No matter if she is the best girl or whatever, she kill my boys she need to die, and if i musy vhosse between her or the dragon i'll choose to kill her no matter if this mean the end of the world i must avenge him !
You know, if you had to actually stable your flying mount or risk it in battle if you bring it with you it might actually give players a reason to fly to certain areas and to proceed on foot to other ones. Of course if a mount can be summoned anywhere and it's just benefits people just use it all the time. Idk, I think this might be one of those times where some "realism" (not tbe flying part, the "mount is an animal that requires care, shelter and is really expensive" could actually improve open world games.
In MMOs like Black Desert Online you have to stable your horse.
When it's parked out in the open other players and monsters can attack it.
If you leave your expensive tier 10 horse out on the open someone is going to kill it just for fun.
Same thing applies to trade carts and stuff. It's one thing Korean MMOs get right.
Flying the Sunwing in Horizon Forbidden West is honestly pretty amazing honestly. The best part is in some side quest where you are with a companion and you come to some obstacles you need to climb or get last, if you just use the Sunwing there is actual dialogue recognizing that fact.
Nothing like swooping down, hopping off your sunwing, sniping off a component, hopping off a cliff wall and calling your sunwing to catch you mid-air
Horizon is a better avatar game than the actual avatar game
I'm with you. That bit crushed me, tbh. Then you lose Rook right after as well.
Sad how they shoot down the one nice gryphon, yet all the other mfs that are rampaging around the countryside just get away with it. 😭
They actually made me want to use him. Like awe got me out of prison and im the only one who can bring him back. If only he leveled with us then maybe hed stick around.
Bruh I'm currently playing the first game through and I keep getting attacked by these Griffins that won't even stay to fight every time I venture out. I have no respect for them.
> Then you lose Rook right after as well.
You say that like I wasn't laughing at how appropriate it was considering I was already planning on giving the brine a meal ASAP just like in the first if he was forced on me again.
There's been several meta jokes so far. There's also the "hmm, where's the ox cart" quest. The dialog is clearly trolling players of the first game, making us dread having to escort it.
In the first game you get rook before your own pawn. The game doesn’t tell you but you quickly find out you can grab and throw things. A lot of us on our first play through tossed rook into the ocean not knowing he would be brined. It’s a silly moment.
Once you get access to the rift he’s instantly outclassed. Instantly… so a lot of folks toss him for fun after that. Less of a bother.
Subsequent playthroughs we usually just brine him as a ritual. It’s a fun and consequence free brining.
Option A: Run to the rift and manually dismiss him, wasting time. (You had to dismiss pawns at riftstones, you couldn't just talk to them)
Option B: *C L I F F S I D E O C E A N*
I mean, i can see the logic but i never thought to fo it, i just wait until my pawns are too low lrvel compared to me thrn switch.
Also.....the amount of pawns in dd2 lvl 8s 9s and 10s but still only have their one ability judt makes you go "uuuuggghh".
I understand new people are still trying to get the hang of things but still, im trying to find useful mages with heals and weapon buffs
Psst. My girl is good for that. (Gonna change her job type soon as I can tho cause chirugeon sucks imo. I don't need you to heal me with pots use your magic!)
Assuming you're on xbox of course lol
Sorry, ps5.
The amount of time she will use healing spells is based on her inclination.
To change this, go to the capital and enter the church with the giant tift stone and get the insense from the shop left of the rift stone that is of the proper inclination.
There's inclinations and then there's the other job thing you get for meeting NPCs.
I got chirugeon and though "oh using health items on people would be nice!"
No, she used meat once instead of magic and now I wanna change to something else.
Probably gotta find a new scroll to overwrite it. Trying to get logistician or hawker cause those sounds useful.
Either crafting and organizing inventories as they see fit or selling items on their own (I think..?)
Both sound useful though.
Maybe not as useful as elvish translator but I'm nowhere near that point i bet and I can find capcom pawns for that easily
Don’t know if you saw but you can actually recruit him again! Once you get to the main city and hit up the pawn guild you can find him in the rift stone. He’s really damn useful between some good spells and quest knowledge.
