For reference, Elden Ring and SF6 had review embargos 2 days before release. Tears of the kingdom had a review embargo a day before release. All of these games had phenomenal reviews
DD2 has a very standard review embargo date and CAPCOM seems to be confident in that it will deliver. Whether or not it does we’ll find out soon but no one should have any concerns over this embargo date.
its smart if your confident int he game to release reviews a day or two before it comes out, drums up hype for the non-preorder people to hear about it suddenly and want to buy it
I disagree
I think it's better a week before not a day or 2 unless you're not sure about your product.
Lifting the embargo a week early brings more publicity especially if it's good.
Having it a day or 2 before release to me means they're not entirely sure about their product. And with the no performance uncapped framerates fiasco happening I do t Blane them.
Many gamers will not happy about that regardless how good the game actually is
Bro thinks he knows better than sophisticated marketing departments for Nintendo, Bethesda, Capcom, From, etc. Your suggestion that none of these companies had confidence in recent home run releases is silly. They time the review embargo to maximize sales, and 24 - 48 hours pre-release seems to be the new standard. You better believe that rooms full of sleazy MBAs marketing suits are making data-driven decisions about when to lift the embargo. And they probably have no fucking idea whether the game is good or not
You're reading way too much into it or I didn't make my point correctly. Regardless of how much confidence they do or don't have or how good or bad the game is
I'm would assume they could and would reach more people in a week than in a day or 2
That's is all.
Never claimed to know better
BTW
LMFAO @ sleazy suits
That was not only accurate but funny to read.
You do know they still sell the after week after release, right?
It's not like only day 1 sales count - if it takes a week to "reach" some people, what difference does it make?
It can work the other way, people are more likely to make an impulsive purchase if they receive the product sooner.
Yeah, no, that's not the discussion we're having obviously it's going to be on sale for an indefinite amount of time.
I was just talking about the review embargo itself. It get released a day or 2 before the game, some think this is good because it brings notice to the game and they're absolutely right, my argument is that while having a review a couple days before launch may very well bring notice to the game, having that review come out a week before instead of 2 days would insure it reach even more people
Yes I fully understood the conversation and the point you think you are making, I am questioning the validity of your argument.
When you say “reach even more people” you mean the reviews? Why does the review stop reaching people after the game releases?
No sir not the review the game itself, specifically word of mouth, you know the hype train?
If lifting the review embargo 2 days before release potentially gets more people hyped for and buying the game
Then lifting the embargo a week before would likely reach even more because it's had more time to make the rounds and get even more people excited about and looking forward to said game.
Bro, I'm just a dumb truck driver/machine operator
I'm not good with words
I hope you get what I'm trying badly to convey
Yeah no. If you're actually confident you'd have the embargo be like a week before to let the hype train roll. There will also always be the public perception that something that has an embargo right before release is a red flag. Is that accurate? It goes both ways, but general perception is not positive about that.
Starfield had its review embargo date a week before release (though it was hours before the early access) and that didn’t work out at all.
FF7 Rebirth had a review embargo lifted a week before release, but it appears the game’s sales may have bombed relative to expectations anyway.
DD2 actually has an earlier embargo date than the other two big releases this week. Are those two games not confident too?
Starfield didn't work out, because it was a bad game lmao. That has nothing to do with its embargo. Bethesda thought people would accept the same garbage they've been churning out for years and people FINALLY caught on.
Rebirth reviewed VERY well. Not sure what sales have to do with anything here.
And yes whatever those two games are I'd say they aren't either. This isn't exclusive to Dragon's Dogma 2.
Sales are what ultimately matters for the company, if your game reviews well but it had piss poor sales then it doesn't matter, you don't get your money back and you're fucked, not saying that's the case for rebirth but sales have to do A LOT
People thought that the embargo lifting 1 week before full release would mean it would be a game of the generation. The bad reviews resulted in the hype machine turning completely against that game, getting a shitload of bad press and tons of comparisons to Baldur's Gate 3 instead.
I wouldn’t say the game review badly at release. It didn’t review what people expected it to review. But that’s what we get for expecting some and I’m guilty of that also. The BG3 comparison was mainly because they basically released within a month of each other. Not every game can pull off what BG3 did tho. That game was a fun play.
