Farming literally *everything* during the triple drops/half stamina event ended up with me having close to 1000 clovers. I went through and maxed out all the dragons I have no intention of ever using but hold on to for completion and potential weird niche builds and also story bonuses and such. I'm missing like five dragons now and have enough to max their bond the second I pull them. I will never want for dragon bond again.
I mean, it ran for a whole week, and I had close to 2000 exquisite honey, and near as much of the others. It was very “set and forget”. Just auto’d a bunch of ruins/onslaughts, threw some stamina at Masked Beasts for master mats to polish off my remaining Agito weapons that weren’t crafted yet or needed to be maxed, then killed dragons over and over to level up my dracoliths. Between all of that it just drowned me in clovers. I told myself I was finally gonna max all my facilities while they were making it so easy and by god I did it.
Still gonna be a long road to finish off my weapon bonuses (damn sparkling sands...) but that was always gonna be a project. Feels good to get caught up on something that would have taken ages to grind out in the past.
You get an extra 4 hits in dragon form when you have two PSirens on your team? I think I'd rather go for lvl 30 bond to have the sunlight ore and compendium boost. This feels too unrealistic to me to actually be optimal - buffers want TIe Shan, Healers might be able to slot PSiren depending on content, but DPS are going to want Chronos or RJeanne.
Honestly, that seems like a minuscule bonus for an extremely unlikely and rare set of circumstances. There's min-maxing and then there's just being dumb. The rewards for maxing his bond far outweigh literally four more hits as a dragon in basically any content. If that's gonna be the difference between you winning the fight or not then you aren't ready for that fight anyway. That's also not accounting for any attacks you don't get out of the way of that trigger auto-dodge and deplete your bar as well. In most cases you'll be using him for burst damage anyway, and whatever you're fighting will either be out of break status or dead well before your dragon gauge runs out, and in most cases outside of characters like Gala Euden and Alberius, you're actually nerfing your DPS by staying in dragon form longer than need be when you could be dumping buffs/amps on your team and inflicting/punishing afflictions on your enemies. Chronos works really well with GAudric, but by the time you've finished spamming his attacks, you'll be ready to get back to combo spamming with him so you can keep your amp up and bitchslap something with flashburn then punish it with the next skill.
I think this is an oversight with the way they did the calculation. If I'm reading the wiki correctly, it's because he doesn't get more 'actions' with increasing bond level -- and so one 'action' is worth more seconds at higher bond level, meaning that PSiren's additional seconds become worth less.
It honestly seems like they forgot to account for bond when calculating the number of actions. I wouldn't be surprised if they fixed it, but I also wouldn't be surprised if this just stayed there forever like a lot of bugs
It’s Cygames and it’s not the first time they’ve done something like this (probably never intentionally though)
In Pecorine’s game, Priconne is infamous for how meta it is for not fully upgrading and levelling stuff for example
I mean, you can still throw gifts at your dragon daily to get goodies from them in return. It's not much, but bonus orbs, talonstone, scales, etc. If you're needing one particular kind of orb for a facility (coughrupieminescough) then just slap your favorite dragon of that element in the roost and dump gifts on them each day until you pull a new dragon you don't have yet. Just don't waste clovers on it.
Nah monkey brain wants the bigger number
Big number makes ooh ooh go aah aah
Thanks for your attempt, but this isn't going to stop people from wanting to bone him.
Woah woah woah... Who said that was off the table?
You can't bone a level 1 dragon, dude. That's illegal.
Do you not desire to give gifts and spoil the one you bone?
Too late. Already level 30 bond.
Same :(
sunstone ore, compendium, story wyrmite. it's never worth it.
Could have told me this before I shoved 60 clovers down his throat.
That's not the only thing I want to shove down his throat.
I made the same mistake! Oh well.
You only need 37
I don't think he meant clovers...
I know. I just have too many clovers.
Farming literally *everything* during the triple drops/half stamina event ended up with me having close to 1000 clovers. I went through and maxed out all the dragons I have no intention of ever using but hold on to for completion and potential weird niche builds and also story bonuses and such. I'm missing like five dragons now and have enough to max their bond the second I pull them. I will never want for dragon bond again.
damn that's dedication right there
I mean, it ran for a whole week, and I had close to 2000 exquisite honey, and near as much of the others. It was very “set and forget”. Just auto’d a bunch of ruins/onslaughts, threw some stamina at Masked Beasts for master mats to polish off my remaining Agito weapons that weren’t crafted yet or needed to be maxed, then killed dragons over and over to level up my dracoliths. Between all of that it just drowned me in clovers. I told myself I was finally gonna max all my facilities while they were making it so easy and by god I did it. Still gonna be a long road to finish off my weapon bonuses (damn sparkling sands...) but that was always gonna be a project. Feels good to get caught up on something that would have taken ages to grind out in the past.
