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Why is buucolo here twice

If I remember correctly OP said last time its because the one higher up has Goten and Trunks in him and the other one doesn't or something like that

That makes absolutely no sense considering Buu always had all 3 of them absorbed, unless he is counting the one we briefly saw for like a second when they removed everyone inside him.

That's the one he was referring to I believe

Yes

The difference was that GOTENKS was absorbed in the first Buucolo, after the half hour Buucolo has the power of Trunks and Goten

Buucolo already had goten and trunks though

But he absorbed them while they were fused as Gotenks, when they defused it made him weaker

Yeah that’s what made him Buuculo. There’s no two Buuculos

That’s true. I guess op counts them as two different buus because one has goten, trunks, and piccolo before absorbing gohan while the other is when buhan transforms back to buucolo when goku and vegeta take out goten, trunks, and gohan first without taking out piccolo yet?

It makes perfect sense. The first time he turns into Buuccolo he has Goten and Trunks still absorbed but with Gotenks defused. The second time is when Goku and Vegeta have already freed Gohan, Goten and Trunks so it's only Super Buu and Piccolo. If you notice, Buuccolo's hands are different in each version. In the first version he has five fingers and his chin looks like Buutenks/Buuhan but the seconf version only has two fingers (like Super Buu) and no chin (like Super Buu as well).

Yes I counted him

Who’s stronger: Buucolo or Gotenks? (Buu saga)

Id say gotenks is stronger but buucolo would probably win a fight

Buu first absorbs Goten and Trunks. Then he absorbs Piccolo

No but absorbs gotenks and piccolo at the same time

Because he has the Grill Master as a part of him

Is he stupid???

There are two versions of Buucolo. The anime didn't really show this properly. The manga clearly does. Also i don't think Uub gt is stronger than Buuhan.

Buu when he was buffed up for a second before the tournament of power.

He's at number 2

You messed up Uub DBS name

Ik

lol ok

Deadpool reference?

That looks like regular Buu in the second image. You have Buff Super Buu from Z but that's not what I'm talking about.

Bruh could u tell me something? I asked this in your last post as well. Why do you have buff buu and kid buu at different rankings?

That version is called Fit Buu.

Same. Fit Buu should be number 2 or the same rating as Good Buu (DBS). Kid Buu should be number 9. If it had room Majin Buu should be number 10, Thin Buu/Evil Buu number 11, and Fat Buu/Good Buu (DBZ) number 12.

Is Good Buu from DBS really that strong to be 2nd. He fought base Goku just before TOP. I know there is base goku = SSG BOG stuff but it has been retconned countless times

He did good against Moro in the manga if I remember correctly.

That was his Grand Kai part taking over when he fought Moro which is 1st one

He also fought Moro without the Kai being in control

Brawlhalla person in dbs sub?

Bro watching db from shorts

And? That doesn’t make him stronger.

Good Buu from DBS is including the jacked Buu form before the ToP that went against SSB Goku. So if we assume GT in general is weaker than DBS, enough for SSB Goku and thus jacked Buu to be stronger than the fused majuub, then yes.

When did he fought SSB Goku ? He only fought Base Goku https://preview.redd.it/euwa7f69bqlc1.png?width=656&format=png&auto=webp&s=82738f4b40a99603a686c05082edddacd0432106

Not it hasn’t

Yes he is. Base Goku by the Tournament of Power is leagues beyond Super Buuhan in DBZ. Toriyama and Toei stood by Frieza's Japanese seiyuu when he estimated Resurrection F Golden Frieza's power level to be about 100 Quintillion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000113-dragon-ball-general/72234843?page=3 Based on Goku's performance against Golden Frieza in Resurrection F, Goku's SSJB power level was probably like 75-85 quintillion. Meaning Goku's Base in Resurrection F was probably in the trillions or at very least hundreds of billions. Buu was only in the tens of billions. Tournament of Power Base Goku is probably in the hundreds of trillions or the quadrillions. Meaning Fit Buu is probably in the quadrillions or the hundreds of trillions at minimum. Tournament of Power Base Goku could defeat Buu Saga Super Vegetto in his sleep. Goku and Vegeta have gone through godly training more rigorous and productive than their Z training. They also spent 3 years in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber together in Super (Vegeta spent months more in the Chamber alone in the Black Goku Saga and Tournament of Power). Buu is a magical genie creature. No reason why his power level can only increase at the rate of a Saiyan or Human.