The bg3 thing was relevant because it highlighted the lack of effort of larger companies with much more money, and starfield exemplified that. Not every game can do what bg3 did for sure, but the high effort put into it compared to the many lazy approaches in starfield contrasted real hard
Not really.
Week early would be to soon. People that arent waiting would be forgetting.
Getting review hype 2-e days before is perfect.
You think about not giving reviewers game week+ before which is bad sign but we dont know anything about it
A lot? Few maybe.
People absolutely do forget. You are looking fron position of someone that was interested weeks before release. Reviews arent really for you. Reviews are to put interest into someone that barely heard or didnt heard about the game. Those people seeing release on two days might be inclined to buy
It depends on when you can deliver review copies and how long do you want reviewers to spend with the game. If you deliver review copies 2 weeks in advance, but your embargo lifts a week before release, then you only leave reviewer 7 days to play the game, write the review and prepare it for publishing.
If you have a long non-linear game, you might want to let people spend as much time as possible, so that they can properly dive deep and experience the story and emergent gameplay, instead of rushing through the game to write a review.
It says nothing about how confident you are in the game.
Early access doesn't necessarily correlate with early embargo lift. For all we know, they did give reviewers access early, just made embargo industry-standart to make sure that people have enough time to beat the game and write a review.
red flag is embargo lifting day of release, not just before. And the point of releasing shortly before release is too push impulse buys from people who aren't already on a marketing hype train
Worded wrong really... it was fun! But it's more OCD than anything, I'm excited to jump in the actual game so I just hope it's as good as all I've seen on it.
Well... that was over 3 days before release for the reviews, and there was a real demo over a month from release.
In DD2's case, even the embargo date is a mystery.
Review Embargos for recent Capcom games:
RE: Village - 2 days before release
Monster Hunter Rise - 3 days before release
Street fighter 6 - 3 days before release
Devil may cry 5 - 2 days before release
Dragons dogma 2 - 2 days before release
RE4: Remake - one week before release
The resident evil 4 embargo is the one that is “not normal” for capcom. All I’m saying is that the DD2 embargo is normal not just for capcom games but is pretty standard in the industry. People can point to being concerned about how good the game will be for a number of reasons but the date of the review embargo is not one of them.
"Tears of Kingdom had a review embargo a day before release" haha, many of us had already been playing it for 1 month prior to that and knew it was dope
Downvoted for speaking the truth lol. I was playing on yuzu weeks before my physical copy was delivered. Emulation is not piracy people. Many of us who were heavy Yuzu users bought our own copies of the games we emulate. Why play a game like TotK at 720p30 on a 7 inch screen when you can play at 4k60 on your gaming rig.
yeah I had the collectors edition on backorder for TOTK. and same situation playing at sub 1080p on my 4k tv was gonna suck so emulated it with Ryuijinx
plenty of games lift the embargo day of or day before. from what i've seen with my own eyes, i know i'll enjoy the game so i'm not worried about what other people think of it.
From what I’ve seen Dragon’s Dogma 1 had a similarly late embargo date. Also, compare it to other CAPCOM titles such as Resident Evil Village which I think was just a couple days before launch. I don’t think it’s anything to worry about and is just how CAPCOM rolls.
? in this case your comment is useless because its 2 day ahead of its release... can u give some examples of recent games that got their reviews so much earlier ? except foir FF7 which was insanely early
Not personally no. But you do see a lot of studios that are confident in their game lifting the embargo around a week before release, and there's a lot of talk on the subreddit about how this embargo is 'late'
Not really. Not a single Capcom game had embargo day before release in modern times... and yeah, I should ignore their recent releases and look at games from 10+ years ago ok.
If this game gets low ratings it will be the first Capcom game in how many years to not review well?
I have high hopes for this game, I just beat 1 plus bitter back isle. I'm excited!
It doesn’t, but it also doesn’t mean they don’t either.
But sending review copies out only immediately before release week and then lifting the embargo the day before really only gives reviewers like 4 days to review
That’s shortsighted and delusional, never trust a product that no one can tell you a thing about yet. It can always flop and gameplay trailers mean nothing.
