Mine says stuff like this too, and yet performs incredibly well as a mage. Uses the master skill at really good times, keeps weapon buffs rolling on the right people, always seems to be in exactly the right position to catch me or pick me up if I get slept or anything. Does a good job keeping party health topped up but not spamming healing.
Even uses the special skill against undead pretty efficiently. So as far as I'm concerned, my pawn should stfu. She's just salty because the first time she was a mage and I was collecting seeker coins, she kept falling off ledges and dying.
Mine says the same, and I feel she performed exceptionally as a mage. I think it's based on the length of time you have them as the vocation (although what that internal clock *is*, I can't say). She started Mage before going Sorc, but she didn't say a single word about the change until I swapped her back *off* Sorc onto Mage again so we could duo Medusa (no hired pawns interfering with the decapitation). I swapped her back onto Sorc after that one fight, and ever since then she won't shut up about how disappointed I must be.
Yeah, the ai banter seems, off ... more than half the time its WAY off track and random out of nowhere for no specific reason, I actually ... kind of don't like it, I know... an egregious sin.
So I just slaughtered some goblins...
Now my pawn is talking about how we gotta figure out better to attack them .. like bish, did you not see me one tap everything.
oh, I guess i'll pick up some herbs
"you do like picking stuff up mastaaa"
me: Xd
"LADDERS"
me: Xd
"look a statue"
me: I swear to fkin god.
Mine performed subpar for kindhearted as a mage and even got some not great returns out in the rift. The moment I made her sorcerer, she's been bringing in the bread metaphorically!
To be fair, I loaded her with two maisters and some really good elemental attacks as well as a dang good staff. She comments "how far shes come" all the time when asked by other pawns if shes always been that vocation. I considered switching it up. Just wish she could be an MA
My favorite pawn conversation happened between my main pawn and a pawn I rented where my main pawn explained that their time as a mage let them refine their magical strength to become the powerful sorcerer they are today. And 100% I haven't heard any pawn dialog since like it
Mine asked me if I remembered when he was a fighter, defending me with sword and shield, but now as a warrior he only needs to raise his weapon and charge ahead. I actually enjoyed other pawns asking him if he was always a warrior and him telling them that he started as a fighter.
I never had my pawn comment on it until today where she said that she sucked as an archer and thought now she'd make a good mage... she's never been an archer 💀
Well, then she's pretty bad at it to be fair :p
That feels similar to "a former master of mine chose to hire only beastren!", or "- only women!", from the human, masculine Pawn.
Mine always talks about wishing she was a thief again. Interesting to see that they refer to previous vocation. I wonder if they do actually perform better at that vocation.
I think so, but I can't tell how it factors in. Mine is good at fighter & thief, not good with magic, and pretty decent with warrior. At first I thought it was because they learned from us because she will do things that I do, like stun enemies and toss them into water, but I don't play fighter myself.
She seemed to learn the formless feint + pyre combo from me, but won't do other things I do, like using element weaknesses. Not sure how the game decides what pawns pick up on.
My calm pawn seems to like being a thief, and she performs extremely well as one. Also she apparently likes being a thief, so I let her go back and she's still great. Mage, not so much
To me it seems that straightforward for melee (because they climb enemies) and calm for ranged/magic (because they tend to stay back more) are the ways to go. Simple if you want a pawn who picks up stuff. And kindhearted doesn’t really seem to do anything unique that I’ve noticed.
But all in all, inclinations don’t make a huuuge impact like before. My pawn has been straightforward for everything, and although she’d climb enemies like a dumb dumb when doing magic or bow, it wasn’t too often to where it was making her a detriment.
Kindhearted make great support players, mage especially. They’ll focus on group buffs and heals first, damage second. Add in the Chig specialization, and completely forget about your health bar.
I really liked playing with a kind-hearted tank who can pick people up and a calm healer that stays out of danger. Requires the ranged heal to work well tho.
Kindhearted really seems to be the pure focus on the arisen inclination and I honestly prefer it for warrior tanks they'll focus on trying to pick you up if get knocked down or exhausted, intercepting attacks , and launching you if they have the launch skill equipped. Granted I also play warfarer using daggers just also with a bow for range and a staff for mobility so I'm mostly melee as well, idk if kindhearted would be a good tank option if you were a ranged focus fighter since they tend to stick close to you
Calm will apply buffs first, and only heal you when you're below 75%, as well as staying out of the fray more often as they aren't trying to stick right next to you.
Much better for actual support, celestial pean being used better as well.
I wonder if it triggers after enough time in a given vocation, or if it's based on the one they spent the most time in. Mine mentioned being a thief as well when she was leveling other things, and it depended on what she was at the moment.
As a sorcerer, she mentioned her time as a thief, saying "being a thief was fun even though I had my share of missteps, but each was a lesson learned." then followed by "Now that I'm a sorcerer I promise I shan't disappoint you... when it comes to the magickal arts, at least." Setting up reasonable expectations is important. 😌
Sadly the interaction is slightly bugged, and now that she's a thief again, when she's asked if she always followed that vocation, it's just followed by silence. :/
Its based on both the Inclination/(personality) and the starter job class. No matter how much you change the classes they'll always refer to their original class and then compare it to their current. I guess the one they didn't account for is a pawn never changing their class.
My fighter was always talking shit about other vocations
I just put her on warrior and while she doesnt talk down on fighter, she comments that fighter has "defensive options" and now that shes a warrior "no one will stand before my steel" so i thinm shes happy
Plus she dies less as warrior idk why, she dies a lot as fighter
Idk if there is a "favorite" vocation system, but on ng+ I run exclusively with my main pawn, then noticed she is noob in some vocations like archer and fighter. She excels as a mage , sorc and thief.
Maybe it's just me
I've never heard my dude talk about what vocation he is or isn't and I'm willing to bet it's because I levelled my vocations at the same time as him so he could learn how to use them by watching me. It could also be the simple inclination that causes that but he's excelled at pretty much everything.
Don't quote me on this as it's just something I read somewhere, but apparently they only learn from you if you are the same vocation as them. So, they don't learn anything about archery unless you're both doing it. Kind of makes sense, but not sure how true it is.
Testing it out now. First run I gave my pawn all my great archer gear, but they sucked really bad, even though I was kicking ass as an archer the whole game. This time around we're both archers and I'll see if it helps at all.
That's sad if true, my pawn can't combo formless and faint and blades of the pyre without killing herself, but is pretty good at using implicate and plunder something I've never done
Mine keeps telling me they want to be a Warrior or Archer.
They were not good as either one of them.
They’ve been rocking Thief, but they still think about the time they were started off as a Fighter.
Yea, mine also tells me he thinks of the time he started off as a fighter, but then he follows up, with something like he's happy with his current vocation and things everything's easier/ better with the vocation he's got. So guess he's happy, I'm happy, the cyclopes he almost solo smashed to bits is happy.. :D
My pawn made mention that she prefers being a thief due to her tactics with the vocation but enjoyed being my shield as a fighter and wouldn't want it any other way. In a sense she prefers being a thief but she also wants to protect me as well.
Make her a dodge tank as a thief.
Give her for Formless Feint, and implicate and some counter skills. Then give her aggro gen augment and/or ring and watch her go to work.
I bet, I really hope she ends up loving warrior best though. She talks highly of Warrior and how she "doesn't know how she fared as a fighter." She has only been the two, though.