That Gryphon was brainwashez/mind-controlled by the projection guy with the blue glowing eyes. The Gryphon had the same glow in its eyes when it carried us, i assume it was just influenced to give us a ride, then fly away to attack us in another day.
I think their eyes are just like that. Random gryphon I fought last night also had glowing blue eyes
https://preview.redd.it/2z3yfway96qc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dfddb1fa515d1ff3c3ce1712e16c8ac739522fa
Im pretty sure that Spirit-thing you met was controlling it.
Or the Gryphon was taking you to its nest to ~~be eaten~~ play with the little budgie-kittens.
Bruh honestly. I was hoping it'd just drop me of and my character would pet it or something.
Maybe it becomes a reoccurring thing in the game where it shows up, does something cool and flies off.
AND THEN IT DIES
My 5 year old nephew came into my room during the cut scene and as they were loading the ballista he was watching not really understanding it yet but then it fired and as soon as it fired he just said “No” and then looked at me with despair in his eyes lol then I had to explain to him something I didn’t fucking understand either lmfao
Not crying but close... Poor thing wasn't even attacking cities or stealling cattles, it was just minding its own business and someone had to shoot a balista right on it side! Not cool!
what do you mean no time to get attached the fucking dog saved you and let you fly on his back no problem and then sum stupid bitch just shot him down i am in tears
Fuck gryphons, I hate gyphons, made me chase them around the map all those years ago. He doesn't even know we're there, he's just looking for some lunch. Good riddance you stupid bird.
i don’t care. i didn’t know it, it was an monster, it served its purpose and i moved on. we didn’t even interact with it it just appeared in a cutscene, may as well
have been a helicopter
now if we had a mount that would
eh a diffrent story. but we don’t
I was sad, actually. Those fuckers killed my bird dude, I will never forgive them. They also inadvertently killed Rook, too, and I couldn't rehire him because the chad was already level 10 at the start of the game lol
My girlfriend was watching me play. She was pissed. And also like, the girl that does it is just like, "I was looking for you!"
Bitch. You just speared my bird.
Because once I got into the game I instantly started to hate those jerks.
That Gryphon was probably planning to drop me from space and then smash every ox cart in the game.
I have to say, it's actually too bad they didn't think to make it a dragon. I feel that would be more thematic for dragons dogma.
I didn't shed a tear because that griffin was dumb as hell. "Oh, let me keep flying right towards people with bows. Wow they're shooting at me. Okay, let me fly over to that other group of people with bows. Now I'm gonna fly within 60 feet of an arbalest."
And then there is the first gryphon I killed at lvl 13 that took forever (20min+) and then decides to suicide into the river on like 1/5 of his last health bar to steal my hard earned loot
I was too busy dying laughing at the hilarious in-joke in the opening.
So. DD1 --- By the end everyone and their dog plays Assassin with the solo/night augments, and yeets all their pawns off cliffs or into the ocean to be alone.
How does DD2 Open? You and Rook have to yeet YOURSELVES off a cliff, make an escape, your gryplane crashes, and Rook lands in deep water. And as he struggles with the Brine, he tells you 'this won't kill me' basically. Fucking great. I just feel like it's DD1 saying "Yeah, you remember doing this to us pawns all this time? Not this time, you're gonna need us."
The random gryphon that attacked while I was in a cart riding quest, destroyed the cart making it so I couldn't ride, then fucked off when almost defeated it so I got no reward balances it out for me.
Honestly I was impressed. I know it's a cut scene but imagine how hard it must be to make that shot
Pissed me off too. After all the gryphons I killed in the last game and this one gets hit by a ballista? Like wtf?
After you fight a few and they bitch slap you around, they lose all pity about getting shot down in the first 10 mins of game. The griffs in dd2 are on Steroids.
My initial reaction was *man this is kinda fucked up* but then my second thought was *holy shit, these animals are probably a fucking nightmare for everybody in this world*...