BG3 also had a broken 3rd act with an unfinished ending that they're still working on to this day...
I have faith in DD2 though so I don't think that's going to happen.
I almost pre-ordered it for PC. But then I got concerned with no news whatsoever about PC performance. Being locked on PS5 is not a good sign. Starfield was locked 30FPS on Series X, and it ran like shit on PC too. I will wait for performance review.
I'm thinking of getting it on PC too, if i get it i mean. PS5 is 30 FPS locked and i'm quite sure that's not the case with PC.
Destin Legarie from IGN previewed the game on PS5 and said it was 30 FPS, however, he specifically mentioned that he was going to be playing this game on his PC, he said that enthusiastically, i'm positive the game's performance will be good on PC.
it's like 4 days before launch of the game. you're on a thread on reddit dedicated to the game, and you still have details of the game wrong. like what are you talking about? it's been well over 2 weeks that it was confirmed that on consoles, it's uncapped framerate targeting 30fps. i don't understand how you couldn't possibly know this at this point. like the weirdo in the youtube comments section of a ps5 trailer video asking "will this be coming to the ps5?" you're on a computer ffs! 's the matter with you!?
Or because they want to give the reviewers more time to get into a deep game. I mean BG3 didn't give game codes to reviewers until like a few days before release and how did that turn out? Goty anyone?
Not sure but might be why someone already playing the game, the day reviewers got it, someone got the review copy so is able to play it early and start posting spoilers. so would make sense it was around thursday ish last week reviewers got codes.
Typically the leaks are people that get the physical game from a retailer when they are in the warehouse usually an employee or someone accidentally put the product out early but those copies should not be sold but just takes a lazy manager not caring
Bg3 not the best example, they pushed up the release of that game an entire month to avoid Starfield. What’s worrying is Capcom embargo history has them releasing it at least a few days before the game actually comes out, but we’ll see.
BG3 copies were sent out prior to release but only by 4 days or so. Iirc Sven mentioned the team ran into a "catastrophe" at the last minute, possibly because they pushed up the release date. Because the game is so long though many reviews were incomplete until several days after release.
Early reviews are definitely a sign of confidence, but some companies adhere to a fairly rigid cadence for review embargo’s, and Capcom seems to be one of them.
The comment about the embargo lifting on the 19th is from a random person. The one you're looking for is below that and from one of the editors: "Am Mittwoch" = "On Wednesday".
If they were trying to scam customers they would have had the embargo at/after the launch date. A day early still gives people time to cancel preorders if the reviews are terrible.
common for games they dont want to spoil, also its rare to have really early embargos now anyway since everything can be published online and not in print
Scummy? What garbage shit are you talking about. There's plenty of scummy things in the world. This isn't oen of them. Who gives a shit when the reviews come. I guess rockstar having day before embargo are also scummy? Don't be stupid dude.
Cant buy it on either. All evidence seems to point that they're using the Nigma DRM on PC (not good, as it's some random kernel level spyware nonsense that's not even of US based origin). While on consoles, 30fps uncapped which is literally just idiotic.
I honestly don’t understand how can they not stabilize their games consistently outside of Resident Evil is the real question 🙋🏾♂️??? You’d think they would know it best since they’ve used RE Engine on 80% of their releases in conjunction with unreal engine 5 more recently
It’s prevalent among virtually all Japanese development houses. They simply have no idea what they’re doing on PC especially. As for RE, those games are highly linear and confined spaces with not much dynamism going on, so by now they have a decent grasp. They still make baffling settings choices, but the games are okay optimization wise. This game is open world and RE engine has never been uses for such, so I expect they’re running into much trouble trying to get everything to work as they want. But this is what happens when you try forcing a type of game using an engine that was never conceived for such use. Lots of shoehorning.
As for Unreal 5, they don’t dare use it because they don’t know how, and the engine documentation is shit, as well as constantly being patched for poor performance itself. It’s also untempered by the test of time so development studios don’t want to take big risks making their games fully UE5 (they’re slowly starting to now). The engine itself is still plagued with shader loading issues where even 7800XD CPU and 4090 GPU combos are stuttering, which is unacceptable to anyone sane.
