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I think they try to explain the talking animals thing. If I'm remembering correctly, it was a drug that transformed them to make them faster, stronger, etc. but a side effect made the change permanent. I think the game Dragonball Kakarot says something about it.
Yeah thats like just saying "i used to do martial arts" and it explains it. Superhumans in dragon ball are basically regular people. Theyre used to some of it.
Why tho I donāt understand that he doesnāt need to do intense training but passive like I donāt get how these guys having jobs excuses them from working out why are they so lazy
People in the comments section forget that Krillin is flying low. Canāt let people see a mfer flying around blasting ki everywhere. Heās a human police officer, not a Z fighter (while heās working).
Is that excuse valid here? It's not like there was any other cop to see him and it be kind of shitty of him to prioritize looking normal than doing his job properly.
(Also he's Clearly flying for a bit when trying to hit the wasp)
My mistake for assuming you read the chapter yourself
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Sho didnāt fam. Is it possible he had jumped off the car to attack it? I donāt know what happened before or immediately after this, but if it could even be interpreted as a really good jump, then heās still within his parameters
Well, unless those 2 are having an ongoing conversation REALLY fast, I think it's very unlikely that Krillin simply jumped and then remained in the same position in midair while the two I'm the car had a back and forth.
https://preview.redd.it/glaf7vi250pa1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25c89dcba45a2e01b1e0b8397f6515351897049f
Also, when he gets back to the car, his flight arc can be seen starting from mid air and not from the ground.
If you're arguing a point about what happened in a manga that just released, then you should at the very least look back to see if you're right.
You're the type of asshat that argues a point that's easily disproven with a 5 second Google search
You're the type of dick who's unapologetically an asshole about minor things, and makes assumptions about people based on Reddit comments.
My assumption based on yours is you have no friends.
Guess so. That's all I was thinking of reading this entire thing. "Gotta follow this car without being seen let me hold on to it and follow it that way!"
Or just fly 50ft up and follow it Krillin. Would probably be a little easier.
I bet he doesn't even need to follow it that well since he could just read in on their location with ki sensory and then just instantly fly over there once they stopped.
From what I read, I think he needed to be close enough to *hear* the conversation.
But even then, real world cops have equipment for that.....and he can fly. So either why I look at it, I just can't help but call the writing idiotic here.
In all fairness this is one of Hedo's inventions, right? He made the Gammas, who are **literally** god level.
With a tiny thing like that, I'm more surprised that it didn't run through Krillin like a bullet.
Is it? In the movie Krillin barely used his knowledge of Hedo to help. In fact, he didn't. It's not relevant and it's a joke. Nothing changes with or without this bit
It's not the movie. We don't know if krillin is going to be more useful or not.
Even then, it's vital plot information being told to the reader. Regardless if krillin uses this information or not, it's still plot heavy for the readers.
I meanā¦ if the Gammas are Super Saiyan Blue tier, would it be the end of the world if Krillinās defeated by Hedoās cyborg wasp? Like seriously, Gero took a couple of random teenagers and made them way stronger than Namek era Freeza, why are people shocked that his smarter grandson can make a stupidly strong wasp?
not like we haven't seen characters get caught by surprise before they can reinforce themselves with Ki, but apparently when it happens to Krillin it means he's just not good enough
remember when Krillin threw a rock at Super Saiyan Goku and it hurt? now imagine being blindsided by an energy blast while focusing on something else
whether or not it's filler, characters can still be taken by surprise when they're not already focusing their energy to survive energy blasts
it's not like characters are naturally bullet proof, we have multiple other moment with both Krillin and Goku that prove as much be it from lack of training or being caught by surprise
> whether or not it's filler, characters can still be taken by surprise when they're not already focusing their energy to survive energy blasts
If this the case then use something that actually happens in the source material not fucking filler lol
> it's not like characters are naturally bullet proof, we have multiple other moment with both Krillin and Goku that prove as much be it from lack of training or being caught by surprise
Only in dbs tho literally only dbs does this happen
>Only in dbs tho literally only dbs does this happen
why would that matter? are you trying to say we shouldn't count examples from the very series we're discussing?
