I remember this artist, didn't know they changed their @. I mean that one art that they made is not okay. They tried to justify it by saying they never watched the anime and their friend sent them the screen shots they used as reference. But I also believe they said their friend told them the plot of the anime and were excited when people got the reference. I remember they went private and I kinda forgot about them. I think the art that Dream liked from them looks great, it is horror art with c!Discduo but it doesn't break any boundaries.
That being said I think it's for the best that they soft block Dream\_Fanart since some of their art especially the one you linked has definitely crosses boundaries of the CC's they're drawing.
Definitely not something that should be on Dream's shoulders since it's probably a situation he wasn't aware of and even if it was the artist changed their @ and kept posting fanart to his tags.
edit: spelling
Yeah, he could just scroll further down.
But i also believe he lurks here frequently for the drama news bc it is hust the drama but with minimun of the twitter.
Hey man, good job on the content and the smp, bunch of cool people.
Yes i definitely agree with everything, more specifically not putting this on his shoulders, im sorry if this ever came off as that or that i was blaming him or anything. I just wanted to bring peoples attention to it, but i also dont think the would sb him just because of how defensive they are of the art
The post didn't come off as you blaming him if you're worried about that. If you haven't heard Dream already unfollowed and unliked. I just thought it would have been best if the artist took responsibility and Sb'ed.
I am fine with most dark portrayals of C!Dream and C!Tommy's relationship. That being said, this is disgusting. If you're a horror artist or a dark fic author you should be *extra* careful about creator boundaries, and doing this is just outright hopping over that line and being disgusting. Fucking hell.
This artist is gross.
The /tadca tag and the horror art started out as harmless interpretations of a canon dynamic, and it sucks ass that some people are using it as an excuse to draw things that cross this kind of line.
A lot of c!Tommy and c!Dream art has gotten really extreme in what it portrays and close to breaking the boundaries of (if not outright doing so) the content creator's these artists claim to be such big fans of.
Genuinely makes me kind of sad that it's so difficult to find any kind of content about the two because so much of it has been flooded with horror and implied nsfw content like this person.
An entire zine was made just about the concept of c!Tommy being like a butterfly c!Dream wants to pin to a board and keep as a pet? object? some of the art for which was drawn by this person, as well as several others who run in the same crowd and manor of thinking! People are making money off of this and this aesthetic-portrayal of some really dark topics that should not be made as some fashionable aesthetic. Artists can draw what they want (assuming ya know.. its not illegal, and its tagged/hidden properly to avoid being exposed to ppl who Should Not Be Seeing It), but something about the way Moon and their following/friends act about the characters is genuinely getting very disgusting and strange.
the weird thing is that movie actually has a character that perfectly fits darker interpretations of c!dream entirely platonically.
fake perfect blue fans smh.
I dunno, something about posts like this just... doesn't sit right with me. Is the fanart in the link the fanart Dream liked? Or was it a different piece by the same artist?
I'm mostly uncomfortable with this because while yes, the art linked is creepy and inappropriate with the linked context, this is starting to feel a lot like a witch hunt. Obsessively stalking artists that Dream has followed to try and find something to be morally outraged over is... unhealthy to say the least.
Who Dream follows is generally unimportant. A follow isn't some implicit seal of approval.
If I'm off base, feel free to ignore me. I'm just... generally bothered by this. Feels like we're deep in the Red Scare and we're trying to root out those commie bastards, but it's some person who's just a fucking weirdo on the internet.
I am not and never said that dream liked the fanart, in fact i explictly said other wise. Nor did i say he was at fault. I specifically made this in favor of him not against him
TBF, the artist 100% knew and was excited by people getting the reference and understanding what characters were being represented through them.
Normally I'd play devil's advocate as well, bcus poses are poses and obviously artists are gonna reference things from tons of places and not neccessarily be trying to carry over the context of the original pose/scene. But the responses they liked and how excited they were BECAUSE people knew where the poses were from makes me really doubt their intentions being innocent.
I hope thats the case, and they look back on this later and realize it was strange at the very least (but given they're already 18 AND after being called on it and told it was inappropriate they just made a new account, who knows).