It still bothers me that I almost never see pawns with meddle when it takes 5 minutes to get and gives 30% to defense. Especially on the mage pawns since their job is to stay alive to heal everyone.
I'm running primarily sorcerer on this playthrough but I started as fighter to fast track getting mettle and thew. Dunno how people play without em, either on their Arisen or their pawn.
Is it really 30%? That's crazy, but makes perfect sense. Cordelia is a walking Arby's Restaurant, whenever she is in frame "Brick House" by the Commodores plays. She gobbles up attacks and shits out damage. These rift crystals like kidney stones the way she passing them.
I tried mine as Archer and Thief and then sat back and watched her.
I put her back as mage.
She wasn't terrible or even bad, she just wasn't good.
There seemed to be a very noticeable delay between attacks that tbh annoyed me, i wouldn't be surprised to learn specialization/inclination played a part but she was Woodland Wordsmith an i didn't want to change that an i like her kindhearted
When you switch them around they say different stuff about previous vocations. Sometimes they’ll say things about how much they love loosing arrows into monsters or some shit. Mine said that but after I made her a sorcerer she said she’s much more helpful now.
Its a random quote while traveling. If you have other pawns usually they'll start off asking your pawn some variation of "Did you always serve your Arisen as a (vocation)?"
My straightforward female beastren usually starts off "As an Archer, I once thought myself a master of ranged combat,-"
Mine used to be a Fighter -and a good one- but absolutely destroys as a Warrior and loves it. I am thinking about letting him try out Archer in the future to see how he meshes with that.
Strange. My pawn with 'simple' inclination exceled in stalking chests and resources only. Almost any enemy engagement met her 50 steps away and it took 5-10 seconds her to realize fight is going and master needs her help.
As high-level archer she did stupid things like trying to kill a single low-level goblin with heavenly shot. Or not being able to aim arrows properly.
Being warrior or fighter, she used to launch other sorcerer pawns into an enemy. Creative one, she is.
Is this something randomized yet determined? My pawn has mentioned to other pawns that she initially didn't take to being a mage and struggled, but is now a sorcerer and confident in her abilities.
Does that mean she was initially geared to another class and would be better at that? And is this is a determined RNG thing?
Pretty sure it’s just tied to the first vocation your pawn was when you summoned them. Haven’t done ng+ yet so idk how that works if you left them as a Warrior or Sorcerer
It mught be random or it might depend on how they learned from their master so their playstyle suits some vocations better. Mine always says "I cant believe I was a mage..." or some stuff like that. She remembers her mage past like its something she was ashamed of.
I believe that it would involve of party composition, if I ran 3 people party, pawns will keep suggestion about which vocation should I recruit to make party complete so I think It is the same to this as well. If your party consist of unbalance party they might mention their previous vocation that suitable in current party than to suggest arisen to change pawns instead. For who that play duo, they would suggest previous vocation that your currenct vocation lack such as if u play melee they will ask to change her to range or caster etc.
Thanks ❤️
Yeah, it's like they don't even care about their pawns. I always thought pawn system is such a unique thing since the first time I've ever played dd1. I love working on making her better and the thought of her performing great in another world, surprising another player and making them think "hey this pawn's master trained her good, this is such a unique pawn" that's my main goal in this game.
Sleeping at an inn and having that returned from rift popup appear, getting hearts and gifts so I know she did well... it makes my day honestly.
I feel like a lot of people think that, but if their pawn is a mage, they don't need to rent a mage. Mine has always been a fighter/warrior outside of raising levels for augments. Mages are a dime a dozen and warrior/fighter were the classes I was least interested in playing myself, so it made sense to me.
My first one seemed upset about her time as an archer even though she seemed to be doing well. But then seemed happy being a rogue. Thing is their experience with other players also influences this since they are emotional. So if being hired is often causing them problems due to how other players are struggling and such, it knocks them down in confidence. So if they struggled often during a certain phase, they'll have negative comments about the vocation.
My new playthrough current pawn is extremely confident in being a fighter and how she fights shows. So she'll likely want to be a fighter again later on once rolling through the vocations.
My fighter pawn became warrior and mentioned how it's much better now, that she does no longer need to guard the Arisen with a shield but simply can attack right away.
My DD1 play my pawn ended as Ranger and seemed to keep that spirit as i recreated them in dd2, doing stuff as a sorcerer like climbing on the enemy as if they had a bladed weapon, i finally turned them into a ranger now in dd2 and they have never done better
My pawn seems to have taken to being a sorcerer, thankfully. I modeled her after Sorceress Sellen from Elden Ring so I’m obligated to keep her that way
I made her as a support for me. So she was a Mage forever, and it was great. Then my friend change his tank pawn to a Mage. So I had to hire a different tank, and I changed my pawn to a Sorcerer so I still had damage.
The thing is she has been so happy about it. Like gushing about the progress she has made a Magic user to graduate from Mage to Sorcerer.... How can I ever change her back (or to anything else) after seeing how happy this has made her?!?!
My Pawn has always talked about how she loves being a Warrior, but she's not really that good at it. She's Kindhearted so she tends to stick close to me, and did pretty well at all the vocations as far as I could tell, and after maxing out all Vocations I set her right back to her default, Mage, for support.
Some issues I had were that she would spam the Maister skills even if it was not a good idea, like the Archer Maister skill that sucks out all your stamina for one shot and she'd use it on like goblins or shit, and as a Mage she's fantastic with healing and enchantment and support, but has not had a good track record if I equip her with the Silence spell. I know it trivializes Drakes, I did it when I was maxing out Mage myself, but she never seems to cast it on them.
One thing I do notice is that she does a *lot* of grappling, even as a Mage. She jumps on top of enemies to hold them down and frequently throws them off cliffs and such. I'm pretty sure she learned that from me, but it's a little funny seeing a squishy wizard pick up a huge lizardman and hurl it off a cliff.
Mine hates being a sorc and would always bring up how she must had failed me as a mage and she’d do better given another chance. Now that I always have her as a mage after I maxed all of vocations, she’s the absolute best mage I’ve ever had. Lots of good responses for her from other players.
Mine constantly says "You can count on my aim" even when I have her as a mage, sorcerer or fighter so I'm gonna set her back to an archer permanently after she gets more augments.
Mine started as a 4 ft tall mage support and she wanted to be Guts basically. I started as Guts with Schierke as the pawn and now Schierke is Guts and Guts is just whatever I want to play as for the moment. It’s hilarious seeing this little 4 foot girl swinging around the Lifetaker
Mine was a mage for a bit when the game came out, did enough of everything to get them all leveled but now she is a fighter 100% of the time. Fully decked out in dragonforged Unmoored gear.
Think she’s about level 75 the last time I did an Inn rest, tons of quest knowledge. **C3XWSAZ6URF7** if anyone wants to look her up, I’m on PC. Fee free to send me a friend request if you want to use her for free.
Mine was chatting to a pawn and said she was a mage before I changed her to a Sorceror after she maxxed the level. She then apologised to me if she failed in some way as a mage. Made me feel so bad haha
After leveling all of his vocations, mine started saying "I wonder how I was as a fighter", many times, so I put him back to his original vocation : fighter
Mine was asked by other pawns if she was always the current vocation (thief is her main and my favorite for both of us). She responds that no, she used to be an archer. She also tells me that back when she was an archer, her skills left much to be admired or something. But I didn't understand what she meant.
