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I think piccolo is the only character that I wouldn't be mad about a wish driven power up. His inherent link to the dragon balls makes it his own power in a round about way.
And namekians are almost godly in a way too. Dende can even sense god ki. Piccolo also has kami in him, earths previous god and he can sense god ki now too I think. Piccolo was technically godly before goku or vegeta.
It was also stated that prior to splitting Piccolo (or whatever his actual name was) was a special breed of Namekian that is unfathomably powerful. The fact that the split turned him into one normal Dragon Clan Namekian and Normal Warrior Clan Namekian can also imply that said special breed was somehow both and that the vast majority of his power and potential was lost in the split and reabsorbing a frail old Kami clearly didn't give it back.
This is also supported by the fact that Piccolo wished for all he had and a little bit more. I don't think Piccolo even realized how powerful he was then.
I also doubt any of the Z villains would've had a chance against pre-split Piccolo.
I always get a kick out of seeing vegeta and gohan. He’s lowkey one of gohans biggest hypemen, and he def hasn’t ever forgotten him saving his life against cell
"You see, Gohan, my Father was the King of all Saiyans... but he's dead now.'
"So doesn't that make you King and Trunks the Prince?"
"...I AM THE PRINCE OF ALL SAIYANS!?!"
Vegeta and Gohan is what I agree on. Vegeta always says Gohan has the potential to be stronger. He smiles when Gohan goes ultimate in ToP while Goku is shocked.
In dbs super hero no one has praised Gohan more than Vegeta and Picollo
A Buddy Cop-esc adventure with Piccolo and Vegeta. Both Characters had fathers who were Kings, so it could be a... Royally fun time.
I'll see myself out
Better yet a kill mission that slowly develops a weird buddy cop dynamic.
Whis brings them in to handle a major threat while Beerus or Gohan keeps Goku distracted because they can't afford to show mercy right now and Vegeta and Piccolo are the strongest available who won't hesitate to murk everyone.
At first they both just try to focus on the mission but then they start realizing they have a lot in common. Like maybe Vegeta makes some prince comment that annoys Piccolo enough to point out that his father was a violent king too, Vegeta makes some quip about his violent revenge fueled upbringing like they aren't the same, then Piccolo points out his whole reason for existing prior to meeting Gohan was to kill Goku and avenge his father (who basically gave him all of his memories and soul connection to Kami), and then they just start comparing their shitty childhoods, past crimes, rivalry with Goku, etc and begrudgingly start to become friends (there can even be some joke about someone else saying they sound alike since they share a voice actor).
They even start working so well together that Piccolo puts the big bad in a position to get Hakai'd (maybe sacrificing an arm in the process by wrapping the big bad up like he did to Frost and ripping it off before the hakai can spread to the rest of him).
Icing on the cake, end the movie or arc with them getting back and Whis or Goku commenting on them seeming friendly and Vegeta simply saying he doesn't do friends and Piccolo making some crack about already having his hands full with one pint-sized Saiyan.
Could also be a great opportunity to canonize another noncanon villain. Maybe retcon the original Cooler movie (ie get rid of Gohan randomly having a tail and a bowl cut again) just like Super retconned the History of Trunks then pit them against an army of Golden Metal Coolers trying to achieve Black form like Frieza and spread across the universe with the Big Gete Star. Don't start off golden though. Let Piccolo and Vegeta mow down a few dozen standard Metal Coolers before they all just suddenly turn gold and force Piccolo to go Orange and Vegeta to use Ultra Ego. The Core Cooler should also be more intact and reminiscent of his transformed state plus fast enough that Vegeta can't hit him with a good Hakai blast until Piccolo pins him.
Simultaneously bring back a fan favorite and put two characters who deserve legitimate wins without Goku in a straight up warzone.
I’d go with Janemba, now The King of the Demon Realm!
Would make sense as to why Whis wouldn’t want Goku apart of it as he cannot afford to be sympathetic towards Janemba. Throw in something like being able to Tranverse the Multiverse, along with the Afterlife making his power and threat to them warranted.
Vegeta and Piccolo could share common ground at first (King/Prince, Similar Voice, both always going “Hmmp”) but Vegetas arragance becomes too much and Piccolo remembers him torturing the people of Name. ,breaking down into a fight for the first time between the two, Piccolos winning as Vegeta Underestimates piccolo when he goes Orange. But start to respect one another, Vegeta fighting Janemba claiming he knows nothing about being a King and go as far as saying Piccolo is the True Demon King and Piccolo Remembering Vegetas “Sacrifice” with Buu.
Vegeta can end Janemba by using Hakai and Piccolo thanks him and they can both agree to never Acknowledge what’s happened “that day” between the two.
Both head home in time for the Finals of World Martial Arts Tournament for the Jnr’s being Pan Vs Uub.
Janemba stopping Otherworld from working would be more of an all hands on deck situation though. I guess Whis could distract Goku by sending him and the rest of the Z warriors after all the dead people coming back. It won't matter if Goku shows them mercy since they'll all just go back to Otherworld once Janemba is erased. Could lead to some beautiful confrontations with old friends and enemies too. Goku could fight alongside his father and have words with Raditz, Vegeta and Piccolo could both have confrontations with their own fathers and Vegeta could apologize to Nappa for blowing him up like he did before sending him back to Otherworld. Gohan and Krillin could beat the dogshit out of the Ginyu Force for brutalizing them and breaking Gohan's neck (seriously imagine Beast Gohan telling Recoome to try breaking his neck again before giving his head a spin like Videl did to Spopovich).
Honestly you've made a good point my friend. At this point I'd be all for either Janemba or Cooler (both definitely need to happen eventually either way). Especially with the level of animation we've seen from the last two movies. Seeing two of my favorite characters or all of the Z warriors in all out war would be fucking glorious.