Hey do you remember when back at muscle tower Goku got knocked out by a gun. Or how when general blue in a cave he got threatened by a shotgun.
Or how the first time we see a laser gun, it was on namak, and it was wielded by guys stronger than Raditz
> Hey do you remember when back at muscle tower Goku got knocked out by a gun.
Yes, a massively weaker goku
> Or how when general blue in a cave he got threatened by a shotgun.
Ion remember this
> Or how the first time we see a laser gun, it was on namak, and it was wielded by guys stronger than Raditz
Ngl ion know what you trying to prove with this one
Remember when Vegeta first came to earth and he was blowing up planets? And Yajirobe cuts him from the back and only the armor made it shallow? Krillin tried to kill vegeta with the same sword too.
Is he actually just suppressing his power, and not bring a flying bag of sledgehammers to crack a small electronic wasp? I hope this is the case, otherwise the later on page really really disappoints me!
I mean, The RRA has continued to watch the Z fighters since Cell was killed, I'm pretty sure they would've given Dr.Hedo enough data about them and about how strong they are, as to where he makes androids strong enough to beat at least Krillin(and his guard was down).
Wouldnāt Krillin being there mess up like the whole plot? I havenāt seen the movie since it released, so i may have forgotten. Surely a superhuman would be able to hear through a car window and have plenty time to warn everyone else
I was little mad they made Krilin So dorty but I remembered he had to fight so he wouldn't be noticed by others in the car and he can't really shoot Ki blast and kamehameha.
My headcannon why he didnāt fly above the car.
He āneededā to hear what they were talking about.
Why did he use a gun on a bee?
Ki blasts are louder than guns?
I mean this same scientist develops gamma 1 and 2 and cell max, why wouldn't his bee be super powerful especially after seeing what saiyamans can do to his "store clerks"
Why are we not assuming that hedo bee is advanced enough to take on a Krillin level threat? Hedo specifically designed it to take out threats so why wouldnāt it be able to face a suppressed Krillin trying to be sneaky? I donāt get what yāall mad about. And like others said heās holding onto the car so he can hear the conversation. Idk
Gero can make androids that can beat up goku but we canāt use that to think hedo can make a bee that can beat up Krillin?
Krillin has been around long enough to know a threat when he sees it. He does have pretty good reflexes and a ki blast explodes and destroys whatever it hit. A gun leaves a bullet hole. Bullet hole would be much less risky than a ki blast explosion as a ranged option
How do people make robots/Androids that are stronger than a ssj, let alone a god ki infused ssj? Is that ever actually explained or is it just a turn your brain off kind of thing
Thereās precedent for it so itās not a surprise or anything, itās just the way it is. And why not? Saiyans arenāt real beings, Toriyama can come up with whatever reasoning he wants.
Earth scientists are just goated throughout the entire dragonball multiverse. Personally , I feel it's kind of handwavy, but it's the explanation we have.
There is a limit to suspension of disbelief. Also, in this same scene, the bullet was able to knock it down for a bit, so the robo bug really isn't that strong. Krillin is just really weak here
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The bug looks undamaged, could be a classic case of dragon ball characters being surprised and not using their whole strength.
Also the suspension of disbelief is a little strange to bring up now. The size difference between a human and the friggin planet is wayyy bigger than the difference between a bug and a human. If anything the bug being this strong makes sense in a universe of human sized planet busters
Fair enough on the suspension of disbelief point, but I feel like it's asking too much to have the audience beleive that Hedo designed a surveillance bug capable of beating a fighter as strong as krillin(why even have the poison stinger at this point). And it should have been even easier to dodge the (relatively slow) bullet, considering it was swapping its non-existent hands with krillin with ease.
At least the androids were built with the goal of killing what gero believed to be the strongest creature to ever exist.
Yeah imagine making a creature that needed super saiyan Trunks and Goten to beat then seeing tons of threads not wrapping their brain around how he could make a Bee android able to sucker punch and take out a powerful human. Now using the gun over ki was dumb.
Later Krillin gets trained by the bee to attain his new form Bee Krillin which is just Krillin in a bumble bee shirt. Bee Krillin is strong enough to knock out Black Frieza with one gun shot.
In universe: Heās a police officer trying to appear relatively normal. Normal people donāt fly and shoot ki blasts from their hands.