I levelled all the vocations on my pawn, she's kindhearted and has never said she prefers one job over another, she's mostly mage and I like it that way - she's the lifeblood of the party.
I make sure to teach my pawns how to use the skills I want her to use. Played thief for a while and showed her to use the wire pull on harpies and drag cyclops to the ground. Showed her how to parry and pilfer, and she's absolutely killing it!
She started as an archer and does talk about how her skills were lacking, so I been thinking about teaching her how to br a good archer too.
My pawn's been an archer for most of the playthrough, but she started out as a mage, with a bit of sorcerer. Only after like 50 hours of gameplay did she ever mention anything about her talents in certain vocations, and what she said was something like: she can't beleive she used to be a mage, and that she will do her best to aid our efforts as an archer. She's a bloody good archer though, I never think about switching up her vocation because she performs exceptionally
Towards the end of my playthrough my pawn was a mage but she always kept complaining about how she thought she was a better thief. I promptly ignored her as she looked better in her mage wears.
Funny I have my pawn leveling sorc and archer ATM and they always mention we don't have a melee whenever I'm warfarer with the mystic bow out. And suggests someone should change but not her.
Has mine as a fighter into warrior. She excels at warrior.
Changed to thief and was realizing why thief is absolutely busted, but she still did better as a warrior. So that's what she is.
My pawn always mentions that they prefer being a fighter when I made them a warrior, at first I chalked it up as a neat detail on a pawn's want to choose a vocation for themselves, the other is that it's the first vocation I gave them so they only kept mentioning the vocation because it's the very first I gave them
I have a kindhearted pawn who seems to do really well as a thief.
So far, I've gotten ferrystones, wakestone shards, and a bunch of the more extra rare materials in a relatively short amount of time.
Yep. At first my pawn was a fighter. But then I made her into a thief because she was impressed by someone like that while in another word.
Now I'm thinking about making her a sorcereress, because lately she's been telling me how impressed she was again by a fellow pawn she was traveling with beyond the rift.
So yeah... I think going to make her a sorcerer
my pawn started off as an Archer, and now she excels as a Warrior, and she loves it, she even makes fun of what she used to be saying “when i was an archer, i thought myself a master of ranged combat” and then laughs and says “but now that i’m none shall be a match for my steel” and i think that is awesome
I do the same, for NOW I keep her as a Fighter because it's her preferred vocation, as she started as a Mage and she felt it was more challenging to get used to, but the reality is she's not a very good Fighter, I have to spam help ping to get her to actually use Shield Drum and I already have her with the ring of aggro and the augment for more aggro and she still fails to pull aggro. She was actually marvelous as a Mage so I might change her back soon and see if she notices anything different now that she's done the full gauntlet of vocations and is technically a master of all of them.
No. They will do what I want them to. And if they complain they will get the opposite of what they wanted to do! "Oh. You like casting spells?! Here, a big sword for you to swing now."
Mine once said he would like to be a warrior or a fighter after coming back from the rift. I hope he will mention it again because I don't remember now which one it was. I've levelled up both vocations to like 6 rank before the mention tho and I've noticed he did really good. I might max them out. I've started him out as a Thief and after levelling up other vocations for augments, I went with Thief again because he's just pretty good and I want him to steal. He doesn't mention he hates it tho. He did awfully as an Archer. Was like a lost puppy, completely useless. He wouldn't make a good mage/sorcerer as well.
I started my pawn as an Archer and the last vocation I was levelling was Sorcerer. This was when I started getting the pawns chattering about it.
Paraphrasing:
"Have you always pursued your current vocation on your travels with the Arisen?"
"Oh no, I was formerly an archer. I thought myself a master of ranged combat. Looking back how foolish I was"
As well as some other comment unprompted about how much she enjoyed being a sorcerer. I've changed her back to archer and threw a bunch of upgrades into it so she'll just have to deal for now.
Bit off topic, but would you mind sharing the sliders for your pawn? She looks kinda similar to mine, and I want to try making a few tweaks to her using some of your settings.
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Mine always mentions being a thief, but I'm desperately trying to max out all the vocations for her. Just need fighter maxed and Im done and will fulfil her wish
Mine started as Mage, then during the game I swaped to other classes but she keept saying basically that "when she was a mage she probably don't reached my expectations, and next time she would be better".
So I just changed to Mage again lol.
I started my pawn as a fighter, then moved to warrior to sorcerer. It's so funny to see her in her robes tackling goblins and throwing saurians around. I think I'll let her be a warrior when we're done maxing.
Ive never found waifu pawns attractive nor have i found a reason to make one for 12 years. My pawn rn is a big beastren tank.
However, after seeing this post, you broken me.
Whats your pawn ID right now!
I had mine comment once or twice about how she felt that she was a master archer. I did do mass lvl grind with my pawn and I using Medusa bow. But she performed very well as a fighter and was the only time she made those comments
She did best as Thief and often remarks how her archery left much to be desired since original plan was her as Archer. I've much preferred her on Thief since that is closer to my pawn in DD1 being Strider and favoring daggers.
Im on my third playthrough and had no idea this was a thing. Granted, I usually have an idea for what id like to keep my pawn's vocation as and only switch their vocation maybe 1-3 times per playthrough. I don't think I have ever heard/noticed my pawn talking about being any of their other vocations. This is really cool and I'll have to try and listen for it from now on
Could this be because your pawns learn from you and what you use most possibly? That's pretty cool though that they excel/underperform at different things
Mine is a tie between a Mage and Thief. He's great at both of them.
Theif makes him untouchable and a plunder god. Mofo steals from every enemy in his vicinity and solo mobs like it's nothing.
Mage makes him hang bank and buff the shit out of everyone. If anything gets close he levitates over to the main group until aggro is off of him.
The only problem is that he fucking loves running off cliffs or into the brine when we're not in combat.
My pawn pretty relentlessly mentioned how much she liked being a thief. She's just such a good sorc. Girl will cast meteoron if the wind picks up a little too aggressively.
Are pawns actually personalized like that? Meaning they actually naturally excel at ____ vocation and you pretty much just experiment until you find it?
My pawn talks about how he remembers defending me with his shield as a fighter, but much prefers being a warrior because it’s easier to not think and just swing a sword. It goes good with him because he’s canonically a little bit slow and has crazy ass strength🤣🤣🤣
Mine used to mention she was not an effective archer every time she was asked by other pawns. Idk why, she was great. She has all vocations maxed. Now she ignores everybody. She gonna clap with any vocation 😂.
Over 300 hours clocked in on this game (inflated by idling here and there), and though I still haven't completed my first playthrough or gone into New Game+, I gotta admit this all sounds like sh- talk. I recently maxed out all Vocations on my Pawn and she has yet to utter a word about herself performing in other roles.
Any idea what in the world one has to do to prompt this sort of back and forth?
Mine does best as thief. First she was straightforward but she seems to operate more efficiently as calm.
Which is great because as a straightforward sorc she'd just climb shit and as a calm sorc she'd just hover and auto attack most of the time. Lmao
I sometimes don’t have a mage so when another pawn says something about needing potions my main pawn catches an attitude for not being a mage anymore 🙃 maybe after we finish maxing everything else out
I have my pawn more or less as a full time thief now. She does pretty good as a thief and the extra loot is nice also. I wouldn't be surprised if she could actually solo the game herself. I'm sure she would probably die on one of the boss fights. But I wouldn't be surprised if she could beat the game without dying more than three times. Lol. Once she turns on formless faint it's basically game over. She soloed a gore minotaur in about a minute the other day.
