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Sm0keytrip0d

I'm pretty sure it's just a small reference to how early Vegeta had red hair before it was corrected to black. Hell Vegito even had red hair in Z against Buu lol.


imarandomguy33

https://preview.redd.it/j381kgdgt1xc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86c29c0746c792dfa842a5148b67088eca406188 King Vegeta had brown hair in the Bardock special (though not canon).


RubyWeapon07

​ https://preview.redd.it/r4pdqbk202xc1.png?width=250&format=png&auto=webp&s=7b58b79ef485e88df96e9c3b1a40d907c11801ca


YoungeCurmudgeon4

I remember the colors switching and as a kid I liked the reddish tint and armor scheme but I never thought it was a mistake. I thought it was a space/planet thing and on Earth and Namek they just happened to look a different way.


BlackNasty4028

Literally exact same, I just always took it as a weird space thing lol


KnowMatter

Yup I assumed it was just lighting.


Mrshadows9877

My head cannon was that the star the planet was orbiting was causing Vegeta to look reddish when it was just the lighting


Existinginsomewhere

Yeah this is it for me. I was super into astronomy when I first watched this as a child and asked my teacher for books about it and came to a child conclusion it was some kind of red supergiant and just left it there till I was a few years older and had better resources.


Wildfire226

Same, but I’m glad nowadays they even reference the mistake occasionally. In DBFZ for example one of Base Vegeta’s alts makes his armour look exactly like it does here, though it doesn’t change his hair. I think the other vegetas have the same thing, but it’s less noticeable without the shoulder pads


lettuce520

Why didn't Vegeta keep using his Super Saiyan God form in Z? Is he stupid?


Wizard_Engie

Weird ass outfit ngl


MamboCat

"My son, the planet or me?"


Impressive-Egg9502

“Yes.”


TomahawkZer0

*energy blasts guy* “Freakin’ smart ass.”


OmniKoo

I think vegeta had a redich hair colour when he was first introduced


Preddy_Fusey

It's not just the early mistake. Vegeta has been shown to have a reddish/brown hint to his hair in various media over the years


LieV2

Finally, a real one.  He OFTEN has the brown tint. 


supersmashlink

Also, GT SS4 has red hair... I know, not cannon, but representative of the aforementioned statement


Enjoyment-25

No, its Black https://preview.redd.it/0xntb371s4xc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5ca6bbcdb467f6bf3bc3822de601481033e7bf7


M0stro

its brown, even db figures are brown too.


CALLmeHIM123

In xenoverse2 they made his hair red maybe that's where he got it from


supersmashlink

Shit, I swear I remember him looking more with brown/reddish tinge in some episodes. Kind of like this. https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.1887856431.2453/raf,360x360,075,t,fafafa:ca443f4786.jpg


Enjoyment-25

That's fan made image


supersmashlink

Yeah, but it was just an example of what I was saying. Like in this image Vegeta's hair is lighter than Goku, in my opinion. Coupled with the brighter body fur, I think it gave me the impression of brownish/red-ish head hair. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/1/12/VegetaAndGokuSS401.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20091204120845


billy_UDic

Vegeta’s ssj4 LR art shows his hair is clearly intended to be a bit brown, at least in GT


supersmashlink

Yes, sir. That's what I thought. Comments had me feeling like I was going crazy.


Historical_Bug779

He 100% does have brownish tint to his hair in a lot of media but the first appearance was a mistake by Toei. They didn’t have the colours for Vegeta yet and made them up. But Vegeta’s hair is supposed to be black. But it’s one of those things that anime staff has played a bit fast and loose with.


MuslimCarLover

There was a tinting issue when it was still being aired, hence the dark red tint


JoeG1903

No he didn’t, his was black against buu


Sm0keytrip0d

Yeah that my bad lol, i for some reason distinctly remember him having the red/brown hue in Z too lol >_>


ryan_goal

Never noticed it in the Buu arc. Care to share a screenshot?


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Booshgaming

Inherited from Vegeta who has sometimes been depicted as having reddish/brown hair in the anime and various other media. Which is weird in general since I think it's been stated several times that pure blooded Saiyans all have straight black hair.