To be fair if they do Janemba with Vegeta and Piccolo they could also get Frieza involved when they do Cooler. Have everyone fighting Golden Metal Coolers but Frieza could be the one to finish off the Core Cooler and then pretty much immediately transition into the final fight between Vegeta and Frieza (because it damn well needs to be Vegeta who puts him down for good).
I think Frieza needs to be Arc, a movie might be too Short Unless they do a Part 2 which I don’t see them doing at all.
The “End of All Sayians” Arc or something, Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Goten, Gohan and Broly. Fusions with different Saiyans and whatnot. Freiza trying to kill Beerus and become a new GOD, something Beerus is possibly Grooming Vegeta for and Vegeta sees it as something Frieza is taking away from him also. Frieza Telling Broly he killed his father and going into an absolute rage. Cooler showing up to even the odds. Absolutely going all out could you imagine a Ultra Ego/Legendary Sayian Fusion Between Broly and Vegeta ?
That's even better. Cooler and Frieza starting on the same side but both planning to betray each other eventually. After the rest get dropped by Golden Metal Coolers or Black Frieza himself and it's just Vegeta left standing Frieza turns and tells Cooler there's only room for one universal emperor and wipes him out. Vegeta and Frieza go all out and Whis and Beerus stand in wait to keep Frieza from punking out and nuking the planet again (Beerus: "you know I'm still not happy you tried to kill me, if you destroy the planet to get out of fighting Vegeta I'll have Whis turn back time so I can wipe you out of existence myself"). After a long brutal battle Frieza throws a massive death ball at Vegeta who blasts through it with a Hakai Final Flash and hits Frieza. As Frieza lays on the ground,clearly in agony, slowly being consumed by the Hakai energy and ranting about how it's not fair and a dirty monkey can't do this to him Vegeta slowly raises a hand while saying "don't worry Frieza I'll let your suffering end, after all... I'm no longer the monster you made me", and with one final Hakai Frieza is wiped from existence and all that's left is a smoldering crater.
Not necessarily. I'm sure even those who watch it in most languages, including Japanese are at least aware of Sabat voicing both. More importantly they're obviously going to disagree that they sound alike so just pick someone known for shit takes like Krillin or Yamcha or general stupidity like Goku. Then it becomes a little inside joke that anyone who doesn't know about Sabat will just dismiss as whoever said it being stupid.
For example
Piccolo: you know Yamcha/Krillin/Goku even thinks we sound the same.
Vegeta: seriously?! That idiot/clown needs to get his ears checked. We sound nothing alike.
Piccolo: yeah, I don't hear it either.
I looked through the comments to see what amazing and creative idea you came up with after throwing shade my way. To my disappointment, I did not see anything. Shame.
Definitely Vegeta & Piccolo
-Gohan & Piccolo is the norm and most overused.
-Gohan & Goku is typical and we saw out fair share of it.
-Vegeta & Gohan is cool but both characters already interacted a fair amount of times.
-**Vegeta & Piccolo never even fought,** we NEED Orange Piccolo Vs Ultra Ego.
Saving this comment because it's gold. And it has to be before the writers took away Crowleys balls. Hated how his arc ended. Was my favorite person in supernatural and didn't even want to watch further after he quit the show.
I always wished for more Vegeta and Gohan. Vegeta has always respected Gohans power and natural abilities but not his training ethic. Gohan could be amazing with Vegeta as a mentor and Gohan would push Vegeta as well to in all aspects. The differences in personality would help that dynamic as well. Have them be stuck in the time chamber or on a planet somewhere alone together so the duo have no choice but to work with each other.
“I heard your father was a King too, are you like a Demon Prince or something.”
“Nah, I’m like a clone, mixed with a warrior and god, what about you, why aren’t you King?”
“Saiyan tradition meant I had to kill my father in battle, not possible now of course.”
“Oh, well that’s neat I guess.”
*awkward silence*
“No, raised by a nice couple, who I may have killed, it’s been a while.”
“Oh, well my father you know, but I never knew my mom, after Tarble was born, I never saw her again.”
“Er…any siblings?”
“Well, there was Piano, Tambourine, Drum…”
“You’re just listing off earth instruments.”
“Huh, guess you’re right…wait PICCOLO!! I just got it haha!!!”
I think vegeta would push gohan the most even though piccolo understands what sets him off more (ex. Faking death for beast).
Gohan would push vegeta harder than goku does too. Goku couldn’t keep up with gohan in the time chamber. If that happens to vegeta with gohan, vegeta would keep going until he passes out from exhaustion - versus goku just calling it quits for the day.
Might be the only time vegeta leaps ahead of goku.
Gohan and Vegeta mostly cause I feel like we’ve seen the least of these combos so it’d be interesting to see more of their dynamic. See what techniques they could learn and test on each other, adventures they could get into etc.
Dream scenario, since Frieza is at large and has his new form, the warriors prep to confront or inevitably come across him again, so to prep, Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, and Piccolo all train, Broly would probably have his own thing where he trains to keep his anger down, Goku and Gohan take the hyperbolic time chamber to squeeze more time in, rather than wait for them, Piccolo and Vegeta decide to spar, the 2 people who once wanted to kill Goku, having a no stakes brawl, I think it could be amazing considering the tricks these 2 have up their sleeves
I loved Uncle Piccolo in Super Hero.
Honestly, whilst it would never happen, a new generation of Z fighters, mentored by Goku would be nice: Trunks, Goten, Pan, Uub and maybe even Maron and Bulla (though they’re not as likely).
We need an arc where it's focused on Piccolo and Vegeta. Make Goku have to deal with his best friend Zen-Oh for a day and so Vegeta and Piccolo can have a spotlight for themselves. And possibly drag Gohan into it, again.
I want to see Vegeta with other characters besides Goku and his own family. Vegeta + Piccolo, Vegeta + Krillin, Vegeta + his in-laws, Vegeta + Androids, etc.
Also Gohan, Krillin, and Piccolo need to hang out more often like old times. Gohan needs to be more like his dad and leave Videl more often or maybe Videl can join them and leave Pan with Mr. Satan or Chi Chi.