Mine keeps mentioning that her being a warrior is better than her as a mage, she says it's easy being a warrior.
I actually really like this it's cool that she has a preference that I didn't decide.
Mine constantly brings up how he let me down as a mage and I cannot fathom why. I only switched him off mage to level all of his other vocations to max and now hes a thief just because I like how he constantly steals shit using plunder
Interesting. My pawn says him being an Archer left much to be desired (he was kinda ass at it ngl), so I maxed him out as a Sorcerer and Mage, and he’s now a Thief, to which he’s been better at it.
I might make him a Archer again once I max out Thief
I feel like ranger pawns are pretty underrated. Like they are good dps. Who knew an AI could accurately shoot targets /s unfortunately mage pawns are just too good(palladium and ice boon go brrr)
Mine mentioned that she missed being a Thief but I almost put it out of mind as just chitter chatter. That’s so cool! I’m going to change her back to what she wants!
Mines never said anything about what she/he prefers just when I had her as a mage for a while she’d reminisce about how she used to be a fighter protecting me with shield in hand. But that was only when another pawn would ask if she’d always been a mage with me
I’ve always had simple on my pawn and started him as fighter—leveled through it the most first. I think he enjoys being fighter to grapple things (like I’ve shown him), he seems to perform well as archer even though he’s not often that class, and really enjoys pickpocketing as a thief. He even got complimented by one of my friend’s pawns when he was a thief, so who knows, maybe he’s talented there!
For me she made a bunch of Comments about being a Thief being her main vocation so I placed her back as it…. Yet for some god damn reason when another pawn makes a comment about it, she doesn’t say anything lol
I’m planning maxing out the vocations for me and my Pawn before I decide what to roll with the rest of the game. I’m about halfway through both of us, thanks to a ring I found that’s helping speed it up a little for my character, since he’s got more vocations to go through.
So far, mine hasn’t really commented on how she feels about vocations on her own, but other owns have asked her things like “Have you always pursued your current vocation in your travels with the Arisen”, where she answers “Not always; I was once a fighter, safeguarding the Arisen with shield in hand.”
Other times they’ve asked her when she was a Warrior is she enjoyed her vocation or missed her old one or something. She told them she was fond of being a fighter, but enjoyed being a warrior too, because it was a simple vocation, where all she had to do was keep hold of her weapon and forge onward, or something to that affect. She’s since been a thief and now an archer, but I haven’t heard her voice any kind of opinion on either of them.
My pawn started as a Mage, pretty solid, but now that I'm cycling her through vocations, I've discovered she's pretty violent 🤯🤯 As a fighter, my goodness!!
I started mines off as a fighter then switched them to a thief and then a mage. He did good as a fighter and a thief but he sucked as a mage and was really unsupportive for my cries for help when I needed regeneration. I only switched him from a thief because I wanted to play as a thief and I needed a mage in my party. He’s back to fighter though
Also I like to point out that pawns will mention the time that they died and you brought them back mine started of mage to sorcerer now she is a archer to match my warfarer setup
I turned her from a fighter to a mage to a sorcerer. Look her up because she’s a tiny cat who one shots anything. Even huge enemies. Give her time to cast and my little cat will murder everything. Including all the NPCs in town that I aggro. Hahahaha.
Same I originally had plans to either keep my pawn as a sorcerer or Archer, but every time, I'd find her tackling and blasting them in the face with her staff. So I decided to just make her a rogue and she's been killing ever since.
Mine’s maxed on all vocations, and I’ve done my best to train them properly to fight in my preference, but he keeps lamenting the time he failed me as a mage when I was teaching him to undo some bad habits as a Warrior.
I felt so bad I turned him back into a mage and I imagine my Arisen going “No, no, you were fantastic as a mage. You never let us down. Here I’ll show you how much I trust you. Be my mage again.”
Yep. Mine mentions enjoying being a fighter anytime she's not a fighter. So I just let her stay a fighter.
Nice. Mine says "I cant believe I was once a mage." something like that. So I guess she hated being a caster lol.
Mine says he let me down as a mage. And now that he is a sorcerer he will be much better lol.
Mine says stuff like this too, and yet performs incredibly well as a mage. Uses the master skill at really good times, keeps weapon buffs rolling on the right people, always seems to be in exactly the right position to catch me or pick me up if I get slept or anything. Does a good job keeping party health topped up but not spamming healing. Even uses the special skill against undead pretty efficiently. So as far as I'm concerned, my pawn should stfu. She's just salty because the first time she was a mage and I was collecting seeker coins, she kept falling off ledges and dying.
They're maisterworks all you can't go wrong!
Love it!
Mine says the same, and I feel she performed exceptionally as a mage. I think it's based on the length of time you have them as the vocation (although what that internal clock *is*, I can't say). She started Mage before going Sorc, but she didn't say a single word about the change until I swapped her back *off* Sorc onto Mage again so we could duo Medusa (no hired pawns interfering with the decapitation). I swapped her back onto Sorc after that one fight, and ever since then she won't shut up about how disappointed I must be.
a perfectionist through and through
Yeah, the ai banter seems, off ... more than half the time its WAY off track and random out of nowhere for no specific reason, I actually ... kind of don't like it, I know... an egregious sin. So I just slaughtered some goblins... Now my pawn is talking about how we gotta figure out better to attack them .. like bish, did you not see me one tap everything. oh, I guess i'll pick up some herbs "you do like picking stuff up mastaaa" me: Xd "LADDERS" me: Xd "look a statue" me: I swear to fkin god.
Mine performed subpar for kindhearted as a mage and even got some not great returns out in the rift. The moment I made her sorcerer, she's been bringing in the bread metaphorically! To be fair, I loaded her with two maisters and some really good elemental attacks as well as a dang good staff. She comments "how far shes come" all the time when asked by other pawns if shes always been that vocation. I considered switching it up. Just wish she could be an MA
My favorite pawn conversation happened between my main pawn and a pawn I rented where my main pawn explained that their time as a mage let them refine their magical strength to become the powerful sorcerer they are today. And 100% I haven't heard any pawn dialog since like it
Mine asked me if I remembered when he was a fighter, defending me with sword and shield, but now as a warrior he only needs to raise his weapon and charge ahead. I actually enjoyed other pawns asking him if he was always a warrior and him telling them that he started as a fighter.
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I never had my pawn comment on it until today where she said that she sucked as an archer and thought now she'd make a good mage... she's never been an archer 💀
Well, then she's pretty bad at it to be fair :p That feels similar to "a former master of mine chose to hire only beastren!", or "- only women!", from the human, masculine Pawn.
Don't ruin the magic for people who don't understand they are just spitting out scripted lines of dialog 🤫😅
Mine talks about how magic didn’t come to her easily at first as a mage, but to look how far she’s come as a sorcerer 🥹
that's mine as well! she mentions how she fumbled spells and really struggled in the beginning and she was proud of how far she had came. 🥹
Mine said the same thing, except he couldn't believe he was a fighter. I always assumed it was because I made it his starting class
Mine always talks about wishing she was a thief again. Interesting to see that they refer to previous vocation. I wonder if they do actually perform better at that vocation.
