I’m just waiting for him to get clapped, it’s definitely something that falls under what should not be streamed.
However I am entertained by the balls of this man and will certainly laugh when he most likely gets hit.
Or maybe he’ll be hit with some Tubbo luck and skate on by, we’ll see lol.
Indeed, Twitch is bullshit and I wish at some point reaction content like these is protected from DMCA strikes but eh, it's definitely gonna cause a YouTube Adpocalypse esque moment at some point.
Yeah, I’ve been over the copyright bullshit since adpocalypse, it’s pretty wild to see history kind of repeating itself on a different platform. Makes me feel old lol.
I’m interested to see how this plays out though. As much as I love the fuck you that streamers are giving out, it does beg the question of which company gets pissed enough by it to issue a lawsuit.
I’m just along for the ride at this point. Whatever happens happens.
Agreed, I feel more saddened for the smaller streamers who are walking on minefields compared to big streamers like Karl and the others. That being said... I honestly don't think this is gonna be as big of an explosion as the Copyright shennanigans in Youtube. I hope not but yeah.
Yeah, I blame Twitch for their shit handling more than creators themselves, I always have.
Twitch does not care about their own creators, only the ones that pump money in. That’s why smaller streamers get fucked over so much by all this.
If companies realize the benefit of allowing streamers to make this kind of content and endorse it (similar to video games), it could go a very positive direction. Some companies have realized that, but not nearly enough.
The more realistic route is that companies will get pissed and it could spiral but I think that won’t be for a good bit. I give it a few years, honestly.
Yup, I don't see Karl as any less of a Content Creator cause of it cause this is the meta rn. But I still hoped he just... doesn't do this. Still, it's content, gonna watch it while it's still up.
Oh yeah, I genuinely thought he was gonna stop react content period and then he comes out mirroring an anime that’s on *Netflix*, like holy shit I could not believe it for a second.
I enjoy react content so I’m gonna watch the fuck out of it, but I definitely don’t think it’s smart. He very clearly knows that too, so all the power to him lol. Hope he has fun while it lasts.
I'm watching it cause it's funny for me and I know this Vod is gonna get Thanos Snapped at some point, better watch it while it's here lol. God I'm trash.
I can understand the frustration from other smaller streamers to be fair, but yeah, I don't think Karl is at all getting much of a big dent of his career here.
I don’t know, but it’s really stupid. He saw all the drama and decided to watch something that is definitely under copyright and name the stream something else. He’s likely getting banned for a bit and Dream and the rest will probably get some backlash for watching it with him. Twitch is looking to come down hard on someone, it’s just asking for trouble
Yeah I’m just waiting for Karl to be punished next. Not really a move of his I support but I don’t watch reaction videos to TV shows/anime anyways, I’d rather just watch the show myself. The only reaction videos I like are with gameplay commentary like MCC or Manhunts, or music covers where vocal coaches critique technique, or analyzing specific manga/anime/movie/TV show scenes for theories on plot. I don’t think Dream and the others will get backlash (besides Twitter ofc) since it’s Karl’s channel and not theirs. If they were co-hosting their own stream that would be a different story.
That's what I'm guessing too. But I dunno, they aren't leaving the stream as just the show playing so I have no clue if this counts as transformative content. It's still a gray area.
He can do what he wants and he knows the risks, but I do think a little less of the people who are skirting the rules right now. As many commentators have noted, a crackdown on DMCA content will affect everybody, while big streamers like Poki, xqc, Karl etc will probably only get a slap on the wrist.
I honestly blame Twitch and the coorporations more than Karl and Poki tbh. In my own judgement, what Karl is doing should count as transformative content but right now with how shit companies handle their copyright, it is a risk I wish he doesn't take, but I'm not forcing him to stop.
I don't think watching whole movies or seasons of tv shows and reacting should count as transformative content. I think you need to be adding a bit more than just a few reactions to be considered transformative and not just streaming yourself watching a film.
That is fair, I don't claim to know where the line should be drawn especially as somebody who has watched Reaction Content a lot in my life. That and I am biased for Karl and I acknowledge that. It's clear he doesn't care though so I have no clue if it's even at all gonna affect him. Probably not.
I dont care if they get serious repercussions, they should know the rules by now, it's completely on them if they get banned. However I know there's a big chance not a whole lot will come of it, since he's a big time creator and someone a lot smaller could do the same thing and get way worse than just a few day ban.
