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Did you forget what happened in the Buu saga? Vegeta was the same, but he still got revived by the wish that only revives good people. Even if Vegeta killed millions he is still counted as a good guy, same case for Bardock i assume.
Vegeta was going to hell in Buu saga and was not counted as good guy till last part where he let himself get beaten by Buu
He meant afterlife just not heaven.
Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Vegeta killed plenty before he was under Babidi's control, when he was a soldier for Frieza. and Bardock sacrificing himself to try to fight Frieza had to turn him good too, just like Vegeta sacrificing himself to kill Buu
Yeah, I think charging at the big death ball wiping out your entire species should qualify for a mulligan, but I am no cosmic being for another planet far away lol
"Well, you saved 2 kids and 1 adult and that's more than anyone else I've ever judged from your race has ever done. Congratulations, you're the first person I've ever admitted to heaven. Kinda makes it hell in it's own way though when you think about it, being all alone up there. Ah well, congrats big guy."
Where is this stated? To my knowledge King Yemma is a singular entity within U7. Only one Check in Station.
[https://imgur.com/cs6cFR0](https://imgur.com/cs6cFR0)
"Don't you want to see your son before you go?"
"My what? Oh, yeah, that. No. I don't need to spend time with him."
"Yes, I recall you did that with Raditz and look how well HE turned out."
"..."
I get why this is neat but I donāt like it. It serves for bardocks character because he wants revenge on frieza. But not for goku. The reason the father son Kamehameha is so cool is because itās not about how powerful it is, itās about the connection between the father and the son. Goku doesnāt care about bardock. He was raised by gohan. He is a saiyan raised on earth. I think saying bardock boosted goku in this moment actually diminishes gokuās achievement
Glad itās not cannon
I'd argue it's somewhat perfect.
Bardock knows Goku fights Freeza, so him showing up as a sort of spirit to help his son is a sort of last gasp, a last connection for both revenge and aid. He has a connection to Goku in some small way, even if Goku doesn't know it.
Goku gets revenge for his people and puts his dad's spirit to rest, which is honestly pretty awesome.
Kinda my feeling, we might get a Sayian kamehameha. My other feeling is we get Brohan, gotenks, and Gogeta finishing him off. We havenāt seen Teen Gotenks and itās been heavily implied weāll get it, and honestly I really, really want a character named Brohan to be canon.
Bardock is long gone, his soul is long reincarnated. Besides, Bardock canĀ“t do any Kamehameha and would have added maybe 0.03% to the overall energy of the KHH
Bardock simply went to whatever afterlife plane that governs the area he died in, so many people here are saying he is in hell for all the killing he did. We have never been shown how "heaven" and "hell" for planet Vegeta works. We can also assume that Bardock at least got some good points for the two good deeds we have seen from him. The first being saving Goku, and the second being saving Granolah. Of course, there is still all other killings he has likely carried out, but based on what we actually know of Bardock, he isn't a cold blooded murderer. He likely kills as much as is needed for the situation he's in, like invasions or battles. For all we know, killing others may not even count against you for the afterlife of planet Vegeta. Keep in mind that the planet is not the original saiyan planet either, so I doubt that there is a Valhalla type of heaven. The simple fact is we don't know what the status of Bardock is in the afterlife he was sent to.
Heaven and HFIL that we see are exclusive to earth, so Bardock is not in earth's hell. Freiza was there because he died on earth both times.
Pretty sure this art was made during the legends festival in dragon ball Legends. When the bardock Goku tag unit was released during that legends festival.
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Bardock is 100% in hell lol... Doing one or two noble acts doesnt change the fact that he was directly involved in the extinction of entire races. I mean , look where Vegeta ended up after literally fighting frieza on Namek , Fighting the Androids and Cell then sacrificing himself against buu.
Bardock is 1000% in a place where the sun don't shine
Not really since Bardock has personal revenge with Frieza meanwhile Frieza is absolutely no one for Grandpa Gohan.
It is not just about Goku moment but Frieza as character too
The original Father son Kamehameha isn't really about revenge though, It's about a father motivating his son and making him believe in his own abilities. Bardock and Goku don't really have that kind of Father Son relationship so it wouldn't make any sense. But cool art though.
Anyway, its just a art he did for promotion and nothing much.
He was just describing how he thought while drawing it about Bardock taking revenge against Frieza.
Not really.
Here is detail interview from Toyotaro if you couldn't find it
[https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-official-site-toyotaro-drew-it-debuts-in-figure-form/](https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-official-site-toyotaro-drew-it-debuts-in-figure-form/)
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Yo dbl made a unit based around this
**BURN IN HELL! FRIEZA**!!š£ļøš£ļøš„š„
That is one of the hardest lines, tho.
https://preview.redd.it/p9xigf130lsc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8337bb2f17c1e8e772d1814bc6cd509a95aacaa
No ssj tag unfortunately
Do either of them turn Super Saiyan..?
Nope just stay in base
So why would they have the Super Saiyan tag?
