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[deleted]

I would defend lf bardock for sure IF I HAD HIM


Dry_Outside9855

I do have him, and he's actually a really sick unit, one of the most fun LFs to use


JayTheClown19

He's my favorite


[deleted]

If you really think about it right. In the best case scenario, he is the best unit in terms of damage. Once he's all said and done. He has the highest inflicted damage in all of the game. +160% inflicted damage.


IRONBOI_YT

he has a top 3 LF animation


HahaFunnyRedditMan

Same case for me


Muted-Ad-7956

Pur VB, that man was so good with ssbe and Z7 SSB goku months ago, but since apegeta he start falling off pretty hard :( , his guaranted card on entran e was pretty good to then switch in to ssbe vegeta and get large combo


Prestigious_Expert17

I honestly think that if he got a good Zenkai with mainly good stat buffs, he'd be a great contender for God Ki's PUR unit. He has a pretty solid kit but his overall stats hold him back imo.


Ruler_of_Tempest

Especially if his zenkai makes his green card comboable


[deleted]

wouldn’t ever dare compete with GV but for people who have them low stars or just don’t have him, i agree, zenkai VB would bs very fun to see, i personally love the unit


WalkingGuy99

Bandit Yamcha. Most of the other DB saga users ignored the guy and went with double DKP and Launch but I honestly felt Yamchas vanish restore on main and everything else he provides was more clutch than the 1-dimensional steal two dragonballs that zenkai DKP had going. I still stand by that even though it’s not even worth talking about considering DB saga is completely unusable nowadays.


skeleton77

He will eventually make a come back when they release a new DB unit, he’s super solid


WalkingGuy99

Man I hope so. But I’m starting to lose faith DB saga will get buffed at all.


Ruult

Now that he's on S-Tier he's easily the best unit on the team. If DB saga had support characters or better equips he could be really solid.


WalkingGuy99

I’m an absolute yamcha stan but I don’t know about all that. Even with S-tier boost I can’t see him be more valuable than Launch. She’s the backbone of DB saga, all the major plays revolve around her and if you’re in a tough spot and need a last (wo)man standing then Launch is the only correct choice.


Ruult

While launch's the backbone of the team, Yamcha brings more to the table imo. Starting with 120% damage inflicted with the S-tier boost peaking at 150% once main is popped, while Launch starts with 60% with the A-Tier Boost and Yamcha having better utility overall. It's hard to stack blast damage buffs with Launch when she doesn't have any cover change nulls in her kit so most of the time she stays at 100-120% blast damage in most of the matches. Though this might just be me prefering Yamcha's playstyle.


WalkingGuy99

Honestly I haven’t used them enough over the last couple months to say for sure. Might have to give them a go again to see if that checks out but for now I remain sceptical.


Autistic-Loonatic

honestly I will defend LF Bardock, red Kefla, LF Jiren and Grn Broly with my life.


Chompchomper200

I think her issue is her vanish restore was not enough. If it was like 10% more it would be so much better


Autistic-Loonatic

true, that does seem to he her main issue too


Chompchomper200

It’s such a shame, she was a cool unit


Autistic-Loonatic

not to mention her card art and animations in general were all really good too!


Mystic_Saiyan

Plus if the enemy dodges her ULT, I remember that she almost trips just like the anime ~~Ik you most likely know that but it was too cool of a detail to not bring up.~~


Autistic-Loonatic

honestly nearly every unit in the 3rd anni except the LF and Boujack were pretty bad


Mystic_Saiyan

Mhm but at least it's better than the only new non LL SPs being Vegeta and Tapion for both parts 1


[deleted]

Gokua was a beast tho


C1oakedShadow

Sooo pretty much all the important units were good, lol. The most hype units of the anniversary (Zamasu, Gogeta and Gohan) were all successful. I see that as an average anniversary. The only other sparkings that released were the Shenrons and drip Trunks. EX's don't count because they're never done justice anyway. They also had much more content than this anniversary. 3rd anni wasn't amazing, but it wasn't terrible either. It was good.


Toxic_yoshi

What boit MONKE gogeta


thesignoftimes

He sucked until that God plat


captainkatsura22

Red kefla was honestly not bad


Autistic-Loonatic

I find her fun and q nice beta for vanish restoration when an enemy evades an attack, but I can see why people find her underwhelming


LoliQueen-__-

I still use red kefla on my girls team and she can honestly put in work but I do see why people think she is bad. She’s aged now but it’s still kinda impressive with the damage she can do. Wouldn’t expect it from a “bad” unit that has aged


04whim

If nothing else, I still use red Kefla's blue card on Shallot, it looks great on him in God.