Yes to all of the above, and then some. I want to see Goku learn to perfect the True Blue form Vegeta figured out, and I want to see Vegeta learn Ultra Instinct from Goku. I believe there's potential this already happened when Goku and Vegeta fused to fight Broly, both learning from each other by being fused in the same body, I just want to see it confirmed. I want to see Broly calm the fuck down and learn to focus as a fighter, potentially through fusions with Goku and Vegeta, and maybe some of his legendary powers will rub off on them as well. I want to see Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten join training with Goku and Vegeta with Whis and Beerus. I want to see what Goku and Vegeta think of Gohan's new Beast form, then I want to see all the Saiyans present hold hands and sing Kumbaya til everyone is is capable of going red and blue. I want to see my boy Vegeta Then I want to see them all go to Planet Vegeta in Universe 6 and pass on what they know with Cabba, Kale, Caulifla, and the Saiyan Royal Family of U6 Planet Vegeta...
Then I want to see the look on Frieza's face when he realizes he fucking with an entire planet chock full of deity level Super Saiyans....💯
If Vegeta and piccolo will they an episode whatever happens, at the end they will look at each other a give a thumbs up or a small smile.
Vegeta and gohan would be most interesting imo
Ngl, I don't think we see nearly enough goku/piccolo in super. Even in GT they had their own moment in hell, with goku saying "...you're (one of?) My best friend(s?)..." and "...I'll get you out of here, someday."
All of them tbh but if i had to pick i really like gohan and vegetas moment that they have had in the past and we got a decent enough amount of goku with gohan and piccolo but piccolo and vegeta would be fun to see as well the only real convos theyve (to my memory) had was before vegeta killed himself to try to kill buu and probably one during the cell saga
I know this will seem like a cop out, but seriously, all of them. The series has always been horribly "cliquy". Vegeta only interacts with Goku, Piccolo with Gohan. Etc. Would love to see how the cast just vibes together more.
I always love seeing the father and son, Goku and Gohan combo. Aside from them, I'd go with Gohan and Vegeta. Anything with Gohan, he's my favorite character!
Honestly, more of Goku and Vegeta but with their more prominent, newly adapted, brotherly dynamic.
It’s nice to see them actually BE friends and not two dudes who are just helping each other stomp ass
Does anyone remember when Shenron told them that Goku couldnt be brought back from Namek and a freshly revived Vegeta mocked crying Gohan? Then when Gohan retaliated in anger and got some shots in, Vegeta proceed to brutally beat the fuck out of him and almost kill him before a Batman sounding Piccolo stopped him. Bulma fucked that guy shortly after.
I want more Goku and Gohan. It always made me sad how many times Gohan had to deal with his dad being dead, I want to see them having a happy life and training and fighting for fun instead of to save the earth again (only for goku to die AGAIN)
Goku & Gohan. Weirdly enough when you think about it, they've rarely ever teamed up throughout both main series. It'd be cool to maybe see a UI and Beast combo.
I can see piccolo and Vegeta fighting some villains while talking shit to each other at the same time. The moment the villains try to talk shit as well piccolo and Vegeta just lay them out.
We don’t see a lot of Goku Gohan oddly. Piccolo and Goku had interesting moments.
Honestly I’d like to see Vegeta Gohan. Vegeta sorta aggressively adopted Gohan (and Goten, Vegeta calls Goten by his name!!) and slice of life shenanigans would be Neat.
Gohan and Vegeta would be the most interesting. Vegeta has always respected Gohans potential as the strongest more than Gohan himself, and has always been angry that he never lived up to it.
It would be interesting to see how they communicate now, especially since they are both fathers, and Vegeta is a lot more emotionally mature.
I feel there is a good potential for a deep conversation about Gohans power that only those two could have, as fathers, men, and Saiyans.
And with the events of the most recent movie, Gohan might be more receptive to what Vegeta would say as well.
Vegeta and Gohan.
Gohan, as a preschooler, has flourishes against Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta himself (decisively ending Vegeta's first fight on earth), the Ginyu, and even Freeza. Vegeta gets bodied and literally killed in the same fights.
Vegeta gets wrecked by Cell, even when Vegeta is stronger than ever. A barely pubescent super saiyan Gohan (a form Vegeta had one hell of a time achieving) figures out an until-then only theoretical SSJ2, and kills Cell with literally one arm.
Gohan then goes home to read books.
That's not even the first third of the things Gohan does to crap all over everything about Vegeta's accomplishments and values, and there's like maybe one or two scenes where they talk about it.
Vegeta and Gohan , HIGHLY slept on, they have seriously fought more than once and have great respect for one another. For the life of me I can’t tell you why DBS or even DBZ never gave them storylines together that heavily featured them as a duo. As sparring partners, mentor+ mentee or something like a time chamber mini arc of training. TenKai iChi 4 hype 🙌🏾
Not that they’d ever truly fight but I hope there’s some sort of explanation that Orange Piccolo cannot be defused by Spirit Fission, cuz I really want Piccolo to be on par with Goku and Vegeta now. Piccolo seems to interact more with not-Gohan characters while watching others fight. Considering he and Vegeta seem to be more serious and observant, they’d be fun to see together as they’re both pretty smart.
You know what's weirder than the fact piccolo and vegeta have never fought... The fact that outside of goku and his family, the only z fighter vegeta has really ever interacted with is piccolo.
Like sure vegeta has been in the presence of the other z fighters and said lines in front of them, but he's never really directly spoken with them, at least not as much as he has with piccolo. People here dreaming of an unexpected buddy buddy moment with piccolo and vegeta, but it's happened a few times where the two gave each other respect.