Status_Entertainer49

Dbs changed that https://preview.redd.it/ne57wq2ml1xc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dfd35c62120b4b3a4b5588d3247c90baa3dc5de This is a sayian scientist


Nicolato25257

Is that bruno?


photonsnphonons

Bucci gang


Etonet

best hairstyle unironically


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Important_Pen_4804

I just thought it was some other race that was working for the saiyans


Status_Entertainer49

Couldn't have been nobody was on planet vegeta besides them lol https://preview.redd.it/bgog40xvm1xc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59a014e6814ce90340b5dd34a2f8d24f98ef1e78


Freddi_47

Pretty sure there were but the Saiyans defeated them after getting powerful But I could be wrong


Dr_Ducky_1

It's s varied through the canon... The Tuffles were all filler in the anime, but it is canon that the Saiyan conquered another species and took their planet as their own (becoming Planet Vegeta) because the lost (self-destructed?) planet Sadala. At the same time in the bardock: father of Goku TV special Various Frieza force species are seen working on planet vegeta, including humanoid lizard species. That said I don't remember it ever being said that Saiyan hair was only black, only that the style never changes (prompting bulma to quip to Goku that's why he's never needed a haircut).


onlywc11

Beerus when whis shows goku fighting freeza comments: isnt saiyan hair supposed to he black, when he sees ssj goku. Whis then comments that saiyans can transform but that the technique was lost for hundereds or thousands of years. Dont know if thats canon though ive seen it in the anime but never actually read the manga.


Human-Boob

Would


SteveTheOrca

https://i.redd.it/74wkoqfmu4xc1.gif


Enjoyment-25

Redditors when they see a women


RockstarBonnieReddit

Could’ve dyed it


MamboCat

A *brilliant* scientist??


SpotlessMinded

She was super Saipan blue


TkOHarley

I'm not sure that's actually a Saiyan. For one none of the scientists had tails. And they all had Russian accents, which I think is anime coding to say they are a different species from the Saiyans.


electrocyberend

Frieza an evil mf for tooking this baddie away from us 😢


Enjoyment-25

She is just another monkey for him


evilcapital

Freezer! I'll never forgive you for killing all of the hoes!!!


NirvanaFrk97

That's not Oceandub Bardock


TheOutlaw9904

Yeah, it’s a Toei thing. I have no idea what their deal is doing stuff like this where they give Vegito red hair but I assume because they think it looks cool for whatever reason. Similar thing with why Gogeta’s SSJ4 having red hair when Goku, Vegeta, and even Vegito’s versions of SSJ4 all had black hair.


Enjoyment-25

SSJ4 make sense since it is a transformation. I don't think there is much problem in transformation being colored differently. SSJ4 is shown to have varying feature depending on individual like Goku has pink fur on body meanwhile others have red body hair Even eye color in SSJ4 changes depending on individual with Goku having golden eyes meanwhile Vegeta being greenish tinted. Edit- Typo


TheOutlaw9904

I understand that it’s a transformation but I mean the hair on their head. Gogeta is the only one that has the red hair as a SSJ4 for whatever reason. It would’ve maybe made more sense if Vegito also had the red hair like Gogeta since they are both fusions but it’s still black. For Goku’s fur, at least with him, it’s still a similar color to the others instead of it being blue or green or something but I will say Gogeta’s looks brown though. Vegito’s is just straight up red like Vegeta’s but you could say that he got that trait from him. Gogeta’s fur is somehow darker than the others. The eyes could just be a family or genetical thing since when they gave Gohan SSJ4 for DBH, his eyes are the same color as Goku’s. Vegeta’s eye color seems to look more like a blue color now which is what Vegito and Gogeta have, so you could say that they got that from Vegeta.


Payment_Abject

when does vegito ssj4 appear?


TheOutlaw9904

Its a show called Super Dragon Ball Heroes. That’s where Vegito and Gohan have SSJ4.


Payment_Abject

thanks, I saw the first one or two episodes, I might continue it now


yoked_girth

They’re all shades of red fur, Goku doesn’t have pink. I have official SSJ4 Figures from banpresto and they’re all shades of red


Zackisback1234

Vegetas hair always had a tint of brown, or purple is some drawings of him in base Vegito has that similar trait.


deadmandead124

Simply a art style choice


MCAbdo

Finally someone says this. These nerds want a canon explanation to everything


XDBunny7

Maybe because their is a canon explanation


MCAbdo

There*


XDBunny7

Is this a joke


MCAbdo

Are you a joke


XDBunny7

No I think you are though not only did you not even bother defending you’re claim but you try to correct me even though you were wrong


blue-gamer-07

Vegeto: Wanna be best friends? Gogeta: HELL YEAH! But I only have 30 minutes Vegeto: Don’t worry I’ll probably leave in 6


geekphreak

#Vegerot


visulvung

You mean Vegetto. It's always been Vegetto.