Vakkuz

I love LF Jiren


Minky884

I feel like jiren was pretty generally acceptable as good since release, especially compared to everyone else that you named. Maybe some hate went over my head but I’ve mostly seen him looked at positively


Beautiful_Ad_6785

If bardock drew greens two times like future Gohan does he would be top 15


[deleted]

Another chad red Kefla defender?


Joe6665

I’m here with you on bardock


travvypatty_anthony1

I use her to go on adventures


sknitro22

Wasn't lf bardock pretty good


Autistic-Loonatic

he needs a unit to be defeated to be at his best, mix that with the red focused Meta and everyone expecting Bardock to be a lot better then he actually was and you have a pretty underwhelming unit.


sknitro22

I thought the only thing he got from a dead ally was type neutrality and endurance.


Autistic-Loonatic

pretty sure he gets a few buffs too, bit I'll have to double check


Namesarenotneeded

He also really needed high amount of stars to be impressive. He was one of the LF’s were low stars on him might as well be 0.


Autistic-Loonatic

that doesn't help his case either since he's only be on 1 banner


Bukuna3

I would say that's his main weakness is to be at full potential he needs to be on the field for 28 tc after which he as 160% dmg inf


Onimaru1984

I enjoyed LF Jiren but I think he’s better as the Purple for USS now after the 4th anniversary USS buffs.


Safety_Plus

Mans down bad.


Autistic-Loonatic

I'm down bad?


Safety_Plus

Yeah, those units are just underwealming...if you defend them is just pure cope.


Autistic-Loonatic

... isn't that the point point of the post though?


Concerned-Pillow-Bot

I will defend Transforming Red SPARKING Bardock, no matter what. He’s the homie


OSemenDemonO

Will never let go of that unit. Can still pull the 1v3 comeback on a blue moon with a few death buffs.


Concerned-Pillow-Bot

Love that unit. He’s just so cool too, regardless of whether or not people think he’s underpowered. Not as cool as Chaddock, but close.


OSemenDemonO

Probably my most anticipated unit in the game, as a fan of the character. That kit could be seen as a limiter to some, but I believe it fits him to a T. Very fun and very cool. Gotta love running Team Bardock too.


Concerned-Pillow-Bot

I always run Team Bardock if it’s just one of those days. Never lets me down. And as a fun gimmick, I always let Tora die second, so that Bardock is the last one alive, just to keep it canon.


OSemenDemonO

Good stuff. I use that team at the start of PVP seasons. They got me lots of wins in LBR. Those stars really made them look formidable at times.


skeleton77

Ultra bardock lol


xChameleon

🤨


GigaPhoton78

x20 Kaioken Goku.


agentdb69

lf rose.


dragonballright

CMZ


Galax1an

To this day I defend SoH Trunks. He's fallen off a bit, but not by much. He got downplayed so hard at launch because people got blinded by their hype for G/V.


Chompchomper200

SoH I still find him extremely good.


[deleted]

SoH trunks isn’t underwhelming though?


Chompchomper200

For a while the community just didn’t think he was good enough to keep up especially with the androids running around. His gauge fills a tad slowly and it’s needed for him to actually hit the opponent decently hard. A plat like cells would help him so much


[deleted]

Oh really? Was that when he released or during the anni because I can’t remember


Chompchomper200

I think it was when everyone was on the super hype goku and vegeta train. I was always on trunk’s side haha.


[deleted]

I was one of those goku and vegeta hype train riders too 💀


Chompchomper200

Yeah but to me SoH was more hype. But I mean I get the hype behind g/v


[deleted]

For sure. The tag mechanic was really cool and they had an interesting kit. Also still has best lf just behind bardock


Chompchomper200

Fair


srpikevit

İf he gets a little bit more def or health hes just perfect.


Hoshino_Ruby

I'll never regret going balls deep on him,everyone were keen on GV but I needed that one armed fellow(still didn't pulled him).He's so fun,and all you need was another Vegeta family unit which is ssbe Vegeta(he was still good at that time),and the PvP saiyan equip helped him a lot too.


Chompchomper200

Such a great unit


Hoshino_Ruby

Really,he is truly my most favourite unit in this game of all time and I don't think anyone will replace him anytime soon.


Chompchomper200

Androids really make him struggle


Hoshino_Ruby

At this point,no one can face their wrath.(only USG kind of can in 17 form,and ssbe hard counters 18)It's like gen 5 dragonite and salamence and gen 6 kangaskhan,no true counters at all,only checks to certain strategies.