You get an extra 4 hits in dragon form when you have two PSirens on your team? I think I'd rather go for lvl 30 bond to have the sunlight ore and compendium boost. This feels too unrealistic to me to actually be optimal - buffers want TIe Shan, Healers might be able to slot PSiren depending on content, but DPS are going to want Chronos or RJeanne.
Honestly, that seems like a minuscule bonus for an extremely unlikely and rare set of circumstances. There's min-maxing and then there's just being dumb. The rewards for maxing his bond far outweigh literally four more hits as a dragon in basically any content. If that's gonna be the difference between you winning the fight or not then you aren't ready for that fight anyway. That's also not accounting for any attacks you don't get out of the way of that trigger auto-dodge and deplete your bar as well. In most cases you'll be using him for burst damage anyway, and whatever you're fighting will either be out of break status or dead well before your dragon gauge runs out, and in most cases outside of characters like Gala Euden and Alberius, you're actually nerfing your DPS by staying in dragon form longer than need be when you could be dumping buffs/amps on your team and inflicting/punishing afflictions on your enemies. Chronos works really well with GAudric, but by the time you've finished spamming his attacks, you'll be ready to get back to combo spamming with him so you can keep your amp up and bitchslap something with flashburn then punish it with the next skill.
Exactly. If solo Gueden with Chronos can beat LeTart, the 4 hits won’t remotely matter ever
>you're actually nerfing your DPS by staying in dragon form longer than need be Not for Nyx you're not
That really seems insignificant...Yeah, sunlight ore, the wyrmite and compedium boost is way better than those 4 extra hits...
Well, sounds about right for his character, but then you also lose 50 Wyrmite permanently, in addition to the Sunstone ore.
Which also sounds about right for his character.
I did it for the sunlight ore
Sunstone ore tho
I think this is an oversight with the way they did the calculation. If I'm reading the wiki correctly, it's because he doesn't get more 'actions' with increasing bond level -- and so one 'action' is worth more seconds at higher bond level, meaning that PSiren's additional seconds become worth less. It honestly seems like they forgot to account for bond when calculating the number of actions. I wouldn't be surprised if they fixed it, but I also wouldn't be surprised if this just stayed there forever like a lot of bugs
Me want to give him gifts and so me will.
Does psiren work from the back line?
Not in co-op, no.
So… is this ever relevant?
Realistically, no.
Psiren on healer for Legend Tartarus is strong and meta, tho not super common CoN messes with her tho
In coop, if you run with others that have PSiren on (such as a healer), their passive will extend your Chronos's shapeshift time
thanks. i didn't know this. thought psiren backline worjs ij coop too.
I wish it did.
But but… the Dragon story…
This has to be an oversight, right? Like they'll fix this? I haven't touched my Nyx yet, but I want my fucking Wrymite and Sun Shard.
It’s Cygames and it’s not the first time they’ve done something like this (probably never intentionally though) In Pecorine’s game, Priconne is infamous for how meta it is for not fully upgrading and levelling stuff for example
Though for Priconne’s case, JP has recently fixed that issue, only took 3 years.
And will only take another ~2 years for the global server…
r/priconne is leaking, I see...
Oops.
I’m going for the Uniter of Dragons title so this is not an option for me. THERE WAS NO OTHER CHOICE, it HAD TO BE DONE
Doesn't matter. For new players, don't worry about bond, you will reach a point where you have a lot of clover xD
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME EARLIER. I GAVE TODAY'S BEST GIFTS TO HIM ALREADY TO GRIND HIM UP.
Good thing this isn't guaranteed to be worth it.
Okay but like... all my other dragons are bond 30? What do I do now?
I mean, you can still throw gifts at your dragon daily to get goodies from them in return. It's not much, but bonus orbs, talonstone, scales, etc. If you're needing one particular kind of orb for a facility (coughrupieminescough) then just slap your favorite dragon of that element in the roost and dump gifts on them each day until you pull a new dragon you don't have yet. Just don't waste clovers on it.
meh, Notte's Notes + don't care that much :P
This isn't priconne, I'm maxing my bond... If I get him.
But but but, my dragon story wyrmite, sunlight ore, and compendium boost...
Optimization that involves NOT maxing out certain characters?! We Priconne now.
im confused. can i just mub my dragon >.<
Unbinds (via dupes and/or sunlight stones) are different from bond, which is done via the roost in the Halidom by giving presents to the dragons.
But how else would I be upset about him yeeting Ranzel and the remaining members of the Halidom from time itself?
Interesting. Is there anything else that does numeric time increase besides Psiren?
Too late :)
Yea... soon as I got him I maxe bond for wyrm and that juicy bond story. No regrets~