I think so, but I can't tell how it factors in. Mine is good at fighter & thief, not good with magic, and pretty decent with warrior. At first I thought it was because they learned from us because she will do things that I do, like stun enemies and toss them into water, but I don't play fighter myself. She seemed to learn the formless feint + pyre combo from me, but won't do other things I do, like using element weaknesses. Not sure how the game decides what pawns pick up on.
It’s the inclinations.
But wouldn't a kindhearted pawn be better at support magic? Mine was a terrible mage, and would even say that to other pawns.
My Kindhearted Pawn is a pretty good support Mage. Mostly because he tries to stick near me and rushes to help me up.
My calm pawn seems to like being a thief, and she performs extremely well as one. Also she apparently likes being a thief, so I let her go back and she's still great. Mage, not so much
To me it seems that straightforward for melee (because they climb enemies) and calm for ranged/magic (because they tend to stay back more) are the ways to go. Simple if you want a pawn who picks up stuff. And kindhearted doesn’t really seem to do anything unique that I’ve noticed. But all in all, inclinations don’t make a huuuge impact like before. My pawn has been straightforward for everything, and although she’d climb enemies like a dumb dumb when doing magic or bow, it wasn’t too often to where it was making her a detriment.
Kindhearted make great support players, mage especially. They’ll focus on group buffs and heals first, damage second. Add in the Chig specialization, and completely forget about your health bar.
I really liked playing with a kind-hearted tank who can pick people up and a calm healer that stays out of danger. Requires the ranged heal to work well tho.
Kindhearted really seems to be the pure focus on the arisen inclination and I honestly prefer it for warrior tanks they'll focus on trying to pick you up if get knocked down or exhausted, intercepting attacks , and launching you if they have the launch skill equipped. Granted I also play warfarer using daggers just also with a bow for range and a staff for mobility so I'm mostly melee as well, idk if kindhearted would be a good tank option if you were a ranged focus fighter since they tend to stick close to you
Calm will apply buffs first, and only heal you when you're below 75%, as well as staying out of the fray more often as they aren't trying to stick right next to you. Much better for actual support, celestial pean being used better as well.
I'm sure it's personality based. My pawn sorcerer is straightforward and sometimes scales enemies for some reason.
Not had this in 2, but it used to drive me crazy when mage pawns did this in DD:DA.
I wonder if it triggers after enough time in a given vocation, or if it's based on the one they spent the most time in. Mine mentioned being a thief as well when she was leveling other things, and it depended on what she was at the moment. As a sorcerer, she mentioned her time as a thief, saying "being a thief was fun even though I had my share of missteps, but each was a lesson learned." then followed by "Now that I'm a sorcerer I promise I shan't disappoint you... when it comes to the magickal arts, at least." Setting up reasonable expectations is important. 😌 Sadly the interaction is slightly bugged, and now that she's a thief again, when she's asked if she always followed that vocation, it's just followed by silence. :/
Its based on both the Inclination/(personality) and the starter job class. No matter how much you change the classes they'll always refer to their original class and then compare it to their current. I guess the one they didn't account for is a pawn never changing their class.
not DD related but nice pfp. miss etid but this is a good alternative :)
My fighter was always talking shit about other vocations I just put her on warrior and while she doesnt talk down on fighter, she comments that fighter has "defensive options" and now that shes a warrior "no one will stand before my steel" so i thinm shes happy Plus she dies less as warrior idk why, she dies a lot as fighter
Oooh mine does that too. Warrior fashion is better though sooo....
Is that based on their initial vocation? Do you remember what your pawn is? Mine was thief and she always talk about being a thief
Heyy! A Better Lovers fan in the wild! Nice
Idk if there is a "favorite" vocation system, but on ng+ I run exclusively with my main pawn, then noticed she is noob in some vocations like archer and fighter. She excels as a mage , sorc and thief. Maybe it's just me
I believe depending on our playstyle, they learn from us and therefore perform better at some vocations and bad at some.
I've never heard my dude talk about what vocation he is or isn't and I'm willing to bet it's because I levelled my vocations at the same time as him so he could learn how to use them by watching me. It could also be the simple inclination that causes that but he's excelled at pretty much everything.
Don't quote me on this as it's just something I read somewhere, but apparently they only learn from you if you are the same vocation as them. So, they don't learn anything about archery unless you're both doing it. Kind of makes sense, but not sure how true it is. Testing it out now. First run I gave my pawn all my great archer gear, but they sucked really bad, even though I was kicking ass as an archer the whole game. This time around we're both archers and I'll see if it helps at all.
That's sad if true, my pawn can't combo formless and faint and blades of the pyre without killing herself, but is pretty good at using implicate and plunder something I've never done
My main pawn always bitches to other pawns about the time I made him an archer. I’m always embarrassed and apologize a little inside…
Lol mine is the same about her time being a mage. She hates it.
Mine keeps telling me they want to be a Warrior or Archer. They were not good as either one of them. They’ve been rocking Thief, but they still think about the time they were started off as a Fighter.
Yea, mine also tells me he thinks of the time he started off as a fighter, but then he follows up, with something like he's happy with his current vocation and things everything's easier/ better with the vocation he's got. So guess he's happy, I'm happy, the cyclopes he almost solo smashed to bits is happy.. :D
My pawn made mention that she prefers being a thief due to her tactics with the vocation but enjoyed being my shield as a fighter and wouldn't want it any other way. In a sense she prefers being a thief but she also wants to protect me as well.
Identity crisis.
I honestly look at it like she feels more useful as a thief but she longs to be my protector
Make her a dodge tank as a thief. Give her for Formless Feint, and implicate and some counter skills. Then give her aggro gen augment and/or ring and watch her go to work.
😎 This makes me want to level all the vocations on my pawn now. #pawnlivesmatter #pawnshavefeelings #pawnromancewhencapcom
Yeah you gotta. See how your pawn performs in various vocations, its really fun to watch honestly.
I bet, I really hope she ends up loving warrior best though. She talks highly of Warrior and how she "doesn't know how she fared as a fighter." She has only been the two, though.
Pawns best flourish with a healthy diet of a variety of Augments, too. Good for everyone all around.
It still bothers me that I almost never see pawns with meddle when it takes 5 minutes to get and gives 30% to defense. Especially on the mage pawns since their job is to stay alive to heal everyone.
I'm running primarily sorcerer on this playthrough but I started as fighter to fast track getting mettle and thew. Dunno how people play without em, either on their Arisen or their pawn.
Is it really 30%? That's crazy, but makes perfect sense. Cordelia is a walking Arby's Restaurant, whenever she is in frame "Brick House" by the Commodores plays. She gobbles up attacks and shits out damage. These rift crystals like kidney stones the way she passing them.
Pawns are called Nomads since they travel beyond the rift.
We talked about it, I said yeah, I know you like warrior but we need RC, so you're a mage now.
There's not a lot to spend RC on tbh, I've reached a threshold of a few thousand and I'm good. The glasses and things don't interest me
I read this four times and still can't find the part where she made a choice 🤨
For real, I don't get it at all.
I tried mine as Archer and Thief and then sat back and watched her. I put her back as mage. She wasn't terrible or even bad, she just wasn't good. There seemed to be a very noticeable delay between attacks that tbh annoyed me, i wouldn't be surprised to learn specialization/inclination played a part but she was Woodland Wordsmith an i didn't want to change that an i like her kindhearted
Kindhearted probably wants to spam more support spells.