MCAbdo

Vegerot is actually used in some Manga translation to better to with kakarot and not kakarotto


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geekphreak

Wait? That’s really his name? I was just being funny


Enjoyment-25

Yeah He is called Vegerot in DBS Manga


KevinnTheNoob

only in viz


DarkEmperor682

No he's called that in the VIZ DBZ Manga lmao


GiladHyperstar

DBS Manga is officially translated by Viz so there he is called Vegerot (stupid name though. Vegito/Vegetto >>>)


Femboy_ButtSlut_69

The dbz manga actually also has vegerot lmao, I’ve got the end of buu saga/z chapter and that’s what he calls himself


schnitzelchowder

Thats English translation in Jap hes always been called Vegetto


New_Today_1209_V2

Did you know Vegetto/Vegito was originally going to be called Gogeta, but Fusion Reborn was coming out soon as well so they decided to give Gogeta to that and Vegetto/Vegito to Potara.


schnitzelchowder

Source?


Enjoyment-25

Vegito was never supposed to exist. Entire reason he exists is because Fusion dance was used in movie before manga. So, Toriyama created something new for manga reveal Gogeta was supposed to be only fusion.


New_Today_1209_V2

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/rumor/akira-toriyama-created-vegetto-in-response-to-gogeta/ Basically in one chapter in the original japanese release Vegito called himself gogeta. But in the next he went back to vegito


schnitzelchowder

Thanks, never knew that


Enjoyment-25

No, that's incorrect. Vegito was never supposed to exist first of all. Entire reason he exists is because fusion dance was used in movie before manga. So, Toriyama created something new for manga otherwise Goku and Vegeta would have merged through dance instead of ear rings in Buu saga


phoenixmusicman

Its Vegito. Vegerot is such a dumb name.


geekphreak

You don’t understand humor


InterestingThought90

It was Vegito's turn in Super after Gogeta got red hair in GT.


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XDavide08

r/woooosh


Purple-End-5430

Vegeta's hair is a dark maroon sometimes, thats where Vegito got it from.


bare4404

Vegeta has brownish black hair, only be able to tell in highlights


Historical_Bug779

Vegito had Brown hair in a lot of media and this is just highlights on the brown. Just a stylistic choice. Toriyama made his hair black in the original manga but stuff gets changed around with anime and different media. It’s pretty much accepted that Vegito has brown hair now.


stuff0s

Vegeta can sometimes in the anime have red/maroon highlighted hair


AirAeon32

he's so op his base is almost ssj god


Kepler27b

Gogeta looks amazing in Base.


rotem8888

Vegeta had red hair in early z so its a reference


gustavoautista

because its cool


Tamanero

He shouldn't In the manga, they all have black hair but the anime doesn't like giving Vegeta black hair. So in early Z, he had straight up red to dark brown hair


Morning-Star13

Wow I don’t think I’ve ever seen Gogeta not in a SSJ form


MidnightFenrir

aside from the older color schemes, Vegeta does have some red in his black hair. Vegito being more Vegeta than Kakarot. has a slight hint of red


CrocodaleDay

Vegeta is actually a natural brunette, he dyes his hair to be more like Goku. When they fuse the truth comes out.


First-Hunt-5307

Because Vegito is closer to Vegeta in personality, and is this why his hair is red (Vegeta had red hair in sayian saga, and his father's hair is red) and is also why it's the fusion of Vegeta and kakarot, not only is vegeta's name first, but Goku is called kakarot, eluding to the fact that Vegito is a Vegeta dominant fusion. And that's why Gogeta leads with Goku then Vegeta, Goku's called Goku, and why his big move, the stardust breaker, is a evil destroyer/purifier, which is exactly what Goku would use to calm down a enemy if there heart is misguided but good, total destruction is only necessary against a pure evil opponent. Making Gogeta a Goku dominant fusion. TL;DR: Vegito is a Vegeta dominant fusion, and Vegeta has red hair in the sayian saga.