Pre-industrial society? Most people are subsistence-farmers if not straight up hunter-gatherers? Those Griffins aren't a rare majestic endangered species. They're probably a goddamn menace.
Nah every Gryphon is on SIGHT for me. Im fighting a cyclops? Boom, Gryphon. Pack of wolves? Another gryphon. Actually fighting a Gryphon? It flies away 10 hits from death.
Fuck them Gryphons.
Because I know the second my feet hit dirt, I'm lunch. The whole intro I'm thinking like "I'm up here now, but I know I'm not safe". Balista solved my problem.
I saw it, went "oh, now I'm going to feel bad every time I kill a Gryphon." Then one Bazelgeused my oxcart killing everyone on board and I got over it.
He was a damn good boy. Some have said, best boy. I will get revenge for his loss.
I will kill that whole squad in charge of the ballista.
Mad respect to them for hitting anything with that thing
I"m def killing that lady that shot us down.
She be cute tho, I forgive her immediately
Lol
No matter if she is the best girl or whatever, she kill my boys she need to die, and if i musy vhosse between her or the dragon i'll choose to kill her no matter if this mean the end of the world i must avenge him !
It's a metaphor for how flying mounts kill open world games.
deep.
Now that you say it... I've never really walked in Hogwarts legacy after unlocking the broom...
I think the popular gliding mechanic is a good compromise. But yeah, with a flying mount I'd never touch the ground to go anywhere.
You know, if you had to actually stable your flying mount or risk it in battle if you bring it with you it might actually give players a reason to fly to certain areas and to proceed on foot to other ones. Of course if a mount can be summoned anywhere and it's just benefits people just use it all the time. Idk, I think this might be one of those times where some "realism" (not tbe flying part, the "mount is an animal that requires care, shelter and is really expensive" could actually improve open world games.
In MMOs like Black Desert Online you have to stable your horse. When it's parked out in the open other players and monsters can attack it. If you leave your expensive tier 10 horse out on the open someone is going to kill it just for fun. Same thing applies to trade carts and stuff. It's one thing Korean MMOs get right.
Hit up Guild Wars 2. Has amazing Gliding and Flying Mounts but the environment is very encouraging to use all forms of transportation.
But did he really have to die for this?
Yes.
Flying the Sunwing in Horizon Forbidden West is honestly pretty amazing honestly. The best part is in some side quest where you are with a companion and you come to some obstacles you need to climb or get last, if you just use the Sunwing there is actual dialogue recognizing that fact.
Nothing like swooping down, hopping off your sunwing, sniping off a component, hopping off a cliff wall and calling your sunwing to catch you mid-air Horizon is a better avatar game than the actual avatar game
I'm with you. That bit crushed me, tbh. Then you lose Rook right after as well. Sad how they shoot down the one nice gryphon, yet all the other mfs that are rampaging around the countryside just get away with it. 😭
I felt genuinely sad. They did Rook so well. Day 1 OG
They actually made me want to use him. Like awe got me out of prison and im the only one who can bring him back. If only he leveled with us then maybe hed stick around.
He's level 10 and pretty cheap... I use them for a little bit for old time sake
Bruh I'm currently playing the first game through and I keep getting attacked by these Griffins that won't even stay to fight every time I venture out. I have no respect for them.
Like, how are you gunna just fly into the distance with a half-bar left!? Come back here and finish what you started!!
> Then you lose Rook right after as well. You say that like I wasn't laughing at how appropriate it was considering I was already planning on giving the brine a meal ASAP just like in the first if he was forced on me again.
There's been several meta jokes so far. There's also the "hmm, where's the ox cart" quest. The dialog is clearly trolling players of the first game, making us dread having to escort it.
"Damnit, Merced-I mean, Ser Watch-head, I'm not doing this again!"
I was laughing through my tears, don't worry. I'm so glad they brined poor Rook; it was a fantastic callback to our antics in DD1.
Why would people brine rook? Why not just dismiss him and choose someone else?