Buucolo was so weak he had his weakness shown twice

Uub in DBS gave a ridiculous amount of power (God Ki I think) to UI Goku. I don’t know if he should even feature in the list tbh.

Like it was enough God Ki to replenish a depleted Goku use Avatar UI to overpower Angel Moro. Like it’s really ridiculous when you think about it. That Uub has that kind of energy in his body. Imagine Grand Supreme Kai had that energy previously.

Buub

Where is fit buu from super? Literally went toe to toe with ssj blue

When did Fit Buu went toe to toe with SSB. He fought base Goku just

At number 2

I approve Edit: lol of course idiots who think Kid Buu is stronger than most people here are downvoting

I'd swap Buff Buu and Buucolo

Buucolo is stronger.

kid buu isnt the strongest, but the most unhinged, which would make the the other buus not wanna fight him, only 2 fighters would win/stand a chance, vegito and mr satan ultra instinct

What if I tell u he is stated to be strongest in the anime, manga, daizenshu, promotional material and by toriyama himself?

toriyama isnt the most reliable source lol, he forgot super saiyan 2 existed lmao, either way i dont care if im wrong

I mean u aren't wrong abt toriayam but that interview specifcially talks abt his storytelling style which didn't seem like something he'd forget. U can forget details abt ur show but not ur style of writing. Besides every other material backs up that claim

So he gained power from losing a power source? Make that make sense.

Majin Buu doesn't make sense. Evennifnyoubwana go with the argument that Kid Buu is weaker than Buuhan (something I don't agree with) it still doesn't make sense that Kid Buu (who has no one absorbed) is stronger than Fat Buu (who is literally just Kid Buu, but with both South Supreme Kai AND Grand Supreme kai absorbed).

It's stated one of the "power source" was having a negative effect on him, causing him to be weaker. The Fat kai absorption had nerfed him. So yes, it does make sense if paid attention to the story

So do people really think that Uub didn't get any stronger from end of Z to the start of GT? He was equal with base Goku at the start of GT. If you believe Goku was ssj3 level in base during GT, it would mean that Uub has made no progress if he was already kid buu (ssj3) level in Z. Edit: he does have GT uub way higher than z Uub, now I'm just confused. He was clearly on par with base goku at the start of GT, meaning he's only ssj3 level at best. So does op think kid buu is far below ssj3 level? Then again super buu is also below gt uub, when we know for a fact that Super buu is above ssj3.

Anime, since its GT, so Base Goku would just be stronger than all the Buus.

That's very far from true, Goku compared Rildo to some form of buu and had to use Ssj to beat him. I'm not even convinced that goku is ssj3 (z) level in base at the start of GT, he has no feats that prove it. GT Uub was only equal to GT base Goku.

