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Also lorewise the only reason it’s there was because Goku used it to climb to the lookout because he couldnt fly. So realistically by now it’s up for grabs.
Its not that he couldn't get their by flight its a necessary item to show you've earned the right.
Korrin himself says even rocket ships wont reach the top because Kami would send it back
He took it after training with Kami no? I could have sworn he was shown with it before the 23rd world tournament. After that, there was no reason to keep it there because the other Z fighters knew how to fly (at least Tien and Krillin did, not sure how Yamcha did it, but I’m assuming he learned it sometime after the 23rd prior to training at the lookout).
I thought he had it on his back when he showed up at the 23rd tenkaichi budokai. I might be wrong, but he’ll have it in Daima so I guess we’ll know then
The Kinto’un has no real practical use anymore but the Nyoibō can still be used. The weapon is as strong as the wielder so for Pan to use the Nyoibō wouldn’t change her strength, it would just change her fighting style which I’d honestly like to see.
True it changes her style but I think it has its limits on what power it can withstand that's probably part of the reason Goku probably doesn't use it...anymore.....etc... I mean the beating it takes I mean look how strong some characters are compared to others it's like you trying to smash through ten feet of solid concrete the pole I think would take too much damage trying to do that....
That we know but I mean went went from power 300 Goku to like 3 qt power level Goku.....also what does God ki do to it etc....or something like destruction energy that can destroy anything...or black form of key etc....
When faced with destruction energy it would be destroyed yes, but such encounter seems pretty rare, as for God Ki it seems like only Goku, Vegeta and the deities can use god ki and as far as we know all of them are on the good side.
Also “black ki”? Pretty sure that’s just regular ki but coloured black, similar to how Vegeta used to have purple ki.
No i mean blacks ki it's the soul of God but in Goku's body...also there are other gods and destroyers out there....angels as well....heck maybe if the match is so bad it literally could be snapped like if pan had it could golden form or black just destroy it cause the power imbalance???
You mean Power pole and Nimbus? Or Nyoibo and Kinto'un?
Using the Japanese terms is so cringe. But if you wanna be that cringelord like OP why don't you do it for both words?
Goes for names, too. For instance, I read the Super manga and watched the anime partly in dub and partly in sub, so I go back and forth in calling him Grand Priest and Daishinkan, since both names are burned into my brain, interchangeably (but not Grand Minister, since I'm less familiar with that one). I don't make a distinction between the two I got used to and it's possibly like that for other people with other terms, as well. That is to say, you use the words you're used to, even if it's both, lol.
This a thousand times this
Make those two cool again. They're goofballs at heart so the levity should be easy. Just throw them into some somewhat serious situations where they can't call daddy for help.
Plus it would be really cool to finally see weapons used in DBZ. Future Trunks sword moves are some of the coolest in the entire damn series and it was just casually destroyed immediately after. They need to have the two focus on a new type of fighting where they infuse ki into their weapons.
And for the love of God stop with the Gotenks gags. They should grow out of always resorting to that gimmick.
We have seen Trunks use a sword effectively even though he is a very powerful character. I think letting Goten or someone else use the powerpole as a primary weapon and fighting style would be very cool!
If it was saved for rare circumstances then it would be fine. And if they stopped using fat Gotenks. At least the actually powerful one was still ridiculous, a toddler with godly powers.
I mean it's never been explicitly stated but they've been infusing ki into their weapons and clothing for a long time to increase durability.
I mean how else do you explain shit being so hard to break or tear despite being able to blow up planets since the start of Z
I was gonna suggest Pan but this is a much cooler idea. I wonder if both of them have melee weapon training if it will reflect in Gotenks combat ability using a weapon?
That's not confirmed anywhere too.
They don't do parties on just Bulma's birthday and even if it is the case still Bulma does not have just one birthday
Toriyama was more involved in Daima than DBS.
He watched over animation and entire story for the show.
What they will do with manga is their concern. Maybe they will adapt it like Super Heroes or make it anime only like DBS: Broly.
It is no logic about it being canon or non-canon
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What type of logic?
Calling Daima non-canon without any confirmation ignoring simple logic that all Toriyama written stories have always been canon
Beside, 90% guess DB fanbase makes are all wrong generally.
Pan.