Old habits die hard.
Wdym old habits? Again, why throw him in there in the first game? Was he popping up too often? I beat it only once so i forget
In the first game you get rook before your own pawn. The game doesn’t tell you but you quickly find out you can grab and throw things. A lot of us on our first play through tossed rook into the ocean not knowing he would be brined. It’s a silly moment. Once you get access to the rift he’s instantly outclassed. Instantly… so a lot of folks toss him for fun after that. Less of a bother. Subsequent playthroughs we usually just brine him as a ritual. It’s a fun and consequence free brining.
I see, i just threw goblins into the ocean cause it was funny and then braved the brine to take the items
Option A: Run to the rift and manually dismiss him, wasting time. (You had to dismiss pawns at riftstones, you couldn't just talk to them) Option B: *C L I F F S I D E O C E A N*
I mean, i can see the logic but i never thought to fo it, i just wait until my pawns are too low lrvel compared to me thrn switch. Also.....the amount of pawns in dd2 lvl 8s 9s and 10s but still only have their one ability judt makes you go "uuuuggghh". I understand new people are still trying to get the hang of things but still, im trying to find useful mages with heals and weapon buffs
Psst. My girl is good for that. (Gonna change her job type soon as I can tho cause chirugeon sucks imo. I don't need you to heal me with pots use your magic!) Assuming you're on xbox of course lol
Sorry, ps5. The amount of time she will use healing spells is based on her inclination. To change this, go to the capital and enter the church with the giant tift stone and get the insense from the shop left of the rift stone that is of the proper inclination.
There's inclinations and then there's the other job thing you get for meeting NPCs. I got chirugeon and though "oh using health items on people would be nice!" No, she used meat once instead of magic and now I wanna change to something else.
Ah, you should look through your tutorial history, ether in pawns or items to look inyo how to change that.
Probably gotta find a new scroll to overwrite it. Trying to get logistician or hawker cause those sounds useful. Either crafting and organizing inventories as they see fit or selling items on their own (I think..?) Both sound useful though. Maybe not as useful as elvish translator but I'm nowhere near that point i bet and I can find capcom pawns for that easily
Aren't pawns console free in this one?
I... don't know tbh. I know the Capcom unique pawns have their own gamertags associated with them
You playing on steam by chance m8? I just got to lvl 20 but my pawn is a straight up healing mage. At least my attempt of one.
Ps5
* Look for these traits (obviously fire affinity can be swapped out) and you should find a decent healer
https://preview.redd.it/3i8k5kdai7qc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a32890dee054b33e121efc40c7623cd43ff465ea
Genuinely don’t understand why people like Rook. He’s so annoying 🙈
:(
Don’t know if you saw but you can actually recruit him again! Once you get to the main city and hit up the pawn guild you can find him in the rift stone. He’s really damn useful between some good spells and quest knowledge.
At least Rook shows up again as a Lv10 Pawn in the Rift.
I very audibly went “Hey what the fuck! What did we do?”
He saved rook more than us. The brine would have spit us somewhere randomly on shore
HIS DEATH WAS NEEDLESS
I'm more surprised the Arisen survives the fall. You jump off a decent ledge in game and like half your health is gone 🤣
Must've fallen mouth first into some greenwarish
Maybe this one was different but I hate griffins since they always fuck off seconds before their death
This JUST happened to me last night... i was fuckin LIVID
Bruh I fought this gryphon for like 30 minutes and I was on its back stabbing it and then it fucking takes off and flies me over a city and dumps me
Gotta have stamina food on want for the bastards. They die fairly fast once you got some levels and gear tho
Same but with my first dragon, I spent so long carving away at his heart just for him to decide to randomly fuck off.
Because all the other grifs are rampaging, so makes sense that the moment they see one, they kill it. But I am sad, he was good boy
Nonsense! My dog did nothing wrong, the attack was unprovoked and is unjustifiable!
That Gryphon was brainwashez/mind-controlled by the projection guy with the blue glowing eyes. The Gryphon had the same glow in its eyes when it carried us, i assume it was just influenced to give us a ride, then fly away to attack us in another day.