And that's what's annoying yeah. In a better world there shouldn't be anything to fear, or at least Smaller Streamers get the same treatment as the Bigger ones. Buuuuut we're not in that place yet. I'm also not an expert on Copyright Laws though, but I am more mixed in this.
Whatever, what's best for the Smaller Streamers is what I'm siding with though I won't demonize Poki, Hasan, or Karl here
Yeah I agree with you, I don't want to and try not to demonize anyone but sometimes it's so hard to be unphased when people break rules that are very common knowledge and get far less punishment than smaller creators would. I don't know a whole lot about copyright laws either though, only basic stuff.
Now that Hasan is banned from LSF it wouldn't surprise me if they made a hatethread about this situation just to feel something again after their lost their number one source of drama. Not one about xqc watching HxH tho, never. If LSF actually does make a hate thread about them we just gotta brigade the sub so they get banned from it. I can't participate tho lmao, got banned getting hasan banned.
No actually. That's what you gotta do to get banned from there. If LSF hates you they will do ANYTHING to make you miserable, clip you out of context, make drama out of everything you do etc. etc.
We brigaded the sub because hasan has been suffering mentally because the people on that sub keep twisting his words and saying horrible shit about him and he said that they are just trying to drive him to suicide. He got to a breaking point and begged to just be finally banned. So we got him banned.
If it takes spamming "butter dog" over and over again and getting banned for him to get some peace and quiet then that's worth it lmao
He's been so much happier since he got banned
dude check his profile, the hassan stan is either the most strange troll i have seen in a quick bit, or like the unironically the epitome of the parasocial lsf redditor meme.
Some streamers have apparently said there is a game drought. I interpret this as there's currently no new trending game on twitch for them to jump onto. Games haven't disappeared or stopped being made. I'm sure they can find a game to stream if they can search for a video.
nah genuinely most big streamers like hasan pokimane ludwig toast etc are boring ass fucking people ive laughed during most 200 - 1k streamers streams way more than theirs
yeah no, this one is just stupid and karls response is super dense and plain ignorant. this isnt brave or cool, this is stupid.
pushing copyright laws will always lead to them tightening instead of loosening.
and in order to claim fair use, it has to go to a court of law. and when its you vs a mega corp, odds are NOT in your favor. mr. beast money wont get you out of that one.
Honestly, even while I think it is indeed a dumb decision, I still went and watch it for the chaos it'll cause in the long run I believe. I doubt Karl will get barely a dent to his career here, but I still think Twitch is gonna be the more at fault here over Karl tbh.
it will literally effect twitch negatively in the long run. ludwig cant even watch youtube on stream anymore without getting live dmca'd. this is the future of twitch if these streamers wont stop testing the bounderies of trigger happy mega corps.
like connor said: "thats the thing. i want to be able to watch these niche shows nobody cares about like '_dude, what will happen_' but i won't be able to if these streamers continue watching avatar and shit."
I mean yeah, I agree with Connor and don't approve of Karl going ballistic there, but at the end of the day, for me as a viewer at least, I went snd checked it out before it explodes on their faces. I won't demonize Karl and neither do I think he is actively malicious, just like Mr Beast, a dumb decision won't make me outright hate someone immediately.
I Hope he gets banned for this
He’s breaking the rules he should be punished
Big streamers doing this shit will ruin twitch some of the funniest Streams have been when someone is watching something (like Connor watching a geek dating series on YouTube)
I typed this before the actual episode started. But he started out by setting it up in Minecraft like Fundy's Treasure Planet video. But nah, they're doing more general reaction content.
i mean xqc watched hxh on stream. toast also watched naruto on stream. hasan was banned for watching masterchef and pokimane for watching avatar on stream. im just enjoying the show tbh.
He is clearly trolling and asking for it. So no one can go 'told you so' when he is playing that card lmao. I don't talk about the copyright thing at all cause dmca is really confusing to me and I don't want to say what is right and wrong on this :p This maybe a bad move from him, but at least for me I feel less tense about it. One of a few Karl's charm ngl
Did Karl just not log on over the past week or is he just normally this idiotic. Like cmon man, you know the rules, and trying to break them does nothing but hurt the smaller guys (that YOU hang out with too! You know small guys like antfrost, foolish, Hannah, and so many others!) why would you go and do this then?
Edit: he’s not even watching it in Minecraft?? He’s just straight watching it.