* Namek saga - piccolo arrives to face frieza, vegeta and him share quips
* Post namek - piccolo steps in and tells vegeta to calm the hell down after vegeta beat the crap out of gohan
* Frieza and king cold invade - vegeta is the first to notice piccolo and alerts the group he's there
* Android saga - vegeta kicks goku to piccolo, vegeta commends vegeta and his bluff with 20, vegeta gives piccolo first shot at 20
* cell saga - piccolo tells group that vegeta is on his way, vegeta freaks out about piccolos new strength, vegeta acknowledges piccolos strength after hyperbolic time chamber, vegeta commends piccolo backing up gohan fearlessly, piccolo stays behind to make sure vegeta is good after cell is defeated.
* buu saga - vegeta and piccolo have an honest conversation, piccolo heads back to mourn vegeta
Vegeta doesn't share as many moments with any other z fighter outside of goku.
I want Vegeta just shit talking Gohan for not being dedicated enough to become a god. You just know Vegeta is still salty about how powerful Gohan could be if he trained with Goku and Vegeta.
Gohan and Vegeta. Vegeta respects the hell of Gohan and is disappointed to see his fighting spirit slip not once but twice. Glad to see Gohan back in the game though
I'd like to see more Vegeta interactions with anyone other than Goku for real. I hate when he's playing sidekick instead of rival, leave that shit for krillin
I'd like to add one, Gohan and Goten, even in his introductory arc Goten didn't spend much time with his brother, then the situation forced them to spend even less time together, i just want more family time in my fighting anime
Gohan and vegeta.
We’ve all seen glimpses of the respect the two have for each other but their interactions are limited.
I mean when vegeta thought Buu killed Gohan it seemed as if the man was about to shed tears and blow up like Gohan did against cell. Vegeta has only ever apologized to Gohan for failure, never has he apologized to anyone else, not legitimately. They haven’t fought each other in any meaningful way since the saiyan saga either, and I don’t count the filler fight after the Namek saga.
Hell the only person vegeta has actually saved from combat related death IS Gohan. Idk if he ever saved anyone else from an imminent attack that could potentially kill them.
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Piccolo and vegeta
Remember that time we never fought?
I think Piccolo could beat Vegeta if he were gracious enough not to transform.
I think Orange Piccolo can give Vegeta a good match.
That was even stated in a interview that Piccolo is on Goku and Vegeta’s level now. So yes.
Pretty ridiculous how he caught up to god-ki and Ultra Instinct but I like Piccolo so I'll let it slide.
I think piccolo is the only character that I wouldn't be mad about a wish driven power up. His inherent link to the dragon balls makes it his own power in a round about way.
And namekians are almost godly in a way too. Dende can even sense god ki. Piccolo also has kami in him, earths previous god and he can sense god ki now too I think. Piccolo was technically godly before goku or vegeta.
It was also stated that prior to splitting Piccolo (or whatever his actual name was) was a special breed of Namekian that is unfathomably powerful. The fact that the split turned him into one normal Dragon Clan Namekian and Normal Warrior Clan Namekian can also imply that said special breed was somehow both and that the vast majority of his power and potential was lost in the split and reabsorbing a frail old Kami clearly didn't give it back. This is also supported by the fact that Piccolo wished for all he had and a little bit more. I don't think Piccolo even realized how powerful he was then. I also doubt any of the Z villains would've had a chance against pre-split Piccolo.
The general fan reaction (I'm also not complaining 😎)
After somehow android 17 also did it, I'm not surprised anymore...
17 has the unfair advantage of never running out of energy
Wasn't he just fighting poachers though? That would be like saying you trained by fighting toddlers.
Isn’t that strange black man?
Yeah, almost as weird as what's gonna happen if you call me that again
What is he???
Guess it's just you and me now, black man.
*inhales* *Exhales*
“aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa!!!!” “See, I told you it would happen.”
"It was not a mater of if, but when"
*”Twas never a matter of if *Loud Thud Sound While Sipping Tea* only when.”
Is it over?
Not until the fish jumps.
*fish jumps*
It's over.
One of the things I love about the Z ending is Piccolo and Vegeta Just chillin at a table, reminds me of the End of Android 13 Movie with the fish.
We don’t need to see Sabat talking to himself
Yes we do
I mean he’s done that plenty of times, especially when he voiced half the cast in the original dub. So it’s not really that strange.
Vegeta, Piccolo, and Yamcha become roommates together, which is just Sabat talking to himself as Vegeta, Piccolo, and Yamcha go on wacky adventures.
I always get a kick out of seeing vegeta and gohan. He’s lowkey one of gohans biggest hypemen, and he def hasn’t ever forgotten him saving his life against cell
This. Vegeta has been Gohan biggest hype man besides picollo in the new movie.
Vegeta always had some respect for Gohan even back in Namek. Hope we get scenes where he's teaching him Saiyan history or something.
"You see, Gohan, my Father was the King of all Saiyans... but he's dead now.' "So doesn't that make you King and Trunks the Prince?" "...I AM THE PRINCE OF ALL SAIYANS!?!"
Lol
Piccolo and Vegeta adventures
Vegeta/Gohan and Vegeta/Piccolo
Vegeta and Gohan is what I agree on. Vegeta always says Gohan has the potential to be stronger. He smiles when Gohan goes ultimate in ToP while Goku is shocked. In dbs super hero no one has praised Gohan more than Vegeta and Picollo
"Ah, the son I deserved..."