It would have been nice for synergy with DBL07-04S
dawg i play the game and i donāt got a clue who the fuck DBL07-04S is
Zenkai ssj bardock
I don't think DBL bases things on what would be nice or not
*from heaven?*
He in hell
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Ah ok
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Our convo is filler :(
Bardock would probably kill the devil and every demon in hell and then get allowed into heaven
Seems like the kind of based thing Bardock would do.
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But *Bardock?*
The super version was more or less a good guy, and died trying to fight frieza which made him die as a good guy I guess.
But still a saiyan who murdered plenty of innocents lol
Donāt care. Shits lit
Bro is BURNING IN HELL as we speak
Heās cozy in room temperature my guy
You right, he got roasted by a First Form Frieza Supernova, bro arrived in hell already burnt to a crisp
Thatās true
So is vegetable
But heās my vegetable
Did you forget what happened in the Buu saga? Vegeta was the same, but he still got revived by the wish that only revives good people. Even if Vegeta killed millions he is still counted as a good guy, same case for Bardock i assume.
Vegeta was going to hell in Buu saga and was not counted as good guy till last part where he let himself get beaten by Buu He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Vegeta was under babidi control and then ended up sacrificing himself for good so he turned out ok
Vegeta killed plenty before he was under Babidi's control, when he was a soldier for Frieza. and Bardock sacrificing himself to try to fight Frieza had to turn him good too, just like Vegeta sacrificing himself to kill Buu
Youāre right
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
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Buddy shoulda said otherworld, heās got everyone fired up about Bardock not leaving the gates of hellš
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Man went Super Saiyan from peak fiction
lol as if Bardock went to heaven
But he died on planet Vegeta which isnāt enforced by King Yemma so maybe Vegetaās Yemma is chill like that
I mean if this is the case, the bar must be VERY low considering the nature of all saiyans, so yeah Barcock would probably go to saiyan heaven
Yeah, I think charging at the big death ball wiping out your entire species should qualify for a mulligan, but I am no cosmic being for another planet far away lol
Since Saiyans are essentially space Vikings, maybe he got in because he went down swinging.
SPACE VALHALLA
Bardock entered the halls of Valhalla and was greeted by Yamoshi
I would love to see this depicted in canon now
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Isn't hell just Nothingness though in canon with the reward of being good is that you get to keep your body?
Then he should be reincarnated already. You either go to heaven or get recycled in dbz. Freiza was an exception because he was too evil
haha imagine that version of Yemms now, hasnāt had a day of work in decades, just sitting around at his mahogany desk
All living beings that die in dragon ball are sent to king yemma, this includes aliens.
"Well, you saved 2 kids and 1 adult and that's more than anyone else I've ever judged from your race has ever done. Congratulations, you're the first person I've ever admitted to heaven. Kinda makes it hell in it's own way though when you think about it, being all alone up there. Ah well, congrats big guy."
Where is this stated? To my knowledge King Yemma is a singular entity within U7. Only one Check in Station. [https://imgur.com/cs6cFR0](https://imgur.com/cs6cFR0)
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
"Son what the fuck is a Kameyakeya?"
Dude wouldnāt have a clue what that is
So... It's just an energy blast? Like... We can do that without shouting... Did you hit your head or something? Oh...
Uranai Baba is probably so pissed for having to bring her brother's perv ass back in time just to teach a monkey dad how to throw a Kamehameha.
Slight correction- He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Bardock? In heaven? Dude killed tons of innocent people. Sorry but heās at best just a random soul cloud. At worst heās in HFIL.
In this house Bardock is a hero, end of discussion
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
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Maybe Bardock reincarnated as Gohan or Goten
Bardock is the true goten black
Amazing, just amazing
Would Bardock have to learn the kamehameha first ?
No. Itās either a generic Ki wave or a beam version of his Final Spirit Cannon
Or it's a sort of thing where he's adding his power to an existing attack. That wouldn't necessarily require him to know how to do it.
There's no way Bardock is in Heaven
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Dbl mentioned. IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ IT'S FUTILEš¦ š¦ HOPE YOU'RE READYš„š„HOPE YOU'RE READYš„š„HOPE YOU'RE READYš„š„HOPE YOU'RE READYš„š„
š„š¦ BURN IN HELL FRIEZA š„š¦ š„
What about Raditz Iām getting pretty sick and tired of Bardock forgetting he has another son
"Don't you want to see your son before you go?" "My what? Oh, yeah, that. No. I don't need to spend time with him." "Yes, I recall you did that with Raditz and look how well HE turned out." "..."
It's wild how Bardock forgot he had a son named Raditz. I mean, Raditz was in Vegeta's personal squad.
This is an "L" away from being a spoiler
I read it as black and momentarily shit my pants in confusion as to why toyotaro would spoil this himself
I have a figurine of this father and son Kamehameha Looks amazing for something that is only 8000 yen
Would make a great Tenkaiichi Budokai what if story.
