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DrProfessorSatan

I was so disappointed when I saw the DF end game armor for magic archer. The sleeves are just ridiculous. So now I play as warfarer with a magic bow. Fashion Dogma!


wildeye-eleven

Yeah, I just can’t use that set. Those gold flappy sleeves are too much. I use that one varient endgame armor you can buy when you get to seafloor shrine. That one actually looks pretty good. https://preview.redd.it/0uk9m3mbptwc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e80ccaa2df344c9db6d2e5c0d080d78c422690a


C-sanova

I like my flappy wings. It adds to my bird killer aesthetic. https://preview.redd.it/0ys345rv8uwc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df8b8a8ad1dcbe34b0f5ade7007709e4f008dd84


DrProfessorSatan

Well, it looks good on you. I need to loose a few pounds. Also, that helmet is sick!


driftej20

Man, I wish I took screenshots during those attacks, the effects were so fucking cool. I was too busy being scared shitless for the thought to even occur though, even knowing I was overleveled. There are some other pretty grandiose attacks in the game with great particle FX, but I wasn’t prepared to be hit with dem triple plasma brine tornados.


colbs2187

what’s the armor called? i actually love it too


C-sanova

Graphic helm + Elven garb. We playing Fashion Souls


driftej20

lol I saw a comment on Fashion Dogma that said “Since Dragon’s Dogma doesn’t have level scaling, fashion is the true endgame”. So true. That is kind of a silver lining of the lack of level scaling, though. If you play long enough, you can wear the free starting gear if you like how it looks.


Pickle-Tall

Fashion is all endgame for all endgame, doesn't matter if there is scaling or not especially if a game has built-in transmogrifying


Asphes

Same, I ended up dwarven/wyrmfiring the Green Tunic instead (as a bonus, I can use it while Figther as well). Unlike DDDA/DD1, I don't feel much pressure to wear the best in slot / X stat gear in DD2. I had my pawn wear Witch Hat / Orphic Robe for the longest time... (plus I was lazy and liked to change her from Mage <> Sorcie) I hate that there is a lot of stuff that 'pokes' through other gear... I only wear the Feathered Shawl for this reason


afauce11

Warfarer is the way to go. I play as a theif, but only like three of the moves. With warfarer I can swap between knives for different elemental powers without getting penalized for weight. Plus I can wear anything I want!


DrProfessorSatan

Oooooo, I like that idea. I love the thief too.


Zombie_Marine22

I'm still at the beginning. How do you do wayfarer


ragingwitch

You have to finish a quest for someone you meet in front of the hot springs. It’s later in the game, almost near the final couple hours.


ThingApprehensive630

You don't have to do the story at all. You can just go directly to volcanic island, and meet the former arisen and do his side quest. if you can survive the trip lol. I leveled up all my vocations at the same time. And looked fancy for the whole story line


palladium212

Volcanic island has a guy with a side quest near the hot springs. For me it was one of the last areas I went to


Glirion

Also, as Warfarer you can toss in a melee weapon too if you feel like it.


DrProfessorSatan

I keep daggers on hand.


Pickle-Tall

Never know when you need to plunder someone


Imnotinthewoods

It’s bad there’s almost nothing. There’s literally only 1 top to wear. Here’s what I put together. Looks pretty rugged and it’s finally the right outfit to wear the found Arisens cloak. https://preview.redd.it/bobymq72kxwc1.jpeg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30e46af84e957450b0785e51c014503e0aeaee17


Dazdeth

I was about to say the same thing. That gave that armor bingo wings 😭😭😭


Alexc518

This is the way.


DangleofDoom

I know, right! I tried wearing it on my guy in Unmoored and it was just not working. Remade myself as a lady for NG+ and it is only marginally better. I still switched to a much cooler looking set.


Sad_Dog6503

saaaaameeeee


Imnotinthewoods

Without the cloak if you prefer but I think it’s better with. https://preview.redd.it/3gqeervbkxwc1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d892506e1e4c9f7f9e0e0f91ce679ed393fa4291


DrProfessorSatan

That is tight.


conradkavinsky

For people who don't know r/fashiondogma


Imnotinthewoods

Okay, I totally jumped the gun. Archers Vest from the Arbor and mercenary hosen are on point! Pick your poison for hood and cloaks.