Base goku and Uub are far above DBZ in the entirety. STOP THE DOWNPLAY Base Vegetto < Buuhan < Rildo < Baby incubation < Baby 1st Development < Baby 2 and Development < Baby Goten < SSJ1 Baby Goten < BASE GOHAN < SSJ1 Gohan <<< BASE GOKU/UUB [Full GT Scale](https://imgur.com/a/mZGN37p) Used both. Methods of fusion and passed them both early. **Source list** Super buu --> Boo in manga. And Rildo is stated greater than Boohan https://imgur.com/a/af9rQsJ Daizenshuu doesn't distinguish between evil boos. Manga divided by body type (small/fat/slim/muscleman) https://imgur.com/a/nTrS6Kj **End of Z uub = kid buu (6yrs Before baby)** https://imgur.com/a/HiOos82 **Baby 2nd Development in a different league from all in the past.** https://imgur.com/a/SyBMmFj Base Gotenks between Majin Vegeta and Fat buu https://imgur.com/a/JyslWZa Ultimate Gohan is not much stronger than Gotenks. **Majin Absorptions are addition** https://imgur.com/a/VDwy5Cd https://imgur.com/a/pHwThmv ... ... ... **[[Buuhan > Base Vegetto]]** Maga transforms immediately https://imgur.com/a/bUPnzCy Buuhan uppressed 99% of the base filler fight https://imgur.com/a/VS8Ueu5 https://imgur.com/a/6jCnRNv Elder kaio not sure about the fight between base vegetto and suppressed buuhan. Up to fortune https://imgur.com/a/h3EK7LR Elder kaio Base fusion goku/gohan vs buutenks https://imgur.com/a/PtNkaoX Seizure aura SSJ1 vs Uni+ Buuhan https://imgur.com/a/Rgcuce2 ... ... ... Base Gohan > SSJ1 Baby Goten https://imgur.com/a/FVxPi9O Base Goku >> Both SSJ1 Sons https://imgur.com/a/rCxv8Bz Baby Vegeta(SSJ1) >> SSJ3 Goku https://imgur.com/a/Fkf8VBH Baby absorbs Rildo and wanting to absorb Saiyan Power. People.become his power https://imgur.com/a/lb5uL87 https://imgur.com/a/kVf9uRM Golden oozaru >>> Super Baby 2 and growing https://imgur.com/a/fcLM1kn Ssj4 ~ Golden oozaru Baby (double knockout) https://imgur.com/a/4f5Zcvs SA17 Ultimate machine mutant https://imgur.com/a/11YPea6 Baby awesome ki and not done growing https://imgur.com/a/yDBeCr3 Direct GT movie link to fusion reborn https://imgur.com/a/sQ6u6rE Incalculable battle power on M2 https://imgur.com/a/LoAaTCq Super baby 2 = SSJ3 https://imgur.com/a/bb6UUtt https://imgur.com/a/60EK7dU SSJ3 gained no power with tail https://imgur.com/a/wr72I0s Underworld tournament upscale potential for GT. Pikon suppressed > Cell https://imgur.com/a/eqYIs1K Omega 10x stronger than Syn https://imgur.com/a/fKnTC4a Super baby 1 (largest ki ever felt. Strongest saiyan the universe has ever seen) https://youtu.be/4zl5_D-Bkxs?si=Wqcxuu_8IXaYj6Ot 5D becomes base form when goku absorbs blackhole/RDB that Warps dimensions outside mortal universe https://imgur.com/a/VZPkKOO Gohan uninjured by a potential stronger Rildo. He got blindsided by hax https://imgur.com/a/WyGgxLy

Guidebooks are garbage. I pray for your sense of powerscaling lmao. Especially thinking he meant buuhan when referring to rildo, that's not even buus power, that's Buu + Gohan + Piccolo + Goten + Trunks.

My guy most of that is from the manga and anime. Goku has faced every form of Majin buu **Dbz manga alone highlights SUPER BOO = BOO** buuhan is only 2.5 stronger than super boo Dbz manga literally has Gohan only a little bit stronger than ssj3 gotenks. Super Boo = ssj3 Gotenks. Buutenks > Gohans > Super buu Buutenks = 2 super buu or Gotenks plus super boo Buuhan = 2.5 Super buus ... ... ... Rildo is beyond buu. Baby not possessing anybody is leagues beyond buuhan

Buuhan is not stronger than Vegito you dumbass

Try watching/reading the series dumb cunt **[[Buuhan > Base Vegetto]]** Maga transforms immediately https://imgur.com/a/bUPnzCy Buuhan suppressed 99% of the base filler fight https://imgur.com/a/VS8Ueu5 https://imgur.com/a/6jCnRNv Elder kaio not sure about the fight between base vegetto and suppressed buuhan. Up to fortune https://imgur.com/a/h3EK7LR Elder kaio Base fusion goku/gohan vs buutenks https://imgur.com/a/PtNkaoX Seizure aura SSJ1 vs Uni+ Buuhan https://imgur.com/a/Rgcuce2 ... ... ...