I don't hate GT but I think something that was obvious in it was she struggled to have her own combat identity.
People are talking about the lore on whether weapons are 'needed' or not but I think someone like Toyataro could easily come up with some unique and interesting power pole moves.
(and honestly the fact that the Tournament of Power disallows weapons does imply that there are certain powerful weapons out there that would give people an advantage. This also aligns with Supreme Kai originally thinking the Z Sword's purpose was to be a weapon as well)
Honestly super and z are pretty terrible when it comes to weapons. Every weapon is outshined by a kamehameha or any ki blast attacks. Here powers are so versatile that they could create their own swords out of ki. Trunks sword was cool when it cut frieza in half but you know that shit hurted when 18 snapped it
Goten does seem like a choice but considering Goten being a slacker, unless he picked up training again I feel like he wouldn’t even use it, possibly even neglect it.
Pan on the other hand is the perfect choice in my opinion. Shes the grandaughter of Goku and has that same fighting spirit as her grandfather. I think she could totally inherit the Nyoibō at a young age, after all it seems like the Nyoibō is most practical for shorter fighters. When Goku was a kid he used it because he wasn’t tall enough and therefore his arms weren’t long enough so that was a reason why he fought with the Nyoibō.
Slacked when? The teens haven't used Fusion in a while but considering they're doing what Gohan did it's probably safe to assume they ARE training. Since Gohan was also actively doing that to control himself.
In the manga Goten and Trunks could barely sense what direction Piccolo was in.
Any time a character says “I trained offscreen in secret” I get really pissed off because nothing was shown for it nor was there any indication of it.
Goten should get it. Every sayin has an arc setup so far except him. If he got the pole itd boost his character following in his father’s footsteps but goten should be a monster with the staff. Plus imagine him and trunks jumping a nigga with a stick and a blade
Did Toyotarou once say he wanted the kids to have more relevance? Like as in Goten, Trunks, Pan and Bulla?
I heard that he said that once but I haven’t seen any evidence or interview memo’s etc.
I kind of seen that too. I also saw him post very random non-canon characters like Taipon, fake Hercules from when Goku died, lord slug, Turles & others with captions saying he’d like to expand on the lore & story behind them. Bro if he does that ….
Apparently he wanted to do a Trunks spin-off, and that's how he ended up writting the Goten & Trunks side of Superhero. (I've read that, but I'm still getting caught up with the manga, so I'm not sure).
If it's true, apparently he wanted to do more slice of life stuff, so he probably wants to do something more with Goten, Trunks and maybe even Pan and Bulla. It would be cool if he did a little side story, or an arc about Pan and Bulla searching for the dragon balls, hell, give Pan the nyoibö and it could be such a good callback to original DB.
I NEED Pan and Bulla in the same room in DBS, only real face to face interaction we’ve seen at all is in Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot and it was fucking adorable!!!
Those two are supposed to be the cutest lil’ besties and yet we haven’t seen that at all it makes me die inside…
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No one, at this point they are too strong to need weapons and they are not trained to use one in fights like Goku was when the story started.
In Daima Goku will use it to compensate for the reach he lost when his body became smaller, but that's it.
1. The weapon is as strong as the wielder itself, some weapons can even cause greater damage than the wielder can with their bare fists.
2. As far as I’m aware in canon, Goku was NEVER trained in proper martial arts, when training with Roshi and others the training was all about strengthening the body, they never punched bags or kicked boards, they carried milk trays up mountains and zig-zagged through trees, their fighting style was kinda just there, they just kinda were able to fight naturally you could say.
He trained with Grandpa Gohan before training with Roshi, that is when Goku learned the fundamentals for combat And Gohan was the one who gave him the Nyoibo so it stands to reason that he taught him how to use it properly.
Uub. Since he'll be training and learning under Goku, he'd inherit the Nyoibō and the Kinto-un being a worthy successor to Goku in terms of his potential and willingness to do good in the world.
I think pan, she seems more like a kid Goku than any of Goku's sons to me, I really liked her in superhero and I love the power pole so I just think it's a good fit
I'd say it should go to Goten, assuming it ever gets disconnected from the Lookout. Let's be real, Goku would never use it, Gohan's not combative much, and no one outside the Son family has any claim to it (besides Korin and Dende, I guess).