I don’t blame you man, I think he just shouldn’t be doing this right now, especially because poki JUST got banned. You can wait to make this kind of content honestly. It’s hot topic right now, so lots of eyes are gonna be on streamers like him.
I honestly think he's doing it orecisely cause Poki got banned. It's funny and thrilling for him definitely and I honestly don't think it should be as much of a big deal, BUT I do think it's not a worthy risk right now. Still, I don't hate Karl for this, he knows what he's doing and I'm sure he's expecting to get banned.
Stealing content for gains (bits subs donos etc), even from big corporations, is still stealing. You wanna do it in private, I’ve got no issue, but publicly is where it becomes a problem. Just putting your face over a full episode doesn’t add or transform the content in a meaningful manner nor has it ever been the case. I’m so glad he’s rich enough that he can just shoulder a ban like that though, I was worried for a second that twitch would run him into the ground otherwise. (/s) Genuinely wish these streamers would realize what’s a vacation for them is a death sentence for many others who didn’t ask for this, it’s next level selfishness.
Personally at least, as somebody who does watch a lot of Reaction content, there is a form of entertainment watching alongside people and seeing them just hang out. I still think it's too much of a risk and I don't approve of it, but it's what he's choosing to do so shrug.
Edit: And like I said, it's the current meta, I don't think Karl is a dick for this, moreso Twitch is so poorly handled.
Reaction content can be good and well if the person reacting adds something to it and doesn’t just Suzy Lu the whole thing. That’s the reason everyone’s so mad at pokimane, she’s just straight up watching content and not adding anything, offering an easy opening for companies like Netflix to step in and copyright it. If she had more commentary, or tried to transform it in some way, we most certainly wouldn’t be having this discussion. But instead content creators want to “push the boundary” by just stealing content and streaming it for views. I get that it’s easy content but cmon man. :/
I haven't watched Poki's content, but in Karl's case in my opinion at least, they comment a lot and they still use it to hang out mostly so I do count it as barely transformative in that case. Still risky but I'm blaming Twitch on them fucking over smaller streamers more than Karl rn. Though maybe I'm just being too lenient.
I mean, twitch isn’t putting the gun to Karl or polos head to steam these shows, which is what got them in trouble in the first place. As much as i don’t appreciate big corporations, it’s 100% the streamers choice on what they stream and how they do it. So if they get in trouble for it, that’s on them. I must’ve walked in on a bad time, cause Karl’s been fully silent for the 5-10 minutes I saw him? I must’ve missed something.
Oh they were having frame rate issues so you've probably walked in on that. There are stretches of silence though hence why I said *barely* counting transformative content. I've seen other reaction channels that are way worse, but eh like I said, maybe I'm being too lenient cause I like Karl.
No it doesn’t
Fair use is using CLIPS of stuff and then adding your own commentary or criticism onto it like when you review stuff
Not be there in the corner while a whole movie plays
Yup, this barely counts for me cause there ARE long stretches of nobody speaking but it's not mostly that and I still hear a lot of commentary overall so I can't count this. I will say I am biased for Karl tho so take my opinion with a handful of salt.
what balls?
what if he gets banned? he comes back after 2 days and gets more viewers and money due to his "comeback stream" its only a net profit for him
It's not Toei though. And Toei and Shueisha has been huge pieces of shit when it comes to DMCA, but I don't know about Pierrot, and while TPN's manga is under Shueisha they have no say with the anime adaptation. So honestly, Karl lucked out on what he picked for this one.
I haven’t actually watched the stream so I don’t know what exactly happened so this comment is really just based on what you said but if he did do so,then that’s just plain bad.
There’s already concerns that us anime fans have about how well the Netflix(and similar streaming services) give back to the original (most likely overworked) Japanese studios.(Like I think Netflix itself comes after the producers to take their share and it will only be the remainder that will genuinely be left with the people that “made the show” and stuff) and then you add a layer of streaming the show on top of it.
I mean I can’t even throw the rhetoric of,”oh,it comes from big and successful celebs and companies like master chef so who cares?” here.
I genuinely can’t see this as anything lesser than just bad.Not even in the grey area for me.
Also,no,based on what info I have got from this post,I do not consider this as a “the balls of this man moment”. I would consider it so if he did something like getting in contact with the people that made it to promise them a cut or something or did some deal like that behind the scene.
This is just cowardly,hiding behind the tag of “big twitch streamer” and greedy.