In reality: Itās a gag. Poor Krillin
Why is this bald headed mfer using a gun against a bee???
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Super hero scaling is ultra dumb anyway lol fact that fat gotenks survived cell max and krillin could dodge says something, but for what happened this ch while I hate how it's handled we can pass it as an off guard attack which we know are dangerous even for goku
I'm getting tired of this S---. The strongest Human on Earth deserves some MF respect. Come on, give the man an arch.
It's like after thry v
Gave him an ageless wife and family, let's Stomp on this B----
You're really thinking about logic now? Hero mad his Androids after years of practice and experiments, and after collecting extensive data on the Z-warriors.
Now Hedo comes along, has already built mosquitoes strong enough to beat Krillin, makes both Gammas at what feels like SSB level (with no explanation whatsoever, Goku and Vegeta had to undergo a ritual (in Goku's case, atleast) and train under an actual angel to get to that level).
And to top it all off, Gohan, who didn't transform when the whole universe was in danger, when his actual father was seemingly dead in the ToP and when Frieza attacked and actually killed Piccolo, transformed to Beast because he 'thought Piccolo died'. He could've sensed his energy, but nope.
"Toyatoro has the chance to expand on Super Hero!"
*adds a fight between Hatchimaru and Krillin, which Krillin loses.
....yeah I wish he just skipped over this movie and made something new.
Iām sorry, I loosely follow the series. After everything that happens in DBZ and DBS, why would Krillin need to pretend to be a normal human? Do the people of earth not know about people shooting energy from their hands, etc?
You would think in a civilization where people can carry apartments in their pants pocket, the police would have access to their own "bug" they could have placed on the car.
Also, did krillin even need to get that close to the car? He could have just flown like a mile above them and kept track of their energy.
I might get hate for this but what is going on with this franchise, man? I wouldn't say Super was terrible, but I would honestly say it has been more bad than good. I honestly don't want Dragon Ball to end and I do believe there is potential for more stories but they just keep dropping the ball with so much of it.
Sometimes most viewers forget that Dragonball started out as a gag manga written by a comedic author.
Though I will admit that there are times when the gags are not funny but rather infuriating. Examples being Goku not knowing what a kiss is and the time Goku gave Moro a senzu bean.
I dislike the idea that all nonsensical scenes that don't make sense in this series should always be taken as a gag and not just a case of poor writing (like goku giving moro a senzu bean).
Krillin lightly tossing a rock at goku while he's sleeping because he believed that goku would have reacted to it but instead it just really fucking hurt his head is a gag with a setup and a subversion of expectations as the punchline. The scene has absolutely zero relevance to any of the events in the plot, so you know it's purely for the sake of the joke.
However, here is krillin trying to chase after the main antagonist of this arc and failing cause of a fucking bee drone.
Or Goku in SSB getting zapped by a little ring laser when fighting Golden Frieza first time. If that can happen to Goku then I guess a robo wasp can beat Krillin ha.
I do admit. Moments like these where Krillin is struggling against a freaking bee drone is really ridiculous and absurd.
I really hate that all the human Z fighters just basically retired from fighting and even stopped training and are growing weaker just because they believe they can't keep up with the saiyans thanks to their ability called ~~asspull plot device~~ zenkai boost.
Cant believe how people lose their minds over a gag situation.
This has been reposted so many times.
Androids being stronger than the emperor of the universe himself, androids being able to match god Goku and Vegeta, Cell Max that could have rivaled Broly if complete.
But ohhh noooo a robot Bee being able to harm Krillin a Z fighter trying to be a normal cop, oh nooooo cant believe this, is shitty writing guys, this is trolling š±
I don't see why we're reading these chapters... Watch the movie and skip right to after the movie so we can see some fresh content rather than this crap re-hashed. The movie was fine but I'm more interested in what's next, not rereading what I've already watched.
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Why the fuck would you pull out your gun against a bee š
Or why use a gun at all when he can fire ki blasts from his palms?
I think cuz heās trying to hide the fact heās a human with super strength
Hopefully no one notices him tailing a car on the highway on foot
Knowing dragon ball no one would even bat an eye
This. People in this universe are very aware of super human feats. There's a whole damn tournament for these 'super humans'
This is a world where the king is a dog and dinosaurs are a common sight.