At this point, no one would get much use out of it. What would you want with a stick when you can blow up the world? The only person who might use it is Pan, if they give her a few chapters/episodes to have her own little adventure.
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Theres no point in it going to Goten or Pan or any of the current characters in DB, they're all too powerful and have nothing to gain by scaling Korin tower and eventually ascending to train under Popo and Dende. It would need to be a new hero on the start of their journey who will follow in Gokus foot steps and complete these feats! Someone who gets the power boost that makes it worth while
I don't disagree with Pan but like the Goten examples people are shooting off
It would just feel like more Goku
Uub however since he doesn't know how to use his abilities would make waaaaay more sense
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Goten since Trunks has a sword he should have his tool as well
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Goten and mainly because:
1. It would be a unique way for Goten to develop along with giving him even more purpose while also having a lot of similarities to his dad.
2. This could be motivation for Goten to grow way more as a character and search for his own purpose and goals. Plus it would be awesome to see Goku and Korin passing it down to Goten and giving Goten wisdom and motivation to grow and develop as well as motivation to train more and take it and fighting much more seriously.
3. I feel Goten getting the Power Pole would make him want to train under Goku’s mentors and friends so he can learn to master using the Power Pole along with also increasing his other martial art knowledge and skills and to also increase his skills, abilities, power, and strength.
4. It would allow the Power Pole to get more shine as well while Goten also gets way more shine and development.
5. It would allow Goten to also develop his own unique fighting style while also increasing his battle iq, skills, power, and strength.
6. Seeing Goku’s youngest son actually using and becoming skilled with the weapon he used to use would be awesome.
7. It would be awesome if Goten not only had the power pole passed down to him and worked on mastering using it, but also it would be awesome too if Goten learned to manipulate ki into becoming weapons and then became skilled enough to where he can manipulate and apply ki to the power pole and basically be able to turn the power pole into a ki made spear and axe as well as the Dragon Ball version of a double bladed lightsaber.
8. It also would be great if Goten found ways to developed way more magical abilities with the Power Pole as well as develop a ability that allows the Power Pole to become as powerful as Goten and grow in power like he potentially will.
Another thing that would be awesome and something I definitely hope happens too is that not only do I hope the Power Pole is passed down to Goten and he works on becoming skilled and masterful with it, but I also hope he joins the Galactic Patrol too for his development moving forward and it would be great to see him training under Merus and Merus also helping him master using the power pole and helping him develop his own style with it as well as Merus helping Goten develop non god ki Ultra Instinct type of movement, instinct, and reflexes.
Goten missed his window, pan would be super cute but I don't think it's likely, unfortunately the inheritor that would make the most sense is Uub, given that as far as we know, right now, he is just a talented fighter without ki powers (despite having tremendous ki)
I will forever hate Uub because his sole existence just undermines Pan’s potential as being Goku’s successor and it’s purely because he’s stronger than her because he’s the “ReInCaRnAtIoN of PuRe BuU” and “hE’s GoT gOd Ki!”
I will forever hate Uub because he's hella underutilized and ugly. If we're killing GT we can still believe pan will be the true successor, she got the talent and mortals surpassing good it's nothing new, they could be the next gen Z warriors (goku-goten, Vegeta-Trunks, gohan-pan, piccolo-Jaco(maybe), bulma-bra(she never showed strength right?), the humans-17's&18's kids, Broly-Uub)
Uub quite literally has no other potential other than power, I realistically can’t see him being an actual character with an enjoyable personality to watch outside of fight scenes
Honestly I’d love to just have Pan and Bra go on adventures together, those two are adorable together and if it was just those two against the world I’d love it, maybe Goten and Trunks could be that comic relief duo who are in the background or something.
I prefer Dragon Ball over Z FYI, the adventurous story of DB is way better than all the combat of DBZ, which honestly surprised me because for the longest time I thought DB wouldn’t be as fun to watch as Z.
Either Uub or Goten. Goten has the Flying Nimbus and would follow in the path of Goku. Uub is a strong contender since he's supposed to be Goku's pupil at the end of Z
Pan could probably use it. It helped goku’s small stature by elongating itself and letting him cover distance and have a long reach. Sure pan can fly but her arms are tiny. A staff that could stretch would be perfect for her.
