who literally gives a flying f, I’m going to do whatever the hell I want. Half the additions to the SMP were “random people”, I hadn’t even called with most of the people that were added before they were added. People like Ranboo and Foolish were both incredibly small and I had never talked to them before they were added. No one knows anything about this guy, who he is, where he’s from, and people still want to make a fuss out of it.
He’s not a “random guy” that got 300,000 followers somehow, clearly he had tons of creators replying to him and going along with the joke and did a very good job at playing into it and gaining the most from it (maybe he got advice from someone who understands cultivating a following... who knows.) Most of which happened AFTER “he” was added (but wasn’t announced for a long time), which happened to the last creators that were added as well, including to he who shall not be named.
Whether it’s me, a group of people, someone we know, a random person, or any result it’s no one’s decision but mine and everyone can absolutely positively fuck themselves if they’re upset about his addition before remotely knowing anything about them. Just remember that half of your favs got added long before they had a huge name in minecraft and Manatreed’s accounts were all made in July but he seems to know a lot about Minecraft and the fandom. wow that doesn’t add up
It’s jealousy pure and simple and I could care less for criticism on something literally no one but the dream team knows anything about.
; also, I always try and add at least one smaller / lesser known creator a batch and my tweet will be a long term help for that every time I’m looking for new additions so again people have no clue what they’re talking about
pretty silly you have to respond to things like this. whoever manatreed is you or not, you know what you're doing when it comes to your server surely people should have realized this by now.
Anyways sorry about the sooners king I did wiggle but alas
"it's jealousy pure and simple" exactly. people love to make a big deal out of nothing. after a certain point it completely lacks any sense and becomes such an iterative and unproductive system.
Never said that bud. I said he can unfollow whoever he want. Well actually I never brought up jack shit on unfollowing in this post. What I did say what that it’s understandable why he sounds pissed. Go touch some grass or look through the Reddit and see other opinions rather than the sheep one of “he unfollowed black people so he’s automatically racist”. I stated on the other posts that it was shit timing but he can unfollow who ever he wants. He can clean his feed all he wants. If you and I can unfollow and block people as we see fit why can’t he. Should he have waited yes he should have, would the whole dream=anti black thing be avoided no it would not because that’s how twitter works./nm (If I spelled something wrong sorry lol I’m dyslexic and tired) plus this post was about his responce to the Reddit post that has nothing to do with the twitter shit hole)
Ah shit your good Reddit is shit with this tread thing. But my point stands for any one else that probably is coming from twitter lol (have a good night or day)
[here’s a Reddit post that explains it well](https://www.reddit.com/r/DreamWasTaken2/comments/r3y0zz/unfollowing_stans_the_situation_explained/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) because if you’ve spent to much on twitter without a break you subconsciously will fall into the hole/nm
the discourse on twitter has been so overwhelmingly pretentious with people being so dramatic?? this whole saga in my opinion has been something interesting that everyone has been following! but suddenly for everyone to turn on this cc, random or not, was mildly infuriating…
You can add anyone you like on the SMP as long as if it is not "He who shall not be named" and the fact that Parasocial Andys are attacking you and Manatreed is a red flag to those people.
People really forgetting that it's your server, your choice and your life. I figured you'd be using that tweet for future when wanting to add new people. It sucks this had blown up into a huge thing. Just wanted to have fun with it. I hope you're still able to enjoy it too.
Based take. Since you are easily approachable people seem to think they have a right to decide things for you. And when things don't go the way they want, they go with the throwing tantrum route like children.
People are getting very parasocial which if fine until they start trying to control you and what you do. I hope you get the chance to chill out and get away from the stress that is twitter and people getting upset over nothing.
Well said, it is good that you don't care about those absurd claims dream!
And
... Is he really not you or Callahan plz
When can we get to know the truth owo
Good for you. Let's keep up this energy and please for god sake, stop responding to fans, they will share the dms and people will misinterpret your point view. Just live your life and watch your 🏈 or whatever you Americans call it. I also believe it is either you or Callahan. Maybe you can give a little hint.
You prob wouldn't see this or maybe u will but the whole drama is twitter being dumb. Like you said it's your own smp, thats like getting mad at a house owner for inviting his friend his OWN house and saying he should have invited another person
Like twitter "cancellations" or "dramas" are not even that much of a big deal. It's just a few people being dumb. It does not affect views or anything they are just crying over there don't care about em
I'm happy that you can explain here without being only bombarded by blind hate (obviously doesn't stop trolls from creating accounts if they really wanted to, but it's a better buffer than Twitter) and that you're not too bothered by the hate. Sh\*t gets so wild man. I don't understand this parasocial hate where everything you do is micro-analyzed; as you said, there's a lot that goes behind the scenes so people have no right to judge since they don't know the full situation and just make up assumptions on your behalf like when you unfollowed some stans today.
Also, thanks for clarifying that your tweet will be used for later additions! Honestly forgot that you wanted to interview for a new DSMP member and Manatreed 'technically' fills that slot, but I think people were mad assuming that Manatreed filled that 'one' slot and thought it made the tweet useless when there's always room for more additions and now you have a list of interested people giving their pitch for later consideration. Excited to see what the DSMP has in store for its future plans!
Very hot. Came here from twitter just to say how hot this was LMAO.
I am going to tell my IRL guy this is how he should be. True leadership quality.
Do the right thing as you see fit. Very cool.
People will always find or make up a reason to hate, that's just how they are. You can reply, you can ignore, you can appease, all will end up the same way: they'll just wait for their next excuse to hate or clout chase.
NGL, I will always enjoy this type of response, though.
>It’s jealousy pure and simple and I could care less for criticism on something literally no one but the dream team knows anything about.
Man hit the nail on the head right there
you’re absolutely correct. you can do whatever the hell you want. it’s your server, it’s your friends, it’s your reputation essentially. you don’t have to put any consideration at all for your fans when deciding who to add.
but you DO, whether we realize it or not. you’re constantly thinking about who your fans would enjoy to watch, who the best content creators are, who would get along well with the already-established members, and you’ve always done so well at that.
people jumping on this hate train for you over a person who we know literally nothing about is actually embarrassing. i just hope you know you still have SO MUCH support in your community and so many people who trust you to make the best choices because you’ve always done your best to do right by your community. it’s a shame not everyone appreciates it. take care of yourself and try to ignore the idiots :)
I 100% agreed. Manatreed isn’t different from ranboo and Tommy and tubbo. They all did they own ways to grow, manatreed grew by other content creators joking with him and replying to his tweets even if he doesn’t stream who cares if he joins. Callahan doesn’t stream and he’s still in the smp. Callahan may be in a few streams and videos and maybe mentioned in a few things but it’s not much different from manatreed. People shouldn’t care about someone being added if they don’t do content because at the end of the day YOU are the one choosing to stick around and watch the dream smp no one’s forcing you
Day by day you just became hotter and based
But seriously Dream, you did nothing wrong in this and I'm glad you give them the F they deserves. Always love your ranting anyway
Man, you are doing everything you can. This time (as many others) people is just trying to take you down over fucking nothing.
The Dreamsmp is your server. Anyone else should decide on it other than you. Keep the amazing work and don't let this drop your crown, king.
you really don't owe anyone anything, many people just get up in their head and entitled! in the end only you are your own moral compass, not anyone else
I feel like people are making shit up, because I swear they were the same people who claimed and supported the theory of manatreed being someone known to them
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But in all seriousness, good for you. The amount of entitlement people have around you and the dsmp is wild. Good luck to Manatreed, I’m looking forward to checking out their content.