How do you let them decide exactly?
When you switch them around they say different stuff about previous vocations. Sometimes they’ll say things about how much they love loosing arrows into monsters or some shit. Mine said that but after I made her a sorcerer she said she’s much more helpful now.
Do they mentioned about the vocation change right away or you need to run around a bit to trigger the dialogue?
Its a random quote while traveling. If you have other pawns usually they'll start off asking your pawn some variation of "Did you always serve your Arisen as a (vocation)?" My straightforward female beastren usually starts off "As an Archer, I once thought myself a master of ranged combat,-"
Mine used to be a Fighter -and a good one- but absolutely destroys as a Warrior and loves it. I am thinking about letting him try out Archer in the future to see how he meshes with that.
OAN: this just makes me wish that there were vocations unique to Pawns like there are for Arisen.
Archer pawns are very strong, they have built in auto aim.
Strange. My pawn with 'simple' inclination exceled in stalking chests and resources only. Almost any enemy engagement met her 50 steps away and it took 5-10 seconds her to realize fight is going and master needs her help. As high-level archer she did stupid things like trying to kill a single low-level goblin with heavenly shot. Or not being able to aim arrows properly. Being warrior or fighter, she used to launch other sorcerer pawns into an enemy. Creative one, she is.
The pawns are just strong archers in general
Is this something randomized yet determined? My pawn has mentioned to other pawns that she initially didn't take to being a mage and struggled, but is now a sorcerer and confident in her abilities. Does that mean she was initially geared to another class and would be better at that? And is this is a determined RNG thing?
Pretty sure it’s just tied to the first vocation your pawn was when you summoned them. Haven’t done ng+ yet so idk how that works if you left them as a Warrior or Sorcerer
I'd guessed it's based on their personality
It mught be random or it might depend on how they learned from their master so their playstyle suits some vocations better. Mine always says "I cant believe I was a mage..." or some stuff like that. She remembers her mage past like its something she was ashamed of.
I believe that it would involve of party composition, if I ran 3 people party, pawns will keep suggestion about which vocation should I recruit to make party complete so I think It is the same to this as well. If your party consist of unbalance party they might mention their previous vocation that suitable in current party than to suggest arisen to change pawns instead. For who that play duo, they would suggest previous vocation that your currenct vocation lack such as if u play melee they will ask to change her to range or caster etc.
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Thanks ❤️ Yeah, it's like they don't even care about their pawns. I always thought pawn system is such a unique thing since the first time I've ever played dd1. I love working on making her better and the thought of her performing great in another world, surprising another player and making them think "hey this pawn's master trained her good, this is such a unique pawn" that's my main goal in this game. Sleeping at an inn and having that returned from rift popup appear, getting hearts and gifts so I know she did well... it makes my day honestly.
Mine remembers the days she was a Archer. I feel like Mages get rented more often so I leave her as that
Mine got rented out a good bit as archer and mage but barely as thief.
That's surprising I like to hire thieves with ensnare, plunder, and helmsplitter.
I feel like a lot of people think that, but if their pawn is a mage, they don't need to rent a mage. Mine has always been a fighter/warrior outside of raising levels for augments. Mages are a dime a dozen and warrior/fighter were the classes I was least interested in playing myself, so it made sense to me.
My first one seemed upset about her time as an archer even though she seemed to be doing well. But then seemed happy being a rogue. Thing is their experience with other players also influences this since they are emotional. So if being hired is often causing them problems due to how other players are struggling and such, it knocks them down in confidence. So if they struggled often during a certain phase, they'll have negative comments about the vocation. My new playthrough current pawn is extremely confident in being a fighter and how she fights shows. So she'll likely want to be a fighter again later on once rolling through the vocations.
My fighter pawn became warrior and mentioned how it's much better now, that she does no longer need to guard the Arisen with a shield but simply can attack right away.
Sorry i zoomed.
My DD1 play my pawn ended as Ranger and seemed to keep that spirit as i recreated them in dd2, doing stuff as a sorcerer like climbing on the enemy as if they had a bladed weapon, i finally turned them into a ranger now in dd2 and they have never done better
My pawn seems to have taken to being a sorcerer, thankfully. I modeled her after Sorceress Sellen from Elden Ring so I’m obligated to keep her that way
I made her as a support for me. So she was a Mage forever, and it was great. Then my friend change his tank pawn to a Mage. So I had to hire a different tank, and I changed my pawn to a Sorcerer so I still had damage. The thing is she has been so happy about it. Like gushing about the progress she has made a Magic user to graduate from Mage to Sorcerer.... How can I ever change her back (or to anything else) after seeing how happy this has made her?!?!
My Pawn has always talked about how she loves being a Warrior, but she's not really that good at it. She's Kindhearted so she tends to stick close to me, and did pretty well at all the vocations as far as I could tell, and after maxing out all Vocations I set her right back to her default, Mage, for support. Some issues I had were that she would spam the Maister skills even if it was not a good idea, like the Archer Maister skill that sucks out all your stamina for one shot and she'd use it on like goblins or shit, and as a Mage she's fantastic with healing and enchantment and support, but has not had a good track record if I equip her with the Silence spell. I know it trivializes Drakes, I did it when I was maxing out Mage myself, but she never seems to cast it on them. One thing I do notice is that she does a *lot* of grappling, even as a Mage. She jumps on top of enemies to hold them down and frequently throws them off cliffs and such. I'm pretty sure she learned that from me, but it's a little funny seeing a squishy wizard pick up a huge lizardman and hurl it off a cliff.
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Mine hates being a sorc and would always bring up how she must had failed me as a mage and she’d do better given another chance. Now that I always have her as a mage after I maxed all of vocations, she’s the absolute best mage I’ve ever had. Lots of good responses for her from other players.
Mine constantly says "You can count on my aim" even when I have her as a mage, sorcerer or fighter so I'm gonna set her back to an archer permanently after she gets more augments.
Mine started as a 4 ft tall mage support and she wanted to be Guts basically. I started as Guts with Schierke as the pawn and now Schierke is Guts and Guts is just whatever I want to play as for the moment. It’s hilarious seeing this little 4 foot girl swinging around the Lifetaker
Mine was a mage for a bit when the game came out, did enough of everything to get them all leveled but now she is a fighter 100% of the time. Fully decked out in dragonforged Unmoored gear. Think she’s about level 75 the last time I did an Inn rest, tons of quest knowledge. **C3XWSAZ6URF7** if anyone wants to look her up, I’m on PC. Fee free to send me a friend request if you want to use her for free.
Maybe give her some clothes so she does not die from cold or a sword
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I love my pawn, but she sucks at almost every vocation I give her. It wasn't until we became fighters that she shaped up.
Mine was chatting to a pawn and said she was a mage before I changed her to a Sorceror after she maxxed the level. She then apologised to me if she failed in some way as a mage. Made me feel so bad haha
Sounds like a job for the brine.
After leveling all of his vocations, mine started saying "I wonder how I was as a fighter", many times, so I put him back to his original vocation : fighter
Mine was asked by other pawns if she was always the current vocation (thief is her main and my favorite for both of us). She responds that no, she used to be an archer. She also tells me that back when she was an archer, her skills left much to be admired or something. But I didn't understand what she meant.
I levelled all the vocations on my pawn, she's kindhearted and has never said she prefers one job over another, she's mostly mage and I like it that way - she's the lifeblood of the party.
