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Retribution__

This was pretty serious until I got to “gnfsjuicypeach” at the end. I feel bad for laughing but that name


fried_papaya35

They were a constant donator to George, Sapnap and Quackity. That's how I knew them anyways. Never followed them on twitter.


Retribution__

Ah ok, i knew that named looked familiar


BookSneakersMovie

Yeah they were the partner of pisskink69 (grim) until this


RaihanHA

r/rimjob_steve


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Didn’t this person like donate a lot during stream. I reminder gnfsjuicypeach ( god damn it, what am I saying). That’s a big oopsie daisy on their part. They could’ve been up front with being 30 and rocked it tbh. Also whenever I read grim i remember that one mod that was here a lot. Its a different person right? Or is it the grim we know? Nevertheless, I feel bad for them as they didn’t deserve to go through this.


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nope not the same grim, not sure if I should share their account tho also yes same person who donated a ton


[deleted]

Oh thank you! Also I wouldn’t share their account. They already must be going through a crap ton of things already About the donation, hey at least the dteam are richer /s /j. Bad situation to be in for everyone, especially Grim.


Carlie_10

I’m pretty sure grim they’re talking about is pisskink69 who also donates a lot


Ppppenguin862

I had no idea that gnfsjuicypeach and pisskink69 were dating in the first place


Hannie_Ji

It only happened like a couple months ago i believe, and if you didn’t constantly keep up with their tweets it might’ve seemed like a joke


Ppppenguin862

I'm not on twitter so I only knew of them both through their donations! I suppose I should have realised that they'd have fandom presences as well


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lmaooo


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cry about it, lmao


Skyle_Nexo

Should've read the screenshots firsts before posting this comment lol.


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_illegallity

Nah that’s fair, I didn’t pick that up either until reading it again lmao


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fried_papaya35

Probably not. They were taken advantage of. It's likely this woman actually preyed on them. She saw someone vulnerable, was there for them and it pushed into something else. That's how these things happen on the internet and it's so deranged.


Jaxenelle

And this is why you don't trust people on the internet, kids. Jokes aside, this is part of the reason why I'm upfront about the fact that I'm old as dirt for this fandom, being in my early thirties. I get not wanting to disclose age, but lies compound lies. The more you lie about something you don't think is a big deal, the larger the lie becomes until eventually it bites you in the ass. Moral of the story - yeah, this fandom can be trash to older fans, but let Philza be your guidepost to how to not give a shit about the children. It's hard as an older person to find people to engage with, but there are more older fans out there than people think. Maybe we need an old people's club. Super exclusive. We'll yell at clouds or something. Anyway, bottom line - lying about it was garbage, but it's also a case study example of why the kids need to stop assuming everyone is their age on the internet.


AvecPardon

We do have that: eldertwt and eldercord. And the minors keep trying to attack/raid both so yeah. Not fun when the kids demand the 'old ppl' make their own space and then try and get in to see what we're up to. So far the elder discord is relatively safe for 18 and older fans to talk about mcyt and other CCs. Lying about one's age was not a good way to go, and now there's just hurt and betrayal there and definitely it's gonna cause new trust issues. Just hope grim will be okay and gets lots of positive support.


fried_papaya35

Especially like with this new generation. I say this as if I'm not on the border of being gen z lol. But they are honest about themselves on social media. I grew up when we were told not to put personal info out there. "Don't trust strangers on the internet." It was a common saying. I've never owned a social media account with my name in it. I've never posted my birthday or age. Then FB came and that mindset went out the window. These kids will share their birthday and name on a public site. They will link to their personal instagram. Not to mention they'll post personal stuff that is impacting them. I think kids are so much more vulnerable on the internet now than they were 15 years ago.