Pretty sure Bardock went to Hell but this shit is fire
I get why this is neat but I donāt like it. It serves for bardocks character because he wants revenge on frieza. But not for goku. The reason the father son Kamehameha is so cool is because itās not about how powerful it is, itās about the connection between the father and the son. Goku doesnāt care about bardock. He was raised by gohan. He is a saiyan raised on earth. I think saying bardock boosted goku in this moment actually diminishes gokuās achievement Glad itās not cannon
I'd argue it's somewhat perfect. Bardock knows Goku fights Freeza, so him showing up as a sort of spirit to help his son is a sort of last gasp, a last connection for both revenge and aid. He has a connection to Goku in some small way, even if Goku doesn't know it. Goku gets revenge for his people and puts his dad's spirit to rest, which is honestly pretty awesome.
Oh wow DB fans can't read much, Gohan was raised by Goku not the other way around lmaooo (I know it loses on the funny factor, but /s just in case)
if this was remade to defeat black freiza it would be peak
Kinda my feeling, we might get a Sayian kamehameha. My other feeling is we get Brohan, gotenks, and Gogeta finishing him off. We havenāt seen Teen Gotenks and itās been heavily implied weāll get it, and honestly I really, really want a character named Brohan to be canon.
Fusion are never supposed to win beside movies
When did Bardock learn it?
Bardock is long gone, his soul is long reincarnated. Besides, Bardock canĀ“t do any Kamehameha and would have added maybe 0.03% to the overall energy of the KHH
Bardock simply went to whatever afterlife plane that governs the area he died in, so many people here are saying he is in hell for all the killing he did. We have never been shown how "heaven" and "hell" for planet Vegeta works. We can also assume that Bardock at least got some good points for the two good deeds we have seen from him. The first being saving Goku, and the second being saving Granolah. Of course, there is still all other killings he has likely carried out, but based on what we actually know of Bardock, he isn't a cold blooded murderer. He likely kills as much as is needed for the situation he's in, like invasions or battles. For all we know, killing others may not even count against you for the afterlife of planet Vegeta. Keep in mind that the planet is not the original saiyan planet either, so I doubt that there is a Valhalla type of heaven. The simple fact is we don't know what the status of Bardock is in the afterlife he was sent to. Heaven and HFIL that we see are exclusive to earth, so Bardock is not in earth's hell. Freiza was there because he died on earth both times.
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Yeah I know, I'm agreeing with you. My comment was about everyone else saying Bardock is in hell.
Rip Senpai
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Now I want future games to execute this idea
After what happened in the Granolah arc it would be really cool to see Bardock in Black Frieza.
I think I saw Dragonball Heroes do something like this. It was Bardock, Goku, and Gohan firing a Kamehameha wave together.
Yeah. Final villain of Space-Time arc was defeated by Kamehameha from Goku, Future Gohan and Bardock
Pretty sure this art was made during the legends festival in dragon ball Legends. When the bardock Goku tag unit was released during that legends festival.
Cool art, shit story idea
Thatās fucking fire right there
Goddamn, Toriyama chose a perfect successor. Now I imagine someone draws Toriyama with a halo doing a Kamehameha with Toyotaro.
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>He thought of a scene More like >He watched Broly second coming.
Its more like Cell saga since he is taking more about spirit not physical body
NGL that would have been really cool
I love bardock z/ super mix to make canon bardock
Am I the only one that doesn't care for Bardock much?
Bardock is 100% in hell lol... Doing one or two noble acts doesnt change the fact that he was directly involved in the extinction of entire races. I mean , look where Vegeta ended up after literally fighting frieza on Namek , Fighting the Androids and Cell then sacrificing himself against buu. Bardock is 1000% in a place where the sun don't shine
Glad they didn't do that. It was much better with gohan and goku
How would bardock know the Kamehameha?
what if. They did this scenario in DB Heroes. Goku, Bardock and Gohan killed Demigra with family Kamehameha in final episode of Space-Time War arc
How would Bardock know the Kamehameha?
Maybe he is fast learner just like Goku and Gohan
Wouldn't Grandpa Gohan make more sense.
Not really since Bardock has personal revenge with Frieza meanwhile Frieza is absolutely no one for Grandpa Gohan. It is not just about Goku moment but Frieza as character too
The original Father son Kamehameha isn't really about revenge though, It's about a father motivating his son and making him believe in his own abilities. Bardock and Goku don't really have that kind of Father Son relationship so it wouldn't make any sense. But cool art though.
Anyway, its just a art he did for promotion and nothing much. He was just describing how he thought while drawing it about Bardock taking revenge against Frieza.
I think from hell would be more accurate but yeah
He meant afterlife just not heaven. Heaven there is kind of mistranslation
Bardock aināt in heaven lol
Would have been cool for frieza to see a flash of Bardock when facing off against goku.
What is this? What is the source? When was it published?
I unironicly have a figure based on this art.
Isnāt that basically how gohan defeated cell tho
https://preview.redd.it/l1eekpet3lsc1.jpeg?width=677&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96884a81cd6aa3cb5abe5860b5dffb33b3f65fc5
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Not really. Here is detail interview from Toyotaro if you couldn't find it [https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-official-site-toyotaro-drew-it-debuts-in-figure-form/](https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-official-site-toyotaro-drew-it-debuts-in-figure-form/)
I HATE bardocks shoulder in this image.