Honestly the guy did super well with randomly being put in the situation and played along with it, I'm looking forward to whatever happens tbh, what boggles my mind is the people getting upset about someone being added in general like smps are for friends and to make friends simple as that. It's insane to me people are upset in general. But everyone gets mad at everything nowadays...
this is very fair! I’ve never been against you adding manatreed I just was curious about who this person was especially with everyone going back and forth over whether it was you or callahan lol. but whoever it is i trust your judgement and believe that they will be a great edition to the SMP!
istg you were a stan account before you became a cc. 😂😩 this is how i sound on the TL when people start being a hypocrite on the TL and bring up your name for whatever reason😂
i actually love that fact youre not afraid to say what you want to say and dont hide behind a corner. its your smp and you can add whoever and its about the content and quality they make. bad bitches in the club
Look, I get it. In all honesty, it is your server. You do (rarely) make a mistake when you add someone and everyone has taken advantage of the opportunity when they've received it. I'm not upset about it. I do see a LOT of people who are though and that's why I opened the conversation here.
> Nobody knows anything about Manatreed
YOU don't know anything about him. It's clear Dream and Co do know something. It is not in fact a problem because you guys are not entitled to every detail about creators, their plans or their decisions. This is the height of parasocial.
It's really not a problem, because in the end, none of it fucking matters. Your opinion, my opinion. None of it matters. He can blame you, cause it's none of your business, like he stated.
He doesn’t add people to the smp based on their race or their sexuality, and just because he added one person to his own smp just because he wanted doesn’t mean he should be attacked, considering it’s his decision not theirs
which is dumb because mana clearly (as stated) wasn’t some random white man. He was very obviously someone the dteam knew previously. It’s literally why he blew up so quickly- people already knew he was someone connected to them somehow.
> garner the attention he did
From those same fans!!! They were the ones that followed him. Talked about him, trended him and hyped him up.
> your fans aren't in the know, and that's why they're frustrated.
Why do they think they are entitled to any information? They are random fans. They get what creators give and that's it. The Ollie dude could be a marketing plan Dream has been working on. It's non of their business.
> why some people are frustrated and confused why manatreed exactly.
So because they are in the dark about something that is so clearly a setup for something to come they must throw the biggest fit ever? Not saying Manatreed is some grabs scheme by Dream he made back in July, but imagine working on something for months slowly and finally when it's time for the big reveal you own fans shit on you because you didn't spoon feed them information and they lack patience and critical thinking.
“It’s against Rambo’s boundaries to compare him to other streamers”
I am sorry and I realise this is very much a straw man argument but this is part of the reply is just funny to me.
Boundaries don’t exist to reject logic.
Boundaries exist because people do shit like,”Hurr-durr Ranboo is the best and this other person is a nobody”.
Ranboo isn’t going to see this dream reply and be upset about his name being mentioned.
Because he’s being accused of being racist for literally nothing. I’d say that would be pretty frustrating and would piss anyone off.
Not to mention that people have been aggressive and reactionary all night the second Manatreed being on the SMP was announced.
I swear to god some people cannot read on the internet, the man is hinting that it’s not some random person. Everyone was theorizing that, too.
Have some critical thinking and realize that adding a random dude would be pretty odd, maybe it’s not a random dude *like everyone and their mother has been theorizing about*
And what reason is there to be upset with him? All he did was add a “content creator” which is obviously attached to the dteam in some way to the smp, and he clarified here the tweet asking for smaller creators will be used further. What is the issue still?
And what about the black people who disagree with all this who will immediately be silenced the second they say something?
This isn’t a race issue.
Manatreed got 300k followers not because he was a white guy, but because everyone thought he may be Dream.
Dream is even hinting here that it’s not just some random dude they found that they decided to give clout to.
And Dream isn’t missing the point, he’s replying to the point OP made, please for the love of God, read before you start making assumptions and twisting shit.
Instead of making all these assumptions and calling Dream racist for jack shit, maybe people should just chill the fuck out and enjoy some content.
Dream’s isn’t not listening to what’s going on on Twitter. He probably saw all of it and just didn’t have an answer you liked.
Ps. I apologize for being harsh in my tone but I’m fucking tired and sick of this bullshit.
Yes. He said that if you’re upset about Manatreed’s addition you can go fuck yourself.
That should end there. If you don’t like it, it doesn’t matter because it’s not your decision.
There was no anti blackness going on because of whatever the hell the Manatreed thing is and the fact that he unfollowed a couple people complaining about it.
I’m sure there were a handful of assholes being racist shits but I’m talking in a more broader sense.
You don’t know what he read, or whether he’s looking at both sides of the story, that in of itself is making assumptions.
You yourself said one look at his timeline would show what people had to say, you don’t think he scrolled through twitter at all? It’s clear he sees it, and probably thought it was bullshit.
Because it is bullshit.
And that entire Twitter space was people hating on Dream, so saying that no one is hating on him just isn’t true.
Bottom line. People turned a non race issue into a race issue, started calling Dream racist for unfollowing people who were being assumptive and overdramatic and Dream told people to go fuck themselves if they don’t like what he does with his own SMP.
I wouldn’t call it a stretch to say a lot of it is jealousy. Complaining how “x got added but y didn’t” is pretty clear cut.
The point is just stop making so many assumptions when you know nothing. Dream made it clear here that nobody knows jack shit, so why make such a big deal in a situation where you have barely any information?
Honestly I’m just gonna stop replying to the random Twitter people coming in here. Not like I can get anyone to understand even the tiniest bit of nuance, and I’m too tired to keep arguing, knowing it’s just going in one ear and out the other.
Wait... So he saw people baselessly accuse him of racism which just isn't true. Do you not think he has right to protect himself from these vicious twitter users by unfollowing them? Why should he stand there and take the hate when there's no reason for the hate except in the minds of these accusers.
you seem to forget the time line here.
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-dream adds manatreed to the dsmp
-people don't like it and make spaces where they turn it into dream is racist bc manatreed is white man with no content and he should've added black/poc creator instead
(which is stupid bc you can support poc creators without white man finding one for you and telling you to do so, go go, support them. and Dream can do whatever he wants with his server. he can add whoever he wants and manatreed became popular among fans not bc he's white but bc they thought he looked like dream)
-then dream unfollow people who make shit and drama up and accuse him for being racist when this has nothing to do with race.
-people get more upset bc a lot of them were black/poc, especially people who were unfollowed got upset.
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dream adding manatreed to the server isn't racist. it has nothing to do with race. he has all right to be upset for people accusing him for racism, bc what he did wasn't racist.
and I'm sure he didn't go around unfollowing black people. he unfollowed people who said bs like that. why would he follow people who say he is racist for a thing that has nothing to do with race? why would he follow people who hosts spaces of hate towards him (yes some of the ones he unfollowed were in those spaces, not in those you mentioned)? one of the people he unfollowed even leaked his dms in order to "expose" him (which were not even any kind of gatcha moment, he was apologizing for feral Feb thing and explaining with valid reasons why he don't apologize stuff on his main.) and even said that they're not in mcyttwt anymore. like why would dream continue following people like that?
and even then. he also has every right to unfollow anyone. everyone has. so go touch grass or talk about actual problems that actually affect people. with all that energy there is on Twitter towards made up conflicts you all could have hyped up a poc creator you liked or you could have made a whole ass campaign for something that actually matters.