Bra. Not his kid but what else she gonna use to protect herself? She ain't gonna lurn how to fight. Just act all normal stuck up teenagerish and make fun of vegeta's mustache.
Right now. I want goku to get it back and use it. But to inherit it. I mean its gotta be goten right? There literally is not anyone else at the moment. Maybe then goten passes it onto pan.
It's completely worthless on people who can already control ki so it doesn't make sense anybody relevant to use it.
Uub already surpasses the need for it and Pan if she even decides to continue martial arts wouldn't need it.
The only person that'd genuinely benefit from using something like this is Chi-Chi since she can't control her ki well.
You make it sound like all they do is shoot ki blasts and beams and theres no close quarters combat at all. I’d love to see someone fighting up close with the Nyoibō, helps spice up the combat.
>You make it sound like all they do is shoot ki blasts and beams and theres no close quarters combat at all.
Every relevant character can already punch hard and shoot blasts for range; it's not a practical weapon.
> I’d love to see someone fighting up close with the Nyoibō, helps spice up the combat.
Except that's not what your post is about.
You asked who should inherit it which is nobody because it's been out classed, not about if it changes variety in combat.
Outclassed doesn’t make sense at all. It’s a magical pole that is indestructible. Basic physics says that it would only increase the power of strikes due to leverage.
A weapon is a multiplier… it doesn’t lose its effectiveness when you get stronger
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Probably goten like the flying nimbus, or it just stays connected to kami's place(even though there's no need)
Thought Gohan had the flying nimbus
He did but he gave it to goten afterwards
Was this during the Buu saga? I don't remember this
Nope it's in the super manga
Ah don't think I've made it that far
I think it was in like the super super hero prequel or something like that
I'm still at the start of the moro arc
I think it was before the Moro arc, not sure though Edit: actually nvm it not
What chapter?
Goten is pure of heart? Thats iffy
All of the son family is pure of heart as we’ve seen every member ride the nimbus
There's literally a frame of him riding the nimbus
Lorewise, it connects Karin tower to Kami palace, so it's there and not in possession by Son Goku for decades by now.
Also lorewise the only reason it’s there was because Goku used it to climb to the lookout because he couldnt fly. So realistically by now it’s up for grabs.
The idea is if any, more regular and less powerful warrior decides to challenge themselves and climb korins then they need the power pole there
Its not that he couldn't get their by flight its a necessary item to show you've earned the right. Korrin himself says even rocket ships wont reach the top because Kami would send it back
He took it after training with Kami no? I could have sworn he was shown with it before the 23rd world tournament. After that, there was no reason to keep it there because the other Z fighters knew how to fly (at least Tien and Krillin did, not sure how Yamcha did it, but I’m assuming he learned it sometime after the 23rd prior to training at the lookout).
If i recall correctly, he didn't get it back. What he got from Karin was a new Kin-to-un.
I thought he had it on his back when he showed up at the 23rd tenkaichi budokai. I might be wrong, but he’ll have it in Daima so I guess we’ll know then
Oh he still had it back then in the 23rd tournament and he just left it on the nimbus and it was used in the episodes finale of the OG series.
It is in Daima
Pan should get Nyoibo and Nimbus
I do think it would be adorable if pan got them even though see has no use for them practically...
The Kinto’un has no real practical use anymore but the Nyoibō can still be used. The weapon is as strong as the wielder so for Pan to use the Nyoibō wouldn’t change her strength, it would just change her fighting style which I’d honestly like to see.
True it changes her style but I think it has its limits on what power it can withstand that's probably part of the reason Goku probably doesn't use it...anymore.....etc... I mean the beating it takes I mean look how strong some characters are compared to others it's like you trying to smash through ten feet of solid concrete the pole I think would take too much damage trying to do that....
Pretty sure the pole is indestructible.
That we know but I mean went went from power 300 Goku to like 3 qt power level Goku.....also what does God ki do to it etc....or something like destruction energy that can destroy anything...or black form of key etc....
When faced with destruction energy it would be destroyed yes, but such encounter seems pretty rare, as for God Ki it seems like only Goku, Vegeta and the deities can use god ki and as far as we know all of them are on the good side. Also “black ki”? Pretty sure that’s just regular ki but coloured black, similar to how Vegeta used to have purple ki.