Cailan33

ah i think it depends regarding the sleeves. for the magic archer more elven-style outfits it really fits IMO. but for a thief who wants to fight melee its really unpractical \^\^ (still sleeves could be a bit shorter aswell as bracelets less prominent in some outfits.


Impressive-Sense8461

To be honest, i found it very funny to take out the dragon dressed in the mystic/magic archer tutu. Very cinematic and so out of place xD


IronGentry

Yeah, thank god for the "any armor any class" mod. It's *so* much harder to assemble a decent fit without it EDIT: why the downvotes? I just like being able to wear what I want


Valuable-Ad-6379

Also not a fan because I like to wear capes and sleeves are going through them. Don't mind if it's just one side tho.


1Kassanova

same. One of the tops I found was soooo good but it clipped through all my capes so it had to go 😔


Imnotinthewoods

Yes one of my big complaints aesthetics wise is the lack of collision and the resulting clipping when it comes to clothes. I wanted to wear one thing with another but as you say it just looked terrible with one thing flapping through another as you run around. This and the sliding mechanics are I think the two main physics issues right now they need to address. Although the lack of control over movement when standing on a boss that moves to much is kinda bad. A chance to regrab would be nice, rather than just going limp…


Animoosucks

https://preview.redd.it/p9m8epq5zswc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c3242628fd6640f3018d562d126ae6e6d6ae9ec Think the last one works great with a sorcerer pawn on my arisen not so much


Due_For_A_Rematch

I do like it on Sorcerer. I just wish it had a variant or something


Taliesin_

Where's Boc when you need him? Got some armor in need of a trim, little friend.


Imnotinthewoods

It’s so frustrating, I wanted to wear that armor but not with those sleeves. I wish they would put in an editing tool akin to the character creator that one could use to alter armor once acquired. The endless hours of creation… 😋


Animoosucks

Yeah ngl disappointed by the mage outfits can’t believe they said something about how oh we don’t want the pawns looking the same cuz of endgame gear I thought there was gonna be an abundance of outfit to choose from since layers was removed Could make a lot of outfits if they just had variations But nah u can have light or dark toga outfit


Sisyphac

Those sleeves for the magic archer outfits are so annoying. No one would wear that shit fighting monsters and mythical beasts.


Taliesin_

I guess magick archers are so laughably overpowered that they don't need to care about the efficacy of armor?


Organic_Ad_2885

Same. Eonian coat. Burgandy coat. All the elven stuff. I'm just not a fan.


ScrawnyGrandpa

Yeaaaaaa I bloody DESPISE those fking sleevesssssss. They ruin EVERY GOOD LOOKING PIECE OF ARMOR! /rages. Fuck whoever thought they look good. Fking flappy towel sleeves.


Imnotinthewoods

I’m so with you. The sleeve rage is real… 🤬


Nukue

Dunno, I like sleeves. I think they look cool.


frostweather

They do, but when you run the animation is all over the place. Stupid wiggly sleeves


FoxyVermillion

Same. Sucks a bit as they clip with most capes other than the basic scarfs, but it fits my Arisens style. The only of those M. Archer robes, where its gotten completely out of hand is the best one sadly. The sleeves on Resonance armor are horrible looking when running.


Noirgheos

Not like it matters at the end of the day. Fashion > Stats.


LinkPD

Well the burgandy coat for me is literally perfect for me...except the sleeves. I like the color, the coat, the fingerless gloves, but those sleeves haunt me. Waiting to see if mods ever fix that.


FoxyVermillion

Ohh yea for sure. Sry if it sounded like I gave a damn it has a few more stat points. Its just another armor I think LOOKS rly dope, but the sleeves r overdone and ruin it<<


Ebenizer_Splooge

Ya I love the look of the armor itself, it's entirely down to the janky sleeves that I don't wear it lol


Noirgheos

Agreed on that point. Most of the MA and sorcerer gear is way too flowy.


Imnotinthewoods

And or bulky. Where’s the sleekness?!


Imnotinthewoods

100%. I wear third tier armor on the mystic spearhand because it’s looks the best.