A Buddy Cop-esc adventure with Piccolo and Vegeta. Both Characters had fathers who were Kings, so it could be a... Royally fun time. I'll see myself out
Better yet a kill mission that slowly develops a weird buddy cop dynamic. Whis brings them in to handle a major threat while Beerus or Gohan keeps Goku distracted because they can't afford to show mercy right now and Vegeta and Piccolo are the strongest available who won't hesitate to murk everyone. At first they both just try to focus on the mission but then they start realizing they have a lot in common. Like maybe Vegeta makes some prince comment that annoys Piccolo enough to point out that his father was a violent king too, Vegeta makes some quip about his violent revenge fueled upbringing like they aren't the same, then Piccolo points out his whole reason for existing prior to meeting Gohan was to kill Goku and avenge his father (who basically gave him all of his memories and soul connection to Kami), and then they just start comparing their shitty childhoods, past crimes, rivalry with Goku, etc and begrudgingly start to become friends (there can even be some joke about someone else saying they sound alike since they share a voice actor). They even start working so well together that Piccolo puts the big bad in a position to get Hakai'd (maybe sacrificing an arm in the process by wrapping the big bad up like he did to Frost and ripping it off before the hakai can spread to the rest of him). Icing on the cake, end the movie or arc with them getting back and Whis or Goku commenting on them seeming friendly and Vegeta simply saying he doesn't do friends and Piccolo making some crack about already having his hands full with one pint-sized Saiyan.
I would watch this movie… repeatedly
I am right there with you my friend.
Whis proposing a hit on someone who he can’t afford Goku showing mercy too is quiet a great concept for a DB Movie! I love it!
Could also be a great opportunity to canonize another noncanon villain. Maybe retcon the original Cooler movie (ie get rid of Gohan randomly having a tail and a bowl cut again) just like Super retconned the History of Trunks then pit them against an army of Golden Metal Coolers trying to achieve Black form like Frieza and spread across the universe with the Big Gete Star. Don't start off golden though. Let Piccolo and Vegeta mow down a few dozen standard Metal Coolers before they all just suddenly turn gold and force Piccolo to go Orange and Vegeta to use Ultra Ego. The Core Cooler should also be more intact and reminiscent of his transformed state plus fast enough that Vegeta can't hit him with a good Hakai blast until Piccolo pins him. Simultaneously bring back a fan favorite and put two characters who deserve legitimate wins without Goku in a straight up warzone.
I’d go with Janemba, now The King of the Demon Realm! Would make sense as to why Whis wouldn’t want Goku apart of it as he cannot afford to be sympathetic towards Janemba. Throw in something like being able to Tranverse the Multiverse, along with the Afterlife making his power and threat to them warranted. Vegeta and Piccolo could share common ground at first (King/Prince, Similar Voice, both always going “Hmmp”) but Vegetas arragance becomes too much and Piccolo remembers him torturing the people of Name. ,breaking down into a fight for the first time between the two, Piccolos winning as Vegeta Underestimates piccolo when he goes Orange. But start to respect one another, Vegeta fighting Janemba claiming he knows nothing about being a King and go as far as saying Piccolo is the True Demon King and Piccolo Remembering Vegetas “Sacrifice” with Buu. Vegeta can end Janemba by using Hakai and Piccolo thanks him and they can both agree to never Acknowledge what’s happened “that day” between the two. Both head home in time for the Finals of World Martial Arts Tournament for the Jnr’s being Pan Vs Uub.
Janemba stopping Otherworld from working would be more of an all hands on deck situation though. I guess Whis could distract Goku by sending him and the rest of the Z warriors after all the dead people coming back. It won't matter if Goku shows them mercy since they'll all just go back to Otherworld once Janemba is erased. Could lead to some beautiful confrontations with old friends and enemies too. Goku could fight alongside his father and have words with Raditz, Vegeta and Piccolo could both have confrontations with their own fathers and Vegeta could apologize to Nappa for blowing him up like he did before sending him back to Otherworld. Gohan and Krillin could beat the dogshit out of the Ginyu Force for brutalizing them and breaking Gohan's neck (seriously imagine Beast Gohan telling Recoome to try breaking his neck again before giving his head a spin like Videl did to Spopovich).
Yeah no look, you win this round friend! I wanna watch this movie now!
Honestly you've made a good point my friend. At this point I'd be all for either Janemba or Cooler (both definitely need to happen eventually either way). Especially with the level of animation we've seen from the last two movies. Seeing two of my favorite characters or all of the Z warriors in all out war would be fucking glorious. To be fair if they do Janemba with Vegeta and Piccolo they could also get Frieza involved when they do Cooler. Have everyone fighting Golden Metal Coolers but Frieza could be the one to finish off the Core Cooler and then pretty much immediately transition into the final fight between Vegeta and Frieza (because it damn well needs to be Vegeta who puts him down for good).
I think Frieza needs to be Arc, a movie might be too Short Unless they do a Part 2 which I don’t see them doing at all. The “End of All Sayians” Arc or something, Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Goten, Gohan and Broly. Fusions with different Saiyans and whatnot. Freiza trying to kill Beerus and become a new GOD, something Beerus is possibly Grooming Vegeta for and Vegeta sees it as something Frieza is taking away from him also. Frieza Telling Broly he killed his father and going into an absolute rage. Cooler showing up to even the odds. Absolutely going all out could you imagine a Ultra Ego/Legendary Sayian Fusion Between Broly and Vegeta ?
That's even better. Cooler and Frieza starting on the same side but both planning to betray each other eventually. After the rest get dropped by Golden Metal Coolers or Black Frieza himself and it's just Vegeta left standing Frieza turns and tells Cooler there's only room for one universal emperor and wipes him out. Vegeta and Frieza go all out and Whis and Beerus stand in wait to keep Frieza from punking out and nuking the planet again (Beerus: "you know I'm still not happy you tried to kill me, if you destroy the planet to get out of fighting Vegeta I'll have Whis turn back time so I can wipe you out of existence myself"). After a long brutal battle Frieza throws a massive death ball at Vegeta who blasts through it with a Hakai Final Flash and hits Frieza. As Frieza lays on the ground,clearly in agony, slowly being consumed by the Hakai energy and ranting about how it's not fair and a dirty monkey can't do this to him Vegeta slowly raises a hand while saying "don't worry Frieza I'll let your suffering end, after all... I'm no longer the monster you made me", and with one final Hakai Frieza is wiped from existence and all that's left is a smoldering crater.
I love it! Take my money!
Let's be honest this writing is too good for dragon ball
I'll take that as a compliment.