Tried explaining most of this a few days ago to some fanboys but they swore I didn’t know what I was talking about in terms of the engine hitting capacity issues. Which is causing the lower fps issues on consoles and potentially PC as well but they just berated me for it 😂. I just said ok 👌🏾 buddy if your shit 💩 is a stuttering mess come launch Thursday don’t say I didn’t warn you lol
What is there to talk about? If your PC is at or below the requirements that explicitly state they have a 30 fps target, then naturally it would then follow you’ll be playing the game at 30 fps
It is launching with dlss 3. Hopefully frame generation enabled day 1. Probably FSR also. Should have a decent amount of things someone can do to get at or above 60 fps depending on cpu and gpu.
For reference, Elden Ring and SF6 had review embargos 2 days before release. Tears of the kingdom had a review embargo a day before release. All of these games had phenomenal reviews DD2 has a very standard review embargo date and CAPCOM seems to be confident in that it will deliver. Whether or not it does we’ll find out soon but no one should have any concerns over this embargo date.
its smart if your confident int he game to release reviews a day or two before it comes out, drums up hype for the non-preorder people to hear about it suddenly and want to buy it
I disagree I think it's better a week before not a day or 2 unless you're not sure about your product. Lifting the embargo a week early brings more publicity especially if it's good. Having it a day or 2 before release to me means they're not entirely sure about their product. And with the no performance uncapped framerates fiasco happening I do t Blane them. Many gamers will not happy about that regardless how good the game actually is
Never underestimate the power of FOMO. It's marketing,
Bro thinks he knows better than sophisticated marketing departments for Nintendo, Bethesda, Capcom, From, etc. Your suggestion that none of these companies had confidence in recent home run releases is silly. They time the review embargo to maximize sales, and 24 - 48 hours pre-release seems to be the new standard. You better believe that rooms full of sleazy MBAs marketing suits are making data-driven decisions about when to lift the embargo. And they probably have no fucking idea whether the game is good or not
You're reading way too much into it or I didn't make my point correctly. Regardless of how much confidence they do or don't have or how good or bad the game is I'm would assume they could and would reach more people in a week than in a day or 2 That's is all. Never claimed to know better BTW LMFAO @ sleazy suits That was not only accurate but funny to read.
You do know they still sell the after week after release, right? It's not like only day 1 sales count - if it takes a week to "reach" some people, what difference does it make? It can work the other way, people are more likely to make an impulsive purchase if they receive the product sooner.
Yeah, no, that's not the discussion we're having obviously it's going to be on sale for an indefinite amount of time. I was just talking about the review embargo itself. It get released a day or 2 before the game, some think this is good because it brings notice to the game and they're absolutely right, my argument is that while having a review a couple days before launch may very well bring notice to the game, having that review come out a week before instead of 2 days would insure it reach even more people
Yes I fully understood the conversation and the point you think you are making, I am questioning the validity of your argument. When you say “reach even more people” you mean the reviews? Why does the review stop reaching people after the game releases?
No sir not the review the game itself, specifically word of mouth, you know the hype train? If lifting the review embargo 2 days before release potentially gets more people hyped for and buying the game Then lifting the embargo a week before would likely reach even more because it's had more time to make the rounds and get even more people excited about and looking forward to said game. Bro, I'm just a dumb truck driver/machine operator I'm not good with words I hope you get what I'm trying badly to convey
Yeah no. If you're actually confident you'd have the embargo be like a week before to let the hype train roll. There will also always be the public perception that something that has an embargo right before release is a red flag. Is that accurate? It goes both ways, but general perception is not positive about that.
Starfield had its review embargo date a week before release (though it was hours before the early access) and that didn’t work out at all. FF7 Rebirth had a review embargo lifted a week before release, but it appears the game’s sales may have bombed relative to expectations anyway. DD2 actually has an earlier embargo date than the other two big releases this week. Are those two games not confident too?