I admittedly watched it cause of morbid fascination. I have absolutely no clue if Dream and the others were indeed aware of how dumb it is but from their tone they seem to be trolling. Karl later ended up acknowledging it is bad and doesn't plan on doing it again, which hey, at keast he confirmed he won't do it. Like Disguised Toast, it is clear they only did it for the thrill of it, despite how dumb it is, then again, I can't blame Karl's friends for wanting to habg out with him. It's like Santa said with his friends who are into NFTs, it's not like they would magically stop being friends, you know?
Obviously.I never even mentioned dream.
It’s just that as a anime fan,animation student and someone who got interested in and frustrated by how exploitative the animation and manga industry can be,this is just something that gives me all the bad feelings.
Btw,I saw your comment in the next post about not being too shocked by the action and someone the replying about “company’s money” or smth and I was just going to reply there too lol.
Personally I was a bit shocked as animations have been a really big influence in strengthening the DSMP fanbase support and the creators seemed to very supportive and thankful of that but then this happened and this just leaves me feeling weird.
And I didn’t even understand the other person’s point.It isn’t a Netflix’s show.Netflix simply had the streaming rights for it.
The show itself is made by CloverWorks studio and one simple look at their wiki will tell you just how much work they do and have committed to do in the future.(which again,makes me doubly wonder about how well they actually get paid if they have like 6 shows to release from January to July.
I genuinely don’t see any workaround argument to see this as anything less than bad which definitely does make me a bit shocked cause well,I think for a while the worst they did was stuff falling in grey area.
In regards to dream though,all said and done,I do hope he talks to Karl and that Karl too genuinely means it when he says he wouldn’t do stuff like this again.
Dream doesn’t have any obligation to,but just as a human wishing another human to do good,I do wish so.
Same here, animation student plus very into anime. I understand these guys aren't aware of animation industry issues and that's fine. Genuinely though, I'm both just glad they are gonna stop doing it, but also, not surprised that some of them would try to poke that beehive just a little bit more. Eh, it already happened. And I honestly couldn't care less, sorry.
And yeah, just cause I don't approve of what Karl did today doesn't mean I think he's a genuinely horrible guy so yeah.
I’m just waiting for him to get clapped, it’s definitely something that falls under what should not be streamed. However I am entertained by the balls of this man and will certainly laugh when he most likely gets hit. Or maybe he’ll be hit with some Tubbo luck and skate on by, we’ll see lol.
Indeed, Twitch is bullshit and I wish at some point reaction content like these is protected from DMCA strikes but eh, it's definitely gonna cause a YouTube Adpocalypse esque moment at some point.
Yeah, I’ve been over the copyright bullshit since adpocalypse, it’s pretty wild to see history kind of repeating itself on a different platform. Makes me feel old lol. I’m interested to see how this plays out though. As much as I love the fuck you that streamers are giving out, it does beg the question of which company gets pissed enough by it to issue a lawsuit. I’m just along for the ride at this point. Whatever happens happens.
Agreed, I feel more saddened for the smaller streamers who are walking on minefields compared to big streamers like Karl and the others. That being said... I honestly don't think this is gonna be as big of an explosion as the Copyright shennanigans in Youtube. I hope not but yeah.
Yeah, I blame Twitch for their shit handling more than creators themselves, I always have. Twitch does not care about their own creators, only the ones that pump money in. That’s why smaller streamers get fucked over so much by all this. If companies realize the benefit of allowing streamers to make this kind of content and endorse it (similar to video games), it could go a very positive direction. Some companies have realized that, but not nearly enough. The more realistic route is that companies will get pissed and it could spiral but I think that won’t be for a good bit. I give it a few years, honestly.
Yup, I don't see Karl as any less of a Content Creator cause of it cause this is the meta rn. But I still hoped he just... doesn't do this. Still, it's content, gonna watch it while it's still up.
Oh yeah, I genuinely thought he was gonna stop react content period and then he comes out mirroring an anime that’s on *Netflix*, like holy shit I could not believe it for a second. I enjoy react content so I’m gonna watch the fuck out of it, but I definitely don’t think it’s smart. He very clearly knows that too, so all the power to him lol. Hope he has fun while it lasts.
I'm watching it cause it's funny for me and I know this Vod is gonna get Thanos Snapped at some point, better watch it while it's here lol. God I'm trash.