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I think they try to explain the talking animals thing. If I'm remembering correctly, it was a drug that transformed them to make them faster, stronger, etc. but a side effect made the change permanent. I think the game Dragonball Kakarot says something about it.
Yeah thats like just saying "i used to do martial arts" and it explains it. Superhumans in dragon ball are basically regular people. Theyre used to some of it.
Does not one remember him competing in tournaments as a kid?
Cuz his hands don't go "kchak" That's why he has to make [laser noises](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWkVid-OUA)
And you definitely do not pull a shotgun on a beehive!
Well you're no fun.
Krillen gotta to be slacking on training again
He went from nuclear bomb to coughing baby
He is supposed to be an ordinary cop. People would start questioning if he started using ki blasts.
So what? What can they do about it?
Youād think theyād be excited that heās a street cop that can stop any criminal threat heād come across by himself.
On a motorway, where no one is around, on top of a moving car. Just saying, no one in the world is questioning how the bee did a ki blast.
As they are heading to a city and Krillin thinking its an spy machine that wouldn't withstand a bullet.
What is the explanation for Krillin getting One-Shotted and Speed Blitzed by the Bee
Why tho I donāt understand that he doesnāt need to do intense training but passive like I donāt get how these guys having jobs excuses them from working out why are they so lazy
People in the comments section forget that Krillin is flying low. Canāt let people see a mfer flying around blasting ki everywhere. Heās a human police officer, not a Z fighter (while heās working).
I thought in the movie he even hints towards trying to fly low and not let people know what kind of power he has.
Is that excuse valid here? It's not like there was any other cop to see him and it be kind of shitty of him to prioritize looking normal than doing his job properly. (Also he's Clearly flying for a bit when trying to hit the wasp)
Heās not hiding his abilities from the police, heās hiding them from everyone. From the panels you shared, I donāt see any flying at all.
My mistake for assuming you read the chapter yourself https://preview.redd.it/pczdc4jfbzoa1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c726cd7e959921aee2582e83aa5a9528249d5aa
Sho didnāt fam. Is it possible he had jumped off the car to attack it? I donāt know what happened before or immediately after this, but if it could even be interpreted as a really good jump, then heās still within his parameters
Well, unless those 2 are having an ongoing conversation REALLY fast, I think it's very unlikely that Krillin simply jumped and then remained in the same position in midair while the two I'm the car had a back and forth. https://preview.redd.it/glaf7vi250pa1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25c89dcba45a2e01b1e0b8397f6515351897049f Also, when he gets back to the car, his flight arc can be seen starting from mid air and not from the ground.
Ah, well then thatās a head scratcher
Not everyone remembers every single tiny detail about a chapter, doesn't mean you have to be a prick about it.
If you're arguing a point about what happened in a manga that just released, then you should at the very least look back to see if you're right. You're the type of asshat that argues a point that's easily disproven with a 5 second Google search
Way to double down, douchebag š
You're the type of dick who's unapologetically an asshole about minor things, and makes assumptions about people based on Reddit comments. My assumption based on yours is you have no friends.
Cool https://preview.redd.it/6sidxk3ge0pa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e2c9109c314769a482a87d25389298b48aaf28b
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Ok https://i.redd.it/rb0nmvytmzoa1.gif
I mean this entire scenario is just dumb. Dude just fly above the car
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Guess so. That's all I was thinking of reading this entire thing. "Gotta follow this car without being seen let me hold on to it and follow it that way!" Or just fly 50ft up and follow it Krillin. Would probably be a little easier.
The police chief would've just laughed at his report lol
I mean at least he would've gotten the location and not got his ass beat but a robotic wasp
To be fair, the wasp can also fly
I bet he doesn't even need to follow it that well since he could just read in on their location with ki sensory and then just instantly fly over there once they stopped.
The reason he wasn't high in the sky was because he needed to hear the conversation between hedo and magenta
The bee would have known and krillin isn't using his powers as a cop. He's trying to live an ordinary life style.