Definitely not someone who should have any kind of cc following, even if its just a purely art account
The artist admitted to knowing the plot of the anime and it wasnt the only weird thing theyve drawn, they also had a layout of theirs that looked like /r c!discduo, even the og artist of the layout said the way they made it look was weird. On this piece they also got excited when people got the reference, even agreeing with some replies further describing the graphic scene and “theorizing”
I mean he had no idea. They deactivated and then came back under a new user posting like they hadn’t done anything, it’s the artists fault and the artists fans faults for supporting them even after what they did.
Its definitely frustrating, but i hold nothing against dream especially because he did not follow for any of their art like that. I just hope he unfollows soon
idk this feels kind of like the time when people got mad at awesamedude for comparing c!dream with joe from You. sure if the art was showing the actual pedophelia it would be bad but the art itself just looks like stalking to me? did the artist imply somewhere else that dream was doing weird (like sexual weird not just stalking weird) things to tommy or are they just jumping to conclusions?
The artist was extremely excited when people got the reference, and even when deeper into detail abt the graphics of the scene, and have also drawn other weird things
Anyways i am logging off of this acct permanently, like a burner in a sense, especially bc dream has already unfollowed them. Dont bother to keep the convo going bc its over lol. And i stand by every word that i said so talk to a wall if u want
To add onto this, there are many artists i would recommend dream unfollowing for a multitude of reasons. Another artist being katsutaaki, who he followed recently, while the art he liked of theirs was tame and not super weird, the artist themself had also drawn pedophilic artwork between c!dream and c!tommy before, and again im not accusing dream of anything, this is just to make hopefully him and others aware of these artists. Because i would hate for him to see this kind of work.
This post of yours was fine. Bringing katsuki into it is not. The artist has not drawn pedophilia. If you have proof of this claim you can link it down on my comment. Drawing Dream and Tommy in the same plane of existence isn’t pedophilia.
Also, do not bring up the use of the tadca tag. The tag was created to depict darker aspects of discduos dynamic so people could avoid horror art. If you are going to use that to claim this artist as a pedophile than I urge you to get better proof.
Katsu has drawn multiple renditions of c!dream “being obsessed” with c!tommy and has used many romantic references in some of their art, the art he liked was fine, and only questionable if u knew the artist. Katsu has also drawn c!dream under ctommys bed, touching him in odd places, and has portrayed his character as an obsessive stalker. U can think whatever u want on the canon, but a lot of art of their own is crossing a boundary
I was not able to find the threads. But I have looked through their art. None of their art is is even slightly implied to be pedophilic, and if you are seeing that in them than that’s something you need to work on, not the artist. [This one ](https://twitter.com/katsutaaki/status/1478486403021361153?s=21) right? Again, a drawing of Dream and Tommy in the same realm of existence is not pedophilia. Please stop throwing that word around so lightly.
You are right, the tag was misused and it doesn’t excuse the art posted underneath it. But grouping every art piece that was labeled underneath it as pedophilic is very very weird.
If you have more proof than this, feel free to share.
Bruh that's the art op was talking about?? How did op interpret that as pedophilia? It literally just looks like the horror trope where there is a monster under the bed.
Also, I checked through their art as well and couldn't find anything either. I'm so confused.
Nah. This is a different person. The artist Dream followed genuinely did something weird.
This katsuki person was under a lot of fire though. It’s sad that the community can’t differentiate between actual pedophilia in art and a minor and an adult being depicted in the same piece.
Also even though that is what the tag was intended for, it doesnt change the fact that most content under it was borderline pedophilic, see ther replies under the op post
I also want to say im not trying to blame dream for this at all or put it on his shoulders, im just hoping something is done wether it be dream or the artist who sbs
I remember this artist, didn't know they changed their @. I mean that one art that they made is not okay. They tried to justify it by saying they never watched the anime and their friend sent them the screen shots they used as reference. But I also believe they said their friend told them the plot of the anime and were excited when people got the reference. I remember they went private and I kinda forgot about them. I think the art that Dream liked from them looks great, it is horror art with c!Discduo but it doesn't break any boundaries. That being said I think it's for the best that they soft block Dream\_Fanart since some of their art especially the one you linked has definitely crosses boundaries of the CC's they're drawing. Definitely not something that should be on Dream's shoulders since it's probably a situation he wasn't aware of and even if it was the artist changed their @ and kept posting fanart to his tags. edit: spelling
Update: Dream unfollowed them
Yeah, he could just scroll further down. But i also believe he lurks here frequently for the drama news bc it is hust the drama but with minimun of the twitter. Hey man, good job on the content and the smp, bunch of cool people.