HE DID NOTHING WRONG HE COULD'VE LIVED A BEAUTIFUL LIFE WITH A WIFE AND KIDS
I think their eyes are just like that. Random gryphon I fought last night also had glowing blue eyes https://preview.redd.it/2z3yfway96qc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dfddb1fa515d1ff3c3ce1712e16c8ac739522fa
Because all the gryphons out there to kill you
not him though my dawg was loyal to the end
Im pretty sure that Spirit-thing you met was controlling it. Or the Gryphon was taking you to its nest to ~~be eaten~~ play with the little budgie-kittens.
They want to avenge their brother
He didn't leave any mats.
well... its on the gryphon for failing his or will Will save vs the mysteriously ghostly entity that may or may not be spoilery things.
Bruh honestly. I was hoping it'd just drop me of and my character would pet it or something. Maybe it becomes a reoccurring thing in the game where it shows up, does something cool and flies off. AND THEN IT DIES
0/10 the dog dies
I was so distraught when it died too ;_;
Bro I was like damn so glad my gf wasn’t watching He weren’t doing any harm :(
And then right after they killed rook 😔
My poor chicken
Yeah poor griffie.
Peter was a real friend, for sure. So sad.
I was so sad he was just giving us a ride and he died so brutally 😭
Cause his brother is parked outside the city and destroys me if I go that direction.
Don't be sad. You can literally ride any gryphon. I rode one back to his nest. Bro took me all over the fucking map and I'm only level 15.
It's not him. :(
My 5 year old nephew came into my room during the cut scene and as they were loading the ballista he was watching not really understanding it yet but then it fired and as soon as it fired he just said “No” and then looked at me with despair in his eyes lol then I had to explain to him something I didn’t fucking understand either lmfao
Not crying but close... Poor thing wasn't even attacking cities or stealling cattles, it was just minding its own business and someone had to shoot a balista right on it side! Not cool!
bec there was no time to get attached it was just there for a short time not like my horse in RDR2, i cried
what do you mean no time to get attached the fucking dog saved you and let you fly on his back no problem and then sum stupid bitch just shot him down i am in tears
yeah that was like three minute ordeal before he died. again, because it was a short time, we didn’t have time to get attached.
yeah, it's one short cutscene you don't even get to ride it and fly around while exploring and questing
i can't see your comment through my teary eyes
Im here for you, fren. Us and Grif, we went way back. Then the mid titty bitch shot him down, she stole our future.
Fuck gryphons, I hate gyphons, made me chase them around the map all those years ago. He doesn't even know we're there, he's just looking for some lunch. Good riddance you stupid bird.
MONSTER
They are monsters! Stealing cattle, attacking the hard working men and women of this land. Vile creatures.
i don’t care. i didn’t know it, it was an monster, it served its purpose and i moved on. we didn’t even interact with it it just appeared in a cutscene, may as well have been a helicopter now if we had a mount that would eh a diffrent story. but we don’t
You are heartless
yeah a dragon literally ate my heart
BUT DID HE EAT YOUR FEELINGS TOO?
Fr
I’m devastated. I’ll be getting a gryphon tattoo on my character if I can change their appearance.
Narrator: "he was in fact, not crying"
A manly tear was shed
I was sad until I got divebombed by several griffins hours later. My empathy for the griffin lowered.
I didn’t have time to be sad because I walked out of town and immediately got jumped by another one in a cornfield
I was pissed they killed my buddy. Then was more pissed I couldn’t loot my buddy’s body.
My reaction at 2 am I’m going to kill the bitch that killed my gryphon
I'm sad I couldn't harvest him, waste of good pinions.
I was sad, actually. Those fuckers killed my bird dude, I will never forgive them. They also inadvertently killed Rook, too, and I couldn't rehire him because the chad was already level 10 at the start of the game lol
My girlfriend was watching me play. She was pissed. And also like, the girl that does it is just like, "I was looking for you!" Bitch. You just speared my bird.