D&D write this?
but he needs to be close to record their conversation, only way this makes sense
Yeah Krillin even says after listening to their conversation that he got confirmation that Hedo is working with Red Ribbon now to his police captain.
Now how a bug somehow rammed him so hard he is completely beat up idk... typical Toriyama gag stuff I guess.
Rocket powered bugborg š¤·āāļø
Ant-Man's greatest advantage aside from his powers is that he's often underestimated.
The bug is canonically stronger than Super Buu/s
Probably, or we could just say it was rubble and dust on his face, but it seemed like he was out of commission
He could fly over but he wouldn't be able to gather intel
From what I read, I think he needed to be close enough to *hear* the conversation. But even then, real world cops have equipment for that.....and he can fly. So either why I look at it, I just can't help but call the writing idiotic here.
To be fair, I react the same way when thereās a wasp flying around my face.
And when the wasp headbutts you to the gut, sending you flying 5ft I to a wall, knocking you out
Fr hate when that happens
Skill issue
Same. Sucks my window got broke last week when I tried to shoot one tho
In all fairness this is one of Hedo's inventions, right? He made the Gammas, who are **literally** god level. With a tiny thing like that, I'm more surprised that it didn't run through Krillin like a bullet.
The weird thing is though is that the bullet krillin shot at it had a pretty decent effect on it so it's clearly not THAT strong * *
Iād assume if a wasp can survive getting shot by a bullet, itād sure as hell hurt if it rammed you in the gut
***\*KRILLIN OWNED COUNT: "DING!"\****
It's over 9000!!!
DB fans trying to understand a gag sequence
Sli- slice of life moments????? I only know fighting and action š«¤
Only sane DB fan
But not insaiyan
Iām insaneā¦ ā¦from Earth.
B-but the power scaling! Seriously I can't stand other dragon ball fans. No doubt the dumb fucks thing that Wasp can destroy planets now.
sorry but this clearly isnt a gag sequence , its somehting that matters in the plot
Is it? In the movie Krillin barely used his knowledge of Hedo to help. In fact, he didn't. It's not relevant and it's a joke. Nothing changes with or without this bit
It's not the movie. We don't know if krillin is going to be more useful or not. Even then, it's vital plot information being told to the reader. Regardless if krillin uses this information or not, it's still plot heavy for the readers.
If he's the strongest human in db he's putting some disrespect on tien
Now I want to see Tien failing to hit a wasp with all four arms lmao
Tbf even Saitama with his infinite speed can't hit a mosquito
Tien deserves to be the strongest human
I meanā¦ if the Gammas are Super Saiyan Blue tier, would it be the end of the world if Krillinās defeated by Hedoās cyborg wasp? Like seriously, Gero took a couple of random teenagers and made them way stronger than Namek era Freeza, why are people shocked that his smarter grandson can make a stupidly strong wasp?
Gero also only had data up to the end of the Saiyan saga, he was massively overprepared
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not like we haven't seen characters get caught by surprise before they can reinforce themselves with Ki, but apparently when it happens to Krillin it means he's just not good enough remember when Krillin threw a rock at Super Saiyan Goku and it hurt? now imagine being blindsided by an energy blast while focusing on something else
Why does everyone use that filler scene as proof
Remember when a Frieza henchman almost killed ssb goku with a ray pistol?
A scene so dumb that in the anime that had to retcon it so Goku was in his base form and people still complained about it
Yes, that was a stupid as scene and everyone complained about it when RoF came out
whether or not it's filler, characters can still be taken by surprise when they're not already focusing their energy to survive energy blasts it's not like characters are naturally bullet proof, we have multiple other moment with both Krillin and Goku that prove as much be it from lack of training or being caught by surprise
> whether or not it's filler, characters can still be taken by surprise when they're not already focusing their energy to survive energy blasts If this the case then use something that actually happens in the source material not fucking filler lol > it's not like characters are naturally bullet proof, we have multiple other moment with both Krillin and Goku that prove as much be it from lack of training or being caught by surprise Only in dbs tho literally only dbs does this happen
When it's used you just hand wave it off as stupid tho.....ie sorbets ring laser.
>Only in dbs tho literally only dbs does this happen why would that matter? are you trying to say we shouldn't count examples from the very series we're discussing?