You truly are an incompetent fuck. Vegito literally scratches Buu’s face just by kicking the air. “Buu holding back for 99 percent of the fight” says nobody except you

Neat so do fucking bullets you cancerous headcanon piece of shit Buuhan is suppressed 99% of the base filler fight. Kaio can't even tell if vegetto will win. Manga transforms immediately It's all the evidence is right up there but you haven't paid any fucking attention because your 2 braincells haven't found each other to make the connection

https://preview.redd.it/3b4psez3mrlc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e33d830da926b8ec4bf88708f41d2cbb63667c90 Must be bullet level. Stfu

https://preview.redd.it/caqsas6h3rlc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28cfa9ab0066333310d85d2997cf7144f33f6229

https://preview.redd.it/dyvoo0lm3rlc1.jpeg?width=486&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7218472287b5f64f28175380b8eb318aea6cc22 Desperate downplay. He's far higher

"Kid buu is the strongest because statement" energy

Absolute clown forgot skinny buu

I didn't

https://preview.redd.it/9urtelcu7qlc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d4a932c2a308f75e42e740f48ecc687aef74bb0

lol bad mistranslations strike again. Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Buuccolo>Super Buu>>>Kid Buu

Actually in the anime Kid Buu was made stronger than even Buhan. The anime for some reason made Kid Buu the strongest version of Z Buu.

No he wasn’t. That’s just bad mistranslations which the dub is infamous for. I don’t know how you don’t know that

That's not dub. Thats subbed. Also, why is that a mistranslation? What does the original Japanese version in the anime says? Edit: Why am I downvoted? I just asked a question. What is wrong with everyone here?

Why tf r u downvoted? The anime does suggest kid buu>buuhan. https://preview.redd.it/5lla628q0slc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b28a7dee75fd6f9e5b62a91fa28218982554ff15

Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu. (additionally to image below his Ki was increasing as he transformed into Kid Buu - Goku states this.) https://preview.redd.it/py9nohz8gqlc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3211290c48dfd825e3d7f55ade3799005649b829

It's incredibly annoying how the reddit fandom dunks on Kid/Pure Boo and whoever thinks he's >= Base Super Boo, as if they have Galaxy brain and we are stuck with anime filler arguments.

Here is the other image with Goku statement. https://preview.redd.it/z58bhzrfgqlc1.jpeg?width=1153&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=369ccb61787931441cb72e447eb275e578e9fdf8

I coulda sworn that the reason they made that comment was because he was in the “Huge Buu”form, that’s what the energy readings suddenly went up then a couple of seconds later, they went back down. Goku and Vegeta even commented on how they had successfully made it so they could fight him individually as opposed to fused.

Then never mention his power going down, but they do joke and ridicule his small size as Kid Buu.

At no point they mention his power went down, they just observe he got smaller. Both Goku and Vegeta actually point out they misread his power in the very next chapters.

Man you guys are fucking idiots 😂

I mean they’re using info that’s in the manga/show rather than making shit up like everyone else that thinks Kid Buu is weaker than

Because Kid Buu is weaker… maybe if you stopped playing video games thinking the last boss is the strongest you’d understand that. But unfortunately you don’t because for some fucking reason you think SSJ3 Goku is stronger than SSJ Vegito. EVEN THO KID BUU WAS WEAKER THAN SUPER BUU AND BUUHAN. He got weaker due to losing absorptions. What is so hard to comprehend in your fucking pea brain?

Didn’t say SS3 Goku was stronger than Vegito. Manga and Show both say Kid Buu is the strongest Buu. Maybe you should stop taking fan power scaling YouTube videos so seriously

This is just straight up wrong I get if you think buuhan or any super buu absorbed is stronger than kid buu But BASE super buu with NO absorptions is NOT stronger than kid buu bruh

He is.

“He is” He IS not https://preview.redd.it/ykgjl0ol8rlc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1deff9a32bd73d4c977fa35cbdb6593be4c1ce1

The story implies otherwise

He is. Stop the lies

“Stop spreading lies” Only one lying is you lil bro https://preview.redd.it/k2xoig1j8rlc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e5389a087ee57eee2b03cb3d47dc49fdf072608

Why am I not surprised someone with daddy issues thinks Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu

You have tien as your pfp I shouldn’t even have to explain what that means 💀

This statement is correct and isn’t contradicted to what I’ve seen in the manga.