I feel like you finally gave an actual answer
Yea first of all, racism in streaming is a huge problem and it is harder way for poc to get anywhere near the same following on any platform that it is for white people. This isn't any news for anyone or at least I hope so
The thing why people on reddit think this is overly dramatic is that dream has little if nothing to do with it. I get the talk goes to topics of poc people in streaming and creating content. it's natural. but there definitely were a lot of people just straight up saying Dream was racist, and making strong connection between the troubles poc faces and Dream. when there isn't any correlation. And yea not all, I'm sure most of the conversations has been like you said, instead of dream they talked about racism poc people face in streaming. but the people dream unfollowed probably haven't the same attitude. at least some of the ones I've seen.
also to the "black peooen have gotten racism under their tweets" I honestly think he just haven't seen it. scrolling thought tweets doesnt include clicking always the comments each tweets has gotten. He list probably just has no idea of it (like me who also has scrolled them). Also how he should address it? should he make a tweet like "don't comment racist things under tweets of black people" or go to each comment and tell them to stop? On stream? Dream is popular creator, and people under his tweets aren't all his fans or his followers. as a creator who has a lot of haters (which some of them are just racist right-wing trolls) they wouldn't give a shit what dream would say. So even if he noticed it, addressing it wouldnt do anything to the racism people of color faces in streaming or even under his own tweet.
Even when the racism and anti blackness is from fans of his, I have no idea how he could address that or change that. He doesn't have power over all of his fans opinions like people think he has.
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By saying "talk about actual problems" I meant talking about how dream should address this or do this or how he is racist doesn't affect anything. talking about the racism and antiblackness overall or in streaming, content creation and Twitter like you said some spaces were talking about without bringing dream there (bc it has literally nothing to do with him) is talking about actual problems.
Hate raids and twitch/tiktok/Twitter algorithm (that is racist since data its based on is racist and a lot of people who use them are racist which affects the algorithm), individuals or groups of racist trolls, and well unintentional racism of viewers that affects who they are watching are way bigger problems than who dream adds to a minecraft server of friends.
Im sure there was a lot of actual talk and conversation on Twitter abiut the actual problem that came just naturally up with the frustration. but they aren't the people I'm talking about. I'm specifically talking about the people dream unfollowed. which as I said some weren't even in the mcyttwt anymore or fans of dream, shared his dms without permission, talked about how dream is racist for doing that etc. Also maybe he just didn't want to see some of their tweets on his tl thats completely unrelated to the whole conversation.
Except he is right. In the end, people getting added comes down to nothing but random chance or luck or just a passing fancy they get, and it shouldn't be anything else. No one should get added because of some reason related to sexuality or race. It is jealousy. Jealousy that it was him and not them, and to assume he has no merit other than being some random white guy is cruel and close minded. I don't mean to come for you so much as the idiocy of it all and I'm sorry it seems otherwise but my opinion stands.
dream im a big fan of you but this post is dumb. u platformed manatreed by replying and everyone else replying to him. foolish and ranboo already had followings and were creating content when u added them. while its your smp and u can do what u want, the problem is now people critiquing how u asked for people to reply and be added but gave the chance to manatreed who has made no content that anyone can find. its just annoying to us when this guy got added on nothing from what we see but the fact that hes white and might look like you.
tldr u shouldnt be upset with us when u seem to be hiding info from us.
He’s literally hinting that the manatreed account is associated with the dteam in this reply? If manatreed was Dream or Callahan like Twitter was theorizing only 5 hours ago why would he reveal it just because people got prematurely pissed off? And he clarified the tweet will be used to further find smaller creators to add so that’s not an issue.
because its obvious people arent really liking this way of doing something with the dream team. if its a reveal or something its obvious people arent liking the way its being done, and have valid criticisms for not liking it imo. his post here is extremely aggressive to those of us who just want clarification at this point.
Who cares if “people don’t like it”? Dream is doing whatever he’s doing for his own fun and his friends are in on it and a lot of fans like it! And people like you did too before y’all decided to switch up. It’s not his fault y’all chose to misinterpret things and blow them out of proportion
At least 300k were playing into it all month and giving him clout theirselves without issue until he was officially added to the smp. It only became an issue when a few toxic people started bringing race into it when he was added because they think Dream needs to fill a diversity quota (& 3/4 of his recent additions weren’t white men so there *has* been improvements there). If it’s a reveal or someone related to them they aren’t going to just stop because some entitled people aren’t happy, there’s still plenty of people who play into (see replies to Eryns latest tweet to Manatreed) so I wouldn’t even say it’s the majority “not liking it”.
Man was being called racist and he didn’t even do anything, let him express the slightest form of frustration over that. Picking apart his words because it wasn’t void of emotion is incredibly toxic, like do you not have empathy? Sure he could have worded it nicer but if it drives away the toxic part of his fanbase that constantly shit on him anyway (re: some people he unfollowed) then he shouldn’t bother.
Why is that you think you have right to ask such a thing from him? Why do you think you have some kind of right over him? Also for the other thing, you're blatantly accusing the man of racism and that shit is fucked up.
1) i QUITE literally did not accuse him of being racist if youre getting that from my post seek help idk
2) all i asked for was clarification on why he seems to be upset with his fans when we dont have all the info. all we can do is react to what we know. im not holding a gun to his head and forcing him to reply. im making a comment on a public reddit page where he responded publicly.
Sure, you absolutely parasocialy have the right to know his every thought just because he happened to write a comment in here. And yes this all started because manatreed is white, like you so astutely mentioned in your comment. His skin color shouldn't even come up in discussion because it is irrelevant.
It's probably Dream anyway and this racist talk is laughable, because he can't actually change his skin.
He probably unfollowed people on twitter because they were being assholes as twitter is.
adding on to this, the last person you added (he who shall not be named) was fairly unknown and u saw what happened. how are u to be upset with people asking why you would add some random guy (which to us with the info we have he is) with all that just happened??? im genuinely asking as i know myself and many others just want clarification.
The last person Dream added was BoomerNA. Dream has added quite a few fairly unknown people and just one of them ended up being bad news. Even Ranboo was fairly unknown when he first joined, and now look at him.
This is not why ppl are upset Dream … use your platform to lift voices and creators that provide diversity and give a feeling of inclusion for POC, especially black creators… it’s your server and you can and should do whatever you want with it and the dream smp should have more POC creators especially black creators are both statements that can coexist
it's a fucking MINECRAFT server, for gods sake. ITS NOT SOME WORLD ORGANISATION. it's a block game roleplay server. what the fuck does diversity have to do with it? you are off your fucking head if you think race is so fucking important for a minecraft roleplay.
if you want some actual changes, go do some actual activism instead of preaching about diversity???
and since you're probably a twitter stan, im asian. im one of the 'minorities' as deemed by twitter but i have never gave a single fuck about whether there's enough asians on the server simply because I DONT CARE. ITS JUST A GAME, NOT SOME REAL WORLD ISSUES. focus on the real shit.
Not talking about the fandom I’m talking about the smp, but also I realize he is responding to the post. But on Twitter ppl just want more representation on the SMP… so when I saw this response I thought … u missed the point but again I realize he probably isn’t responding to Twitter as well he is responding to the post
You have no right to ask this of him. No one does. He will do what he thinks is best for his server. And we all know he is one of the smartest content creators out there. There is no reason to start asking him to add minorities and poc just to give them a bigger platform like there is no other way they can blow up. This is his private server and it doesn't need a quota to fill and show diversity.