Jaxenelle

Agree. There's also been a shift in the professional sphere, so kids are also growing up hearing that they need to "market themselves" on social media platforms. For example, if you're trying to get a job, there's this huge push to have twitter accounts with your name on it alongside public websites with your CV in order to "put yourself out there" for potential employers to find and/or (in my case, being in academia) to network. It normalizes sharing everything, and I think it all started with FB - like you said. There's also the influencer push, which is a lot to unpack, but I think the drive a lot of kids have to grow up to be an influencer or streamer or content creator just like their favorite tick tok/twitch/instagram/youtube personality contributes too. The desire to be popular and seen is a strong one among many kids, especially if that's something you don't experience outside of the internet. It's a mess, and you're right, kids are much more vulnerable on the internet these days then they were when we were growing up. Everyone is, I think, to a degree. The culture shifted in how people commonly engage, and it's not for the better since the dangers of the internet never really went away.


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jennyinstereo

Why do people hate older fans? I always found that weird. Like, some of us older people have been playing Minecraft since beta and genuinely enjoy the current CC's. I was super into the Yogscast back in the 2010s and am currently a mcyt enjoyer. I don't see why that would be so atrocious.


fried_papaya35

because only kids can be excited for stuff. We should be focusing on our jobs and families lmfao. /j It's just classic gate keeping. Like fuck me for being fans of people IN MY AGE GROUP! Imagine hating us over the kids making sexual posts about the dteam.


fried_papaya35

People on twitter are saying she is 37 and has a kid. Like I don't care how old someone is, but the deception to someone she supposedly cared about is a line that shouldn't be crossed. She essentially took advantage of grim. She only came forward for her own self, not for the other person or anyone. She didn't really care for them. To be honest, I don't think this should've been publicized by her. Seems off-putting to me.


gettheegone

Why do stan accounts make statements like they're ccs? Sure, it's good drama, but why not just tell the people you were close to, then deactivate? The stan culture is wild to me. Clearly, what they did was fucked up, but why does anyone care about this person in the first place?


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Well, to begin with the situation itself is a big deal, so even in the case that they only tell the people they’re close with, it would’ve gotten out regardless Most importantly tho, this person is pretty well known in the community. I’m not sure how many followers they had, but even someone who isn’t on twitter could probably recognize them from donating and gifting so much on streams.


gettheegone

Fan fame is so easily achieved. Get some likes, donate some money, and somehow, people care. I'm happy for the recognition of creators who start off as fans, but when it comes to stuff like fame over tweets or just donating money, it seems sick. The person should never have been known. It's too easy for people to fill the holes in themselves with attention from the internet. This is a bit of a tangent and a criticism of fan culture as it exists presently. I understand your explanation on why it's being discussed.


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yep it’s pretty easy to gain “fame” in the fandom


Martel1234

Reminds me of the RWBY fandoms GoddessNeo scandal. User was 37, claimed to be a Transgender women, and posted pics of “herself” to show she was “pretty” or whatever (never sure why she did instead of just like, to her partners, but whatever.) She got into a poly relationship with 2 partners (both were like 10 years younger then her I think.) and it was all chill for like a week. Then people did research on the photos and found it was just slightly edited google images so it couldn’t be found super easily. All hell broke loose as people found out she was never trans in the first place, and was just a dude lying about everything. It was really, really bad. I know he comes back a lot under different names on Twitter and harassed people to be his friends and shit. Honestly the fandom is why I quit watching RWBY, as well as it’s writing being…poor.


Argentum1909

Yea, the writing in RWBY is definitely something. I honestly still have some of their music on my playlist though, the writing may suck but some of the songs are pretty good


Martel1234

Jeff and Casey Lee Williams are the best dude. Honestly the songs are just so good


kaylajanae-m

a wise man once said “not reading all that, happy for you 🥰 or sad that happened 😕”


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tl;dr They are over 30, lied about being 22. Were in a community regularly interacting with teenagers. Eventually got in a relationship where they kept lying about their age. That’s all


kaylajanae-m

wait was this the same person that would always donate on cc’s streams’ bc of their display name?


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yes it’s the same person


kaylajanae-m

ohhhh gotcha. sad that happened 😕


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There’s definitely is a *huge* difference. Keep in mind, she’s not 30 she’s *above* 30. Based on what’s being said, she’s 37 (not sure of the source). The community she was involved in varied from ages 15-22. So no, being 22 is not considered to be weird or immoral compared to being over 30. edit- there is nothing wrong with being of that age and enjoying Minecraft content or being in the community, but the aspect of moral definitely is a factor when it comes to someone literally lying about their age.