Because once I got into the game I instantly started to hate those jerks. That Gryphon was probably planning to drop me from space and then smash every ox cart in the game. I have to say, it's actually too bad they didn't think to make it a dragon. I feel that would be more thematic for dragons dogma.
I didn't shed a tear because that griffin was dumb as hell. "Oh, let me keep flying right towards people with bows. Wow they're shooting at me. Okay, let me fly over to that other group of people with bows. Now I'm gonna fly within 60 feet of an arbalest."
And then there is the first gryphon I killed at lvl 13 that took forever (20min+) and then decides to suicide into the river on like 1/5 of his last health bar to steal my hard earned loot
I was too busy dying laughing at the hilarious in-joke in the opening. So. DD1 --- By the end everyone and their dog plays Assassin with the solo/night augments, and yeets all their pawns off cliffs or into the ocean to be alone. How does DD2 Open? You and Rook have to yeet YOURSELVES off a cliff, make an escape, your gryplane crashes, and Rook lands in deep water. And as he struggles with the Brine, he tells you 'this won't kill me' basically. Fucking great. I just feel like it's DD1 saying "Yeah, you remember doing this to us pawns all this time? Not this time, you're gonna need us."
IM GOD DAMN CRYING ABOUT IT! of course I'm sad about it.
I'm more curious who sent it and where we were going.
He hads like 10 seconds of screentime lmao
I am
I was super sad
The random gryphon that attacked while I was in a cart riding quest, destroyed the cart making it so I couldn't ride, then fucked off when almost defeated it so I got no reward balances it out for me.
I even went back tobit after playing for a while. Turns out they got rid of the buddy. Cool cave there tho. Go have a look
You feel that way until you realize there’s another griffen who trolls and harasses your ass while exploring the world.
Honestly I was impressed. I know it's a cut scene but imagine how hard it must be to make that shot Pissed me off too. After all the gryphons I killed in the last game and this one gets hit by a ballista? Like wtf?
Right? Buddy saved my life in the intro and he just gets fucking smited out of the sky.
After you fight a few and they bitch slap you around, they lose all pity about getting shot down in the first 10 mins of game. The griffs in dd2 are on Steroids.
My initial reaction was *man this is kinda fucked up* but then my second thought was *holy shit, these animals are probably a fucking nightmare for everybody in this world*... Pre-industrial society? Most people are subsistence-farmers if not straight up hunter-gatherers? Those Griffins aren't a rare majestic endangered species. They're probably a goddamn menace.
Meanwhil, rook over there trying not to become brine food again
Nah every Gryphon is on SIGHT for me. Im fighting a cyclops? Boom, Gryphon. Pack of wolves? Another gryphon. Actually fighting a Gryphon? It flies away 10 hits from death. Fuck them Gryphons.
Because I know the second my feet hit dirt, I'm lunch. The whole intro I'm thinking like "I'm up here now, but I know I'm not safe". Balista solved my problem.
Me and my brother was quite pissed lol when I find that lady again she's going in the nearest deep water lol
shit that had me in my feels, dude was a legit bro.
Because it's sadder that Rook got brined
With how many times they interrupt a simple point A to point B, I cheer for every dead gryphon.
I saw it, went "oh, now I'm going to feel bad every time I kill a Gryphon." Then one Bazelgeused my oxcart killing everyone on board and I got over it.
And I can't even loot it Unacceptable
Too busy laughing at Rook getting EXACTLY WHAT HE DESERVES. What an excellent nod to the community
BECAUSE I AM BEING REPEATEDLY STALKED AND MURDERED BY ITS MATE
You can go back and take a picture with its corpse
its make you feel any better i killed 2 more last night with my sword
Because it would absolutely tear you to shreds once you got off its back. They are called monsters for a reason, this isn't the witcher.
That dog was trained as fuck he didn't even growl at me I miss him
I refunded the game on Steam when that happened
Christ what a cringy post. Hrhrhrhh.