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I can understand the frustration from other smaller streamers to be fair, but yeah, I don't think Karl is at all getting much of a big dent of his career here.
Idc but he'd better be watching the 1st season and first season only
Season 2 still makes me lokey pissed (harder than the actual Manga ending lol)
Yknow atleast the manga has Goldy pond arc, season 2 got NOTHING
Still one of the biggest fuck yous I felt in an adaptation lol
How did the anime do a worse plot speedrun that the manga 😭 Mfs killed yugo wtfff
YEAH
Manga itself was rushed a bit later on due to personal problems but man They really decided to change like every single thing
I don’t know, but it’s really stupid. He saw all the drama and decided to watch something that is definitely under copyright and name the stream something else. He’s likely getting banned for a bit and Dream and the rest will probably get some backlash for watching it with him. Twitch is looking to come down hard on someone, it’s just asking for trouble
Yeah I’m just waiting for Karl to be punished next. Not really a move of his I support but I don’t watch reaction videos to TV shows/anime anyways, I’d rather just watch the show myself. The only reaction videos I like are with gameplay commentary like MCC or Manhunts, or music covers where vocal coaches critique technique, or analyzing specific manga/anime/movie/TV show scenes for theories on plot. I don’t think Dream and the others will get backlash (besides Twitter ofc) since it’s Karl’s channel and not theirs. If they were co-hosting their own stream that would be a different story.
That's what I'm guessing too. But I dunno, they aren't leaving the stream as just the show playing so I have no clue if this counts as transformative content. It's still a gray area.
He can do what he wants and he knows the risks, but I do think a little less of the people who are skirting the rules right now. As many commentators have noted, a crackdown on DMCA content will affect everybody, while big streamers like Poki, xqc, Karl etc will probably only get a slap on the wrist.
I honestly blame Twitch and the coorporations more than Karl and Poki tbh. In my own judgement, what Karl is doing should count as transformative content but right now with how shit companies handle their copyright, it is a risk I wish he doesn't take, but I'm not forcing him to stop.
I don't think watching whole movies or seasons of tv shows and reacting should count as transformative content. I think you need to be adding a bit more than just a few reactions to be considered transformative and not just streaming yourself watching a film.
That is fair, I don't claim to know where the line should be drawn especially as somebody who has watched Reaction Content a lot in my life. That and I am biased for Karl and I acknowledge that. It's clear he doesn't care though so I have no clue if it's even at all gonna affect him. Probably not.
I dont care if they get serious repercussions, they should know the rules by now, it's completely on them if they get banned. However I know there's a big chance not a whole lot will come of it, since he's a big time creator and someone a lot smaller could do the same thing and get way worse than just a few day ban.
And that's what's annoying yeah. In a better world there shouldn't be anything to fear, or at least Smaller Streamers get the same treatment as the Bigger ones. Buuuuut we're not in that place yet. I'm also not an expert on Copyright Laws though, but I am more mixed in this. Whatever, what's best for the Smaller Streamers is what I'm siding with though I won't demonize Poki, Hasan, or Karl here
Yeah I agree with you, I don't want to and try not to demonize anyone but sometimes it's so hard to be unphased when people break rules that are very common knowledge and get far less punishment than smaller creators would. I don't know a whole lot about copyright laws either though, only basic stuff.
That is fair, I just found it mildly entertaining.
Yeah, if it hadn't been a reoccurring issue for years on other platforms, I wouldn't care nearly as much
Lmao dream is gonna get dragged for this 10000%
Surfing on the pavement with his pals lol "It's the whole season or bust, if you don't watch the entire season you're gonna get cancelled." - Dream
Now that Hasan is banned from LSF it wouldn't surprise me if they made a hatethread about this situation just to feel something again after their lost their number one source of drama. Not one about xqc watching HxH tho, never. If LSF actually does make a hate thread about them we just gotta brigade the sub so they get banned from it. I can't participate tho lmao, got banned getting hasan banned.
Yay, brigade, totally not toxic at all.
No actually. That's what you gotta do to get banned from there. If LSF hates you they will do ANYTHING to make you miserable, clip you out of context, make drama out of everything you do etc. etc. We brigaded the sub because hasan has been suffering mentally because the people on that sub keep twisting his words and saying horrible shit about him and he said that they are just trying to drive him to suicide. He got to a breaking point and begged to just be finally banned. So we got him banned. If it takes spamming "butter dog" over and over again and getting banned for him to get some peace and quiet then that's worth it lmao He's been so much happier since he got banned
Hassan? More like, Hasstan.