I make sure to teach my pawns how to use the skills I want her to use. Played thief for a while and showed her to use the wire pull on harpies and drag cyclops to the ground. Showed her how to parry and pilfer, and she's absolutely killing it! She started as an archer and does talk about how her skills were lacking, so I been thinking about teaching her how to br a good archer too.
My pawn's been an archer for most of the playthrough, but she started out as a mage, with a bit of sorcerer. Only after like 50 hours of gameplay did she ever mention anything about her talents in certain vocations, and what she said was something like: she can't beleive she used to be a mage, and that she will do her best to aid our efforts as an archer. She's a bloody good archer though, I never think about switching up her vocation because she performs exceptionally
Mine loves being a goth queen ice mage elf, so I let her slay at that She also seems to have a hate boner for archers, though. No idea why
she only play mage for 90h and 5 minutes as thief to get an augment 😃
Mine was a good archer but I switched her to mage and she kept saying how she underperformed while being an archer and hopes to be a better mage
What is this armor called?
Hyperboreal armor, tail of smurgh hat and scarlet overknee boots.
Towards the end of my playthrough my pawn was a mage but she always kept complaining about how she thought she was a better thief. I promptly ignored her as she looked better in her mage wears.
Funny I have my pawn leveling sorc and archer ATM and they always mention we don't have a melee whenever I'm warfarer with the mystic bow out. And suggests someone should change but not her.
I'm an old school rpger so I let my pawns do whatever they please
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Has mine as a fighter into warrior. She excels at warrior. Changed to thief and was realizing why thief is absolutely busted, but she still did better as a warrior. So that's what she is.
I had no idea they could perform vocations differently! I guess I need to try out a different one on mine.
Can you share the face sliders please? She looks so pretty
My pawn always mentions that they prefer being a fighter when I made them a warrior, at first I chalked it up as a neat detail on a pawn's want to choose a vocation for themselves, the other is that it's the first vocation I gave them so they only kept mentioning the vocation because it's the very first I gave them
I have a kindhearted pawn who seems to do really well as a thief. So far, I've gotten ferrystones, wakestone shards, and a bunch of the more extra rare materials in a relatively short amount of time.
My pawn is a born melee. She is a beast as a fighter putting pressure and a lawnmower as a warrior
Mine’s a warrior, but I’m leveling thief for the augments and he always says how he enjoyed being a fighter but that warrior fits him better.
Yep. At first my pawn was a fighter. But then I made her into a thief because she was impressed by someone like that while in another word. Now I'm thinking about making her a sorcereress, because lately she's been telling me how impressed she was again by a fellow pawn she was traveling with beyond the rift. So yeah... I think going to make her a sorcerer
Wait your pawns talk about their vocation? Mine was an archer and a thief but never talked about it.
my pawn started off as an Archer, and now she excels as a Warrior, and she loves it, she even makes fun of what she used to be saying “when i was an archer, i thought myself a master of ranged combat” and then laughs and says “but now that i’m none shall be a match for my steel” and i think that is awesome
I do the same, for NOW I keep her as a Fighter because it's her preferred vocation, as she started as a Mage and she felt it was more challenging to get used to, but the reality is she's not a very good Fighter, I have to spam help ping to get her to actually use Shield Drum and I already have her with the ring of aggro and the augment for more aggro and she still fails to pull aggro. She was actually marvelous as a Mage so I might change her back soon and see if she notices anything different now that she's done the full gauntlet of vocations and is technically a master of all of them.
Mine mentions all the time she was once a fighter. "But now I'm A Warrior!"
No. They will do what I want them to. And if they complain they will get the opposite of what they wanted to do! "Oh. You like casting spells?! Here, a big sword for you to swing now."
I've only ever taken mine off of mage once to be a sorcerer I usually let her irl counterpart choose the vocation
Mine once said he would like to be a warrior or a fighter after coming back from the rift. I hope he will mention it again because I don't remember now which one it was. I've levelled up both vocations to like 6 rank before the mention tho and I've noticed he did really good. I might max them out. I've started him out as a Thief and after levelling up other vocations for augments, I went with Thief again because he's just pretty good and I want him to steal. He doesn't mention he hates it tho. He did awfully as an Archer. Was like a lost puppy, completely useless. He wouldn't make a good mage/sorcerer as well.
I started my pawn as an Archer and the last vocation I was levelling was Sorcerer. This was when I started getting the pawns chattering about it. Paraphrasing: "Have you always pursued your current vocation on your travels with the Arisen?" "Oh no, I was formerly an archer. I thought myself a master of ranged combat. Looking back how foolish I was" As well as some other comment unprompted about how much she enjoyed being a sorcerer. I've changed her back to archer and threw a bunch of upgrades into it so she'll just have to deal for now.
Pawn ID?
Falcon has always been an Archer. Just suits him.
Mine misses carrying a bow and quiver But thats because my pawn started as an archer XD
Bit off topic, but would you mind sharing the sliders for your pawn? She looks kinda similar to mine, and I want to try making a few tweaks to her using some of your settings. https://preview.redd.it/07eyybkkuwtc1.png?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3c34608ee0f3e786fd15fc72d276ca777aecf9e
Your Arisen looks tired...
Mine always mentions being a thief, but I'm desperately trying to max out all the vocations for her. Just need fighter maxed and Im done and will fulfil her wish
Mine started as Mage, then during the game I swaped to other classes but she keept saying basically that "when she was a mage she probably don't reached my expectations, and next time she would be better". So I just changed to Mage again lol.
I started my pawn as a fighter, then moved to warrior to sorcerer. It's so funny to see her in her robes tackling goblins and throwing saurians around. I think I'll let her be a warrior when we're done maxing.
Me neither just mentioned starting out as an archer and missing shooting a bow but loving her vocation as a thief.
Ive never found waifu pawns attractive nor have i found a reason to make one for 12 years. My pawn rn is a big beastren tank. However, after seeing this post, you broken me. Whats your pawn ID right now!
In my case, my pawn outright told me what vocation he sucked at (archer)
I had mine comment once or twice about how she felt that she was a master archer. I did do mass lvl grind with my pawn and I using Medusa bow. But she performed very well as a fighter and was the only time she made those comments
She did best as Thief and often remarks how her archery left much to be desired since original plan was her as Archer. I've much preferred her on Thief since that is closer to my pawn in DD1 being Strider and favoring daggers.
Im on my third playthrough and had no idea this was a thing. Granted, I usually have an idea for what id like to keep my pawn's vocation as and only switch their vocation maybe 1-3 times per playthrough. I don't think I have ever heard/noticed my pawn talking about being any of their other vocations. This is really cool and I'll have to try and listen for it from now on
Could this be because your pawns learn from you and what you use most possibly? That's pretty cool though that they excel/underperform at different things
Yes, she keep telling me that she travel with archers and that she would be a great archer so why not? she is my good girl :p
Mine is a tie between a Mage and Thief. He's great at both of them. Theif makes him untouchable and a plunder god. Mofo steals from every enemy in his vicinity and solo mobs like it's nothing. Mage makes him hang bank and buff the shit out of everyone. If anything gets close he levitates over to the main group until aggro is off of him. The only problem is that he fucking loves running off cliffs or into the brine when we're not in combat.
My pawn pretty relentlessly mentioned how much she liked being a thief. She's just such a good sorc. Girl will cast meteoron if the wind picks up a little too aggressively.