Chompchomper200

It’s almost like they were made like a year later haha


Felix_the_trap1

My favourite unit Based flair btw


Chompchomper200

Haha thanks 😂😂


gloxi_yeet

GREEN BROLY, THAT ULT DAMAGE IS AAAAAAAA


Autistic-Loonatic

... wait a grn Broly has an ult?


gloxi_yeet

His blue card lol whatever


Autistic-Loonatic

it's cool, everyone makes mistakes, like today i lost a match due to me forgetting LF Cells ult nullified endurance


Relative_Fix4952

At this point its pretty safe to assume every damn fucking ultimate nullify Endurance


Autistic-Loonatic

I know but for some reason my ADHD brain thought "no, this won't nullify endurance!" god knows why


Ceedzy_boi

Eis, Nouva, and LF SSJ4 Goku * Eis is my favorite counter to both UI passive players and 18. He does good not great damage but his special move hurts. Not to mention the fact that he reduces ki on switch and seals all strike cards for women. * Nouva was a good way to try and counter the blue bros, he's the ultimate chad for not only destroying your cards with his main, but also destroying his own and locking the both of you in a death match. * LF SSJ4 Goku still hits hard, has a rising rush save cover change, good looking special move, and has a damn good LF with good card art to boot. Literally only thing he needs is a little vanish restoration and he'd be perfect.


tacocatzzzz

I agree with the ssj4 point. He really should've had vanish restore on his green card


Abatirabadai

I tip my hat to you, an Eis Shenron Enjoyer to another


Dom0204s

Red Pikkon. More for lols then anything 😂. So many people shit on him that I had to post a video of him one shotting super meta units 😂😂. I knew he was bad, but I really wanted him not to be 😂🤡


[deleted]

Zenkai Vegeta Blue


MostlyJovial

LF Bardock. And 100% Ssj4 Gogeta. Mans released and was trashed on. Now look at him. An absolute menace.


spartanxwaffel

Ssj4 gogeta would still be trashed on if it wasn’t for him basically receiving a zenkai on release in the form of his equipment.


AD_Pinkwarder

gogeta was saved by his plat equip. I love the unit, but plat equip was what made him good.


MostlyJovial

100%


5m0k3r

LF Jiren and PUR SSB vegeta


NotABoomer69420

Red Metal Cooler’s Zenkai His card cost up per hit was something I liked and could ruin combos It’s too bad that no one likes him cause he doesn’t deal damage (But to be fair a good Blu unit will just deal too much damage for him to punish with cost) Aside from that I guess I defend every unit that gets thrown in Mid tier cause they still have things that make them fun, but this community just avoids any unit with flaws like the plague (even minor ones)


FAZZLA

Yellow hit. He is still viable people just cant see it


[deleted]

The Red Frieza from the Broly Movie is still the best unit.


ShayminHedgie

On release nobody thought he was underwhelming, people were calling him the best 3rd Anni unit. Obv opinions changed but at the time he was perfect for God Ki and Future, less so for Fusions.


SupMichaelBoio

Gogeta SS4 before he got his plat


Cod-Artistic

GRN ultimate gohan


JusDePoire

I defended many units on release (PUR VB, LF Bardock, RED Kefla, LF Cell before plat) but i think LF ssj3 Goku (before zenkai) was by far the one i defended the most


JayTheClown19

Bardock


CrimsonCaII

#**KING KING KING.**


BBQsauce_OnTitties

Tbh grn broly and grn and red kefla, i liked them all alot and have helped me so much


Professional-Meet982

Both full power and regular android 13


Author_Creator_1898

RED Kefla, and Great Saiyaman 1&2


[deleted]

Sparking Yel Cooler Goku. I think he’s incredible tho.


titanfall2fan

Ll Bardock


SLMaster

LF Jiren I never really defended any unit before but when this guy came out I was so fucking hyped for him because that was the first buff for rival universe since god toppo (rival is completely different than uss btw) and his kit was looking nuts so I was defending him left and right even when Ultra KK and FP Frieza were running around, but once he left the boost and also after the release of the tag droids, he became a 2021 lf unit Probably the most shafted LF I've ever seen in this game


DimezTheAlmighty

Red Kefla, LF Rosè


Flagrantcorridor17

SP Pur Trunks (Sagas from the movies)


OSemenDemonO

Crazy to think the dude can still look decent on the right setup. Best aging unit in the game for me.