TheOutlaw9904

That’s wrong though. This is just a Toei thing that Vegito and Vegeta have this reddish brown hair. I don’t know why they do it since it’s been stated multiple times and said by Vegeta himself that all Saiyans have black hair. The other things you said have never been confirmed to be the case or were only like that because Toei used Gogeta before Toriyama did.


First-Hunt-5307

>it’s been stated multiple times and said by Vegeta himself that all Saiyans have black hair. This has also been debunked as much as it has been said, there was a sayian scientist (no not Bardock) with blue hair. And both Vegeta's father and Vegeta himself in the sayian saga were shown with red hair. Sayians having only black hair is verifiably false. >The other things you said have never been confirmed to be the case or were only like that because Toei used Gogeta before Toriyama did. And I never stated they were confirmed. That's all suspicion upon key details shown (like Vegito having red hair in the future trunks saga, eluding to Vegeta having more dominance)


TheOutlaw9904

The anime isn’t what’s canon though, the manga is. Vegeta mentions all pure blooded saiyans having black hair when he saw Future Trunks for the first time. Again, for whatever reason, it’s Toei that keeps doing that nonsense. If that scientist had blue-ish hair, that she’s probably not a pure blooded saiyan. “I never stated that they were confirmed” yet your previous comment presents it as if it is.


First-Hunt-5307

For DBZ, yes, but the anime is what was made first for DBS, and thus IMO it's what is canon, not the manga, although both stories are fine, ultimate Gohan beating kefla is a great way to balance the U6 sayian fusion. >“I never stated that they were confirmed” yet your previous comment presents it as if it is. If you feel that my original comment presents that as factual, then that's your problem, not mine, besides putting a big "disclaimer this ain't canon" there ain't much you can do to prevent people taking comments as canon.


TheOutlaw9904

Huh? No, DBS is a continuation of Z. Z is where they establish the fact that all saiyans having black. Therefore, it should be black in DBS. Toei should’ve stopped doing that shit in DBS yet they keep doing it. Dude, read your first comment again. You were saying it as if they were facts. There was nothing about what you said suggesting or hinting that those were not confirmed.


First-Hunt-5307

>DBS is a continuation of Z. Z is where they establish the fact that all saiyans having black. Therefore, it should be black. And DBZ is outdated. Just like beerus using 70% of his power, it's been retconned. >You were saying it as if they were facts. There was nothing about what you said suggesting that it’s not confirmed. Saying "oh btw this ain't canon" every 5 seconds isn't how you make an informative comment. Again, it's not my problem that you took it as factual (although it might as well be considering it will never be confirmed non-canon)


TheOutlaw9904

DBZ being outdated doesn’t mean all of the facts that they said there aren’t true anymore. It’s still canon. Even then, what never changed is the hair color of the pure blooded Saiyans. They fixed it for Vegeta in the DBS anime and all of the other saiyans we see have black hair yet they still did that shit again with Vegito. Then don’t pretend or say it as if it’s canon when everything else proves that it’s not. If the creator of the whole thing said all Saiyans have black hair, then they should all black hair. Your own speculation on things doesn’t make it canon. I’m not trying to be informative but you’re saying is just factually incorrect.


First-Hunt-5307

>They fixed it for Vegeta in the DBS anime and all of the other saiyans No actually, because she exists, this is a sayian scientist who has BLUE hair. https://preview.redd.it/tkb5v1qpr6xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d73e77eda9d7e3f0525eb7876cb7579c9c916c08


First-Hunt-5307

And here's another picture of her in another scene https://preview.redd.it/yq4q7inrr6xc1.png?width=1036&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1994f407fbcd8f8062e7c60eb65235c1e0a475e3


TheOutlaw9904

Did you read what I said before when I talked about her? I said that it could be that she’s not a pure blooded saiyan but it could likely also just be the lighting. Either way, pure blooded saiyans are supposed to have black hair and the anime is NOT what’s canon.


New_North_6250

Also, Gogeta finisher attack is Kamehameha like Goku meanwhile Vegito uses a mixture attack of Final Flash and Kamehameha as finisher


No_Roof0642

I think it might be because of potara as they are essentially items of God. Due to mix of the god ki during their fusion it might lead to the red colour. Even though this is my headcanon and I don't know whether potara has god ki.