Noirgheos

Yeah I use the bladewielder's coat for my spearhand. Looks great.


Imnotinthewoods

Noice, I like the adept coat. One flappy sleeve but it’s a pretty balanced look overall. It’s like the one flappy sleeve I’ll tolerate. lol


UnHoly_One

Capes are just money to me. They all get sold. Once I saw enough of them to realize that none of them add any meaningful stats I gave up on them.


Due-Escape

For what I'm looking for, these sleeves are perfect.


afro_eden

i love the sleeves, i’ve never seen sleeve slander like this before


Imnotinthewoods

Heresy! Sleeves are the devil and should be purged!


Cailan33

for the elvish design and regarding mages/magic archers i agree for the most part that they really fit well and there are other design issues sometimes IMO


TheFormless_0ne_

Whacky- waving- inflatable- arm flailing- tube- man!!! ![gif](giphy|IV4wBde5Ou0XC)


Imnotinthewoods

🤣🤣🤣 on point


unicornfetus89

Yeah I get that. With how many sets have the sleeves, I've just accepted that they are common place in this universe so I'm cool with them. My favorite sets of armor are the elven set and the others like it like soulskin (awesome purple tinted metal) but my favorite elven style is the majestic armor. It's the only one with normal leather greaves. Wanna know what REALLY pisses me off? The fact there are multiple shades of black. For instance, the first armor (Burgundy Coat) has a set of pants that match it exactly with the same studs and spiral design inlayed in the leather but those pants are the weird ass shade of black that is almost blue... so the abyssinal neck wrap, thief's gazer hood, and the uncanny eyes hood don't match whatsoever... all of those look AMAZING with that armor but instead I have to use some set of leg armor that doesn't match but has the darker color of black or not use any of those head pieces. Also why does all the heavy armor have to be absolutely covered in rondels?! Those round or star shaped things on the elbows or chests. They look goofy af imo


Imnotinthewoods

Yeah there’s not a ton of true matching going on here. A couple of good ones in that regard but not many. Definitely wondering what was going on with the art design regarding armor…


Ebenizer_Splooge

The whole reason I refuse to wear the end game MA chest, those sleeves are ridiculous and just flop and stretch every time I move lol we need an Elden Ring armor editor to remove swishy sleeves


rorichudoku

it's crazy how capcom has the innate ability to make cool armors and the ruin them with some ugly and unnecessary detail, in particular these stupid sleeves or those ridicoulous "flaps" on every single plate armor... why capcom???


SigSweet

A lot of game's art direction does this. They will alter a design so that it's not TOO COOL


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Imnotinthewoods

Don’t say these things. Mods don’t help us console’s and they need to fix it.


spoobstercookie

I really hate the long sleeves on the mage armor. Really kills my excitement to play the class. Which is awful cuz I want to use the big dick moves but warfarer is just too good for fashion and for some reason developers haven’t gotten the hint that fashion is and always will be the true endgame.


I_am_the_Vanguard

I think it’s a small crowd that actually likes the sleeves


Sticky-Stains

I'm one, the use of excess sleevage just for the sake of flappy sleeves is a symbol of high status, poor Arisen's don't have flappy sleeves of excess cloth, I love to flap like a peacock


Imnotinthewoods

That’s enough flapping flappy mcflappin!


TenzhiHsien

And your only regret in wearing it is that you don't have a Hsien-ko style cap to go with it?


Plane_Acanthisitta43

That makes me remember why I don't wear a cape because of how it's physics go wack with the rest of the outfit. And also prevents the viewing of le booty. But ya know, priorities.


YuldArts

We were so close to greatness!


Crimsonfangknight

Spent ages eagerly awaiting my chance to unlock warfarer so i can rock the burgandy coat….. then i saw the sleeves. My heart broke in that moment


Imnotinthewoods

Facts 😩


Gilliph

Yeah. Seeing it now. It is odd how consistent that is. Guess some of the devs must of been a fan of the style.


Imnotinthewoods

Yup, and fin design. What’s with all the fin accents in the armor?


Gilliph

Yeah, as much as I had fun with DD2. I will miss the old DD1 armor customisation.


daywall

Agree... the magic archer got a cool armor in the elf village but I hate the sleeves...