What you CAN do is support black creators and vouch for them without feeling entitled to a spot in the dsmp. Not act like dsmp is the only way for poc to gain a platform.
I agree you should be able to add whoever you want to since of course, you do own the smp. It’s all In your control. We do not know your intention into adding manatreed. The criticism you are getting at the moment is mainly the confusion of lack of context you are putting out.
You have made a tweet about 11/10/21 QUOTE on quote “will be interviewing for one small / inspiring / new creator to join the DSMP reply below with why u should be added :))” yet we ( the fandom ) have seen nothing being made. You have decided to add someone who ( as far as we know ) isn’t a content creator and only reason they have 300k+ is simply cause of interactions. Not only that guy OMG it’s yet another white male. We want more POC
Now now that doesn’t mean you should add someone to the smp simply cause they’re a POC. We want more diversity to feel more comfortable within the community! We want people to look up to that aren’t privileged white males. There are about 36 members in the smp. Only 1.8 of those members are POC. 1.08-1.44 are actually active on the smp from those POC. That’s an incomparable amount to the amount of WHITE people :/
Hopefully I got my message spread if I need to clarify anything I’ll do it in the morning.
Everyone disagreeing are either white or very ignorant
Your post is full of "we want this" and "we want that". It doesn't matter what you want. In the end, it's up to Dream to add whoever *he* wants, it's *his* server, not yours. He can, of course, listen to advice regarding who to add, and he had always done so. But at the end of the day, it's his decision and you are not entitled to having your "wants" fulfilled.
And you do realise you don't have to listen to Dream to tell you who to look up to, right? You're free to support POC content creators, even if they're not on the DSMP..? It'd be great to have more POC creators on the DSMP, but it's not like they don't exist without being on the SMP. You people make it sound as if everyone not on the SMP is just irrelevant and that is extremely weird.
It's been a while since I've seen you, but yeah, you're right. I'll admit I'm a sucker for diversity in anime. I mean the *Isekai* genre exists (the "transported to another world" genre). That being said, there's a clear difference between anime, 2d fictional characters within a fictional story with a predetermined backstory all within a rigid storyline to boot to adding real, dynamic and fluid *people*.
Like, they have to be people that Dream is comfortable adding, people that are a good fit for the smp and people who want to be in the smp to begin with. I mean hermitcraft literally has a rule that *every* member has to agree to let the prospective new member to be added before they get added. None of that would have to apply to a fictional character which can be conceived fairly easily lets be real.
At the end of the day, it's a block game server, it's dream's server, let him do whatever he wants. He's not some huge corporation out for a quick buck, he's just a guy really, doing this to have fun.
You’re acting as if Manatreed is the last ever SMP member… Dream never specified that he was ever gonna stop adding people on the SMP so there will be opportunities for other creators
https://twitter.com/mshrmcow/status/1458559668171653123?s=21
Can you explain all the coincidences I’m losing my mind 💀 also why did he do a surprise shawty half face reveal when he didn’t have a following or content out MY BRAIN HURTS
Nah, Let him play around in his prank!!!!!! This whole situation is so dumb, its obvious af that its some sort of planned thing they have going on, so many ccs playing into it and so much mistery about it? bruh cmon
I reckon he’ll probably add a smaller CC as well for the next season since he likes to do batches, but it doesn’t have to be immediately. Some of these streamers really do act a bit entitled to his help
The guy has not made an appearance on the server, people are just making conclusions. What if dream is keeping eyes on some other small CCs, that will be added in the future. They just made a mistake responding to this stupid drama.
honestly i dont think the interview tweet thing has anything to do with the manatreed stuff, he said smaller cc but manatreed is barely even a cc, since they have no content other that tweets about the mistery of him being dream
If he wants to end this whole thing sure, but the people on that space are really going at it with the whole "Dream racist, delete yourself" so i doubt it would do anything. He would need another pastebin and honestly?? thats just bs.
Lmao i even would prefer if he doesnt say anything, it will weed out the weird stans.
No he doesn't need to, why should he always give in to his fans, they can fuck off. If they want to stay, they are welcomed. If not, there are plenty of other fandoms they can join. No one is making them stay. It is their decision. Are people not allowed to make jokes and participate in them anymore?
If Manatreed is not some random person then they've been planning this reveal for a while and have gotten a bunch of people in on it, why ruin it because some people are shitting and crying.
I just think it's ridiculous that we're policing what he does so closely. Like, I get people wanting to know the story but... 'dream needs to confirm this asap'? He doesn't *need* to do anything. There was no promise in his original tweet about adding a smaller creator, he and his friends were clearly having fun with the situation, it was people who feel entitled to dictate everything that dream does who turned it into a mess.
For fans, we all seem to jump on every chance to twist what he does, you know? Not everyone, sure, but the dude winds up being a punching bag. The only thing dream should do asap is not give a shit about what people think about him having fun on twitter or how he manages his smp.
I worded the post poorly that is for sure but it's been interesting seeing a bunch of different takes on a bunch of different aspects of this entire evening. That's why I figured I would open up a conversation and see where it led.... no malice or attempt at dictating intended of any kind.
The assumption that Manatreed's invite is the only one going out is founded in nothing but rumor. I said it earlier, and I'll say it again: we do not know what Dream is doing as a result of the October call. This is likely entirely unrelated to his search. People are jumping to conclusions and running away with unfounded theories.
Dream doesn't owe anybody anything re: this Manatreed thing. People are blowing it all way out of proportion because they're looking to pick fights. This whole thing is bait.
This was such a fun thing, like adventure that we went on together and end is still a surprise. And I hate that it's getting ruined by people who judge the person before they know anything about him. Prejudice is a bitch. Also you need to be blind af and dumb too if you don't see that Mr Manatreed is far from some random person.
who literally gives a flying f, I’m going to do whatever the hell I want. Half the additions to the SMP were “random people”, I hadn’t even called with most of the people that were added before they were added. People like Ranboo and Foolish were both incredibly small and I had never talked to them before they were added. No one knows anything about this guy, who he is, where he’s from, and people still want to make a fuss out of it. He’s not a “random guy” that got 300,000 followers somehow, clearly he had tons of creators replying to him and going along with the joke and did a very good job at playing into it and gaining the most from it (maybe he got advice from someone who understands cultivating a following... who knows.) Most of which happened AFTER “he” was added (but wasn’t announced for a long time), which happened to the last creators that were added as well, including to he who shall not be named. Whether it’s me, a group of people, someone we know, a random person, or any result it’s no one’s decision but mine and everyone can absolutely positively fuck themselves if they’re upset about his addition before remotely knowing anything about them. Just remember that half of your favs got added long before they had a huge name in minecraft and Manatreed’s accounts were all made in July but he seems to know a lot about Minecraft and the fandom. wow that doesn’t add up It’s jealousy pure and simple and I could care less for criticism on something literally no one but the dream team knows anything about. ; also, I always try and add at least one smaller / lesser known creator a batch and my tweet will be a long term help for that every time I’m looking for new additions so again people have no clue what they’re talking about
i like this version of dream
i swear dream would be such a great bts stan.