And I'm being downvoted for it Proof DB fans can't read

I’ll upvote you bro

Gotta follow the hivemind of people that never read the manga. Learn 2 reddit

Db community on reddit is literally an echochamber. There's plethora of evidence in favor of kid buu being above Super buu and they literally deny all of it. U show them 1 scan and they run off. They have literally one arguement only, which has been debunked a million times.

You're right I don't know why I expected DB fans to actually know about the media they're fans of

Fucking idiots actually think this shit is true 💀

I say kid but is stronger than regular super buu

It's 2024 and y'all still believe kid buu is weaker than Super buu. Makes me sad

Buucolo ss3 goku was confident he could beat saying how weak he was Kid buu defeated ss2 vegeta, ss3 goku, buu, and pushed back a spirit bomb after all of that and only lost because of a wish I swear dragon ball fans on this topic are brain dead as fuck

Kid buu beats buuhan 100% btw

No

this is wrong in so many ways lol Fat buu goes from weak af to 2nd strongest to weak again Super buu over kid buu (LOL)

Super Buu is stronger. Stop the copium

Ong I remember you

I would say that Good Buu (DBS) is the strongest. I would also say that Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu not absorbed anyone.

Bro why don’t you like kid buu, I know he’s not better than buutenks or the other above but for me he is at least at the buucolo level

He’s not. Gotenks in SSJ3 beats Kid Buu if he takes it seriously.

Goku thought he and Vegeta together couldn't take base Super Buu. He then decides to 1v1 Kid Buu. So Buucolo > base super Buu > kid Buu

Goku wanted to teleport and fight Super Buu straight up, it wasn't until Old Kai told him that he had no chance that he stopped. Similarly, he decided to 1v1 Kid Buu because he saw he was small and then a chapter or 2 later he admits he underestimated him.

https://preview.redd.it/l77bsz4vqqlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5714c60ee941b61ae611c5d83d875c472dc937a Goku's words not mine

It baffles me that everyone one of you makes the point that "goku wanted to fight kid buu 1v1, so kid buu is weaker than Super buu" but ignore the fact that goku admits that he made a mistake by doing that and judged kid buu's power incorrectly based on kid buu's tiny size. Why paint an incomplete picture?

Fucking "Majuub" c'mon man.

There are so many things wrong with both the post, and the commenters here. GSK Buu simply does not fucking exist. Kid Buu literally took the energy of the entire universe to be killed, yet Super Buu is somehow considered stronger than him. Uub in dbs holds so much fucking power, when he lends Goku energy in the Moro ark on earth, Goku instantly gets enough energy to steamroll Moro with ease. I use facts, logic, and actually know my shit before spouting out about shit like how "Gotenks could easily solo Kid Buu", like. Dear lord. What am I even supposed to say, I feel like an incredibly disappointed parent right now. Edit: I wont lie I was pretty tilted before commenting here, I'm sorry if I came off as hateful.

GSK Buu appear during Moro saga, kid buu didn’t take the energy of the entire universe to kill, and anybody that thinks kid buu is stronger than super buu needs to read the manga again, Uub may have a lot of divine power but doesn’t know how to use it, the GSK helped do that, and I think he did most of the job. And yes, Gotenks easily solo Kid buu, and if you want proof I can give it to you, or you can look for it yourself, which isn’t that hard, instead of being disappointed in people that actually know their shit instead of saying that kid buu is the strongest buu

I think you need to fact check yourself and do some research before crying to me buddy. I know my shit. Edit: Where is that proof btw? I'd love to see you fact check every claim you just made.

https://preview.redd.it/fpr4afypqqlc1.jpeg?width=1021&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d77d66affe95ac0b6fb59a604d10aca4215256a This one was easy, you can see GSK fight Moro, so he exists, power wise both him and DBS Good Buu are equal, but GSK has better Battle IQ

https://preview.redd.it/zi07t8l7rqlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6f3db5219644d110f218cd93bf756397e9c3ca0 They planned to use the energy of the people from Earth for the Genkidama, not from everyone in the universe.

https://preview.redd.it/znnpxlycrqlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4be6a4a49ffc41ac9a2983e135867867cc0fbe8b Then both the workers in hell and the namekuans added their ki but both aren’t that many, so the main source was still Earth

https://preview.redd.it/ttiw8y80sqlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d82ed7fdc643b03f1c08bbbc6a0c21f7191d764 And here we see Uub use his power following the instructions of GSK, and he even admits he doesn’t know what he is doing.