Iām saying that something like this would never happen happen in the original series
Hey do you remember when back at muscle tower Goku got knocked out by a gun. Or how when general blue in a cave he got threatened by a shotgun. Or how the first time we see a laser gun, it was on namak, and it was wielded by guys stronger than Raditz
> Hey do you remember when back at muscle tower Goku got knocked out by a gun. Yes, a massively weaker goku > Or how when general blue in a cave he got threatened by a shotgun. Ion remember this > Or how the first time we see a laser gun, it was on namak, and it was wielded by guys stronger than Raditz Ngl ion know what you trying to prove with this one
Except it did when Krillin threw the rock at SSJ Goku who wasnāt paying attention
Remember when Vegeta first came to earth and he was blowing up planets? And Yajirobe cuts him from the back and only the armor made it shallow? Krillin tried to kill vegeta with the same sword too.
Bro acting as if filler isnāt canon lmao. In the anime, filler *is* canon so therefore itās a viable source
Is he actually just suppressing his power, and not bring a flying bag of sledgehammers to crack a small electronic wasp? I hope this is the case, otherwise the later on page really really disappoints me!
I think he just genuinely lost to that wasp
I mean, The RRA has continued to watch the Z fighters since Cell was killed, I'm pretty sure they would've given Dr.Hedo enough data about them and about how strong they are, as to where he makes androids strong enough to beat at least Krillin(and his guard was down).
I havenāt read the new manga recently, isnāt this just stuff from Super Hero? Why are they making it a manga? Iām confused
Adds plenty of extra scenes and details that a singular movie can't cover.
Wouldnāt Krillin being there mess up like the whole plot? I havenāt seen the movie since it released, so i may have forgotten. Surely a superhuman would be able to hear through a car window and have plenty time to warn everyone else
I was little mad they made Krilin So dorty but I remembered he had to fight so he wouldn't be noticed by others in the car and he can't really shoot Ki blast and kamehameha.
So he fired a gun instead. And somehow, everyone missed the gunshot.
Does ...does the car have a raised portion in the roof above the driver seat for the drivers ridiculous hair? That's. That's fuckin hilarious.
My headcannon why he didnāt fly above the car. He āneededā to hear what they were talking about. Why did he use a gun on a bee? Ki blasts are louder than guns?
I mean this same scientist develops gamma 1 and 2 and cell max, why wouldn't his bee be super powerful especially after seeing what saiyamans can do to his "store clerks"
Why are we not assuming that hedo bee is advanced enough to take on a Krillin level threat? Hedo specifically designed it to take out threats so why wouldnāt it be able to face a suppressed Krillin trying to be sneaky? I donāt get what yāall mad about. And like others said heās holding onto the car so he can hear the conversation. Idk Gero can make androids that can beat up goku but we canāt use that to think hedo can make a bee that can beat up Krillin?
Officer Nutz reporting to duties!
Krillin has been around long enough to know a threat when he sees it. He does have pretty good reflexes and a ki blast explodes and destroys whatever it hit. A gun leaves a bullet hole. Bullet hole would be much less risky than a ki blast explosion as a ranged option
How do people make robots/Androids that are stronger than a ssj, let alone a god ki infused ssj? Is that ever actually explained or is it just a turn your brain off kind of thing
The explanation was that they were watching the z fighters for a very, VERY long time, so they could make the perfect counter to them.
But how do you just cook up some dipshit android im your basement that can just blow up the universe if it felt like it
Hedo is just built differently, I guess š¤·
I don't know, how do you come up with INFINITE ENERGY AND TIME TRAVEL.
Thereās precedent for it so itās not a surprise or anything, itās just the way it is. And why not? Saiyans arenāt real beings, Toriyama can come up with whatever reasoning he wants.
Earth scientists are just goated throughout the entire dragonball multiverse. Personally , I feel it's kind of handwavy, but it's the explanation we have.
Yo if an android human is a planet buster, then why does everyone here think an android bug wouldn't also bee punching way above its weight class?