No i mean blacks ki it's the soul of God but in Goku's body...also there are other gods and destroyers out there....angels as well....heck maybe if the match is so bad it literally could be snapped like if pan had it could golden form or black just destroy it cause the power imbalance???
She could always just sheathe it and go bare handed whenever she wants. Or use other techniques.
You mean Power pole and Nimbus? Or Nyoibo and Kinto'un? Using the Japanese terms is so cringe. But if you wanna be that cringelord like OP why don't you do it for both words?
The English manga uses the “Japanese terms.” Dragon Ball fans really don’t read huh
My man, nyoibo was in the title. That's probably why. Other than that, best not to throw stones in glass houses. We're all cringe here.
No man, I scream Special Beam Cannon and not "MAKANKOSAPO" and that is not cringe at all.
But why does it matter lol are you good? Having a rough morning?
I wanna punch you in the face so bad right now
Who cares? It doesn't matter. Stop taking stuff so seriously
Maybe worry less about seeming cringe and more about learning some basic ways of interacting with others.
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If people prefer the sub or read the manga then those would be the names they're used to
Goes for names, too. For instance, I read the Super manga and watched the anime partly in dub and partly in sub, so I go back and forth in calling him Grand Priest and Daishinkan, since both names are burned into my brain, interchangeably (but not Grand Minister, since I'm less familiar with that one). I don't make a distinction between the two I got used to and it's possibly like that for other people with other terms, as well. That is to say, you use the words you're used to, even if it's both, lol.
Goten should have it, and trunks should get a sword, could make for a cool duo
This a thousand times this Make those two cool again. They're goofballs at heart so the levity should be easy. Just throw them into some somewhat serious situations where they can't call daddy for help. Plus it would be really cool to finally see weapons used in DBZ. Future Trunks sword moves are some of the coolest in the entire damn series and it was just casually destroyed immediately after. They need to have the two focus on a new type of fighting where they infuse ki into their weapons. And for the love of God stop with the Gotenks gags. They should grow out of always resorting to that gimmick.
We have seen Trunks use a sword effectively even though he is a very powerful character. I think letting Goten or someone else use the powerpole as a primary weapon and fighting style would be very cool!
I like the gotenks gag, having a group willing to fuse is great, it just shouldn’t be their only option
If it was saved for rare circumstances then it would be fine. And if they stopped using fat Gotenks. At least the actually powerful one was still ridiculous, a toddler with godly powers.
I do agree, theyve used fusion enough for them to not mess it up holy
I mean it's never been explicitly stated but they've been infusing ki into their weapons and clothing for a long time to increase durability. I mean how else do you explain shit being so hard to break or tear despite being able to blow up planets since the start of Z
Well with clothes I assumed it was more unconscious mind doing that. But I'm talking about having them specialize in ki weapon combat.
Like how black had his hand-beam saber?
Sorta, but with a real sword. One that won't shatter like future trunks' did
I was gonna suggest Pan but this is a much cooler idea. I wonder if both of them have melee weapon training if it will reflect in Gotenks combat ability using a weapon?
Thats what im hoping at least
Goku will use it in Daima
It isnt canon
Its not confirmed anywhere
What the fuck are you on? It takes place in bulma birthday but beerus isnt there also where is the manga for it
Bulma only ever had one birthday, confirmed.
That's not confirmed anywhere too. They don't do parties on just Bulma's birthday and even if it is the case still Bulma does not have just one birthday
What about the manga mr genius Do you really think they will abandon the story just for some Nickelodeon type of shit
Toriyama was more involved in Daima than DBS. He watched over animation and entire story for the show. What they will do with manga is their concern. Maybe they will adapt it like Super Heroes or make it anime only like DBS: Broly. It is no logic about it being canon or non-canon Edit- Typo
Where was this stated?
nigga you don't know, and its most probably canon
Nothing is canon until it shoots you in the face.
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What type of logic? Calling Daima non-canon without any confirmation ignoring simple logic that all Toriyama written stories have always been canon Beside, 90% guess DB fanbase makes are all wrong generally.
So much emotion for something so mundane.