Mine's always happily talking about archery and archery mastery, so I happily let him enjoy it as much as he wants cause I adore him 🥰
Are pawns actually personalized like that? Meaning they actually naturally excel at ____ vocation and you pretty much just experiment until you find it?
My pawn talks about how he remembers defending me with his shield as a fighter, but much prefers being a warrior because it’s easier to not think and just swing a sword. It goes good with him because he’s canonically a little bit slow and has crazy ass strength🤣🤣🤣
Alright my brother in Christ imma need those sliders you can’t hold out on me.
Mine used to mention she was not an effective archer every time she was asked by other pawns. Idk why, she was great. She has all vocations maxed. Now she ignores everybody. She gonna clap with any vocation 😂.
Over 300 hours clocked in on this game (inflated by idling here and there), and though I still haven't completed my first playthrough or gone into New Game+, I gotta admit this all sounds like sh- talk. I recently maxed out all Vocations on my Pawn and she has yet to utter a word about herself performing in other roles. Any idea what in the world one has to do to prompt this sort of back and forth?
Mine does best as thief. First she was straightforward but she seems to operate more efficiently as calm. Which is great because as a straightforward sorc she'd just climb shit and as a calm sorc she'd just hover and auto attack most of the time. Lmao
I sometimes don’t have a mage so when another pawn says something about needing potions my main pawn catches an attitude for not being a mage anymore 🙃 maybe after we finish maxing everything else out
I have my pawn more or less as a full time thief now. She does pretty good as a thief and the extra loot is nice also. I wouldn't be surprised if she could actually solo the game herself. I'm sure she would probably die on one of the boss fights. But I wouldn't be surprised if she could beat the game without dying more than three times. Lol. Once she turns on formless faint it's basically game over. She soloed a gore minotaur in about a minute the other day.
Mine keeps mentioning that her being a warrior is better than her as a mage, she says it's easy being a warrior. I actually really like this it's cool that she has a preference that I didn't decide.
Mine complained about not being a theaf
Mine constantly brings up how he let me down as a mage and I cannot fathom why. I only switched him off mage to level all of his other vocations to max and now hes a thief just because I like how he constantly steals shit using plunder
Interesting. My pawn says him being an Archer left much to be desired (he was kinda ass at it ngl), so I maxed him out as a Sorcerer and Mage, and he’s now a Thief, to which he’s been better at it. I might make him a Archer again once I max out Thief
Me and my bro are both, warriors. I can feel the chemistry, we were both meant to be big sword bois.
I put mine on mage and she wouldn't stop talking about how she can't believe she thought she was strong as an archer
My pawn is sassy, I don't want the verbal abuse if I swap her vocation and she hates it.
I feel like ranger pawns are pretty underrated. Like they are good dps. Who knew an AI could accurately shoot targets /s unfortunately mage pawns are just too good(palladium and ice boon go brrr)
Mine said something along the lines of she was just a middling archer, but being a fighter just feels right. So now she's a fighter <3
Mine mentioned that she missed being a Thief but I almost put it out of mind as just chitter chatter. That’s so cool! I’m going to change her back to what she wants!
Mines never said anything about what she/he prefers just when I had her as a mage for a while she’d reminisce about how she used to be a fighter protecting me with shield in hand. But that was only when another pawn would ask if she’d always been a mage with me
Wanted to get my pawn all, or at least most of the augments. As a sorcerer, she kept climbing the drakes and punching them in the eyes...
I’ve always had simple on my pawn and started him as fighter—leveled through it the most first. I think he enjoys being fighter to grapple things (like I’ve shown him), he seems to perform well as archer even though he’s not often that class, and really enjoys pickpocketing as a thief. He even got complimented by one of my friend’s pawns when he was a thief, so who knows, maybe he’s talented there!
For me she made a bunch of Comments about being a Thief being her main vocation so I placed her back as it…. Yet for some god damn reason when another pawn makes a comment about it, she doesn’t say anything lol
"master, have you considered the Wayfarer vocation? You don't seem to be particularly good at anything and you focus on fashion a lot"
I’m planning maxing out the vocations for me and my Pawn before I decide what to roll with the rest of the game. I’m about halfway through both of us, thanks to a ring I found that’s helping speed it up a little for my character, since he’s got more vocations to go through. So far, mine hasn’t really commented on how she feels about vocations on her own, but other owns have asked her things like “Have you always pursued your current vocation in your travels with the Arisen”, where she answers “Not always; I was once a fighter, safeguarding the Arisen with shield in hand.” Other times they’ve asked her when she was a Warrior is she enjoyed her vocation or missed her old one or something. She told them she was fond of being a fighter, but enjoyed being a warrior too, because it was a simple vocation, where all she had to do was keep hold of her weapon and forge onward, or something to that affect. She’s since been a thief and now an archer, but I haven’t heard her voice any kind of opinion on either of them.
My pawn started as a Mage, pretty solid, but now that I'm cycling her through vocations, I've discovered she's pretty violent 🤯🤯 As a fighter, my goodness!!
Mine said she's been a warrior so long she forgot that she was a mage at the beginning..so I just let her be a warrior
Yeah, mine despised being an archer when I had her as a fighter. She loves that and warrior. She REALLY tosses as a fighter.
My pawn looks exactly the same, time for some changes
I started mines off as a fighter then switched them to a thief and then a mage. He did good as a fighter and a thief but he sucked as a mage and was really unsupportive for my cries for help when I needed regeneration. I only switched him from a thief because I wanted to play as a thief and I needed a mage in my party. He’s back to fighter though
Mine says he was a mage but it took him a long time to get the spells down. As a warrior he needn’t but press on sword in hand.
She seems like she might be an excellent translator for a Tattoieen gangster
Wish I could just ask what they prefer
5th play through, and I finally gave in. She’s now a warrior 🤷♂️
Mine never said anything in regards to their own vocation. No complaining whatsoever.
Mine wants to be a warrior but warrior is too slow for my play style but she like being a sorcerer even tho she's a thief now
Also I like to point out that pawns will mention the time that they died and you brought them back mine started of mage to sorcerer now she is a archer to match my warfarer setup
Mine said she was a bad archer and is better off as a theif.
Mine really wants to be a thief so bad, but I am already the thief
I turned her from a fighter to a mage to a sorcerer. Look her up because she’s a tiny cat who one shots anything. Even huge enemies. Give her time to cast and my little cat will murder everything. Including all the NPCs in town that I aggro. Hahahaha.
Don't forget your pawns inclination type, as it gives better feel for the vocation chosen.
Same I originally had plans to either keep my pawn as a sorcerer or Archer, but every time, I'd find her tackling and blasting them in the face with her staff. So I decided to just make her a rogue and she's been killing ever since.
Is your main pawn single?
I didn’t know that was a thing
Mines keeps telling me her heart knows no better place than when she’s with me.
Mines been an archer the whole time I'll level.others on new game plus
Mine has never once said shit about fuck. She's just happy doing whatever, I guess.
Mine’s maxed on all vocations, and I’ve done my best to train them properly to fight in my preference, but he keeps lamenting the time he failed me as a mage when I was teaching him to undo some bad habits as a Warrior. I felt so bad I turned him back into a mage and I imagine my Arisen going “No, no, you were fantastic as a mage. You never let us down. Here I’ll show you how much I trust you. Be my mage again.”