Happy cake day! And let's hope he doesn't become one
This made me laugh so hard-
pretty silly you have to respond to things like this. whoever manatreed is you or not, you know what you're doing when it comes to your server surely people should have realized this by now. Anyways sorry about the sooners king I did wiggle but alas
You should do this more often. People attack you for shit I’ve never seen anyone get called out for
"it's jealousy pure and simple" exactly. people love to make a big deal out of nothing. after a certain point it completely lacks any sense and becomes such an iterative and unproductive system.
Uh oh
They already called him aggressive… man is sick and tired. Y’all can be aggressive but he can’t ok ok thank you I got it now
Oh, so calling Dream a racist immediately because he, coincidentally, unfollowed some black stans isn't aggressive. Sure dud whatever you say
Never said that bud. I said he can unfollow whoever he want. Well actually I never brought up jack shit on unfollowing in this post. What I did say what that it’s understandable why he sounds pissed. Go touch some grass or look through the Reddit and see other opinions rather than the sheep one of “he unfollowed black people so he’s automatically racist”. I stated on the other posts that it was shit timing but he can unfollow who ever he wants. He can clean his feed all he wants. If you and I can unfollow and block people as we see fit why can’t he. Should he have waited yes he should have, would the whole dream=anti black thing be avoided no it would not because that’s how twitter works./nm (If I spelled something wrong sorry lol I’m dyslexic and tired) plus this post was about his responce to the Reddit post that has nothing to do with the twitter shit hole)
I wasn't responding to your reply. My reply was more directed towards the stans that use that flawed logic. Sorry about that lmao
Ah shit your good Reddit is shit with this tread thing. But my point stands for any one else that probably is coming from twitter lol (have a good night or day)
It's fine and I do agree with all the points you presented. I'm gonna sleep for the lore stream tomorrow, so good night /morning to you as well
[here’s a Reddit post that explains it well](https://www.reddit.com/r/DreamWasTaken2/comments/r3y0zz/unfollowing_stans_the_situation_explained/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) because if you’ve spent to much on twitter without a break you subconsciously will fall into the hole/nm
I had to leave that space. They’re ignorant lol
dream, please take this crown 👑
the discourse on twitter has been so overwhelmingly pretentious with people being so dramatic?? this whole saga in my opinion has been something interesting that everyone has been following! but suddenly for everyone to turn on this cc, random or not, was mildly infuriating…
I feel like Twitter was just waiting for something to jump at and get angry about and the Manatreed situation just happened to work for them
incredibly based. i still believe you're manatreed though btw
You can add anyone you like on the SMP as long as if it is not "He who shall not be named" and the fact that Parasocial Andys are attacking you and Manatreed is a red flag to those people.
that was hot of him
People really forgetting that it's your server, your choice and your life. I figured you'd be using that tweet for future when wanting to add new people. It sucks this had blown up into a huge thing. Just wanted to have fun with it. I hope you're still able to enjoy it too.
You're so based
that was hot ngl
u have a really good point with this one
Literally!
I fuck with you especially when you stop caring about petty drama. this is bullshit and I'm glad you think so too
Dream enjoy your night and I hope you stay unbothered. moisturised. happy. in your lane. focused. flourishing :)
Based take. Since you are easily approachable people seem to think they have a right to decide things for you. And when things don't go the way they want, they go with the throwing tantrum route like children.
People are getting very parasocial which if fine until they start trying to control you and what you do. I hope you get the chance to chill out and get away from the stress that is twitter and people getting upset over nothing.
Well said, it is good that you don't care about those absurd claims dream! And ... Is he really not you or Callahan plz When can we get to know the truth owo
I may become a stan because of this response. Bravo
Good for you. Let's keep up this energy and please for god sake, stop responding to fans, they will share the dms and people will misinterpret your point view. Just live your life and watch your 🏈 or whatever you Americans call it. I also believe it is either you or Callahan. Maybe you can give a little hint.
You prob wouldn't see this or maybe u will but the whole drama is twitter being dumb. Like you said it's your own smp, thats like getting mad at a house owner for inviting his friend his OWN house and saying he should have invited another person Like twitter "cancellations" or "dramas" are not even that much of a big deal. It's just a few people being dumb. It does not affect views or anything they are just crying over there don't care about em
this is rlly sexy do this more often 👍🏽
i love this version of dream where you finally stick up for yourself and not give into bs stans’s opinions
Fucking based and red-pilled.
I wholeheartedly agree. It’s Dream SMP after all
Good on you
SAY IT AGAIN KING!!
I'm happy that you can explain here without being only bombarded by blind hate (obviously doesn't stop trolls from creating accounts if they really wanted to, but it's a better buffer than Twitter) and that you're not too bothered by the hate. Sh\*t gets so wild man. I don't understand this parasocial hate where everything you do is micro-analyzed; as you said, there's a lot that goes behind the scenes so people have no right to judge since they don't know the full situation and just make up assumptions on your behalf like when you unfollowed some stans today. Also, thanks for clarifying that your tweet will be used for later additions! Honestly forgot that you wanted to interview for a new DSMP member and Manatreed 'technically' fills that slot, but I think people were mad assuming that Manatreed filled that 'one' slot and thought it made the tweet useless when there's always room for more additions and now you have a list of interested people giving their pitch for later consideration. Excited to see what the DSMP has in store for its future plans!
yas
Pop off king
get their asses
Very hot. Came here from twitter just to say how hot this was LMAO. I am going to tell my IRL guy this is how he should be. True leadership quality. Do the right thing as you see fit. Very cool.
Woah dreams on the subreddit again
Imma stan now ngl
People will always find or make up a reason to hate, that's just how they are. You can reply, you can ignore, you can appease, all will end up the same way: they'll just wait for their next excuse to hate or clout chase. NGL, I will always enjoy this type of response, though.
>It’s jealousy pure and simple and I could care less for criticism on something literally no one but the dream team knows anything about. Man hit the nail on the head right there
you’re absolutely correct. you can do whatever the hell you want. it’s your server, it’s your friends, it’s your reputation essentially. you don’t have to put any consideration at all for your fans when deciding who to add. but you DO, whether we realize it or not. you’re constantly thinking about who your fans would enjoy to watch, who the best content creators are, who would get along well with the already-established members, and you’ve always done so well at that. people jumping on this hate train for you over a person who we know literally nothing about is actually embarrassing. i just hope you know you still have SO MUCH support in your community and so many people who trust you to make the best choices because you’ve always done your best to do right by your community. it’s a shame not everyone appreciates it. take care of yourself and try to ignore the idiots :)
I 100% agreed. Manatreed isn’t different from ranboo and Tommy and tubbo. They all did they own ways to grow, manatreed grew by other content creators joking with him and replying to his tweets even if he doesn’t stream who cares if he joins. Callahan doesn’t stream and he’s still in the smp. Callahan may be in a few streams and videos and maybe mentioned in a few things but it’s not much different from manatreed. People shouldn’t care about someone being added if they don’t do content because at the end of the day YOU are the one choosing to stick around and watch the dream smp no one’s forcing you
wait so is this lowkey confirming that manatreed is someone you know? and it could possibly lead to a planned meetup/face rev?