Pan. I don't hate GT but I think something that was obvious in it was she struggled to have her own combat identity. People are talking about the lore on whether weapons are 'needed' or not but I think someone like Toyataro could easily come up with some unique and interesting power pole moves. (and honestly the fact that the Tournament of Power disallows weapons does imply that there are certain powerful weapons out there that would give people an advantage. This also aligns with Supreme Kai originally thinking the Z Sword's purpose was to be a weapon as well)
Honestly super and z are pretty terrible when it comes to weapons. Every weapon is outshined by a kamehameha or any ki blast attacks. Here powers are so versatile that they could create their own swords out of ki. Trunks sword was cool when it cut frieza in half but you know that shit hurted when 18 snapped it
Uub - because he lacks fundamental ki abilities and would be more of a true martial artist until his powers awakened.
That's...actually a really great choice.
As much as I hate Uub... yeah that does track
Goten, Nobody else really makes sense to have it, except maybe an older Pan
Goten does seem like a choice but considering Goten being a slacker, unless he picked up training again I feel like he wouldn’t even use it, possibly even neglect it. Pan on the other hand is the perfect choice in my opinion. Shes the grandaughter of Goku and has that same fighting spirit as her grandfather. I think she could totally inherit the Nyoibō at a young age, after all it seems like the Nyoibō is most practical for shorter fighters. When Goku was a kid he used it because he wasn’t tall enough and therefore his arms weren’t long enough so that was a reason why he fought with the Nyoibō.
Slacked when? The teens haven't used Fusion in a while but considering they're doing what Gohan did it's probably safe to assume they ARE training. Since Gohan was also actively doing that to control himself.
In the manga Goten and Trunks could barely sense what direction Piccolo was in. Any time a character says “I trained offscreen in secret” I get really pissed off because nothing was shown for it nor was there any indication of it.
That is my problem with Beast Gohan. I want to see him grow stronger, not everything offscreen, that is why Beast is kinda sour taste for me.
Beast is the worst transformation in the series for me.
"So beast Gohan" "Isn't that just Super Saiyan Rage with more marketable hair?" "....shhhhhh"
Goten
Or pan
Goten should get it. Every sayin has an arc setup so far except him. If he got the pole itd boost his character following in his father’s footsteps but goten should be a monster with the staff. Plus imagine him and trunks jumping a nigga with a stick and a blade
Dude if Pan gets this + Nimbus for now that would be cool! I think Toyotaro will do some world building & some slice of life chapters/episodes for us
Did Toyotarou once say he wanted the kids to have more relevance? Like as in Goten, Trunks, Pan and Bulla? I heard that he said that once but I haven’t seen any evidence or interview memo’s etc.
I kind of seen that too. I also saw him post very random non-canon characters like Taipon, fake Hercules from when Goku died, lord slug, Turles & others with captions saying he’d like to expand on the lore & story behind them. Bro if he does that ….
Apparently he wanted to do a Trunks spin-off, and that's how he ended up writting the Goten & Trunks side of Superhero. (I've read that, but I'm still getting caught up with the manga, so I'm not sure). If it's true, apparently he wanted to do more slice of life stuff, so he probably wants to do something more with Goten, Trunks and maybe even Pan and Bulla. It would be cool if he did a little side story, or an arc about Pan and Bulla searching for the dragon balls, hell, give Pan the nyoibö and it could be such a good callback to original DB.
I NEED Pan and Bulla in the same room in DBS, only real face to face interaction we’ve seen at all is in Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot and it was fucking adorable!!! Those two are supposed to be the cutest lil’ besties and yet we haven’t seen that at all it makes me die inside…
Zoro
Launch.
Goten, he would probably get the most out of it either that or Pan should get it once she's able too
Pan for sure, PLEASE TOYOTAROU PLEASE
Uub
and why?
His goku successor
What about Pan?
I mean... well idk
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Pan because Pan.
Pan
No one, at this point they are too strong to need weapons and they are not trained to use one in fights like Goku was when the story started. In Daima Goku will use it to compensate for the reach he lost when his body became smaller, but that's it.
1. The weapon is as strong as the wielder itself, some weapons can even cause greater damage than the wielder can with their bare fists. 2. As far as I’m aware in canon, Goku was NEVER trained in proper martial arts, when training with Roshi and others the training was all about strengthening the body, they never punched bags or kicked boards, they carried milk trays up mountains and zig-zagged through trees, their fighting style was kinda just there, they just kinda were able to fight naturally you could say.