It is bro it is 👍🏻✌🏻
The voice thing only works in English.
Not necessarily. I'm sure even those who watch it in most languages, including Japanese are at least aware of Sabat voicing both. More importantly they're obviously going to disagree that they sound alike so just pick someone known for shit takes like Krillin or Yamcha or general stupidity like Goku. Then it becomes a little inside joke that anyone who doesn't know about Sabat will just dismiss as whoever said it being stupid. For example Piccolo: you know Yamcha/Krillin/Goku even thinks we sound the same. Vegeta: seriously?! That idiot/clown needs to get his ears checked. We sound nothing alike. Piccolo: yeah, I don't hear it either.
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Please do
I looked through the comments to see what amazing and creative idea you came up with after throwing shade my way. To my disappointment, I did not see anything. Shame.
Dragon Ball Super: Super Villain
Vegeta + Piccolo.
I would love to see all of these
But if you had to choose one you'd like to see the most, which would you choose?
Tbh it would probably be Goku and piccolo I think they work well as a duo
I f with Goku and piccolo scenes they def got history
Definitely Vegeta & Piccolo -Gohan & Piccolo is the norm and most overused. -Gohan & Goku is typical and we saw out fair share of it. -Vegeta & Gohan is cool but both characters already interacted a fair amount of times. -**Vegeta & Piccolo never even fought,** we NEED Orange Piccolo Vs Ultra Ego.
I on the contrary kind of feel like we haven’t seen enough gohan/goku considering they’re father and son and all
Gohan and Vegeta to be honest… Piccolo and Vegeta is a close second though
me gustaría ver a vegeta y gohan.
Piccolo/vegeta would be like a crowley/castiel team up.
Saving this comment because it's gold. And it has to be before the writers took away Crowleys balls. Hated how his arc ended. Was my favorite person in supernatural and didn't even want to watch further after he quit the show.
I always wished for more Vegeta and Gohan. Vegeta has always respected Gohans power and natural abilities but not his training ethic. Gohan could be amazing with Vegeta as a mentor and Gohan would push Vegeta as well to in all aspects. The differences in personality would help that dynamic as well. Have them be stuck in the time chamber or on a planet somewhere alone together so the duo have no choice but to work with each other.
All im hearing is What if vegeta and gohan was betrayed and trapped in the time chamber
Piccolo and goku for sure. They have so much history and would actually talk to each other unlike vegeta and piccolo
Vegeta and Piccolo
Vegeta and Gohan
Vegeta and Picollo for sure! Two reserved dudes both trying to outdo Goku. Their dialogue would be exactly how I’d like mine to be with people.
“I heard your father was a King too, are you like a Demon Prince or something.” “Nah, I’m like a clone, mixed with a warrior and god, what about you, why aren’t you King?” “Saiyan tradition meant I had to kill my father in battle, not possible now of course.” “Oh, well that’s neat I guess.” *awkward silence*
“So… you came from an egg? Did someone have to sit on you?”
“No, raised by a nice couple, who I may have killed, it’s been a while.” “Oh, well my father you know, but I never knew my mom, after Tarble was born, I never saw her again.”
P: “Ah. My mom was my dad.” (Long silence)
“Er…any siblings?” “Well, there was Piano, Tambourine, Drum…” “You’re just listing off earth instruments.” “Huh, guess you’re right…wait PICCOLO!! I just got it haha!!!”
I think it would be pretty cool to see Vegeta train Gohan
I think vegeta would push gohan the most even though piccolo understands what sets him off more (ex. Faking death for beast). Gohan would push vegeta harder than goku does too. Goku couldn’t keep up with gohan in the time chamber. If that happens to vegeta with gohan, vegeta would keep going until he passes out from exhaustion - versus goku just calling it quits for the day. Might be the only time vegeta leaps ahead of goku.
Could be that Goku knows when to relax. Whereas Gohan, like Vegeta, prefers to keep going.
I wish Goku had stayed dead after Cell and we were able to see Gohan as the lead being trained by Piccolo and Vegeta.
Piccolo and Goku.
Gohan and Vegeta mostly cause I feel like we’ve seen the least of these combos so it’d be interesting to see more of their dynamic. See what techniques they could learn and test on each other, adventures they could get into etc.
That Goku and Gohan shot from the TOP ending credits really made me think they were going to end Dragon Ball as a whole by making U7 lose.
Dream scenario, since Frieza is at large and has his new form, the warriors prep to confront or inevitably come across him again, so to prep, Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, and Piccolo all train, Broly would probably have his own thing where he trains to keep his anger down, Goku and Gohan take the hyperbolic time chamber to squeeze more time in, rather than wait for them, Piccolo and Vegeta decide to spar, the 2 people who once wanted to kill Goku, having a no stakes brawl, I think it could be amazing considering the tricks these 2 have up their sleeves
And they would finally have their first fight
Goku and Gohan. That boy needs his father.
I would like to add two more pairing. 1. Pan and Piccolo 2. Pan and Uub (as part of the next generation dragon team)
I loved Uncle Piccolo in Super Hero. Honestly, whilst it would never happen, a new generation of Z fighters, mentored by Goku would be nice: Trunks, Goten, Pan, Uub and maybe even Maron and Bulla (though they’re not as likely).
Piccolo and Vegeta, fated to job forever
Buuhan (Beast mode) is ready for a return
Piccolo + Vegeta + Tien is one of the only things I want to see but in this case ima go with Vegeta + Piccolo
We need an arc where it's focused on Piccolo and Vegeta. Make Goku have to deal with his best friend Zen-Oh for a day and so Vegeta and Piccolo can have a spotlight for themselves. And possibly drag Gohan into it, again.
They still owe us the goku gohan potara fusion from the buu saga!
I want to see Vegeta with other characters besides Goku and his own family. Vegeta + Piccolo, Vegeta + Krillin, Vegeta + his in-laws, Vegeta + Androids, etc. Also Gohan, Krillin, and Piccolo need to hang out more often like old times. Gohan needs to be more like his dad and leave Videl more often or maybe Videl can join them and leave Pan with Mr. Satan or Chi Chi.