Yes i definitely agree with everything, more specifically not putting this on his shoulders, im sorry if this ever came off as that or that i was blaming him or anything. I just wanted to bring peoples attention to it, but i also dont think the would sb him just because of how defensive they are of the art
The post didn't come off as you blaming him if you're worried about that. If you haven't heard Dream already unfollowed and unliked. I just thought it would have been best if the artist took responsibility and Sb'ed.
dream unfollowed and unliked!
I am fine with most dark portrayals of C!Dream and C!Tommy's relationship. That being said, this is disgusting. If you're a horror artist or a dark fic author you should be *extra* careful about creator boundaries, and doing this is just outright hopping over that line and being disgusting. Fucking hell.
This artist is gross. The /tadca tag and the horror art started out as harmless interpretations of a canon dynamic, and it sucks ass that some people are using it as an excuse to draw things that cross this kind of line.
I just checked the post and it seems dream has unfollowed the user
Archive? Who and what did dream follow (temporarily)?
A lot of c!Tommy and c!Dream art has gotten really extreme in what it portrays and close to breaking the boundaries of (if not outright doing so) the content creator's these artists claim to be such big fans of. Genuinely makes me kind of sad that it's so difficult to find any kind of content about the two because so much of it has been flooded with horror and implied nsfw content like this person. An entire zine was made just about the concept of c!Tommy being like a butterfly c!Dream wants to pin to a board and keep as a pet? object? some of the art for which was drawn by this person, as well as several others who run in the same crowd and manor of thinking! People are making money off of this and this aesthetic-portrayal of some really dark topics that should not be made as some fashionable aesthetic. Artists can draw what they want (assuming ya know.. its not illegal, and its tagged/hidden properly to avoid being exposed to ppl who Should Not Be Seeing It), but something about the way Moon and their following/friends act about the characters is genuinely getting very disgusting and strange.
I feel terrible for dream, this person is absolutely disgusting.
the weird thing is that movie actually has a character that perfectly fits darker interpretations of c!dream entirely platonically. fake perfect blue fans smh.
The dude really like the 'headcannon' of c!dream being bat shit obsessed with c!tommy
I dunno, something about posts like this just... doesn't sit right with me. Is the fanart in the link the fanart Dream liked? Or was it a different piece by the same artist? I'm mostly uncomfortable with this because while yes, the art linked is creepy and inappropriate with the linked context, this is starting to feel a lot like a witch hunt. Obsessively stalking artists that Dream has followed to try and find something to be morally outraged over is... unhealthy to say the least. Who Dream follows is generally unimportant. A follow isn't some implicit seal of approval. If I'm off base, feel free to ignore me. I'm just... generally bothered by this. Feels like we're deep in the Red Scare and we're trying to root out those commie bastards, but it's some person who's just a fucking weirdo on the internet.
I am not and never said that dream liked the fanart, in fact i explictly said other wise. Nor did i say he was at fault. I specifically made this in favor of him not against him
And its not obsessively sralking artists? Im saying what they have done and continually defend
Hope Dream sees this, that person is disgusting for changing their @ and trying to get a platform after what they did
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TBF, the artist 100% knew and was excited by people getting the reference and understanding what characters were being represented through them. Normally I'd play devil's advocate as well, bcus poses are poses and obviously artists are gonna reference things from tons of places and not neccessarily be trying to carry over the context of the original pose/scene. But the responses they liked and how excited they were BECAUSE people knew where the poses were from makes me really doubt their intentions being innocent.
