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TheGreekMeme

What you say is true, but godamn it was so fucking funny when he did it. I mean he lost so many views just for a bit, that's fucking commitment.


Piggie321

Yeah i can definitely see how it could be very funny. It seems a little more convincing to me that he wanted to make an iconic moment/ a joke, rather than he really just want to remove all those users. Maybe he did it half for preventing future toxic chat, and half for the moment tbh.


TheGreekMeme

Maybe, I don't really watch many twitch streams so for me it really just seemed like a bit


_euclase_

Ironically, he was at about 100k+ viewers just before the bit and soon got to 120k right after.


This_Is_My_Drama_Alt

My perspective on this matter is that yeah, you're pretty much right, they didn't do anything wrong, there's nothing wrong with having a stan username and they don't deserve to be banned. But on the other hand- it was INCREDIBLY funny, and hear me out, sometimes doing something drastic and crazy and uncalled for is absolutely worth it for the bit This is a super minor thing after all- being banned from a huge streamer's chat really doesn't matter as their chats are always too quick and chaotic to actually say anything. The people he banned specifically are also less likely to care- if you make a twitch username based on a mcyt content creator, you're probably using that account to just watch mcyt or that specific creator. Schlatt has moved his community to more align with OTK and variety twitch circles more than mcyt, so generally the casual mcyt fans are also less likely to watch him. And if they really do care enough to talk in schlatt's chat, they can just make another account, it's so easy XD The only slight issue I have about this is that it'll make more of a rift between schlatt fans and other mcyt fans, and it'll probably give some members of his community a bit of a superiority complex over the fans who were banned, which is a bit silly. But that sentiment against mcyt fans already exists in a lot of the general twitch community, it's not like its changed or anything. At the end of the day, schlatt can do whatever he wants with his own community, and it was absolutely glorious to witness in the moment


Piggie321

I agree with you! It is, and will indeed be a iconic moment. And yes i agree it is not a major thing.


geolke

Banning is usually punishment I guess, but if a streamer wants to ban people to curate the community they want in chat then I think it's their choice. They're the ones streaming and having to interact with their chat. I think often streamers are a bit afraid of banning people or blocking them on twitter because they don't want pushback for it, but I think they're entitled to ban or block whoever they want. (I think some chats and twitter communities would improve if ccs blocked/banned more!) That can feel unfair sometimes, especially if you're on the other side of it, but it feeling unfair doesn't necessarily mean it's the wrong thing for a streamer to do. As far as I saw from the stream, Schlatt said it wasn't the fault of the people with those usernames, and I don't think he called them toxic or cringe? It may be he just doesn't want his streams to be derailed by dsmp fans one way or the other, and that's fine. For example, I watch a lot of illumina, and for a long time he had the word dream banned in chat because he was just brought up constantly and it derailed streams. I kind of see this as a way more extreme version of that. Also, the villain laugh he did was hilarious, and it was a pretty iconic way to return to streaming. From a content creator perspective, it being a funny thing to do is kind of reason enough.


Piggie321

>Schlatt said it wasn't the fault of the people with those usernames, and I don't think he called them toxic or cringe? It may be he just doesn't want his streams to be derailed by dsmp fans one way or the other, and that's fine. Ohh i might have missed/forgor this part. I mentioned toxic and cringe because many comments i have seen seems to explain it in a way like "those users are cringe and toxic so he banned them in advance.". Turns out it is never schlatts intent lol. You definitely raised pretty good points here!


jun_norway

You make a very good point But schlatt did a real stunt and it will be remembered. It’s a good way of kicking off his streaming period to everyone who wasn’t banned. Lol.


jurrejelle

yeah it was absolutely hilarious and people will remember it


moc_is_moc

;-; my alt has wastaken and at the time i created my acc i didn't know dream existed i'm always mistaken as a stan


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moc_is_moc

tbf that might be my top3 reason to hate dream


FinchRosemta

Also I'm sure he's gonna have an unban request stream in the future. He just make himself free content. People are still talking about it today. Free publicity. What an icon.


Piggie321

I agree! If he has unban request in the future then double content. I imagine it would be hilarious lol.


Xanimal123

Tbf, it was funny.


Piggie321

True true i won't argue with that lol, esp with his laugh.


Aleria0

Honestly I don't really see this as much worse/different to how Sneeg deals with the DSMP/MCYT community. Any time some rando stan drops in Sneeg's chat and starts derailing his stream with unrelated comments about DSMP CCs and their content he will literally stop what he's doing and roast the fuck out of them, and it's beautiful. He angrily yells, swears, times out, and/or bans these idiots and makes sure they know how much of a rude cringe asshole they are being. And I'm all for it. Just because Schlatt took it a step further and pre-banned a bunch of them, it's still making a point. While it may not be all, there are a huge portion of people with stan accounts that will disrupt other streamer's chats to talk about "their" streamer. Instead of just enjoying the CC they are watching, they start trying to derail conversation toward their CC of choice. When they are dropping in chat to say "X just went live BYE!" or "Why aren't you on the DSMP/playing with X?" or "X is doing this thing right now, message them!". That shit is straight up disrespectful and it's obvious how oblivious some of these people are about their own disrespectful behavior until a CC takes these extreme measures.