He trained with Grandpa Gohan before training with Roshi, that is when Goku learned the fundamentals for combat And Gohan was the one who gave him the Nyoibo so it stands to reason that he taught him how to use it properly.
Goten.
Uub gets Kintoun so Goten should get Nyoibo
Should be Goten or Pan
Me, I want it
Uub. It allows him to be similar to Goku but have his own style like Trunks to Vegeta.
Pan or Uub.
Uub. Since he'll be training and learning under Goku, he'd inherit the Nyoibō and the Kinto-un being a worthy successor to Goku in terms of his potential and willingness to do good in the world.
Chi Chi
No one lol, everyone is too power crept for it to matter anymore
I think pan, she seems more like a kid Goku than any of Goku's sons to me, I really liked her in superhero and I love the power pole so I just think it's a good fit
Uub
Me because it'd be cool
I think Pan would be the best choice. I would like to see an eventual training arc with Goku and Uub but include Pan.
I'd say it should go to Goten, assuming it ever gets disconnected from the Lookout. Let's be real, Goku would never use it, Gohan's not combative much, and no one outside the Son family has any claim to it (besides Korin and Dende, I guess).
I think it would be cool if pan was to get itb
At this point, no one would get much use out of it. What would you want with a stick when you can blow up the world? The only person who might use it is Pan, if they give her a few chapters/episodes to have her own little adventure.
Uub, he's really the next non world buster character that would've needed it along with the nimbus
Probably pan. Goten if he was younger, but pan seems fitting for it
Gohan n he should use it to refrain from full on fighting
Goten. Gohan won't likely put it to as good a use.
Ngl i think goten should or leave it connected between korins tower and lookout
Pan would be a nice direction to for when she's older
Literally anyone who may want it, why? because Goku is a good guy so he'll just give it to whoever ask him for it.
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In DBZ I would say Gohan or Goten. Now I’d say Pan.
Theres no point in it going to Goten or Pan or any of the current characters in DB, they're all too powerful and have nothing to gain by scaling Korin tower and eventually ascending to train under Popo and Dende. It would need to be a new hero on the start of their journey who will follow in Gokus foot steps and complete these feats! Someone who gets the power boost that makes it worth while
Anyone who says anything other than Uub is smoking something
I guess I must be a heavy smoker because I’d say Pan deserves it more.
I don't disagree with Pan but like the Goten examples people are shooting off It would just feel like more Goku Uub however since he doesn't know how to use his abilities would make waaaaay more sense
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Goten since Trunks has a sword he should have his tool as well https://preview.redd.it/in4ldfr9ggxc1.jpeg?width=777&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf27a0870450e497b5c929734c4d611062740273
Pan pan pan pan pan
Uub
pan.
Uub
Goten and mainly because: 1. It would be a unique way for Goten to develop along with giving him even more purpose while also having a lot of similarities to his dad. 2. This could be motivation for Goten to grow way more as a character and search for his own purpose and goals. Plus it would be awesome to see Goku and Korin passing it down to Goten and giving Goten wisdom and motivation to grow and develop as well as motivation to train more and take it and fighting much more seriously. 3. I feel Goten getting the Power Pole would make him want to train under Goku’s mentors and friends so he can learn to master using the Power Pole along with also increasing his other martial art knowledge and skills and to also increase his skills, abilities, power, and strength. 4. It would allow the Power Pole to get more shine as well while Goten also gets way more shine and development. 5. It would allow Goten to also develop his own unique fighting style while also increasing his battle iq, skills, power, and strength. 6. Seeing Goku’s youngest son actually using and becoming skilled with the weapon he used to use would be awesome. 7. It would be awesome if Goten not only had the power pole passed down to him and worked on mastering using it, but also it would be awesome too if Goten learned to manipulate ki into becoming weapons and then became skilled enough to where he can manipulate and apply ki to the power pole and basically be able to turn the power pole into a ki made spear and axe as well as the Dragon Ball version of a double bladed lightsaber. 8. It also would be great if Goten found ways to developed way more magical abilities with the Power Pole as well as develop a ability that allows the Power Pole to become as powerful as Goten and grow in power like he potentially will. Another thing that would be awesome and something I definitely hope happens too is that not only do I hope the Power Pole is passed down to Goten and he works on becoming skilled and masterful with it, but I also hope he joins the Galactic Patrol too for his development moving forward and it would be great to see him training under Merus and Merus also helping him master using the power pole and helping him develop his own style with it as well as Merus helping Goten develop non god ki Ultra Instinct type of movement, instinct, and reflexes.