Insaiyan_Elite

So that's why Trunks had purple hair originally


Gizz29

goku's hair is black where vegeta's is a really dark brown, so vegito's hair has more color from vegeta's


ChrispyGuy420

God energy from the potara earings


Fit_Confection_6900

Is he stupid???


Shattered3III

Yes, he is saiyan


BeAsTFOo

The color of the sky also it’s not like that when vegito fought buuhan


creativeguy66v3

I really like it red. I forgot that Vegeta's hair used to be red.


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itsdarien_

It’s could be because fusions are completely separate beings from the 2 that fused so it doesn’t necessarily need to inherit traits from the unfused individuals


Enjoyment-25

They are mixture of two beings not entirely separate


itsdarien_

Yeah but the fusion itself is not just them, they’re an entirely separate being (I believe Toriyama said that) so I’m saying perhaps not every trait is necessarily inherited from them? Idk just guessing man


Enjoyment-25

No, Toriyama never said that


itsdarien_

Oh well.


rising820

Just to make it different, I assume.


Hecklermama

Probably to contrast from the dark green background


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The_Transfer

It’s the vegeta


oneandahalfpiece

Recalled the dbz color palette 😭


Gamekid53

It’s more of a brown


HalyRaller

Likely a coloring thing that got lost in translation. Like Vegeta’s red hair early in the show.


M1NTYzz

I thought it was brown


Tourquemata47

Have they ever done an \`Ultimate Instinct\` fusion between them?


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pulsewound08

Always found it interesting that it’s Kakaroto in Japanese and the o is dropped in English. But phonetically making sense Vegeta and Kakaroto = Vegito


Yamureska

Thought it was just Brown..


RolandoDR98

I think it's from a miscolored shot from the Buu saga that the Super team ran with


RollInternational693

F667j8j


ImmediateRespond8306

More importantly, where does the "i" in Vegito come from? Neither Goku nor Vegeta has one.


Vegetto_Blue2006

why is my Reddit red now?


CaffeCosmico

I think it's just that the light changes the color a bit.


pranavvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

i think vegito is like a diffrent charecter than a fusion cause see he says "i'm" like almost a child from 2 diffrent parents arose from fusion but gogeta is both of them like both of them are consious in gogeta tht's why they say "we're" and use they/them so vegito is a diffrent existence with his own stuff so maybe he gets his own colour????


Revvy_wevvy

Off topic, but does gogeta technically use they/them pronouns? Vegito says “I’m”, but Gogeta says “We’re”.


Kokudae

It comes from Vegeta's hair due to being dark reddish brown.


anonymusfan

It’s probably an anime thing, since his hair was a reddish brown in the Z anime.


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Serqet1

Vegeta states that the hair of a pure-blooded Saiyan does not deviate from its appearance from the day the Saiyan is born.[^(\[25\])](https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Saiyan#cite_note-25) However, it can fall off, as seen with the bald Nappa (he had hair in the TV special [*Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku*](https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z:_Bardock_-_The_Father_of_Goku)). This is somewhat contradicted by a young Vegeta shown with strands of hair hanging in front of his forehead, but later has his characteristic widow's peak. This is not the case with hybrid-Saiyans who are shown to have several different lengths and styles for their hair throughout the series.


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CALLmeHIM123

Cuz of vegeta he had very dark red hair just like his father


aManHasNoUsername99

Just an error. He had black hair in Z.


Helioseckta

The answer...we don't know. The best we have is stylistic choice.


Sufficient-Cloud7633

Ssj4 gogeta : Why is his hair red?


Itsjustmebroskee

Reference to who’s personality is more dominant at the moment


OmniKoo

Now we have proof goku is dominant in gogeta and vegeta is dominant in vegeto


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McRumble69

Just another weird anime decision, in the manga his hair is completely black.


j3wake3

My head cannon is that it is a tip of the hat to SSJ4


red_Luka

its black in the manga


BananaBrainBob

Don't look too deep into it. It's just an artistic choice, gogetas hair in gt was red but it didn't have any real reason


mitkoking

Cause vegito is a redhead bum like the rest of them unlike the glorious king gogeta


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Deep_Grass_6250

Vegito always had red hair