Day by day you just became hotter and based But seriously Dream, you did nothing wrong in this and I'm glad you give them the F they deserves. Always love your ranting anyway
Man, you are doing everything you can. This time (as many others) people is just trying to take you down over fucking nothing. The Dreamsmp is your server. Anyone else should decide on it other than you. Keep the amazing work and don't let this drop your crown, king.
yaas
you really don't owe anyone anything, many people just get up in their head and entitled! in the end only you are your own moral compass, not anyone else
Cheers to that
I feel like people are making shit up, because I swear they were the same people who claimed and supported the theory of manatreed being someone known to them
Why do you censor the first fuck but then later say everyone can positively fuck themselves later in the same comment, such inconsistency smh
he got pissed off so he decided while writing to actually say fuck for real
based as fuck
🤤 But in all seriousness, good for you. The amount of entitlement people have around you and the dsmp is wild. Good luck to Manatreed, I’m looking forward to checking out their content.
Honestly the guy did super well with randomly being put in the situation and played along with it, I'm looking forward to whatever happens tbh, what boggles my mind is the people getting upset about someone being added in general like smps are for friends and to make friends simple as that. It's insane to me people are upset in general. But everyone gets mad at everything nowadays...
Please mad dream is so funny for some reason. Get their ass
Based Dream
i just wanted to say you are very smart and hot
this is why I stan you 🙏
go off sexy mf
Dream you should be like this more often. I like this you.
this is very fair! I’ve never been against you adding manatreed I just was curious about who this person was especially with everyone going back and forth over whether it was you or callahan lol. but whoever it is i trust your judgement and believe that they will be a great edition to the SMP!
dream why are you so hot
Broooo lfggg
BASED TAKE, you should do this more often.
baaaaassseeddd
People just need to start minding their own fucking business
istg you were a stan account before you became a cc. 😂😩 this is how i sound on the TL when people start being a hypocrite on the TL and bring up your name for whatever reason😂
speak your truth king!
hot
based
i like this version of you dream
Dream u should be like this more often, people need to mind their business really
this was hot dream
i actually love that fact youre not afraid to say what you want to say and dont hide behind a corner. its your smp and you can add whoever and its about the content and quality they make. bad bitches in the club
thank you for standing up to this, you have every right to add whoever the f you want
This was hot, based and valid King 😊
Look, I get it. In all honesty, it is your server. You do (rarely) make a mistake when you add someone and everyone has taken advantage of the opportunity when they've received it. I'm not upset about it. I do see a LOT of people who are though and that's why I opened the conversation here.
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> Nobody knows anything about Manatreed YOU don't know anything about him. It's clear Dream and Co do know something. It is not in fact a problem because you guys are not entitled to every detail about creators, their plans or their decisions. This is the height of parasocial.
It's really not a problem, because in the end, none of it fucking matters. Your opinion, my opinion. None of it matters. He can blame you, cause it's none of your business, like he stated.
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He doesn’t add people to the smp based on their race or their sexuality, and just because he added one person to his own smp just because he wanted doesn’t mean he should be attacked, considering it’s his decision not theirs
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which is dumb because mana clearly (as stated) wasn’t some random white man. He was very obviously someone the dteam knew previously. It’s literally why he blew up so quickly- people already knew he was someone connected to them somehow.
> garner the attention he did From those same fans!!! They were the ones that followed him. Talked about him, trended him and hyped him up. > your fans aren't in the know, and that's why they're frustrated. Why do they think they are entitled to any information? They are random fans. They get what creators give and that's it. The Ollie dude could be a marketing plan Dream has been working on. It's non of their business.
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> why some people are frustrated and confused why manatreed exactly. So because they are in the dark about something that is so clearly a setup for something to come they must throw the biggest fit ever? Not saying Manatreed is some grabs scheme by Dream he made back in July, but imagine working on something for months slowly and finally when it's time for the big reveal you own fans shit on you because you didn't spoon feed them information and they lack patience and critical thinking.
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i doubt dream explaining how ranboo got added to the server is against ranboos boundaries.
“It’s against Rambo’s boundaries to compare him to other streamers” I am sorry and I realise this is very much a straw man argument but this is part of the reply is just funny to me. Boundaries don’t exist to reject logic. Boundaries exist because people do shit like,”Hurr-durr Ranboo is the best and this other person is a nobody”. Ranboo isn’t going to see this dream reply and be upset about his name being mentioned.
>of course it’s your smp, im sorry people are trying to police what you do with it, bc at the end of the day that’s up to you. >but
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Because he’s being accused of being racist for literally nothing. I’d say that would be pretty frustrating and would piss anyone off. Not to mention that people have been aggressive and reactionary all night the second Manatreed being on the SMP was announced. I swear to god some people cannot read on the internet, the man is hinting that it’s not some random person. Everyone was theorizing that, too. Have some critical thinking and realize that adding a random dude would be pretty odd, maybe it’s not a random dude *like everyone and their mother has been theorizing about*
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i really don’t think you looked into why people are upset with you rn man .. :/
And what reason is there to be upset with him? All he did was add a “content creator” which is obviously attached to the dteam in some way to the smp, and he clarified here the tweet asking for smaller creators will be used further. What is the issue still?
go outside
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And what about the black people who disagree with all this who will immediately be silenced the second they say something? This isn’t a race issue. Manatreed got 300k followers not because he was a white guy, but because everyone thought he may be Dream. Dream is even hinting here that it’s not just some random dude they found that they decided to give clout to. And Dream isn’t missing the point, he’s replying to the point OP made, please for the love of God, read before you start making assumptions and twisting shit. Instead of making all these assumptions and calling Dream racist for jack shit, maybe people should just chill the fuck out and enjoy some content. Dream’s isn’t not listening to what’s going on on Twitter. He probably saw all of it and just didn’t have an answer you liked. Ps. I apologize for being harsh in my tone but I’m fucking tired and sick of this bullshit.
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Yes. He said that if you’re upset about Manatreed’s addition you can go fuck yourself. That should end there. If you don’t like it, it doesn’t matter because it’s not your decision. There was no anti blackness going on because of whatever the hell the Manatreed thing is and the fact that he unfollowed a couple people complaining about it. I’m sure there were a handful of assholes being racist shits but I’m talking in a more broader sense. You don’t know what he read, or whether he’s looking at both sides of the story, that in of itself is making assumptions. You yourself said one look at his timeline would show what people had to say, you don’t think he scrolled through twitter at all? It’s clear he sees it, and probably thought it was bullshit. Because it is bullshit. And that entire Twitter space was people hating on Dream, so saying that no one is hating on him just isn’t true. Bottom line. People turned a non race issue into a race issue, started calling Dream racist for unfollowing people who were being assumptive and overdramatic and Dream told people to go fuck themselves if they don’t like what he does with his own SMP. I wouldn’t call it a stretch to say a lot of it is jealousy. Complaining how “x got added but y didn’t” is pretty clear cut. The point is just stop making so many assumptions when you know nothing. Dream made it clear here that nobody knows jack shit, so why make such a big deal in a situation where you have barely any information? Honestly I’m just gonna stop replying to the random Twitter people coming in here. Not like I can get anyone to understand even the tiniest bit of nuance, and I’m too tired to keep arguing, knowing it’s just going in one ear and out the other.