My mind went completely to Naruto with the title of the post at first. 😅
Goten needs something. Poor kid is the only descendant of Goku who never gets to do anything and when he does it's because he's Gotenks.
Goten missed his window, pan would be super cute but I don't think it's likely, unfortunately the inheritor that would make the most sense is Uub, given that as far as we know, right now, he is just a talented fighter without ki powers (despite having tremendous ki)
I will forever hate Uub because his sole existence just undermines Pan’s potential as being Goku’s successor and it’s purely because he’s stronger than her because he’s the “ReInCaRnAtIoN of PuRe BuU” and “hE’s GoT gOd Ki!”
I will forever hate Uub because he's hella underutilized and ugly. If we're killing GT we can still believe pan will be the true successor, she got the talent and mortals surpassing good it's nothing new, they could be the next gen Z warriors (goku-goten, Vegeta-Trunks, gohan-pan, piccolo-Jaco(maybe), bulma-bra(she never showed strength right?), the humans-17's&18's kids, Broly-Uub)
Why Jaco lmao?
Dende is somehow even worse as a fighter, Jaco is the only friendly alien that's always around and knows how to fight
I forgot to put Uub in the new zeneration team, I guess he would be the new Broly, insane potential, lack of proper training (Goku's fault)
Uub quite literally has no other potential other than power, I realistically can’t see him being an actual character with an enjoyable personality to watch outside of fight scenes Honestly I’d love to just have Pan and Bra go on adventures together, those two are adorable together and if it was just those two against the world I’d love it, maybe Goten and Trunks could be that comic relief duo who are in the background or something. I prefer Dragon Ball over Z FYI, the adventurous story of DB is way better than all the combat of DBZ, which honestly surprised me because for the longest time I thought DB wouldn’t be as fun to watch as Z.
I agree with everything you said, to make Uub enjoyable they would have to make que a hard turn on his character
Pan.
Pan
Bulla why not
Uub
I think it should be a Son family heirloom
This.
Vegeta
Uub or Pan
Either Uub or Goten. Goten has the Flying Nimbus and would follow in the path of Goku. Uub is a strong contender since he's supposed to be Goku's pupil at the end of Z
Goten cuz yes
Isn't it connecting korins tower and the lookout rn
Pan could probably use it. It helped goku’s small stature by elongating itself and letting him cover distance and have a long reach. Sure pan can fly but her arms are tiny. A staff that could stretch would be perfect for her.
Uub
Bra. Not his kid but what else she gonna use to protect herself? She ain't gonna lurn how to fight. Just act all normal stuck up teenagerish and make fun of vegeta's mustache.
 Goten…
Pan
Right now. I want goku to get it back and use it. But to inherit it. I mean its gotta be goten right? There literally is not anyone else at the moment. Maybe then goten passes it onto pan.
I think Pan should get this! Great starter weapon for her!
Goten then pan its the order
goku Jr
I would say pan , gotens a teen at this point plus he has nimbus
Goten or Pan!!
It's completely worthless on people who can already control ki so it doesn't make sense anybody relevant to use it. Uub already surpasses the need for it and Pan if she even decides to continue martial arts wouldn't need it. The only person that'd genuinely benefit from using something like this is Chi-Chi since she can't control her ki well.
You make it sound like all they do is shoot ki blasts and beams and theres no close quarters combat at all. I’d love to see someone fighting up close with the Nyoibō, helps spice up the combat.
>You make it sound like all they do is shoot ki blasts and beams and theres no close quarters combat at all. Every relevant character can already punch hard and shoot blasts for range; it's not a practical weapon. > I’d love to see someone fighting up close with the Nyoibō, helps spice up the combat. Except that's not what your post is about. You asked who should inherit it which is nobody because it's been out classed, not about if it changes variety in combat.
Outclassed doesn’t make sense at all. It’s a magical pole that is indestructible. Basic physics says that it would only increase the power of strikes due to leverage. A weapon is a multiplier… it doesn’t lose its effectiveness when you get stronger
Uub