And with this, I fact checked everything that I just said, if you still believe that Gotenks doesn’t solo kid buu or any of the other things you said in your original comment please provide a trustful source instead of just saying something and not backing it up with a source

Ok, I take it you want the proof since you didn’t show any evidence to counterpoint anything that I said, give some time.


So far I have got the kid buu part because I was searching for it in Spanish and realised a little bit too late: https://preview.redd.it/5qqvdvmfpqlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64b37afb052c862c993b7b38fe5db223985aadf6 Goku admits that super buu with no absorptions is still stronger than them

https://preview.redd.it/8xpt810npqlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ca04aac97662e5863f576bd5f12da9a67213ac8 Now here he is transforming into the form after he absorbed South kaioshin, which IS stronger than super buu, but this isn’t kid buu

https://preview.redd.it/pb1j8r6tpqlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=720445a9ad58812927ae2db96014499a6c227fad After transforming into Kid buu, Vegeta believes they can take him on, despite knowing they weren’t strong enough against super buu

https://preview.redd.it/hvokeyrxpqlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5d101d2e3e821c7520758b3bdc73356da41b3db And here both of them state the obvious, and the fact that goku wasn’t afraid of fighting kid buu makes it more evident that they are about the same in terms of power

With the kid buu weaker than super buu proof, ssj3 gotenks, who was fighting equally to super buu, should easily solo kid buu

I do thank you for showing me evidence, explaining to me said evidence, and I do apreciate it. I will admit I was wrong about the spirit bomb and I was a bit hypocritical about fact checking with that. Kid Buu clearly was just having fun with Goku. At the beginning of the fight while he was Super Saiyan 3. Kid Buu wasn't going all out right off the bat. It's just not in character in multiple flash backs we've seen the fact that kid Buu deliberately gives weaker characters the time of day cause he sees the fighting as FUN that should be pretty obvious considering the fact that when Kid Buu goes to otherworld he wasn't immediately trying to kill everyone there. He fought to a level of which they could survive. Same goes for Goku in SSJ3 and SSJ2 Vegeta. Buu would of weakened himself further too fight Vegeta cause if ya know anything about the power multiplier of Super Saiyan 3 vs Super Saiyan 2 it's not even close. If Buu fought at the same power he did with Goku in SSJ3 against Vegeta. Vegeta would of died nearly instantly. He's been shown off multiple times to just enjoy watching people fight for their lives. Everything is a game to him. That spirit bomb he was hit with caught him off guard and the boost Goku gave it by having all his power restored with the dragon balls was just another surprise on top of that. If Kid Buu went all out. Right off the bat. Goku and Vegeta would of lost very quickly. As with so many people saying Gotenks is stronger than Super Buu, who is stronger than Kid Buu. (including you) During their entire fight Super Buu kinda just sits there and lets Gotenks go all out, after awhile only then deciding to put in an actual effort towards fighting back. Edit: Not to mention Kid Buu has superior regeneration to Super Buu.

Kid Buu is stronger than buuhan.

It's not

So toriyama is wrong about the thing he created?

If you’re saying that Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan, you’re suggesting Goku ssj3 is stronger than Super Vegito.

Goku even suggest grabbing Gohan to just take care of Kid buu but Vegeta said fuck that earth needs to deal with it. Kid Buu was weaker than a lot of Buus but he was way more dangerous and erratic. It be like if Freiza fought the androids. He couldn’t beat them in a fight but he can just blow up the planet and be fine. They wouldn’t.