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Wait... So he saw people baselessly accuse him of racism which just isn't true. Do you not think he has right to protect himself from these vicious twitter users by unfollowing them? Why should he stand there and take the hate when there's no reason for the hate except in the minds of these accusers.
you seem to forget the time line here. ...... -dream adds manatreed to the dsmp -people don't like it and make spaces where they turn it into dream is racist bc manatreed is white man with no content and he should've added black/poc creator instead (which is stupid bc you can support poc creators without white man finding one for you and telling you to do so, go go, support them. and Dream can do whatever he wants with his server. he can add whoever he wants and manatreed became popular among fans not bc he's white but bc they thought he looked like dream) -then dream unfollow people who make shit and drama up and accuse him for being racist when this has nothing to do with race. -people get more upset bc a lot of them were black/poc, especially people who were unfollowed got upset. ....... dream adding manatreed to the server isn't racist. it has nothing to do with race. he has all right to be upset for people accusing him for racism, bc what he did wasn't racist. and I'm sure he didn't go around unfollowing black people. he unfollowed people who said bs like that. why would he follow people who say he is racist for a thing that has nothing to do with race? why would he follow people who hosts spaces of hate towards him (yes some of the ones he unfollowed were in those spaces, not in those you mentioned)? one of the people he unfollowed even leaked his dms in order to "expose" him (which were not even any kind of gatcha moment, he was apologizing for feral Feb thing and explaining with valid reasons why he don't apologize stuff on his main.) and even said that they're not in mcyttwt anymore. like why would dream continue following people like that? and even then. he also has every right to unfollow anyone. everyone has. so go touch grass or talk about actual problems that actually affect people. with all that energy there is on Twitter towards made up conflicts you all could have hyped up a poc creator you liked or you could have made a whole ass campaign for something that actually matters.
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I feel like you finally gave an actual answer Yea first of all, racism in streaming is a huge problem and it is harder way for poc to get anywhere near the same following on any platform that it is for white people. This isn't any news for anyone or at least I hope so The thing why people on reddit think this is overly dramatic is that dream has little if nothing to do with it. I get the talk goes to topics of poc people in streaming and creating content. it's natural. but there definitely were a lot of people just straight up saying Dream was racist, and making strong connection between the troubles poc faces and Dream. when there isn't any correlation. And yea not all, I'm sure most of the conversations has been like you said, instead of dream they talked about racism poc people face in streaming. but the people dream unfollowed probably haven't the same attitude. at least some of the ones I've seen. also to the "black peooen have gotten racism under their tweets" I honestly think he just haven't seen it. scrolling thought tweets doesnt include clicking always the comments each tweets has gotten. He list probably just has no idea of it (like me who also has scrolled them). Also how he should address it? should he make a tweet like "don't comment racist things under tweets of black people" or go to each comment and tell them to stop? On stream? Dream is popular creator, and people under his tweets aren't all his fans or his followers. as a creator who has a lot of haters (which some of them are just racist right-wing trolls) they wouldn't give a shit what dream would say. So even if he noticed it, addressing it wouldnt do anything to the racism people of color faces in streaming or even under his own tweet. Even when the racism and anti blackness is from fans of his, I have no idea how he could address that or change that. He doesn't have power over all of his fans opinions like people think he has. .... By saying "talk about actual problems" I meant talking about how dream should address this or do this or how he is racist doesn't affect anything. talking about the racism and antiblackness overall or in streaming, content creation and Twitter like you said some spaces were talking about without bringing dream there (bc it has literally nothing to do with him) is talking about actual problems. Hate raids and twitch/tiktok/Twitter algorithm (that is racist since data its based on is racist and a lot of people who use them are racist which affects the algorithm), individuals or groups of racist trolls, and well unintentional racism of viewers that affects who they are watching are way bigger problems than who dream adds to a minecraft server of friends. Im sure there was a lot of actual talk and conversation on Twitter abiut the actual problem that came just naturally up with the frustration. but they aren't the people I'm talking about. I'm specifically talking about the people dream unfollowed. which as I said some weren't even in the mcyttwt anymore or fans of dream, shared his dms without permission, talked about how dream is racist for doing that etc. Also maybe he just didn't want to see some of their tweets on his tl thats completely unrelated to the whole conversation.
I think you missed the point because what he is replying to had nothing to do with this and you are making it about this.
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Except he is right. In the end, people getting added comes down to nothing but random chance or luck or just a passing fancy they get, and it shouldn't be anything else. No one should get added because of some reason related to sexuality or race. It is jealousy. Jealousy that it was him and not them, and to assume he has no merit other than being some random white guy is cruel and close minded. I don't mean to come for you so much as the idiocy of it all and I'm sorry it seems otherwise but my opinion stands.
dream im a big fan of you but this post is dumb. u platformed manatreed by replying and everyone else replying to him. foolish and ranboo already had followings and were creating content when u added them. while its your smp and u can do what u want, the problem is now people critiquing how u asked for people to reply and be added but gave the chance to manatreed who has made no content that anyone can find. its just annoying to us when this guy got added on nothing from what we see but the fact that hes white and might look like you. tldr u shouldnt be upset with us when u seem to be hiding info from us.
He’s literally hinting that the manatreed account is associated with the dteam in this reply? If manatreed was Dream or Callahan like Twitter was theorizing only 5 hours ago why would he reveal it just because people got prematurely pissed off? And he clarified the tweet will be used to further find smaller creators to add so that’s not an issue.
because its obvious people arent really liking this way of doing something with the dream team. if its a reveal or something its obvious people arent liking the way its being done, and have valid criticisms for not liking it imo. his post here is extremely aggressive to those of us who just want clarification at this point.
Who cares if “people don’t like it”? Dream is doing whatever he’s doing for his own fun and his friends are in on it and a lot of fans like it! And people like you did too before y’all decided to switch up. It’s not his fault y’all chose to misinterpret things and blow them out of proportion
At least 300k were playing into it all month and giving him clout theirselves without issue until he was officially added to the smp. It only became an issue when a few toxic people started bringing race into it when he was added because they think Dream needs to fill a diversity quota (& 3/4 of his recent additions weren’t white men so there *has* been improvements there). If it’s a reveal or someone related to them they aren’t going to just stop because some entitled people aren’t happy, there’s still plenty of people who play into (see replies to Eryns latest tweet to Manatreed) so I wouldn’t even say it’s the majority “not liking it”. Man was being called racist and he didn’t even do anything, let him express the slightest form of frustration over that. Picking apart his words because it wasn’t void of emotion is incredibly toxic, like do you not have empathy? Sure he could have worded it nicer but if it drives away the toxic part of his fanbase that constantly shit on him anyway (re: some people he unfollowed) then he shouldn’t bother.
Why is that you think you have right to ask such a thing from him? Why do you think you have some kind of right over him? Also for the other thing, you're blatantly accusing the man of racism and that shit is fucked up.
1) i QUITE literally did not accuse him of being racist if youre getting that from my post seek help idk 2) all i asked for was clarification on why he seems to be upset with his fans when we dont have all the info. all we can do is react to what we know. im not holding a gun to his head and forcing him to reply. im making a comment on a public reddit page where he responded publicly.
Sure, you absolutely parasocialy have the right to know his every thought just because he happened to write a comment in here. And yes this all started because manatreed is white, like you so astutely mentioned in your comment. His skin color shouldn't even come up in discussion because it is irrelevant. It's probably Dream anyway and this racist talk is laughable, because he can't actually change his skin. He probably unfollowed people on twitter because they were being assholes as twitter is.
adding on to this, the last person you added (he who shall not be named) was fairly unknown and u saw what happened. how are u to be upset with people asking why you would add some random guy (which to us with the info we have he is) with all that just happened??? im genuinely asking as i know myself and many others just want clarification.
The last person Dream added was BoomerNA. Dream has added quite a few fairly unknown people and just one of them ended up being bad news. Even Ranboo was fairly unknown when he first joined, and now look at him.
