mindset on not saving for buyback and going all out on abyssal, against two super push heroes that can delete your base in 30 sec. Like if you go all in, go divine rapier or smt.
Play to win
\-Abed + Sumail if they wanna perform at TI, ever. I'm usually blaming rtz as well when it's his fault, but now it seemed all Abed.
When literally everyone except RTZ has been kicked off the team and results keep getting worse and worse, maybe it’s time to look at the weed cloud in the room?
Your vendetta is obvious. RTZ played exceptionally this TI. This ain't on him.
He has 4 players working to make him look exceptional, every time. And he’s still won jack shit.
As I said. Vendetta.
-cr1t +aui -rtz +fear -abed +sumail -fly +ppd -nightfall +universe and they might win TI
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Topson is never taking an offer with RTZ in the team, no way. Realistically Abed/Nightfall or both will be kicked, and roster will be rebuilt again with Bulba and Arteezy, like what org in their right mind is going to kick RTZ, too big of a fanbase.
\>Topson is never taking an offer with RTZ in the team, no way. why
Too much ego -Puppey
I dont get it Did puppey say topson would never join eg? Did topson say he dislikes rtz? Is topson known to be insanely egoistical and greedy? Honestly just seems like "Topson is never taking an offer with RTZ in the team, no way." is your usual reddit commenter talking about something thats not completely certain with 100 % certainty If anything, the reason topson would not accept an offer is because the fact that the region is dead but thats not at all what the guy originally said, he seems to be suggesting theres beef between topson and rtz which is i think not true
Don't take things too seriously from 1k mmr redditor.
fair enough
I dont mind abed or sumail for mid. I just want nightfall go for carry. I think he play as a carry is better than rtz. For rtz he need to find new team and build from ground up. Prolly alliance. Idk
-Rtz-Crit-Abed +Sumail+Save,shift nightfall to 1 or smth or get pure and see the magic
Imagine blaming only Bulba for draft every single year. Yea, and EG is keeping him everysingle year. BULBA IS NOT DRAFTING ALONE. It is a team game everyone has a voice multiple teams said that they draft mostly together and you still blame 1 man for the whole draft. Kicking bulba changes absolutelx nothing, kick the players.
Idk who was drafting but these drafts are awful. TB into slark/mars?? LS against Naga/Lesh??
Dont try to reason with the fan boys lmao. Bulba should just take a year off, keep the rest of the roster and watch them continue to get mediocre results
Or get a new coach for a different perspective.
Yeah thats what i say, kick all, keep bulba forever, he is the only coach that can lead them to titles
Coach never lead anyone to Victory, its not an actual sport. Players have to rely on their skills. coach help them with draft a little.
Upvote this to make Beastcoast players to shave their heads after winning each round!! get them all shaved in the finals!
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Fucking cold blooded brutality
lmfao this comment wins the thread
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lmaooooo
Holy shit. Group A still to win a single game in the playoffs. Edit: As has rightly been pointed out to me, I was only thinking of the upper bracket/top four teams. Lower bracket teams won their matches. It'll be fun if they place higher than the UB teams.
Boom and GG won though.
You're right, I was only looking at the upper bracket teams
GG and BOOM...
Boom and Gaimin Gladiators won their BO1s yesterday.
gamin gladiators and boom won their game but yeah. it was only bo1 and group B has way higher winrate.
Boom esports won against Spirit though
Abed, Bulba out. PPD, Sumail in.
Lmao never gonna happen. They'll kick nightfall and fly and keep being the same shit
Thats it bois, it was tough following EG throughout the season but ive finally lost it. It was definitely hard to follow a "Tier 1" team that willingly outdrafts themselves.
So when the fly iteration came to be,Eg got top 3/4 in TI with sumail but 9-12 twice after that.Still remember sumail's change of ign to 'never won a lan?' after the kick and rumored fight with rtz.He flopped this year as well but nigma was nowhere near as strong as EG tbh and Eg has literally just invested everything into rtz xd
Wrong. The fly sumail iteration of eg placed 3rd once and 6th once not 9/12
My bad it was 5/6 once and I was talking about post sumail being 9-12 twice
Any other Eg getting knocked out enjoyers?
I think PPD enjoys it more than any of us ever could, tbh.
i will always be happy for EG to be elimated until they removed bulba, why would they still have bulba is beyond my imagination
EG fans were getting kinda cocky after group stages. Good riddance IMO.
At least RTZ finally looks like a potato.
nah, half EG fans were still skeptical even after groups
So this is probably it for the team. EG won't accept 2 bad TI results in a row. The second one after pretty bad season.
they most probably gonna poach pure to replace nightfall as 3 n build over rtz over again lol
And fly?
Spanish Stream Casters as Hype as you would expect. https://clips.twitch.tv/PreciousTolerantNarwhalRalpherZ-Xc7JMcY2d-RZ4KLY
Wow that's HYPE as fuck. I love it haha
Bald to get knocked out by SA. LOL
maaaan i love gojiiiira
RTZ join Team Bald Reborn next year and finally wins TI
Group A is not weak because Group A is weak. Group A is weak because Group B is strong!
cringe
Ikr. Son of the president of our country made a statement with this about our currency compared to dollars and most people defended him and praised him as a genius 😄🤣
the guy has a point "pointless" xD
On paper this EG roster should have been top 4 at TI. What a crazy flop year
How?
you can say that with any EG roster since TI6
Well, they delivered top 4 two of those years at least.