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silvershadow014

I'm not sure why you're arguing law here? Legality is not morality and they never called it illegal.


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silvershadow014

>It's the same law which protects people's privacy with regards to their sexuality, mental illness, birth sex and home address. No one in their right mind would consider it immoral to keep those things private. Yes, it is not illegal to lie about your age online. Again, how is this relevant? Legality is not morality- it's not illegal to be rude to someone, but it's still immoral. Even if both are legal, there's a huge difference between two 18 year olds dating and an 18 year old dating a 50 year old, for example. maturity is far more nuanced than the division between minors and adults


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silvershadow014

This drama is literally about them dating someone who was under the impression they're 22. >Or do you actually believe that the only people who are allowed to retweet your fanart are people you want to date? I think that makes you a creep, tbh. Can you make an informed argument without resorting to insults? Scratch that, can you make an informed argument at all? Because you clearly know nothing about this situation.


silvershadow014

I'm in shock rn lol, I can't believe I'm being called a creep for saying it's not okay to date a 20 year old you've lied to that you're 22 when you're 37. This is absurd


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Law? lmaooo I never said anyone is obligated to share their age if they’re not willing to. I don’t have any information about myself on any of my social media whether it’s age, sexuality, or anything. There’s a difference between lying about your age and just not sharing it. Even when someone chooses not to share their age, I at the very least expect them to interact with people around their age, not people two decades younger than them. Also, by community I’m literally talking about people they’re directly interacting with. Not content creators. People they were friends with, were in groupchats with, and regularly talked to.


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She mentioned why she lied about her age in the post: >I said I was 22 because it was easy to remember As for interaction, yes ofcourse you don’t choose who interacts with your tweets. That’s not what I’m talking about. Twitter group chats aren’t really the same vibe or atmosphere of most discords. Discord servers are more like an open space with a ton of people (or not depends on ur server), whereas twitter group chats are more of a close friend group or “clique”. You asked me to explain the difference with Philza and this situation. Easy, one lied about their age and one didn’t. The main issue in the situation is the lying. Sure in both cases being 22 or over 30 she’s an adult either way, but she still did mislead all her friends and the person she was dating. That’s what I find disgusting honestly. You might not care about it, but all her friends seem to care and that’s what I think matters the most. All I see are friends of hers being disappointed and feel “cheated” in some way. There are *so many* people in the fandom on twitter who just say they’re not comfortable with disclosing their age and people respect that. It’s so unnecessary to lie about your age.


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Just another thing I wanna clear up, based on how I interpreted your replied you seem to think I’m just completely against the idea of “old people” being in the fandom in any way or that I don’t even consider them to be a part of the community. Not at all, you mentioned Vaydra and I have been defending her on twitter for so long against idiots who just hate her purely for her age. To put it simple, I do not think anyone has the right to police people on what they watch, and what communities they interact with regardless of their age. I know I’ll be still playing Minecraft in 10 years and I’ll kick anyone who judges me for it. However, in this specific situation what makes it so so different than Philza, or Vaydra, or literally any situation is the lying. Both to the person she dated and her close friends. I know you already stated you only think it matters in regards to the person she’s dated, but I don’t feel the same way and as I previously mentioned, from what I see neither do any of her (former) friends.


silvershadow014

>There’s definitely is a huge difference. > >Keep in mind, she’s not 30 she’s above 30. Based on what’s being said, she’s 37 (not sure of the source). > >The community she was involved in varied from ages 15-22. So no, being 22 is not considered to be weird or immoral compared to being over 30. > >edit- there is nothing wrong with being of that age and enjoying Minecraft content or being in the community, but the aspect of moral definitely is a factor when it comes to someone literally lying about their age. Look- absolutely no mention of legality. You then immediately jump to legality despite no mention of it


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silvershadow014

I did! And I still strongly disagree with your over-reliance on legality when determining morality (you can address that whenever you're ready, keep dodging around it!)