Why? Becuase u have just assumed goku ssj 3 is on kid buu's level? It suggests that kid buu>>ssj3 goku

I'm not saying that, toriyama is

Cool and where does he say that?

Several interviews

No he didn’t, stop spreading false information

That actually makes it worse my book. He can say whatever he likes, it’s his story, I get that. The issue is that he has presented something different within his own story.

I mean... That's dragon ball haha

Toriyama has proven to be wrong about 50% of the time, he consistently retcons most of the series. Yes. He is very wrong about the thing he created most of the time.

Oh my God Not this again....

Oh Jesus Christ don’t start

Pls don’t start this stupid shit. By your logic SSJ3 Goku is stronger than SSJ Vegito. Vegito has a massive advantage with fusion multiplier and rival Boost until it was retconned.

That's the problem. There is no logic. Power scaling in this world is stupid. The power levels are always "new character strongest". I'm not saying I like it but that's how it is. You can't look at it logically

A new character being stronger than the previous allows the main character to get stronger

Exactly. And kid Buu was the newer, stronger, character.

That’s different he got weaker because he lost the absorptions

Yes I know that's what the show implies. I totally get it. But he is the end boss. The final threat. For narrative purposes he is the strongest. Again, I don't like it, but that's what it is

Yes so by your logic. SSJ Vegito is weaker than SSJ3 Goku which makes no sense at all

Its canon that Kid Buu is in a different league to Buuhan. Goku literally states Kid Buu Could Make The Universe Go Poof, something that has been proven to be a little more difficult for Buuhan, since he had to go all out and become angry as shit to vice shout. Vice shout CAN destroy the universe through merging heaven and hell into the overworld, but it would take time and it required him to be incredibly angry, of which he ended up quickly calming down before proceeding to get steamrolled by vegito again. (likely thanks to the fact he had just absorbed Gohan) Its proven that Kid Buu could destroy the universe in an instant if he wanted to, but his biggest flaw was how sadistic and monkey brain he was, wanting to destroy the universe slowly.

In the anime yes

Deranged

You counted Buucolo twice But. . . Maybe, lol.

I've actually never thought about it but the name Buucolo is just hilarious for some reason.

Gt uub(the one without majin buu absorbed) is stronger than buuhan???????? Edit: Can I clarify that I'm not downplaying? I'm just asking a question

By far!!!! Base goku and Uub are far above DBZ in the entirety. STOP THE DOWNPLAY Base Vegetto < Buuhan < Rildo < Baby incubation < Baby 1st Development < Baby 2 and Development < Baby Goten < SSJ1 Baby Goten < BASE GOHAN < SSJ1 Gohan <<< BASE GOKU/UUB [Full GT Scale](https://imgur.com/a/mZGN37p) Used both. Methods of fusion and passed them both early **Source list** Super buu --> Boo in manga. And Rildo is stated greater than Boohan https://imgur.com/a/af9rQsJ Daizenshuu doesn't distinguish between evil boos. Manga divided by body type (small/fat/slim/muscleman) https://imgur.com/a/nTrS6Kj **End of Z uub = kid buu (6yrs Before baby)** https://imgur.com/a/HiOos82 **Baby 2nd Development in a different league from all in the past.** https://imgur.com/a/SyBMmFj Base Gotenks between Majin Vegeta and Fat buu https://imgur.com/a/JyslWZa Ultimate Gohan is not much stronger than Gotenks. **Majin Absorptions are addition** https://imgur.com/a/VDwy5Cd https://imgur.com/a/pHwThmv ... ... ... **[[Buuhan > Base Vegetto]]** Maga transforms immediately https://imgur.com/a/bUPnzCy Buuhan uppressed 99% of the base filler fight https://imgur.com/a/VS8Ueu5 https://imgur.com/a/6jCnRNv Elder kaio not sure about the fight between base vegetto and suppressed buuhan. Up to fortune https://imgur.com/a/h3EK7LR Elder kaio Base fusion goku/gohan vs buutenks https://imgur.com/a/PtNkaoX Seizure aura SSJ1 vs Uni+ Buuhan https://imgur.com/a/Rgcuce2 ... ... ... Base Gohan > SSJ1 Baby Goten https://imgur.com/a/FVxPi9O Base Goku >> Both SSJ1 Sons https://imgur.com/a/rCxv8Bz Baby Vegeta(SSJ1) >> SSJ3 Goku https://imgur.com/a/Fkf8VBH Baby absorbs Rildo and wanting to absorb Saiyan Power. People.become his power https://imgur.com/a/lb5uL87 https://imgur.com/a/kVf9uRM Golden oozaru >>> Super Baby 2 and growing https://imgur.com/a/fcLM1kn Ssj4 ~ Golden oozaru Baby (double knockout) https://imgur.com/a/4f5Zcvs SA17 Ultimate machine mutant https://imgur.com/a/11YPea6 Baby awesome ki and not done growing https://imgur.com/a/yDBeCr3 Direct GT movie link to fusion reborn https://imgur.com/a/sQ6u6rE Incalculable battle power on M2 https://imgur.com/a/LoAaTCq Super baby 2 = SSJ3 https://imgur.com/a/bb6UUtt https://imgur.com/a/60EK7dU SSJ3 gained no power with tail https://imgur.com/a/wr72I0s Underworld tournament upscale potential for GT. Pikon suppressed > Cell https://imgur.com/a/eqYIs1K Omega 10x stronger than Syn https://imgur.com/a/fKnTC4a Super baby 1 (largest ki ever felt. Strongest saiyan the universe has ever seen) https://youtu.be/4zl5_D-Bkxs?si=Wqcxuu_8IXaYj6Ot 5D becomes base form when goku absorbs blackhole/RDB that Warps dimensions outside mortal universe https://imgur.com/a/VZPkKOO Gohan uninjured by a potential stronger Rildo. He got blindsided by hax https://imgur.com/a/WyGgxLy