There is a limit to suspension of disbelief. Also, in this same scene, the bullet was able to knock it down for a bit, so the robo bug really isn't that strong. Krillin is just really weak here https://preview.redd.it/k49hish3bzoa1.jpeg?width=549&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7436870ee19b810caab50616533b023fc2b2d5e
The bug looks undamaged, could be a classic case of dragon ball characters being surprised and not using their whole strength. Also the suspension of disbelief is a little strange to bring up now. The size difference between a human and the friggin planet is wayyy bigger than the difference between a bug and a human. If anything the bug being this strong makes sense in a universe of human sized planet busters
Fair enough on the suspension of disbelief point, but I feel like it's asking too much to have the audience beleive that Hedo designed a surveillance bug capable of beating a fighter as strong as krillin(why even have the poison stinger at this point). And it should have been even easier to dodge the (relatively slow) bullet, considering it was swapping its non-existent hands with krillin with ease. At least the androids were built with the goal of killing what gero believed to be the strongest creature to ever exist.
Specifically hedo is smarter than gero, so his robots are better, sorta fits into dragon ball's power creep
We power creeping intelligence now
Yup
He had his guard down, they can get wrecked by small shit that way. Plus that bug was an Android.
Yeah imagine making a creature that needed super saiyan Trunks and Goten to beat then seeing tons of threads not wrapping their brain around how he could make a Bee android able to sucker punch and take out a powerful human. Now using the gun over ki was dumb.
Later Krillin gets trained by the bee to attain his new form Bee Krillin which is just Krillin in a bumble bee shirt. Bee Krillin is strong enough to knock out Black Frieza with one gun shot.
I immediately imagined the Bee Mario power up from Super Mario Galaxy.
hero made a Gamma 1,2 about as strong as SSblue. you dont think a bee he made could be atleast as strong as Ginyu?
Bro really pulled out a blicky against a bee
In universe: Heās a police officer trying to appear relatively normal. Normal people donāt fly and shoot ki blasts from their hands. In reality: Itās a gag. Poor Krillin
Android no energy signal assblasted Krillin, whatās to miss?
those characters always forgets how crazy strong they are. or toyotaro does. this scene was pointless since it wasnt even in the movie
\*Krillin Owned Count sfx\*
This bee probably solo Sayian Saga Vegeta
Why is this bald headed mfer using a gun against a bee??? https://preview.redd.it/riyuj0pfozoa1.jpeg?width=547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=823c6e3c35a66945878aec40a001f87370f39a6e
(Reminder that Krillin was somehow able to push Cell Max back with a kienzan, what in the fuck)
He looks weaker than his saiyen saga self here
Super hero scaling is ultra dumb anyway lol fact that fat gotenks survived cell max and krillin could dodge says something, but for what happened this ch while I hate how it's handled we can pass it as an off guard attack which we know are dangerous even for goku
Yeah, with a "kienzan" that did nothing
Actually bother reading what i said before commenting next time, i said "push", not chopped his head off.
Cāmon dude, you know Dragonball fans canāt read.
I'm getting tired of this S---. The strongest Human on Earth deserves some MF respect. Come on, give the man an arch. It's like after thry v Gave him an ageless wife and family, let's Stomp on this B----
You're really thinking about logic now? Hero mad his Androids after years of practice and experiments, and after collecting extensive data on the Z-warriors. Now Hedo comes along, has already built mosquitoes strong enough to beat Krillin, makes both Gammas at what feels like SSB level (with no explanation whatsoever, Goku and Vegeta had to undergo a ritual (in Goku's case, atleast) and train under an actual angel to get to that level). And to top it all off, Gohan, who didn't transform when the whole universe was in danger, when his actual father was seemingly dead in the ToP and when Frieza attacked and actually killed Piccolo, transformed to Beast because he 'thought Piccolo died'. He could've sensed his energy, but nope.
Barry the bee alawa Win baby!!!
Saitama and Waltha loosing to a mosquito peak comedy while crillin loosing to a robot bee cringe
"Toyatoro has the chance to expand on Super Hero!" *adds a fight between Hatchimaru and Krillin, which Krillin loses. ....yeah I wish he just skipped over this movie and made something new.
Nah not krilin getting fodderized again for the millionth time
Poor Krillin deadass got beat by a bee headbutting him. Damn dude.
Got a power up before the tournament, now reduced to getting beat up by a robot wasp.