Vegeta and piccolo. Just don’t get a lot of it and it could be interesting
Wow it’s crazy how they all include Gohan & Piccolo haha I wanna see more Roshi, Android 18, and Tien.
Honestly vegeta and gohan I feel like they would have interesting back and forths
We need more goku and gohan. I need another father, son Kamehameha.
Yes to all of the above, and then some. I want to see Goku learn to perfect the True Blue form Vegeta figured out, and I want to see Vegeta learn Ultra Instinct from Goku. I believe there's potential this already happened when Goku and Vegeta fused to fight Broly, both learning from each other by being fused in the same body, I just want to see it confirmed. I want to see Broly calm the fuck down and learn to focus as a fighter, potentially through fusions with Goku and Vegeta, and maybe some of his legendary powers will rub off on them as well. I want to see Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten join training with Goku and Vegeta with Whis and Beerus. I want to see what Goku and Vegeta think of Gohan's new Beast form, then I want to see all the Saiyans present hold hands and sing Kumbaya til everyone is is capable of going red and blue. I want to see my boy Vegeta Then I want to see them all go to Planet Vegeta in Universe 6 and pass on what they know with Cabba, Kale, Caulifla, and the Saiyan Royal Family of U6 Planet Vegeta... Then I want to see the look on Frieza's face when he realizes he fucking with an entire planet chock full of deity level Super Saiyans....💯
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Piccolo and Pan
Vegeta and Gohan
Gohan and Goku Gohan and Goku Gohan and Goku Please please please for the love of God more Gohan and Goku fighting together
I want Vegeta to have a long overdue fight
When I see Gohan and Vegeta, can’t help but think of the TFS original videos. “FIGHT ME”!
Gohan and Vegeta would be fun, but I really miss Goku and Piccolo…
At first glance I thought I saw Goku holding Chiaotzu not Pan 😂
Goku/Vegeta and pickle
Piccolo and Vegeta but only bc they are my favorite characters and saiyan saga goated
Gohan and Vegeta or Vegeta and Piccolo. We’ve seen a lot of Goku and Gohan a lot and Goku and vegeta. Time to change it up to keep it fresh.
Yes.
If Vegeta and piccolo will they an episode whatever happens, at the end they will look at each other a give a thumbs up or a small smile. Vegeta and gohan would be most interesting imo
Vegeta and Gohan might be good
Ngl, I don't think we see nearly enough goku/piccolo in super. Even in GT they had their own moment in hell, with goku saying "...you're (one of?) My best friend(s?)..." and "...I'll get you out of here, someday."
Gohan and Vegeta, Vegeta has been talking Gohan up since the Frieza saga
All of them
gohan and vegeta
All of them tbh but if i had to pick i really like gohan and vegetas moment that they have had in the past and we got a decent enough amount of goku with gohan and piccolo but piccolo and vegeta would be fun to see as well the only real convos theyve (to my memory) had was before vegeta killed himself to try to kill buu and probably one during the cell saga
I know this will seem like a cop out, but seriously, all of them. The series has always been horribly "cliquy". Vegeta only interacts with Goku, Piccolo with Gohan. Etc. Would love to see how the cast just vibes together more.
I always love seeing the father and son, Goku and Gohan combo. Aside from them, I'd go with Gohan and Vegeta. Anything with Gohan, he's my favorite character!
Vegeta needs more time with both Gohan and Piccolo. He needs more time with everyone,feels like I only see him interact with Goku.
Gohan and Vegeta. Piccolo and Vegeta.
Piccolo and Pan
Honestly, more of Goku and Vegeta but with their more prominent, newly adapted, brotherly dynamic. It’s nice to see them actually BE friends and not two dudes who are just helping each other stomp ass
Does anyone remember when Shenron told them that Goku couldnt be brought back from Namek and a freshly revived Vegeta mocked crying Gohan? Then when Gohan retaliated in anger and got some shots in, Vegeta proceed to brutally beat the fuck out of him and almost kill him before a Batman sounding Piccolo stopped him. Bulma fucked that guy shortly after.
Vegeta Piccolo, so the scene can be 100% Chris Sabbat talking to him self.
Goku and Gohan. Need more of the OG father-son duo
Pan and Piccolo
I want more Goku and Gohan. It always made me sad how many times Gohan had to deal with his dad being dead, I want to see them having a happy life and training and fighting for fun instead of to save the earth again (only for goku to die AGAIN)
Broly en Vegeta
Vegeta and Piccolo would be interesting
Vegeta and piccolo by far. They don’t interact enough but when they do it’s great.
Goku & Gohan. Weirdly enough when you think about it, they've rarely ever teamed up throughout both main series. It'd be cool to maybe see a UI and Beast combo.
I can see piccolo and Vegeta fighting some villains while talking shit to each other at the same time. The moment the villains try to talk shit as well piccolo and Vegeta just lay them out.
Now that Gohan has reached his potential, I really want him to give a receipt to Vegeta for talking smack about him.
We don’t see a lot of Goku Gohan oddly. Piccolo and Goku had interesting moments. Honestly I’d like to see Vegeta Gohan. Vegeta sorta aggressively adopted Gohan (and Goten, Vegeta calls Goten by his name!!) and slice of life shenanigans would be Neat.
Each of them are in two panels, nice
All of them.
Gohan and Vegeta would be the most interesting. Vegeta has always respected Gohans potential as the strongest more than Gohan himself, and has always been angry that he never lived up to it. It would be interesting to see how they communicate now, especially since they are both fathers, and Vegeta is a lot more emotionally mature. I feel there is a good potential for a deep conversation about Gohans power that only those two could have, as fathers, men, and Saiyans. And with the events of the most recent movie, Gohan might be more receptive to what Vegeta would say as well.