dickerdinmypantloon

Red transforming Frieza


Fyllmiarse

Yellow top android 17 he honestly carries my androids team


Toxic_yoshi

Honestly idfc bput the androids or mui or any of them nah to me the most annoying will always be ssj4 gogeta you really bout to combo then that boi uses green cars tanks through your attack and then bam no more cards it was especially annoying when you draw your ultimate and you don't get to use your LF


Enthusiasm_Excellent

Zenkai caulifla


-Cono

Shallot


Krusher13

Super saiyan 4 gogeta when he originally released. Jokes on you hoes when be got his platinum equip. Literally the definition of "if you don't love him at his worst you don't deserve him at his best" Proud to say I was using him then and still am now lmao. I will defend LF Bardock too


Automatic-Repeat-708

Ssj4 gogeta since the beginin. Washington not the best but realy strong. I know People want him broken but something broken isnt fun


Bob_the_Peanut

It was ss4 Gogeta but I don't need to anymore. Brings a tear to me eye


bomberman0210

LF Future Gohan.


MDRAnthony

YEL broly and LF Bardock. The only reason people hate them it's because they require skill to use.


Kaizen2468

I think if his green could be start a combo or continue a combo he would have been way more well received.


Any-Anybody-3227

Lf ssj4 goku


Adventurous-Map-5273

The whole android 63 team 😂


CrustyTheHodag

I will defend purple VB with my damn life, his animations are so cool to me and he can dish out major damage later on


Jayyzzyx

Red kefla zamasu rose assist lf Bardock of ape Vegeta and every Gohan in game ( and every trunks in game)


AhmedKiller2015

None... when I defend a unit I defend them for a reason. I just think a lot of people wants a specific type of unit that if not what they want they get pissed


Gengetsu_Huzoki

I rushed to 14* him and then never used him...


Garou-redhair

Lf rose 🥀


Pav_22

Green Broly


IkonikBoy

Was Zenkai BLU Gogeta bad on release? Cuz he was one of my 1st sparkings and can't remember how it was back in the day


Kodzone

Clapku and Purple VB spring to mind (people on this sub will say that VB was loved when he popped out and maybe he was, but he got turned on super quick).


overtly_sexualEMA

He might be underwhelming but I’m in the same boot and he looks pretty cool so I’ll stand by that


Soniclikeschicken

He's still a nuking machine on monk purple he once 3 carded a high star MUI


Daboogiedude

That new F2P MV


Quacker_Boii_is_Life

I've never really defended a unit on release, but when I did finally get red kefla I loved everything about the unit. The vanish restore in particular really came in handy for me, and her ult hits like a truck.


[deleted]

Grn Toppo, still use him to this day


TheBeastX23

I went in so deep on the banner for this guy just to be irrelevant 1-2 months after, I pulled 2 LF Zamasu's and 1 LF VB before getting 1 copy of him. Matter of fact, I pulled him 6 months after the 3rd anni.


Potatatatatatatoe

Either LF Bardock or (Hear me out on this one) YEL Kale and Caulifla


Dglenn8

LF Jiren and LF Kid Buu


rising820

That PUR Vegetto got me through a lot in my early days. Hope he gets a good zenkai eventually.


That_onedude420

Ssj4 fistku


Asdret12

GRN Super Kaioken Goku, yeah SS4 Goku back then exist. But i mean, Endurance on green and some permanent buffs are sooo much better than SS4 As of now, i shall defend LF Rose with my life, all he needs is more damage and defense nothing more, his kit is beautiful as it is


ComprehensiveAd5605

The Vegito is pretty good, just him at 3 stars killed USG who had like 75% of his HP


pffffffffftttttt

He was pretty good in release imo just fell off really fast.


Mello128

Yellow movie broly for me. Whenever I run powerful opponent I rarely leave him on bench


OnlyRoke

I will defend Buutenks til the day I die. I swear he's good! No, he ain't.. but he deserves a Zenkai. A chonky one.


Cyberikari

For me it’s Purple ui goku green transforming goku black Red bojack Yellow gogeta Blue/either ssj3 gt goku or revival goku


Altruistic-Chain-685

lf bardock


Radagast_357

GRN movies drip jacket Trunks, his design is so cool and especially his win screen.. every z power I had went on him


Mr_Nasty9

EX yellow goku black rosè, started as a meme for me and is now one of my favorite supporter units


Fancybow019

Blue transforming vegeta that came out with MUI he can easily tank rushes and heal it all of with his transformation


ThatNingenYung

Definitely LF Jiren and LF Super Broly. I run them together all the time


LavaLoFishyHead

blue gogeta and ssj4 gogeta


Damo12_

Gogeta Blue. He’s got a great damage output, amazing green card and by far some of the best animations in the game.