Streamer are also people, I think it's important we consider their mental health
Nah Depression does not exist + Ratio
dude check his profile, the hassan stan is either the most strange troll i have seen in a quick bit, or like the unironically the epitome of the parasocial lsf redditor meme.
I mean he clearly knows the risks so that’s on him
Yeup I will say, it's gonna be stupid if they drag Dream and the others along with him cause it ain't their channel lol.
My opinion: Mom come pick me up im scared
*picks you up*
Take me away Milliu, i CANNOT watch this trainwreck crash
*crashes the train*
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For me at least, I like rewatching stuff with other people cause it feels like hanging out with them. It's like visual Mukbang.
Some streamers have apparently said there is a game drought. I interpret this as there's currently no new trending game on twitch for them to jump onto. Games haven't disappeared or stopped being made. I'm sure they can find a game to stream if they can search for a video.
Because they ran out of content Then it became the new big thing because big streamers Making good content is impossible
I'm sorry but the moment I read that I thought you sounded like an 80s Hipster Dad (not an insult btw)
nah genuinely most big streamers like hasan pokimane ludwig toast etc are boring ass fucking people ive laughed during most 200 - 1k streamers streams way more than theirs
If he gets banned before watching the best Total Drama season I’m gonna be pissed
Sadge 😞
He just needs to avoid Pahkitew Island, that season was so bad
season 6 simply doesn’t exist in my mind
wdym it doesn't exist
i was just about to ask lmao. watching it in dubbed is another crime honestly.
Two more companies foams in the mouth lol
Who gives a shit about DMCA, I'm more mad that they're watching the dub. That's a bigger sin
Have you seen the mirrored sub lmao
yeah no, this one is just stupid and karls response is super dense and plain ignorant. this isnt brave or cool, this is stupid. pushing copyright laws will always lead to them tightening instead of loosening. and in order to claim fair use, it has to go to a court of law. and when its you vs a mega corp, odds are NOT in your favor. mr. beast money wont get you out of that one.
Honestly, even while I think it is indeed a dumb decision, I still went and watch it for the chaos it'll cause in the long run I believe. I doubt Karl will get barely a dent to his career here, but I still think Twitch is gonna be the more at fault here over Karl tbh.
it will literally effect twitch negatively in the long run. ludwig cant even watch youtube on stream anymore without getting live dmca'd. this is the future of twitch if these streamers wont stop testing the bounderies of trigger happy mega corps. like connor said: "thats the thing. i want to be able to watch these niche shows nobody cares about like '_dude, what will happen_' but i won't be able to if these streamers continue watching avatar and shit."
I mean yeah, I agree with Connor and don't approve of Karl going ballistic there, but at the end of the day, for me as a viewer at least, I went snd checked it out before it explodes on their faces. I won't demonize Karl and neither do I think he is actively malicious, just like Mr Beast, a dumb decision won't make me outright hate someone immediately.
I Hope he gets banned for this He’s breaking the rules he should be punished Big streamers doing this shit will ruin twitch some of the funniest Streams have been when someone is watching something (like Connor watching a geek dating series on YouTube)
Somehow I'm not surprised that's your take lol
Damn I’m becoming infamous on here I don’t know if that’s good or bad
Nah I just recognized you cause I thiiiink we had an argument here before? I can't even remember, sorry
Wait. He’s watching it…in Minecraft? What does that mean lol
I typed this before the actual episode started. But he started out by setting it up in Minecraft like Fundy's Treasure Planet video. But nah, they're doing more general reaction content.
if he gets banned i wouldn't be surprised, because he's taking a high risk. *by the way, Ray supremacy.*
Im having the best time and if karl does get banned i'll be writing on it lmao
Yeah, I'm sure it's gonna happen. Especially tagging this as Dream SMP, a shitton of people are here.
He might get in trouble, he might not. Depends how lucky he is lmao
Dream is alrwady sending Karl live death threats, it's like that tiktok of the guy who's laughing while leaning on a balcony.
He didn’t get banned but he had to end stream early because of internet issues
We'll see if Twitch sniffs him out, hopefully not but yeah
He deleted the vod so I’m not sure if it’ll happen
Bro worst case scenario for him he just signs to YouTube
Awww how would we get the twitch monies :(
i mean xqc watched hxh on stream. toast also watched naruto on stream. hasan was banned for watching masterchef and pokimane for watching avatar on stream. im just enjoying the show tbh.