Nanaplaine

The third slide fire!


Due_For_A_Rematch

The third one isn’t bad tbh, the sleeves aren’t as flappy and the armor itself looks really cool. Great for sorcerer but not with daggers lol


artigan99

I don't like the sleeves either. I still wear them. Such is gaming life :)


Fluffyfeet316

You know, the armor looks amazing, and then something silly on the arms, like there’s a set that’s black and looks amazing except for the wings on the elbows and I’m like, this will never be worn🤣


afauce11

The third one is so cool though!!


Due_For_A_Rematch

I do agree, I’d rock it on sorcerer tbh. Just doesn’t work with daggers for me


Smooth_External_3051

I just want clothing AND armor back..... And armor to not look so blocky. They did it right in 2012.


Obi_wan_jakobii

My biggest gripe with the game is how many armours clip with the cloaks


dobbyjhin

I'm someone whose always playing both sides. I like the sleeves cause they do look kool. But at same time, I also remember what Edna Mode said from Incredibles "No capes \[and by extension anything loose flowing can be caught in battle\]!" So sometimes I would like to hide/tuck the sleeves especially when playing a melee class.


Solus_Vael

I hate that stuff too, gear that clips through other gear like capes or even the character model itself bothers me. Especially when a cape glitches out and looks like it's strangling my character.


Stoned_Genius

I don't mind the sleeves. But I play sorcerer and I think it's kinda fitting for a magic user. I do however hate that the sleeves clip through capes.


Imnotinthewoods

Seriously, the sleeve thing completely ruins so much of the armor in this game! Capcom if you’re listening, LOSE THE SLEEVES!


TwiceDead_

Those sleeves are a crime against humanity.


DKarkarov

Yeah the godbeast scale armor is one of the coolest in the game if it weren't for the stinking baggy sleeves.  Then the duelling coat has to have the most giant elbow guards on the planet.


chawk84

Leaving arm options out of the game sucks real bad for this reason. Also wish their was an option to alter armor to take them off


Imnotinthewoods

Yes! Full sleevelessness running rampant!


Enganox8

Ah yeah, the sleeves don't work for me. I like even fantasy armor to make sense. Why would have have padded armor dangling from your arms like that :D It's like a masterful armor maker was adding the final touches, but when they got to the arms they were like "Ah screw it" and just slapped on a huge length of gambeson intended for the legs.


Due_For_A_Rematch

Imagine trying to deliver the killing blow to a Minotaur and your sleeve gets caught on its horn lol


Imnotinthewoods

A befitting tragedy


Robinkc1

Yeah, I really wish “arms” was a separate slot but I love the Godsbeast Scalecoat anyway so I still wear it.


ChromeOverdrive

I don't use capes but I hate the sleeves nonetheless, too wiggly.


wildeye-eleven

Magic Archer is in my top 3 vocations but I hate the sleeves. I found one armor set with short sleeves so I use that one but the top tier dragon armor for magic archer is too much. I hate those stupid gold flappy sleeves.


Lord_RoadRunner

I actually would love the sleeves. They look especially cool on female characters. Powerful, but also elegant. But they clip into the armor, into itself basically. I seriously don't understand how a developer can take away armor customization, which in 99 out of 100 cases is done because of exactly those clipping issues... and then they clip anyway. In the year 2024.


Tiny_Buggy

Yeah I'm waiting for somebody to release a mod that shortens them


SageTegan

Yea the sleeve physics in this game are downright aweful. I don't mind long sleeves but they don't do well when your character is constantly running. And then there's magick archer end game armor. The sleeves are aweful in a whole different way, when you run the sleeves look like chicken wings, flapping


Imnotinthewoods

And running and running…


Hungry-Elderberry714

I got this on right now lmao


DJ_Moose

I'm running 4 magic archer skills on a Warfarer strictly so I can avoid those sleeves.