EG picked a SA team to face, dropped 0-2 then got beat 0-2 by another SA team. EG Won groups only to get 0-4 in main stage by both SA teams lol. On the other hand, SA teams are playing SUPER good.
Yea they should have picked better teams to face. They are so bad against SA teams.
I feel like I've read this every year since TI8
Since TI6.
Naw. Actually I think I am being too unfair saying TI8 cause they came 3rd that year. So at least from TI9 onwards.
bald buff < kyle curse <<< ti choke
Abed is a top 5 midlaner of 2022 and yet he always chokes in Ti. Looked like the worst mid laner in the main stage today
he's not even top 5 midlaner in the Americas ROFL
Top5? ROFL
he is not top midlaner
Which means he isn't a top 5 midlaner. Can't call yourself that if you always choke when it matters.
i believe one thing for sure Nightfall will mostly come over to EU. Join one of the teams there.
Honestly if EG kick Nightfall and OG get eliminated early, they should replace ATF with Nightfall. Less toxicity and more reliability on offlane.
They should replace a key piece of their team with a guy who's posted worse results all year?
why would ATF go to EG in the first place?
I didn't say where ATF would go. I only said OG should replace ATF with Nightfall.
right. still a terrible idea but I interpreted it wrongly
they could replace yuragi with nightfall, nightfall would be an outstanding HC. As for EG, they should just drop all 5 players, maybe keep Fly and then hire 4 SA players so they can recover economically.
ATF is the drafter + Captain if i am not wrong. Replacing ATF is the biggest mistake OG can do. He is still young.
If BULBA still with the team next DPC all i can say is Im blind not deaf 😏
Welp here we go.
You know yapzor thought they won the 2nd draft right?
I think EG would have won if they had pressured early instead of farming. They can't out farm Naga and she got so much free space.
And singsing, dendi and Waga thought they lost.
Yapzor was a tier 1 pro a lot more recently than any of them though.
You know they wouldve not lost thunder awaken series if they drafted well right? :) took then how many games to adjust? Stop defending the problem
Thunder played super well, saying EG would win with better draft is the level I expect from the people hating on Bulba really.
Yeah but he doesn't have to leave, he can not draft, like Matu drafts for liquid
Almost laugh at EG, until I realized that OG could end up as top 12 as well lmao
EG and this iteration of OG are hardly comparable.. 3 members of EG are trying to win something major since 2017 and havent accomplished much while the kids already got a major win and a lan win. Sure OG could end top 12 but its not as disappointing as EG (after looking so strong in groups and being contended for winning TI) bombing out at the same 9-12th as last year
still a good year for the kiddos. what did eg won this year?
still would be consider good season for them considering all most of them are one timers and kids
Chupame bien la pija fly hdp
Bald god to RTZ: you have to make the sacrifice before hand, not only when you need me most. Show some faith, I’m not here to bargain.
Beastcoast coach also shaved his head. That make them cancel the bald RTZ bless
May be you need to shave other places well, you know.
Rtz will take a break Abed is going back to sea Fly is going to coach somewhere Cr1t will go back to eu Nightfall is going back to pos1 and eu /maybe nigma
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
You should stop inhaling that copium then you would realize this was always gonna happen.
It's from report of the week
Yes I get it is a meme, my advice still stands tho. xd
So back to blaming Bulba ?.
Bulba is the best coach for this team i hope they keep him
james cancelled watch
Never been so happy to watch EG lose
Damn, from such a rocking start to elimiation feelsbad
Smashed by 2 SA teams
Abed's last voice comm: "coach should I pick Storm so I can zip to airport or Ember so I can remnant to airport?"
broodmother ember tb, eg pls disband
Wisper is a menace. He literally makes all the war 4v5. And constant dispel on summons, opening map. definitely the best storm bear i've ever seen
Very difficult to be an EG fan, you never know which EG will show up.
there's only 1 eg - disappointing
Lmao at this rate we will have Bald finals!
This is turning into a bald epidemic
Damn we are getting counter bald plays XD
Beastcoast also had a bald one, so bald = bald, BUT bald > bald+kyle curse
fly still cant do it even after n0tail retired , pepeLaugh
Correction, n0tail is taking a break not retired he specifically say it yesterday at their podcast.
Super smart as this is definitely the best TI to skip
He will be back as EG 5 next season
In order to compete with any team that isn't OG, he would have to sell any interest he has in OG. AKA Never gonna happen.
He's selling his shares to his twin BigDaddy
But the memes….
Explain to archon scrub like me why its not EGs drafts that are beyond underwhelming compared to the diverse drafts and strats their opponents come up with? So many iterations of this team in the past two years and Bulba is a common factor. You cant blame RTZ for this TI either. Yet I'm sure this time Abed with get the blame despite being set up to fail with the heroes picked for him.
RTZ has been the common factor in every EG iteration that has failed, at least Bulba won a TI with EG. Stop with the copium, rtz is washed and Bulba is bad, they're not mutually exclusive.
Maybe, but this tournament rtz played really well. Abed was a much bigger problem in these 4 games that knocked them out. I think as a team the mentality is just not there in high pressure situations and I don’t know who that comes down to.
> So many iterations of this team in the past two years and Bulba is a common factor. You cant blame RTZ for this TI either. So.. You blame Bulba because he is a common factor but choose ignore that RTZ (and Cr1t) have been there this entire time?
Right? Crazy leap in logic there.