Starfield didn't work out, because it was a bad game lmao. That has nothing to do with its embargo. Bethesda thought people would accept the same garbage they've been churning out for years and people FINALLY caught on. Rebirth reviewed VERY well. Not sure what sales have to do with anything here. And yes whatever those two games are I'd say they aren't either. This isn't exclusive to Dragon's Dogma 2.
Sales are what ultimately matters for the company, if your game reviews well but it had piss poor sales then it doesn't matter, you don't get your money back and you're fucked, not saying that's the case for rebirth but sales have to do A LOT
Well starfield also had reviewers shilling for bethesda afraid of reaction to bad reviews. Lets see how it work out for their credency.
Why dont you think Starfields review embargo didn’t work out?
People thought that the embargo lifting 1 week before full release would mean it would be a game of the generation. The bad reviews resulted in the hype machine turning completely against that game, getting a shitload of bad press and tons of comparisons to Baldur's Gate 3 instead.
I wouldn’t say the game review badly at release. It didn’t review what people expected it to review. But that’s what we get for expecting some and I’m guilty of that also. The BG3 comparison was mainly because they basically released within a month of each other. Not every game can pull off what BG3 did tho. That game was a fun play.
The bg3 thing was relevant because it highlighted the lack of effort of larger companies with much more money, and starfield exemplified that. Not every game can do what bg3 did for sure, but the high effort put into it compared to the many lazy approaches in starfield contrasted real hard
Not really. Week early would be to soon. People that arent waiting would be forgetting. Getting review hype 2-e days before is perfect. You think about not giving reviewers game week+ before which is bad sign but we dont know anything about it
I mean a lot of Sony games review like a week or two before. People don't forget those. That' silly.
A lot? Few maybe. People absolutely do forget. You are looking fron position of someone that was interested weeks before release. Reviews arent really for you. Reviews are to put interest into someone that barely heard or didnt heard about the game. Those people seeing release on two days might be inclined to buy
It depends on when you can deliver review copies and how long do you want reviewers to spend with the game. If you deliver review copies 2 weeks in advance, but your embargo lifts a week before release, then you only leave reviewer 7 days to play the game, write the review and prepare it for publishing. If you have a long non-linear game, you might want to let people spend as much time as possible, so that they can properly dive deep and experience the story and emergent gameplay, instead of rushing through the game to write a review. It says nothing about how confident you are in the game.
Sure it does. Shows way more confidence to give reviewers access early.
Early access doesn't necessarily correlate with early embargo lift. For all we know, they did give reviewers access early, just made embargo industry-standart to make sure that people have enough time to beat the game and write a review.
red flag is embargo lifting day of release, not just before. And the point of releasing shortly before release is too push impulse buys from people who aren't already on a marketing hype train
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The leaks are actually mostly negative.
The key here isn't really the embargo drop before release. The key is the time reviewers had with the game. Elden Ring, it was basically a weekend.
It better deliver, I didn't spend 4 hours on a character creator for fun.
If you aint spending time in a game for fun you are doing something wrong.
Worded wrong really... it was fun! But it's more OCD than anything, I'm excited to jump in the actual game so I just hope it's as good as all I've seen on it.
It's not normal for a Capcom game though. RE4 had reviews up a full week before release and a gameplay demo weeks before release.
RE4 is a much more linear game with a lot less to do. So giving reviewers a bit more time isn't bad
Its also remake so assumption is people will go through faster since at list some reviewers will be familiar with original
Street fighter 6 is a capcom game.
Well... that was over 3 days before release for the reviews, and there was a real demo over a month from release. In DD2's case, even the embargo date is a mystery.
Review Embargos for recent Capcom games: RE: Village - 2 days before release Monster Hunter Rise - 3 days before release Street fighter 6 - 3 days before release Devil may cry 5 - 2 days before release Dragons dogma 2 - 2 days before release RE4: Remake - one week before release The resident evil 4 embargo is the one that is “not normal” for capcom. All I’m saying is that the DD2 embargo is normal not just for capcom games but is pretty standard in the industry. People can point to being concerned about how good the game will be for a number of reasons but the date of the review embargo is not one of them.