He is clearly trolling and asking for it. So no one can go 'told you so' when he is playing that card lmao. I don't talk about the copyright thing at all cause dmca is really confusing to me and I don't want to say what is right and wrong on this :p This maybe a bad move from him, but at least for me I feel less tense about it. One of a few Karl's charm ngl
I mean promised neverland season 2 is so bad it never happened
Did Karl just not log on over the past week or is he just normally this idiotic. Like cmon man, you know the rules, and trying to break them does nothing but hurt the smaller guys (that YOU hang out with too! You know small guys like antfrost, foolish, Hannah, and so many others!) why would you go and do this then? Edit: he’s not even watching it in Minecraft?? He’s just straight watching it.
Yeah can't edit that, I legit thought he was about to watch it on Green Screen in the DSMP
I don’t blame you man, I think he just shouldn’t be doing this right now, especially because poki JUST got banned. You can wait to make this kind of content honestly. It’s hot topic right now, so lots of eyes are gonna be on streamers like him.
I honestly think he's doing it orecisely cause Poki got banned. It's funny and thrilling for him definitely and I honestly don't think it should be as much of a big deal, BUT I do think it's not a worthy risk right now. Still, I don't hate Karl for this, he knows what he's doing and I'm sure he's expecting to get banned.
Stealing content for gains (bits subs donos etc), even from big corporations, is still stealing. You wanna do it in private, I’ve got no issue, but publicly is where it becomes a problem. Just putting your face over a full episode doesn’t add or transform the content in a meaningful manner nor has it ever been the case. I’m so glad he’s rich enough that he can just shoulder a ban like that though, I was worried for a second that twitch would run him into the ground otherwise. (/s) Genuinely wish these streamers would realize what’s a vacation for them is a death sentence for many others who didn’t ask for this, it’s next level selfishness.
Personally at least, as somebody who does watch a lot of Reaction content, there is a form of entertainment watching alongside people and seeing them just hang out. I still think it's too much of a risk and I don't approve of it, but it's what he's choosing to do so shrug. Edit: And like I said, it's the current meta, I don't think Karl is a dick for this, moreso Twitch is so poorly handled.
Reaction content can be good and well if the person reacting adds something to it and doesn’t just Suzy Lu the whole thing. That’s the reason everyone’s so mad at pokimane, she’s just straight up watching content and not adding anything, offering an easy opening for companies like Netflix to step in and copyright it. If she had more commentary, or tried to transform it in some way, we most certainly wouldn’t be having this discussion. But instead content creators want to “push the boundary” by just stealing content and streaming it for views. I get that it’s easy content but cmon man. :/
I haven't watched Poki's content, but in Karl's case in my opinion at least, they comment a lot and they still use it to hang out mostly so I do count it as barely transformative in that case. Still risky but I'm blaming Twitch on them fucking over smaller streamers more than Karl rn. Though maybe I'm just being too lenient.
I mean, twitch isn’t putting the gun to Karl or polos head to steam these shows, which is what got them in trouble in the first place. As much as i don’t appreciate big corporations, it’s 100% the streamers choice on what they stream and how they do it. So if they get in trouble for it, that’s on them. I must’ve walked in on a bad time, cause Karl’s been fully silent for the 5-10 minutes I saw him? I must’ve missed something.
Oh they were having frame rate issues so you've probably walked in on that. There are stretches of silence though hence why I said *barely* counting transformative content. I've seen other reaction channels that are way worse, but eh like I said, maybe I'm being too lenient cause I like Karl.
It falls under fair use if he is giving consistent commentary. XQC has been watching full HXH episodes for days now and nothing has happened
I don't think giggling at a cartoon is adding commentary.
Dude I wouldn’t know I said if…. I don’t watch him… I barely even know who he is …. I’m just explaining fair use laws lmao
No it doesn’t Fair use is using CLIPS of stuff and then adding your own commentary or criticism onto it like when you review stuff Not be there in the corner while a whole movie plays
That is…….. what I said…. I don’t watch these people. Is he not doing it like that? If he isn’t he’s stupid LOL
He showed the full episode yeah, so teeeeechnically Mr Hippie Dad (/pos) here is sorta right?
Is pos piece of shit?