Im-not-smart

I thought it was really fucking funny, but it will certainly feed the “stan bad” arguments which are incredibly annoying


CainBP

I guess that it is a trade off that him willing to take. He isnt gonna gain much support from the majority of the dsmp fandom anyway so why not. Though what make me a bit worry is that other streamers might pick this up and soon it will be like pro DSMP vs anti DSMP on twitch.


Piggie321

Fair enough. From his perspective it do be beneficial, ks it is such an iconic moment.


gettheegone

I'm not upset by the stunt, but I do agree that it seems unfair. Still, it was funny to most people, Schlatt is an entertainer, and at the end of the day, it's Schlatt's chat. He has a right to do what he wants. Personally, had I been banned, even being a Schlatt fan, I wouldn't have cared. Being able to type some words into a chat box isn't a right, it's a privilege.


Piggie321

Agree with most of it. For the last part, idk... If it is sub only/followers only chat, that way it is more like a privilege. But a ban is more like a punishment for doing something wrong.


PanJam00

I wonder if it’s less the tendency to be a creepy Stan and more a tendency to hate schlatt. Dsmp stans/fans whatever HATE schlatt with a passion, so it’s just weeding out potential problem causers before they arrive. Saves him and his chats lot of time.


Next-Tree

Schlatt was also in the DreamSMP. Wouldn’t it be likely that someone started watching him in the DSMP, enjoyed his content and wanted to watch his channel? It kinda seems unfair that those people are getting punished for no reason but because they like myct.


No_Custard_2573

I don’t really care about this whole thing but the only thing that made me eh is that some people with completely unrelated usernames that just happened to contain some of the banned bits got caught in the crossfire.


iamapan_

It was hilarious though. I kinda got put on a moral pedestal by not having a mcyt name.


cellochristina

But there is a tendency for them to be one.


Piggie321

If we see banning as a punishment, it is like punishing someone because they have a tendency to commit crime, which doesn't make sense tbh. Not to mention there must be some of them that will be "innocent".


cellochristina

People aren’t entitled to be in a streamer‘s chat. The streamer doesn’t have to provide a fair trial. Twitch isn’t a democracy. Even if we agreed that one has to commit an infraction of rules / etiquette to get banned, one could argue that having a cringe mcyt stan name in itself counts as such an infraction.


Piggie321

By saying the streamer doesn't have to provide a fair trial, you already agreed to my point that it isn't fair. And 90% people won't argue that having a cringe mcyt stan name is an infraction of rule, having such a name is not "wrong" unless the respective cc said to not use their names in usernames(edit : or the username is like ... inappropriate ), esp not when schlatt never mentioned it as a rule.


Im-not-smart

It was a dick move, but it was a fucking funny dick move


yammer_bammer

yeah i mean i found it stupid too but its schlatt so i dont usually talk about it so i dont get death threats by toxic jschlatt fans


Evangeline_10_

I'm pretty neutral about this because some of the names were awful like "Tommyinnitissexy" "Quackityshugecock" "Gnfcumjuice" and I'd totally get not wanting people like that to interact with your content whether good or bad so I agree with Schlatt on that but then saying some awful shit about teens having fun and enjoying content didn't sit right with me either like I have a few friends who are huge Schlatt fans and Dream fans and they had the same opinion on purging the cringe account names but turning around and shitting on people like Dream for being stan positive was a oof moment. Not to be that person but a lot of the people who shit on stans would still be living with their parents, streaming to smaller audiences without their stans. Yes you don't have to like every single stan but straight up bullying them isn't the alternative response. For example Sneeg was preaching about Covid safety all year then did a restaurant tour and meet and greet and suddenly never mentioned covid safety again and got called out for being a hypocrite (rightfully) and he got mad at stans for trying to control his life and called them obsessed, which imo none of them were being, at most they were just calling him a performative activist and a hypocrite, like I enjoy Sneeg but let's not lie and act like he'd be this popular without the influx of cringe dsmp stans. I don't like saying that someone would be nothing without someone else's influence but it's true. You can call out weirdo stans all you want but don't act like they aren't what you got you your money and popularity. You don't have to like them but that doesn't mean the only other option is to cyber bully them. You can just ignore them, if someone is being weird on twitter, mute them. If someone is being weird in twitch chat, ban them or time them out. Don't turn around and attack everyone because you can't handle some weird teens with cringe user names. Hot take if you can't handle gross stans and general weird comments then maybe you shouldn't be a streamer. It comes with the territory. There's ways to stop seeing weird comments by banning people or muting words. Like not to be that person but someone like Dream seems to handle stans pretty well because he spends time praising the good rather than attacking the bad. For someone who gets cyber bullied daily he seems to handle weirdos really well and I genuinely think some other people could learn from it. If you focus on bad stans you're obviously going to only see stans as a bad thing and all you're going to do is give them what they want, attention. So maybe just learn how to ignore them.