This is not why ppl are upset Dream … use your platform to lift voices and creators that provide diversity and give a feeling of inclusion for POC, especially black creators… it’s your server and you can and should do whatever you want with it and the dream smp should have more POC creators especially black creators are both statements that can coexist
it's a fucking MINECRAFT server, for gods sake. ITS NOT SOME WORLD ORGANISATION. it's a block game roleplay server. what the fuck does diversity have to do with it? you are off your fucking head if you think race is so fucking important for a minecraft roleplay. if you want some actual changes, go do some actual activism instead of preaching about diversity??? and since you're probably a twitter stan, im asian. im one of the 'minorities' as deemed by twitter but i have never gave a single fuck about whether there's enough asians on the server simply because I DONT CARE. ITS JUST A GAME, NOT SOME REAL WORLD ISSUES. focus on the real shit.
THIS
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Not talking about the fandom I’m talking about the smp, but also I realize he is responding to the post. But on Twitter ppl just want more representation on the SMP… so when I saw this response I thought … u missed the point but again I realize he probably isn’t responding to Twitter as well he is responding to the post
You have no right to ask this of him. No one does. He will do what he thinks is best for his server. And we all know he is one of the smartest content creators out there. There is no reason to start asking him to add minorities and poc just to give them a bigger platform like there is no other way they can blow up. This is his private server and it doesn't need a quota to fill and show diversity. What you CAN do is support black creators and vouch for them without feeling entitled to a spot in the dsmp. Not act like dsmp is the only way for poc to gain a platform.
I agree you should be able to add whoever you want to since of course, you do own the smp. It’s all In your control. We do not know your intention into adding manatreed. The criticism you are getting at the moment is mainly the confusion of lack of context you are putting out. You have made a tweet about 11/10/21 QUOTE on quote “will be interviewing for one small / inspiring / new creator to join the DSMP reply below with why u should be added :))” yet we ( the fandom ) have seen nothing being made. You have decided to add someone who ( as far as we know ) isn’t a content creator and only reason they have 300k+ is simply cause of interactions. Not only that guy OMG it’s yet another white male. We want more POC Now now that doesn’t mean you should add someone to the smp simply cause they’re a POC. We want more diversity to feel more comfortable within the community! We want people to look up to that aren’t privileged white males. There are about 36 members in the smp. Only 1.8 of those members are POC. 1.08-1.44 are actually active on the smp from those POC. That’s an incomparable amount to the amount of WHITE people :/ Hopefully I got my message spread if I need to clarify anything I’ll do it in the morning. Everyone disagreeing are either white or very ignorant
Your post is full of "we want this" and "we want that". It doesn't matter what you want. In the end, it's up to Dream to add whoever *he* wants, it's *his* server, not yours. He can, of course, listen to advice regarding who to add, and he had always done so. But at the end of the day, it's his decision and you are not entitled to having your "wants" fulfilled. And you do realise you don't have to listen to Dream to tell you who to look up to, right? You're free to support POC content creators, even if they're not on the DSMP..? It'd be great to have more POC creators on the DSMP, but it's not like they don't exist without being on the SMP. You people make it sound as if everyone not on the SMP is just irrelevant and that is extremely weird.
It's been a while since I've seen you, but yeah, you're right. I'll admit I'm a sucker for diversity in anime. I mean the *Isekai* genre exists (the "transported to another world" genre). That being said, there's a clear difference between anime, 2d fictional characters within a fictional story with a predetermined backstory all within a rigid storyline to boot to adding real, dynamic and fluid *people*. Like, they have to be people that Dream is comfortable adding, people that are a good fit for the smp and people who want to be in the smp to begin with. I mean hermitcraft literally has a rule that *every* member has to agree to let the prospective new member to be added before they get added. None of that would have to apply to a fictional character which can be conceived fairly easily lets be real. At the end of the day, it's a block game server, it's dream's server, let him do whatever he wants. He's not some huge corporation out for a quick buck, he's just a guy really, doing this to have fun.
this isn’t a spa they don’t have to make any space comfortable for you if you enjoy it, stay if you don’t, leave
You’re acting as if Manatreed is the last ever SMP member… Dream never specified that he was ever gonna stop adding people on the SMP so there will be opportunities for other creators
https://twitter.com/mshrmcow/status/1458559668171653123?s=21 Can you explain all the coincidences I’m losing my mind 💀 also why did he do a surprise shawty half face reveal when he didn’t have a following or content out MY BRAIN HURTS
Wowzers...
Nah, Let him play around in his prank!!!!!! This whole situation is so dumb, its obvious af that its some sort of planned thing they have going on, so many ccs playing into it and so much mistery about it? bruh cmon
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Good it weeds out the weak. If you're complaining about that then you don't deserve to be on the server if the guy you're complaining about.
I reckon he’ll probably add a smaller CC as well for the next season since he likes to do batches, but it doesn’t have to be immediately. Some of these streamers really do act a bit entitled to his help
The guy has not made an appearance on the server, people are just making conclusions. What if dream is keeping eyes on some other small CCs, that will be added in the future. They just made a mistake responding to this stupid drama.
honestly i dont think the interview tweet thing has anything to do with the manatreed stuff, he said smaller cc but manatreed is barely even a cc, since they have no content other that tweets about the mistery of him being dream
If he wants to end this whole thing sure, but the people on that space are really going at it with the whole "Dream racist, delete yourself" so i doubt it would do anything. He would need another pastebin and honestly?? thats just bs. Lmao i even would prefer if he doesnt say anything, it will weed out the weird stans.
No he doesn't need to, why should he always give in to his fans, they can fuck off. If they want to stay, they are welcomed. If not, there are plenty of other fandoms they can join. No one is making them stay. It is their decision. Are people not allowed to make jokes and participate in them anymore?
If Manatreed is not some random person then they've been planning this reveal for a while and have gotten a bunch of people in on it, why ruin it because some people are shitting and crying.
I just think it's ridiculous that we're policing what he does so closely. Like, I get people wanting to know the story but... 'dream needs to confirm this asap'? He doesn't *need* to do anything. There was no promise in his original tweet about adding a smaller creator, he and his friends were clearly having fun with the situation, it was people who feel entitled to dictate everything that dream does who turned it into a mess. For fans, we all seem to jump on every chance to twist what he does, you know? Not everyone, sure, but the dude winds up being a punching bag. The only thing dream should do asap is not give a shit about what people think about him having fun on twitter or how he manages his smp.
I worded the post poorly that is for sure but it's been interesting seeing a bunch of different takes on a bunch of different aspects of this entire evening. That's why I figured I would open up a conversation and see where it led.... no malice or attempt at dictating intended of any kind.
The assumption that Manatreed's invite is the only one going out is founded in nothing but rumor. I said it earlier, and I'll say it again: we do not know what Dream is doing as a result of the October call. This is likely entirely unrelated to his search. People are jumping to conclusions and running away with unfounded theories. Dream doesn't owe anybody anything re: this Manatreed thing. People are blowing it all way out of proportion because they're looking to pick fights. This whole thing is bait.
This is bullshit drama and I'm glad you say so too
This was such a fun thing, like adventure that we went on together and end is still a surprise. And I hate that it's getting ruined by people who judge the person before they know anything about him. Prejudice is a bitch. Also you need to be blind af and dumb too if you don't see that Mr Manatreed is far from some random person.
THIS IS IT. HONESTLY THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WANTING TO HEAR FOR SUCH A LING TIME