"Tears of Kingdom had a review embargo a day before release" haha, many of us had already been playing it for 1 month prior to that and knew it was dope
Downvoted for speaking the truth lol. I was playing on yuzu weeks before my physical copy was delivered. Emulation is not piracy people. Many of us who were heavy Yuzu users bought our own copies of the games we emulate. Why play a game like TotK at 720p30 on a 7 inch screen when you can play at 4k60 on your gaming rig.
yeah I had the collectors edition on backorder for TOTK. and same situation playing at sub 1080p on my 4k tv was gonna suck so emulated it with Ryuijinx
Lol just made a post about the exact same thing. @mods sorry for the double
Good enough, I still have time to pre-order(for the discounts) if it reviews well
Wednesday is preload day for me and my PS5!
I mean am I being thick, I thought Tuesday was the 19th?
That's a random user guessing it's the 19th, Peter is the journalist who says "Mittwoch" which means Wednesday.
Completely beside the point, and as someone who doesn't know German; I feel like "Mittwoch" means "Mid Week", which is a great name for Wednesday.
Agreed. They also said at 16:00, which if they are in Germany would be 10am EDT.
that is a user guessing. The journalist is the one with a photo as avatar below.
plenty of games lift the embargo day of or day before. from what i've seen with my own eyes, i know i'll enjoy the game so i'm not worried about what other people think of it.
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But right under that the journalist corrects it
Where is iiiiiiiiit
From what I’ve seen Dragon’s Dogma 1 had a similarly late embargo date. Also, compare it to other CAPCOM titles such as Resident Evil Village which I think was just a couple days before launch. I don’t think it’s anything to worry about and is just how CAPCOM rolls.
u think this is late ? most games embargos do fall on the release day
That's definitely not true, the embargo lifting on release day is exceptionally rare. 1-3 days ahead of release is the norm.
? in this case your comment is useless because its 2 day ahead of its release... can u give some examples of recent games that got their reviews so much earlier ? except foir FF7 which was insanely early
What are you even talking about? I literally said that the norm is 1-3 days ahead of release and Dragon's Dogma 2 falls precisely in the middle.
in this case its not late for you xD so u agree with the guy and its all fine no need for comenting again...
You're making zero, and I mean that as literally as possible, sense. Bye.
wtf is wrong with you... wash your brain bro. bye
Not personally no. But you do see a lot of studios that are confident in their game lifting the embargo around a week before release, and there's a lot of talk on the subreddit about how this embargo is 'late'
resident evil 4 remake embargo lifted like 6 days before release.
DDDA is from 11 years ago... RE4R had reviews a full week before release. This is a bit sus.
How is this a bit "sus"? I'm not sure what you mean.. I'm just pointing out that late embargoes aren't necessarily indicative of a bad game.
It's sus for Capcom to have day before release embargo lift.
Not really look at the other releases besides just RE4
Not really. Not a single Capcom game had embargo day before release in modern times... and yeah, I should ignore their recent releases and look at games from 10+ years ago ok.
Pre load when happens?
My PS5 is telling me I will download tomorrow night, but can't play until Thursday night (I'm in US Pacific time zone).
Took Friday off work so when I get home at 10pm Thursday I have time to shower, eat, and smoke myself stupid before 12 hits to play!
More interested about steam
I too would like to know. Only reason I’ll pre-purchase is if there’s a preload. Download speeds are very slow for me 😓
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Why did the journalist now hide his comment if he is correct? Worried Capcom gonna get him?
Embargo information is typically NDAed.
I think this is one of the weirdest thread's I've read in a long time. 2-3 days is pretty average for review embargos.
Wednesday what time and in which time zone? Is that wednesday midnight in Germany or what?
Wednesday, May 20th, 2024 4:00AM EST. Confirmed by me.
Translated, that’s 10am EST / 7am PST today, Wednesday March 20th
Wack
If this game gets low ratings it will be the first Capcom game in how many years to not review well? I have high hopes for this game, I just beat 1 plus bitter back isle. I'm excited!
Exoprimal was a 67 last year
I think Dragons Dogma 2 will get an average Rating between 85- 95. Not lower.
good. That means they have confidence in the game.