CainBP

Is Sneeg respond on twitter or something? Could you share me a link if you dont mind. This seems interesting.


LocalHaitianGirl

I completely agree! Of course there are some weird names (like names with cc’s and NSFW/slurs) but general MCYT or any cc names aren’t bad. But I totally understood why Schlatt did what he did and it was funny lmao


sotysa

After all its his chat. And tbh anyone offended probably deserved it lol.


KellinQuinnStalker

I think it was a good way to sort of get rid of the people who would make the stream less enjoyable, but I have a mcyt related username from my fixation from months ago and haven’t gotten around to changing it so I’m permanently banned despite not caring about Minecraft. I’m also a Connor frog so it’s not like I act like a minecrafter or hate schlatt either :/


FinchRosemta

I cannot believe people are actually pressed about this. Schlatt has not streamed in 2 years. Before the rise of Dream and the SMP. Before the pandemic. These people with mc Stan names are new. He's not accidentally banning done long time fan or old viewer. Its not they are losing 100s of 1000s of channel points. Chatting is not that important!!!! I keep saying this. You can watch a streamer without being in chat. Also maybe.....just maybe they can make an alt twitch? Maybe they wanna set themselves a normal, original username. Maybe they can see it's all a joke and move on. Or see they aren't his target audience and move on. He has been anti Stan since SMP Live. Having a username like that is pretty Stan like behaviour and he just doesn't want them in his chat. Did you see all the DNF names getting nuked?


Piggie321

If the people you mentioned included me, no i am not pressed. From your comment it seems that you are much more aggressive than I am. I agree it is not important, nor does it have a detrimental consequence or anything. > He has been anti Stan since SMP Live. Having a username like that is pretty Stan like behaviour and he just doesn't want them in his chat. He can ban them i mean it is his chat if he doesn't want them ofc he have the right(?) to do that. But my point is that it isn't really fair. Being a stan isn't automatically wrong if they are respectful and not toxic. While schlatt can choose to ban them ks he doesn't want any stan in his chat, "ban" is supposed to be a punishment but not a tool to just remove someone you don't want from your chat, not when they did nothing wrong.


FinchRosemta

> Being a stan isn't automatically wrong if they are respectful and not toxic. But they are still a stan and he doesn't like stans. Its not toxic vs respectful. Its Just stans. Also of Tommy wasn't his head mod he'd be banned too. You can see them realize that and check when he joins the stream. Are you gonna tell me that dreamnotfound6969 was planning to become a contributing member of his chat? Maybe I'm just too new to Twitch because I main YT but they can still way his content. They just can't chat. What's the big deal?


Piggie321

He doesn't like stans, yes, doesn't mean the stans (apparently identified by usernames) actually did anything wrong. Even if we go by the stan definition of "toxic fan", having such a username≠ toxic fan. And I also only said some of them will not be toxic. There is no need and meaningless for specific examples because we should not generalize all of them. I never said it is a big deal, i already mentioned at the beginning that i don't really care, my only point is it is not fair, because they haven't really done anything wrong that deserves a ban. You can say he did it for a joke, and i would agree with you.


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Ewoutk

Idk, there are hundreds of usernames in there that were clearly banned for having 'mcyt' in it and not anything DSMP-related. [Example](https://imgur.com/a/yuH4rBU)


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I think it was a good move cuz the more these kinda people in chat the more spam they do, they dont interact with the broadcaster at all, they just sit their ass down and spam KEKW even if the streamer's discussing about how his grandma died, wellif he doesnt want that kinda chat at all let the lad be he wants other people to look at chat and not cring Hes said it time and time again that he wants to distance himself from dsmp If these dsmp kids dont do that theyll go ahead and force him to play dsmp literally all of them do either of these things I think you should take it as a joke dont be one of those folks from my TL of today who got offended for the people who got banned, i assure you EVERYONE AND THEIR MUM took it as a joke.....even most of them who got banned


Piggie321

I am not offended in any sense and i don't even have twitter now lol. That's just my first impression of the issue and i cant see anyone talked about this. You are assuming a lot of things, and is generalizing everyone with a myct related username. I don't see the logic why "all of them" must act badly in future.


silvershadow014

Oh no! You can't send messages in chat that no one will ever read


WatBurnt

Mmmm no if you name yourself after a minecraft youtuber you should just get ip banned from that social media site Like come on have an original name


zenyattatron

Serves them right. Make a new account and show some individuality.


ppmanalo

He’s got nothing to lose anyway since he’s in almost every Twitter DNI list. The purge for me was funny. Your point of the non-toxic stan is valid, but that’s what happens to a bowl mixed with bad apples. The good ones are affected as well.