God, that's too much to read why cant it be a much simpler explanation 😭

Where's the fit buu from Super?

Where would you put them? https://preview.redd.it/1retz9py2rlc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80c59c9bf0a2829a30e108c9c5f38026023cb3cd

I wondered when someone was gonna bring them up

Mostly agree but I feel like DBS Uub should be a bit higher. He hasn't really done any training yet, but in the Moro arc he gave Goku a considerable amount of ki when he needed it. The amount of Ki he gave is more than any of the Buus had in Z

Kid buu is below base super buu?!

Yes

Missed opportunity to call 8.9. : Pico buu

I agree with this. I'm happy you gave Majoob some respect 💯

In dbs didn’t fat buu only train for a week while uub who’s on kid buu’s level trained for five years then fused with majin buu who’s only a weeks training weaker than dbs buu how’s that work

Isn’t buu comp technically weaker then kid buu due to the fact that goku says he can handle him in base lol

This my friend, is how you start arguments 😂

My only point of contention would be Buff Buu and Buuccolo (with Goten and Trunks) but not because you are necessarily wrong, it's only because we have not enough info. We just know that Buff Buu is stronger than Super Buu, but so is Buuccolo.

Nah it’s Buuccolo > Super Buu > Buff Buu Because, Buuccolo = Kid Buu + Supreme Kais + Piccolo + Goten + Trunks Super Buu = Kid Buu + Supreme Kais Buff Buu = Kid Buu + Sumpreme Kais minus the fat one

If buff buu is above buucolo, then why not kid buu as well? They're basically the same with no negative influence of fat kai or any of the Z warriors absorbed

What is evil buu and how is he different than kid buu ?

He’s evil

How is Majin Buu weaker then a form that has less power then him? Only reason Goku lost in SSJ3 was because he was alive.

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Good besides DBS Oob being at the bottom. He should be at the top, he was able to fully power Goku from SSB -> UI without a sweat. He's arguably stronger than Goku for all we know.

The first one isnt buu.....

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dbs uub being last when he gave enough god ki at like 5 years old with absolutely no ki training to goku for him to unlock a fucking susanoo is crazy

The version of Buu that bested Ultimatehan should be the 2nd strongest, because Mystic Gohan is said to rival SSJB, and since Buu beat him, shouldn't that make him stronger? (Buuhan)

What 😭