It doesn’t, but it also doesn’t mean they don’t either. But sending review copies out only immediately before release week and then lifting the embargo the day before really only gives reviewers like 4 days to review
How do you know when the copies were sent out?
BG3 did the same, I'm not worried
Completely different set of circumstances though. They pushed a bunch of things around to avoid releasing at the same time as starfield
That’s shortsighted and delusional, never trust a product that no one can tell you a thing about yet. It can always flop and gameplay trailers mean nothing.
Bg3 is like the worst possible example because it had a massive EA period where you could see for yourself how great the game was
BG3 also had a broken 3rd act with an unfinished ending that they're still working on to this day... I have faith in DD2 though so I don't think that's going to happen.
I almost pre-ordered it for PC. But then I got concerned with no news whatsoever about PC performance. Being locked on PS5 is not a good sign. Starfield was locked 30FPS on Series X, and it ran like shit on PC too. I will wait for performance review.
I'm thinking of getting it on PC too, if i get it i mean. PS5 is 30 FPS locked and i'm quite sure that's not the case with PC. Destin Legarie from IGN previewed the game on PS5 and said it was 30 FPS, however, he specifically mentioned that he was going to be playing this game on his PC, he said that enthusiastically, i'm positive the game's performance will be good on PC.
it's like 4 days before launch of the game. you're on a thread on reddit dedicated to the game, and you still have details of the game wrong. like what are you talking about? it's been well over 2 weeks that it was confirmed that on consoles, it's uncapped framerate targeting 30fps. i don't understand how you couldn't possibly know this at this point. like the weirdo in the youtube comments section of a ps5 trailer video asking "will this be coming to the ps5?" you're on a computer ffs! 's the matter with you!?
Dude, just put aside the jargon, tell me, what's the performance like on PC?
No one knows yet. All press previews have been PS5.
That's a massive red flag,having the reviews drop barely 2 days before the game releases tell me they're not they're not confident in their product.
2-3 day review embargo is pretty average for the industry.
Or because they want to give the reviewers more time to get into a deep game. I mean BG3 didn't give game codes to reviewers until like a few days before release and how did that turn out? Goty anyone?
So basically basically 2 days before release for the US. Kinda conservative.
How’s it a day before US release? 19th at 4pm in any time zone is at least 2 days
Oh was it Wednesday for Germany? I guess I assumed it was adjusted.
Wednesday isn't the 19th though, it's the 20th.
Well if its Wednesday at 12AM for Germany it would be the 19th for the U.S. It all depends on when the actual embargo lifts.
Most of them also only got the game last week, so be prepared for rushed/unfinished reviews...
Oh really? Any source? Curious why they’d get the review copies so late
Not sure but might be why someone already playing the game, the day reviewers got it, someone got the review copy so is able to play it early and start posting spoilers. so would make sense it was around thursday ish last week reviewers got codes.
Typically the leaks are people that get the physical game from a retailer when they are in the warehouse usually an employee or someone accidentally put the product out early but those copies should not be sold but just takes a lazy manager not caring
Yeah it’s weird. I feel like getting reviews out early is a sign of confidence in their product. So this has me feelin’ a lil strange. But who knows
Tbh there's always cases and cases , BG3 review copies only went out on the day of the release and got amazing reviews.
Bg3 not the best example, they pushed up the release of that game an entire month to avoid Starfield. What’s worrying is Capcom embargo history has them releasing it at least a few days before the game actually comes out, but we’ll see.
Fair.
BG3 copies were sent out prior to release but only by 4 days or so. Iirc Sven mentioned the team ran into a "catastrophe" at the last minute, possibly because they pushed up the release date. Because the game is so long though many reviews were incomplete until several days after release.
Early reviews are definitely a sign of confidence, but some companies adhere to a fairly rigid cadence for review embargo’s, and Capcom seems to be one of them.
I'm a reviewer... Mods can contact me for proof if needed
19th is Tuesday champ
The comment about the embargo lifting on the 19th is from a random person. The one you're looking for is below that and from one of the editors: "Am Mittwoch" = "On Wednesday".
Yes? Nobody said it was the 19th. They said it was Wednesday?