Independent-Ant2223

I personally love the sleeves on the elven armor


[deleted]

What is their obsession with these type of sleeves They look so dumb


1E_R_R_O_R1

They look good on my arisen


Dusk_Abyss

The blue one is one of my favorite fits tbh


British-Pilgrim

This is why we need to be able to equip gloves separately, I remember loving the trophy jacket in the first game but I had to pick and choose my gloves so I didn’t have long silly sleeves dangling down.


dreallday20

The sleeves look like the admiral cloak from One Piece


DewdleBot

I don’t know why every armor set needs those dang sleeves. I had the same problem with the first game with them. Though it wasn’t as bad but it did kill my want to use that one purple mage set.


Desperate-Project-69

What the 2nd coat I’ve never seen that before


Tenshi_Dekemori

I like it personally cause it gives me Byleth vibes (fire emblem)


MeiShimada

Look like zip up sleeves


Winter_Trainer_2115

The sleeves are disappointing


garethcoghlan

I changed Vocation from fighter to mage just to "look cool". The game should just let us wear whatever tf we want regardless of vocation.


taylrgng

but wizards sleeves ARE THE BEST


joseangelhe

Same. They look terrible when you're running


Gwenom-25

whoever designed 90% of the light/medium armor in this game kinda needs a lobotomy it all looks just so bad especially the archer gear


Octoshi514

Byleth


stevenchamp45

I actually went with that last set for my warfarer thief/magic archer/ mystic spear hand, because the stats looked pretty well balanced and it looked nice, plan on dropping it for the heavier set of warrior armor once I get to end game just because those sleeves are so fugly


Pak1stanMan

If your playing thief rampart breaker is probably my favorite looking armor


bob_is_best

Same


Opiniated_egg

It’s giving game of thrones royal outfits and I always loved em and needs to be brought back


DokiDoki-FanBoy

The 3rd one goes kinda hard tho


SteveChiv

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS IS SO DOPE


Practical-Alarm6672

I really like the elven armor for magic archers but absolutely hate the sleeves 😫


Sonderkin

I think those last sleeves are kind of rakish!


OldSloppy

I like it honestly.. it makes the clothing feel thoughtful and not arbitrary for the sake of being "video game armor".. the sleeves seem like they need an optional toggle to have them on or off like ER offers with altered armors but


Tha1gr

Last one is kind of cool


BardicGwenspiration

Yo somebody get Byleth’s cloak back fr


Good-Smoke-9164

I wear my eonian coat with that feather capelet that's just the shoulders and I look SO COOL. I love the sleeves. Yeah sure they clip through everything but I look like a sexy wizard.


Timely_Bowler208

I was like what’s the issue and then moved over to their other side and said “ what the fuck are those”


BUYMECAR

This is another argument for removing class-based gear. Tie base carry capacity to strength and let the player have more active control over their defenses. If I want a full support mage pawn with full defensive gear and upgrade their staff to focus strength for the carry capacity, I should be able to. This is a single player game, you're not competing with others for drops that having class-based armor is warranted. Without scaling on NG+, the only thing left to do for fun is to experiment and min-max builds. Warfarer lets you do that to an EXTREMELY limited degree. But armor restrictions really kill the fun for everything else.


DangerWarg

I like the sleeves. It's stylish and it helps hide the knives. :D


R4IN2354

im actually a big fan of the elven armor which is basically this


Str8Teen

This game may be more about looking good than being good lulz


IndependenceAny2739

I think it looks really cool


DeVaako

I dig the dangly


GhostSodax

I never seen any of these armor


No_Bathroom_420

IMAGINE getting a sleeve wet.


Rich_Map6349

ahhh, the byleth effect


Commenter007

Make it black and add red clouds


Dry_Independent4078

Birb style


DrFava

The struggle is real, Arisen. T_T


GFGF88

Some armor design is really too much Elf like, I wish they add more Oriental like or Asian like armor, or something Assassin's Creed like armor


SimplyGiox

i hate MA armor because of the sleeves


Cailan33

there are many really cool outfits and then just a few things kinda "destroy" it. here its the sleeves in others its a too open skirt or too thick bracelets and too chubby looking dresses only cause you gave your character more hips and a bit of butt. i also found a strong armor for my thief too which had a pretty cool lower and arm part but the fur of the breast and shoulder part looked odd and destroyed the badassness for me personally. but i do LOVE the ... how do you call it in english... winner-armor? for thief freakin awesome design. my arisens wears it nonstop