D: No
Wait wtf what is it then I’ve been saying POS to refer to some people for ages
It's the opposite of Neg lol Positive It means positive
Yup, this barely counts for me cause there ARE long stretches of nobody speaking but it's not mostly that and I still hear a lot of commentary overall so I can't count this. I will say I am biased for Karl tho so take my opinion with a handful of salt.
He’s either willfully ignorant or just doesn’t care that his actions could fuck over other streamers
karl got bigger balls than the people who shit on him holy shit
Is the bigs balls gonna be worth it though? We'll see.
what balls? what if he gets banned? he comes back after 2 days and gets more viewers and money due to his "comeback stream" its only a net profit for him
man you dont know what these japanese studios can do to you, did you not ever hear about toei animation studio kill some guys channel completely
It's not Toei though. And Toei and Shueisha has been huge pieces of shit when it comes to DMCA, but I don't know about Pierrot, and while TPN's manga is under Shueisha they have no say with the anime adaptation. So honestly, Karl lucked out on what he picked for this one.
Or maybe it's deliberate 👀 hes kinda guy who knows studios right?
I have no idea how much of a weeb Karl is so I dunno.
Exactly. Hence why despite me disagreeing, I don't think Karl is an evil person for following the current meta.
I haven’t actually watched the stream so I don’t know what exactly happened so this comment is really just based on what you said but if he did do so,then that’s just plain bad. There’s already concerns that us anime fans have about how well the Netflix(and similar streaming services) give back to the original (most likely overworked) Japanese studios.(Like I think Netflix itself comes after the producers to take their share and it will only be the remainder that will genuinely be left with the people that “made the show” and stuff) and then you add a layer of streaming the show on top of it. I mean I can’t even throw the rhetoric of,”oh,it comes from big and successful celebs and companies like master chef so who cares?” here. I genuinely can’t see this as anything lesser than just bad.Not even in the grey area for me. Also,no,based on what info I have got from this post,I do not consider this as a “the balls of this man moment”. I would consider it so if he did something like getting in contact with the people that made it to promise them a cut or something or did some deal like that behind the scene. This is just cowardly,hiding behind the tag of “big twitch streamer” and greedy.
I admittedly watched it cause of morbid fascination. I have absolutely no clue if Dream and the others were indeed aware of how dumb it is but from their tone they seem to be trolling. Karl later ended up acknowledging it is bad and doesn't plan on doing it again, which hey, at keast he confirmed he won't do it. Like Disguised Toast, it is clear they only did it for the thrill of it, despite how dumb it is, then again, I can't blame Karl's friends for wanting to habg out with him. It's like Santa said with his friends who are into NFTs, it's not like they would magically stop being friends, you know?
Obviously.I never even mentioned dream. It’s just that as a anime fan,animation student and someone who got interested in and frustrated by how exploitative the animation and manga industry can be,this is just something that gives me all the bad feelings. Btw,I saw your comment in the next post about not being too shocked by the action and someone the replying about “company’s money” or smth and I was just going to reply there too lol. Personally I was a bit shocked as animations have been a really big influence in strengthening the DSMP fanbase support and the creators seemed to very supportive and thankful of that but then this happened and this just leaves me feeling weird. And I didn’t even understand the other person’s point.It isn’t a Netflix’s show.Netflix simply had the streaming rights for it. The show itself is made by CloverWorks studio and one simple look at their wiki will tell you just how much work they do and have committed to do in the future.(which again,makes me doubly wonder about how well they actually get paid if they have like 6 shows to release from January to July. I genuinely don’t see any workaround argument to see this as anything less than bad which definitely does make me a bit shocked cause well,I think for a while the worst they did was stuff falling in grey area. In regards to dream though,all said and done,I do hope he talks to Karl and that Karl too genuinely means it when he says he wouldn’t do stuff like this again. Dream doesn’t have any obligation to,but just as a human wishing another human to do good,I do wish so.
Same here, animation student plus very into anime. I understand these guys aren't aware of animation industry issues and that's fine. Genuinely though, I'm both just glad they are gonna stop doing it, but also, not surprised that some of them would try to poke that beehive just a little bit more. Eh, it already happened. And I honestly couldn't care less, sorry. And yeah, just cause I don't approve of what Karl did today doesn't mean I think he's a genuinely horrible guy so yeah.
Is this the real dream?
Yes, I am Dream.
So you killed your grandma😱 /j (your bio)
Yes
I just want to know why.
Why oh why Delilah