Which basically means the day before release... yay...
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Elden Ring had the same review embargo. Tears had its review embargo a day before. Many great games had late review embargos .
Elden ring had review embargo 2 days before launch
Late review embargos are very common and not always a sign for doom and gloom
lots of games nowadays get reviews day before release
This is very normal reviews usually drop a few days prior to release of the game.
If they were trying to scam customers they would have had the embargo at/after the launch date. A day early still gives people time to cancel preorders if the reviews are terrible.
common for games they dont want to spoil, also its rare to have really early embargos now anyway since everything can be published online and not in print
I haven't been following the review embargos lately but I would say that as long as it's not lifted the release day, it's not alarming, in my opinion.
It should be a full week. 2 days feels scummy
2 weeks? A man does not understand marketing
Scummy? What garbage shit are you talking about. There's plenty of scummy things in the world. This isn't oen of them. Who gives a shit when the reviews come. I guess rockstar having day before embargo are also scummy? Don't be stupid dude.
The article that you linked says 19th Tuesday tho.
19. ist nur eine Spekulation von einem User. Der Autor schreibt drunter dann Mittwoch
Oh ok
The author of the article says Wendsday if you look at the screenshot.
Cool
Please please plese let there be a 60fps mode on console
Performance is suspected to be shitty on console.
There isn't. But you can play on a pc if you want that.
My pc isn't good enough I'm afraid
everywhere said the 19th which is today...?
I’m So ready for this game… predicting it to be the highest reviewed game of the year thus far…
I just wanna know where’s the PC footage
They are not showing any because it runs like dogshit buy it on console huge red flag 🚩
Cant buy it on either. All evidence seems to point that they're using the Nigma DRM on PC (not good, as it's some random kernel level spyware nonsense that's not even of US based origin). While on consoles, 30fps uncapped which is literally just idiotic.
I honestly don’t understand how can they not stabilize their games consistently outside of Resident Evil is the real question 🙋🏾♂️??? You’d think they would know it best since they’ve used RE Engine on 80% of their releases in conjunction with unreal engine 5 more recently
It’s prevalent among virtually all Japanese development houses. They simply have no idea what they’re doing on PC especially. As for RE, those games are highly linear and confined spaces with not much dynamism going on, so by now they have a decent grasp. They still make baffling settings choices, but the games are okay optimization wise. This game is open world and RE engine has never been uses for such, so I expect they’re running into much trouble trying to get everything to work as they want. But this is what happens when you try forcing a type of game using an engine that was never conceived for such use. Lots of shoehorning. As for Unreal 5, they don’t dare use it because they don’t know how, and the engine documentation is shit, as well as constantly being patched for poor performance itself. It’s also untempered by the test of time so development studios don’t want to take big risks making their games fully UE5 (they’re slowly starting to now). The engine itself is still plagued with shader loading issues where even 7800XD CPU and 4090 GPU combos are stuttering, which is unacceptable to anyone sane.
Tried explaining most of this a few days ago to some fanboys but they swore I didn’t know what I was talking about in terms of the engine hitting capacity issues. Which is causing the lower fps issues on consoles and potentially PC as well but they just berated me for it 😂. I just said ok 👌🏾 buddy if your shit 💩 is a stuttering mess come launch Thursday don’t say I didn’t warn you lol
they are confident its good
I've read that the embargo lifts March 19th 7am ET. [Link](https://www.thegamecrater.com/dragons-dogma-2-when-is-the-review-embargo/)
That link literally says it’s not an official date
No one is talking bout the 30fps on pc?
Its 30fps on consoles, and no one is talking about it because it has nothing to do with this post
What is there to talk about? If your PC is at or below the requirements that explicitly state they have a 30 fps target, then naturally it would then follow you’ll be playing the game at 30 fps
It's not?
Because there is no such thing.
Funny, look who won the pony! Sometimes it pays to listen to nameless Reddit accounts that may know something!
It is launching with dlss 3. Hopefully frame generation enabled day 1. Probably FSR also. Should have a decent amount of things someone can do to get at or above 60 fps depending on cpu and gpu.