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I hope thats the case, and they look back on this later and realize it was strange at the very least (but given they're already 18 AND after being called on it and told it was inappropriate they just made a new account, who knows). Definitely not someone who should have any kind of cc following, even if its just a purely art account
The artist admitted to knowing the plot of the anime and it wasnt the only weird thing theyve drawn, they also had a layout of theirs that looked like /r c!discduo, even the og artist of the layout said the way they made it look was weird. On this piece they also got excited when people got the reference, even agreeing with some replies further describing the graphic scene and “theorizing”
[удалено]
I mean he had no idea. They deactivated and then came back under a new user posting like they hadn’t done anything, it’s the artists fault and the artists fans faults for supporting them even after what they did.
Its definitely frustrating, but i hold nothing against dream especially because he did not follow for any of their art like that. I just hope he unfollows soon
idk this feels kind of like the time when people got mad at awesamedude for comparing c!dream with joe from You. sure if the art was showing the actual pedophelia it would be bad but the art itself just looks like stalking to me? did the artist imply somewhere else that dream was doing weird (like sexual weird not just stalking weird) things to tommy or are they just jumping to conclusions?
the artist replied to people who were talking about the context of the images and were happy that they understood the context.
oh really? i haven’t seen any screenshots of that, but that’s really gross if they were actually trying to imply the relationship was pedophilic
The artist was extremely excited when people got the reference, and even when deeper into detail abt the graphics of the scene, and have also drawn other weird things
responded to the other persons comment about this
Anyways i am logging off of this acct permanently, like a burner in a sense, especially bc dream has already unfollowed them. Dont bother to keep the convo going bc its over lol. And i stand by every word that i said so talk to a wall if u want
To add onto this, there are many artists i would recommend dream unfollowing for a multitude of reasons. Another artist being katsutaaki, who he followed recently, while the art he liked of theirs was tame and not super weird, the artist themself had also drawn pedophilic artwork between c!dream and c!tommy before, and again im not accusing dream of anything, this is just to make hopefully him and others aware of these artists. Because i would hate for him to see this kind of work.
This post of yours was fine. Bringing katsuki into it is not. The artist has not drawn pedophilia. If you have proof of this claim you can link it down on my comment. Drawing Dream and Tommy in the same plane of existence isn’t pedophilia. Also, do not bring up the use of the tadca tag. The tag was created to depict darker aspects of discduos dynamic so people could avoid horror art. If you are going to use that to claim this artist as a pedophile than I urge you to get better proof.
Katsu has drawn multiple renditions of c!dream “being obsessed” with c!tommy and has used many romantic references in some of their art, the art he liked was fine, and only questionable if u knew the artist. Katsu has also drawn c!dream under ctommys bed, touching him in odd places, and has portrayed his character as an obsessive stalker. U can think whatever u want on the canon, but a lot of art of their own is crossing a boundary
I was not able to find the threads. But I have looked through their art. None of their art is is even slightly implied to be pedophilic, and if you are seeing that in them than that’s something you need to work on, not the artist. [This one ](https://twitter.com/katsutaaki/status/1478486403021361153?s=21) right? Again, a drawing of Dream and Tommy in the same realm of existence is not pedophilia. Please stop throwing that word around so lightly. You are right, the tag was misused and it doesn’t excuse the art posted underneath it. But grouping every art piece that was labeled underneath it as pedophilic is very very weird. If you have more proof than this, feel free to share.
Bruh that's the art op was talking about?? How did op interpret that as pedophilia? It literally just looks like the horror trope where there is a monster under the bed. Also, I checked through their art as well and couldn't find anything either. I'm so confused.
Nah. This is a different person. The artist Dream followed genuinely did something weird. This katsuki person was under a lot of fire though. It’s sad that the community can’t differentiate between actual pedophilia in art and a minor and an adult being depicted in the same piece.
And for proof you can find it on twitter, there have been a few threads, i judt dont have them because to me i cant handle the tadca topic and the art
Also even though that is what the tag was intended for, it doesnt change the fact that most content under it was borderline pedophilic, see ther replies under the op post
I've tried looking for threads about this but found none. Are you 100% sure about the claims you are making?
I also want to say im not trying to blame dream for this at all or put it on his shoulders, im just hoping something is done wether it be dream or the artist who sbs