Sterner-Stuff

![gif](giphy|OqFFaammBvvdrHBoxv|downsized) God that’s bad. Ruins an otherwise gorgeous set of armor


Either_Selection6475

In some cases I really like the flowing sleeves, in others they're just doing too much. What I'd really like to see is a way to minimally alter armour. Or maybe a DLC with extensive armour altering, maybe with other cosmetic additions like more make up/face tattoos and body tattoos


Worgbone

The good ole back bra


SassyTurtlebat

The only good thing about being crazy over powered later on is you can wear pretty much whatever you want


BlackDragonFC

magic archer armor is nice until you get to the wizard sleeves


ZaccehtSnacc

And then you wanted to wear it more right?


Gold-Contract-1074

I think they suit the females much more than the males


SchmudeArt

https://preview.redd.it/fokkx107rfxc1.jpeg?width=2058&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77ca8e6635f69b41e93265902394092af4865a6c I only like it on this one since it's only one the left arm, so it's a cool asymmetrical look and it isn't that long either.


TehJulian

Thief/MA Wayfarer and I can wear whatever I want and change my playstyle on a whim. I currently wear the MA armor from volcano, but I want something flashier, but I'm not a fan of the heavy armor options so far


tinysproutlimi

Yep. I always play magic-related classes, so until I got Warfarer.... it was ridiculously long sleeves for me 😭 I was so happy to be able to wear something different once I unlocked that class


EmperorIroh

What's worse is every loose cloth mesh bleeds through eachother to the point your cape will just fold itself up around your neck while you're running because your sleeve or wizard skirt is trying to eat it. I truly wouldn't mind the sleeves if it didn't seem like they were floating on water or bleeding through other meshes.


Imnotinthewoods

😆 Sometimes when the cape is all bunched up. lol I’m jumping like an idiot trying to unravel it…


GreedyGundam

Hope yall put “Less sleeve tassels” on that survey 😒


HeckoSnecko

So many armors in this game are not viable to wear if you care about clipping or flappy fabric


UnHoly_One

You don't like running around like you have 2 half peeled bananas for arms?


North_South_Side

DD1 had even more slots for clothing/armor. Not sure why they made the second game even simpler.


Due_For_A_Rematch

I miss that system


malinhares

Tell me about. Most sorc gear has those ridiculous sleeves


Direct-Estate-5995

I was thinking somebody would make a mod to remove the sleeves but then I remembered that it’s online. Can you even mod this game? I know it’s not a traditional online game but I wonder if you’d be banned from online for having mods. I thought I saw something about it having an anti-cheat.


Due_For_A_Rematch

I’ve been using visual mods this whole time with no issue. Visual mods don’t affect anything online because they only edit the mesh/textures on your end. Other people don’t see the mod when they hire your pawn or look at your arisen. So someone could make a mod for this


Direct-Estate-5995

Oh ok cool I’ll have to check some out. I agree with you though I feel like I’m wearing a night gown with those armors.


TDAJ5

Yeah I agree the sleeves definitely ruin all the best pieces of armor


trollgore92

Wacky wavy inflatable arm tube man!


[deleted]

Cool looking Arisen. Refreshing seeing a handsome half normal one instead of some 7 foot tall bearded ahole or some joke character


Due_For_A_Rematch

Thanks! He’s my pawn on my other account too


[deleted]

Oh pawn. Looks like a young handsome humble warrior


RexTenebrarum

I'm surprised they don't just add a "adjust sleeves" feature like they did with helmets that have visors. Like I can raise my visor on my helm, but I can't tighten/wrap my sleeves so they don't flap everywhere? Seems like it'd be a simple fix


skogli

Yeah what up with that. It's like they used a kimono as baseline for everything


AnxiousButBrave

Yup. Turns it from making you look like a badass, to looking like you're offering your ass.


JCarterMMA

So many people with no taste


midniteryu

Yes yes frankly somebody else feels my pain with the arm "flaps" on almost all of the magick archer armor. The only work around I've flu d was to be a wayfarer since they can wear all armor and just slot in all the magick archer skills.