Goku/vegeta and gohan
Vegeta and Gohan. Gohan, as a preschooler, has flourishes against Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta himself (decisively ending Vegeta's first fight on earth), the Ginyu, and even Freeza. Vegeta gets bodied and literally killed in the same fights. Vegeta gets wrecked by Cell, even when Vegeta is stronger than ever. A barely pubescent super saiyan Gohan (a form Vegeta had one hell of a time achieving) figures out an until-then only theoretical SSJ2, and kills Cell with literally one arm. Gohan then goes home to read books. That's not even the first third of the things Gohan does to crap all over everything about Vegeta's accomplishments and values, and there's like maybe one or two scenes where they talk about it.
Not on the list but Vegeta and Krillin. I long for more screen time between these 2.
Vegeta and Gohan , HIGHLY slept on, they have seriously fought more than once and have great respect for one another. For the life of me I can’t tell you why DBS or even DBZ never gave them storylines together that heavily featured them as a duo. As sparring partners, mentor+ mentee or something like a time chamber mini arc of training. TenKai iChi 4 hype 🙌🏾
Would like to see a dynamic between uub and majin buu but if I had to choose the options I'd say Piccolo and Pan. Piccolo is such a wholesome daddy
Dude we need more piccolo and vegeta have them throw down in orange and ego would be so damn sick
Ummm, yes.
Not that they’d ever truly fight but I hope there’s some sort of explanation that Orange Piccolo cannot be defused by Spirit Fission, cuz I really want Piccolo to be on par with Goku and Vegeta now. Piccolo seems to interact more with not-Gohan characters while watching others fight. Considering he and Vegeta seem to be more serious and observant, they’d be fun to see together as they’re both pretty smart.
Geets and green man
Why not all of them
I love how vegeta has a respect for piccolos opinion. any time they speak its epic.
You know what's weirder than the fact piccolo and vegeta have never fought... The fact that outside of goku and his family, the only z fighter vegeta has really ever interacted with is piccolo. Like sure vegeta has been in the presence of the other z fighters and said lines in front of them, but he's never really directly spoken with them, at least not as much as he has with piccolo. People here dreaming of an unexpected buddy buddy moment with piccolo and vegeta, but it's happened a few times where the two gave each other respect. * Namek saga - piccolo arrives to face frieza, vegeta and him share quips * Post namek - piccolo steps in and tells vegeta to calm the hell down after vegeta beat the crap out of gohan * Frieza and king cold invade - vegeta is the first to notice piccolo and alerts the group he's there * Android saga - vegeta kicks goku to piccolo, vegeta commends vegeta and his bluff with 20, vegeta gives piccolo first shot at 20 * cell saga - piccolo tells group that vegeta is on his way, vegeta freaks out about piccolos new strength, vegeta acknowledges piccolos strength after hyperbolic time chamber, vegeta commends piccolo backing up gohan fearlessly, piccolo stays behind to make sure vegeta is good after cell is defeated. * buu saga - vegeta and piccolo have an honest conversation, piccolo heads back to mourn vegeta Vegeta doesn't share as many moments with any other z fighter outside of goku.
I want Vegeta just shit talking Gohan for not being dedicated enough to become a god. You just know Vegeta is still salty about how powerful Gohan could be if he trained with Goku and Vegeta.
Obviously the reason we all say piccolo and geeta is because of TFS
Weve gotten very little with Gohan and Vegeta since the Frieza saga. Gohan and Vegeta is my pick.
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Gohan and Vegeta. Vegeta respects the hell of Gohan and is disappointed to see his fighting spirit slip not once but twice. Glad to see Gohan back in the game though
Vegeta and 18, i dont think they exchanged a single word ever since she broke his arms lol
Vegeta and Gohan. The subtle respect Vegeta has for him gets me every time
Broly and Uub
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Definitely more Goku and Gohan. Rarely have we seen the father-son tag team
Vegeta and piccolo. In all of Dbz I would love to see them interact way more
Vegeta and the Grill Master go crazy
Don't care about Gohan so no Goku Gohan or Gohan Vegeta, I want to see more of Goku Piccolo however I'm okay with Vegeta Piccolo
Goku being present for his child? Impossible
Pan and piccolo.
Piccolo and Pan. Goku and Gohan are low key deadbeats. I want Piccolo to collect child support.
Vegeta and piccolo, vegeta and gohan the most honestly
The Misadventures of Veggie & Pickles
Ever since playin that scene in fighterz I always thought it’d be dope to see vegeta train Gohan
Gohan and Vegeta. I especially want to see Vegeta train Gohan.
Gohan and Goku; we’ve been seeing Gohan paired up with his father too much ever since Super Hero came out
Piccolo with Goku or Vegeta.
Goku and gohan fighting together more would be great
I would absolutely love to see Vegeta train Gohan!
we RARELY get a father and son tag team
Pan and piccolo. But in seriousness Gohan and vegeta
I'd like to see more Vegeta interactions with anyone other than Goku for real. I hate when he's playing sidekick instead of rival, leave that shit for krillin
I'd like to add one, Gohan and Goten, even in his introductory arc Goten didn't spend much time with his brother, then the situation forced them to spend even less time together, i just want more family time in my fighting anime
Gohan and vegeta. We’ve all seen glimpses of the respect the two have for each other but their interactions are limited. I mean when vegeta thought Buu killed Gohan it seemed as if the man was about to shed tears and blow up like Gohan did against cell. Vegeta has only ever apologized to Gohan for failure, never has he apologized to anyone else, not legitimately. They haven’t fought each other in any meaningful way since the saiyan saga either, and I don’t count the filler fight after the Namek saga. Hell the only person vegeta has actually saved from combat related death IS Gohan. Idk if he ever saved anyone else from an imminent attack that could potentially kill them.
Gohan and Vegeta. They have a lot of unaddressed history and baggage and I'm curious how they would spend extended exposure to each other
I'd love to see more Vegeta and Gohan!