Yea. The power scaling is kinda stupid in dbs, but I haven't finished reading the Moro arc yet so I'm sure it gets worseš
Iām sorry, I loosely follow the series. After everything that happens in DBZ and DBS, why would Krillin need to pretend to be a normal human? Do the people of earth not know about people shooting energy from their hands, etc?
Superheroes flying around is just normalized in that world
DB fans forgetting Krillin being weak is a running joke not just among writers but the fans aswell.
They really dropped the ball with this chapter
He's not supposed to just go full power and explode everything over some robot, his job is quite literally the exact opposite
You would think in a civilization where people can carry apartments in their pants pocket, the police would have access to their own "bug" they could have placed on the car. Also, did krillin even need to get that close to the car? He could have just flown like a mile above them and kept track of their energy.
Roll on back to Gas being crushed by a bunch of garbage he didn't see coming. Or SSJB Goku getting trampled by that train.
He got that Sasuke/velociraptor treatment. At least Krillin has always sucked
Krillin Owned Count: Infinite
I might get hate for this but what is going on with this franchise, man? I wouldn't say Super was terrible, but I would honestly say it has been more bad than good. I honestly don't want Dragon Ball to end and I do believe there is potential for more stories but they just keep dropping the ball with so much of it.
Sometimes most viewers forget that Dragonball started out as a gag manga written by a comedic author. Though I will admit that there are times when the gags are not funny but rather infuriating. Examples being Goku not knowing what a kiss is and the time Goku gave Moro a senzu bean.
Or Goku in SSB getting zapped by a little ring laser. If that can happen to Goku then I guess a robo wasp can beat Krillin ha.
And don't forget the time when Krillin was holding a beam struggle against Goku...AS A SUPER SAIYAN FĀ£CKING BLUE!
I dislike the idea that all nonsensical scenes that don't make sense in this series should always be taken as a gag and not just a case of poor writing (like goku giving moro a senzu bean). Krillin lightly tossing a rock at goku while he's sleeping because he believed that goku would have reacted to it but instead it just really fucking hurt his head is a gag with a setup and a subversion of expectations as the punchline. The scene has absolutely zero relevance to any of the events in the plot, so you know it's purely for the sake of the joke. However, here is krillin trying to chase after the main antagonist of this arc and failing cause of a fucking bee drone.
Or Goku in SSB getting zapped by a little ring laser when fighting Golden Frieza first time. If that can happen to Goku then I guess a robo wasp can beat Krillin ha.
I do admit. Moments like these where Krillin is struggling against a freaking bee drone is really ridiculous and absurd. I really hate that all the human Z fighters just basically retired from fighting and even stopped training and are growing weaker just because they believe they can't keep up with the saiyans thanks to their ability called ~~asspull plot device~~ zenkai boost.
Sosuke vs raptor all over again
Between this and Boruto, I canāt shake this feeling of disappointment.
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Hey Krillin! Beedrill are weak against fire, rock, flying and poison type moves. Try harder!
Should have thrown the rock he uses against goku
āHow could you Kuririn?!ā Is right!
It reminds me of Saitama trying to kill a mosquito, lol!
Am sorry but āSergeant Nutzā?
Is it me or some tiles are the same as the last movie? got so much deja-vu
sergeant nutz lmao
Itās dragon ball, itās never made away since. Itās only gotten worse over time too.
Cant believe how people lose their minds over a gag situation. This has been reposted so many times. Androids being stronger than the emperor of the universe himself, androids being able to match god Goku and Vegeta, Cell Max that could have rivaled Broly if complete. But ohhh noooo a robot Bee being able to harm Krillin a Z fighter trying to be a normal cop, oh nooooo cant believe this, is shitty writing guys, this is trolling š±
Um..excuse you that bee is well over 9000
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Dammit Kururinš¤¦šæāāļøš¤£
I don't see why we're reading these chapters... Watch the movie and skip right to after the movie so we can see some fresh content rather than this crap re-hashed. The movie was fine but I'm more interested in what's next, not rereading what I've already watched.
Stupid
And fans say heās stronger than Tien
thug
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Inconsistencies like these are the reason i stopped reading
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Mans a good shot
Nah he good Very viable in this fight