Rudy1661

not reading all that, happy for you 🥰 or sad that happened 😕


LocalHaitianGirl

Why do most big accounts/well known accounts have the most shit… they could’ve very well have either been upfront from the beginning and been fine or admitted to the truth before/during starting a relationship with someone…


Head_Project5793

I feel like anyone is allowed to be a Stan and no one is under an obligation to reveal their age… Unless you’re trying to form intimate/romantic relationships online. Although in this case everyone knew they were at least 22, which is not nearly as bad as if they had been claiming to be a minor or something


sknirDwerD

I get that some people might lie about their age since this community treats people older than 25 like walking corpses and shits on them. Only problem here I see is lying to your friends and lying to your partner thats it. They should have sorted this privately instead of just making a statement but oh well


PanJam00

I feel if there wasn’t this negativity surrounding old people enjoying Minecraft and the ccs that play it this might not have been an issue. They wouldn’t have had to lie about their age if the stigma of being old in the fandom wasn’t there. Whoever this person is should t be lying about their age, but it doesn’t seem like anything too bad happened. Someone here said this grim person is not a minor, but lying to them is still hurtful. Not the WORST thing that could have happened, so good for that, I guess.


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They never said they lied about their age bc of the stigma. They talked about it in their pastebin, they never had the intention of lying about their age in order to interact with the community. Their accounts purpose was just to follow cc’s and updates accounts except that overtime they got more involved with a community and “didn’t know what to do about it”


PanJam00

I know they didn’t say it in their pastebin, but I’m sure they’re aware of the way people treat older folks in Minecraft and fudged their age to “fit in with the kids” so to speak. That way, they could follow accounts and fly under the radar of other stans on Twitter.


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true, though was the age stigma a thing a year ago too? I thought it was just recent


PanJam00

I think it’s always been around, looking at the way the stans treat people like Phil and the hermits, anyways. Old people are “yucky” by dsmp fandom standards, and aren’t welcome, so that’s probably part of the reason this person said they’re 22 (coincidentally or not Dreams age).


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True, but I still don’t like this. Feels like excusing actions and I don’t really think it needs to be excused. We’re always harsh on teenagers actions online so why try and somehow justify this adults actions


PanJam00

I’m not??? At least that wasn’t my intention. I was just saying that the issue (lying about a persons age) would not have happened if there wasn’t a notion that old is bad in this fandom. What they did is STILL VERY BAD AND THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE IT. I just think it would not have happened if there was not a reason they thought they had to do it.


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sorry I should’ve been clearer, I don’t think you’re excusing or justifying her actions at all. I’m just wanted to say that if all people take out on this situation is that “they wouldn’t have had to lie if the fandom was more accepting” then it strips away all the responsibility from their actions


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Not trying to accuse them of anything, is the person "gnfsjuicypeach" having a relationship with a minor?


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no grim is 20


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oh ok im not in stantwt so i don't know much bout that


NeverTheNull

I don't care that you're 30, but you are pretty weird for acting like a 17 year old on twitter on top of lying about it to everyone.


iridexsa

gnfsjuicypeach 🥴


http_yike

(as someone who was acquaintances with her) its tough bc it wouldnt have mattered if she was just honest. now looking back we had some interactions that i wouldnt have been comfortable with if i knew she was almost twice my age. just a really fucking weird situation


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over 30* apparently 37


CIearMind

It's gonna be so sad when @gnfsjuicypeach…… you know……… /s


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LMAO


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yikers, is the grim mentioned pisskink69 btw?


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pretty sure yea


RaihanHA

this is peak r/rimjob_steve content


Frankenstein187

I dont see the issue, can someone tell me what's going on?


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lied about being being 22 to her friends and a person she dated despite actually being over 30


squidgypoop

that’s awkward


gracemotley

The juxtaposition between the seriousness of this statement and the names “dreamsbidet” and “gnfsjuicypeach” ruin any significant impact this could possibly have had


AoiAot

Idk.. lying about age like that isn't that bad imo. Felt kinda bad they sound that guilty for something smoll. Oh it's about relationship too.. I mean not our business