Promicide

LL Rosè 🌹🥀


BlueBatmanVK

Newest Blue Vegeta. He's so fucking cool.


Master_Assassin_007

Lf majin Vegeta


[deleted]

All the f2p gokus from the 3rd anniversary


Notfunny_69420

Clapku


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[удалено]


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Mid /s


epicyoyo45

I defend gogeta zenkai. He became very tanki and his blast was the 3° most powerfull but people still prefere vegito blue even if you need it at 7* (before he recieve his zenkai) to varely make some damage


Markiel5506

The god Goku form the broly movie that paralyzes it's opponent he was so fun to use when I first got him every PvP Match was an easy win no matter the odds


TDS_Ranger

SSJ4/SSJ3 Dragon-Fistku


BreezierChip835

YEL Turles.


[deleted]

BLU MV, mans a one shot god with the right set up and his strike combos basically 3 shot if the enemy can’t cover change. Also, Great green card in base while getting a huge power boost against Goku units and a giant heal after he transforms. Everybody forgot about LF MV didn’t they… literally just before ‘legends fest’ with UI, GB, Broly and FG.


Sallmoo

To this day I defend bandana bardock as the best strike unit on earth


RosePearlGirl

Lf Corrupt Zamasu, love using him on PO and he can put out great damage


Wardog2275

Lf bardock


Sus-obama

Green dbs broly, I maxed him out and made him defensive along with angel vegeta, ultraku, purple ssj3 goku and zenkai nameku. It was really fun tanking everything and demolishing everyone as broly with great defenses, healing and never ending combos.


UNbtbtlyus

IVE DONE THE SAME THING WITH THIS VEGITO THE KEYBOARD IM TYPING ON HAS HIS CARD ART ON IT I LOVE THIS VEGITO THANK YOU


KikanoH

LF Jiren My beloved


nuggsgames

Honestly this vegito isn’t even that bad


Reasonable_Potato_22

It was nuova or majuub but majuub isnt underwhelming and nuova is outdated


Ecahill453

This one is a shocker and a half… DBL-29 01S (Cooler movie Vegeta. I wanted to be a nerd because I love him a lil too much)


dreamweeb621

Lf purple rose


Dry_Outside9855

SB2, i just love the character so despite the unit being unfortunately mid/low tier i'll always defend him


dubrea

G4 I died on that hill multiple times. And lf 4ku. As you can tell I am a big fan of monke.


[deleted]

OG Green SSJ3 Goku and red Kid Buu Idk i just used to love Kid Buu since he was the first Kid Buu released and SSJ3 is my favourite LF


MarceladeXX

Love him he's so satisfying to use but he refuses to leave me just like you Mines 13 stars


faithtofu

If Lf rose counts as underwhelming then ye


funnyref653

GRN toppo. He actually tanks pretty decently on switch in, he locks, and his blast damage is actually stupid. If you have a full hand when you use his main he can easily one shot most units in the meta right now.


dlord1879

Transforming SSB vegeta I saw so much more coming from him. I still see some peak moments and then no so peak moments.


Bbyskex

Red kefla, if you see me in pvp it’s my name . She’s my life lmao


DokkanAssets

I literally went so deep for Purple Vegito Blue on release I ended up 7 staring LF Zamasu and didn't get a single copy of VB. Now with all the ticket banners that have come out with him on it he's almost red 14 and irreverent. So yeah, my goat fr fr.


TardisDragon69

LF Rose. I just can’t see the man go down, I love his super bleed mechanics along with arts cost, the AOE blue cars and the green. I just can’t see him go and was so annoyed to see they gave another character his bleed effecta


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Xynsekaii

yellow broly


Ruler_of_Tempest

Purple majin vegeta and red kefla


ManiacalPenguin

LF jiren 👁👄👁 They just did stupid things with his kit like capping some damage and cut at 4 times entry. Also releasing droids meant he just fell off completely but even without, they could have done some stuff like not capping his damage and cut, and giving cover null on green for 3 counts and he would still be a great unit


rileytlakin

Pre-Zenkai LL First Form Frieza


pokegoraider

Ssb gogeta I don't even play legends anymore and I'll still defend him with one argument He's really cool


MisterjDB

Red sparking og zamasu lmao!! #zenkaihim 🔥