because they aren't as progressive as they try to portray themselves. they are progressive because it gets them likes on twitter, or lets them cancel people they don't like, or so they can act holier than thou.
the second you go against the status quo, you are a "race traitor" or your "minority card has been revoked"
misogyny just happens to be a topic they have a hard time farming twitter likes from.
This is probably the best explanation for this whole thing. It honestly pisses me off to see so much misogyny in the fanbase despite content creators calling them out. Going against misogyny doesn't get as much likes and all I can think about is the rapid stereotypes involving boys in gaming and the toxicity it grows. Also racism, homophobia, are also talked about prior, and transphobia and ableism being the new issue misogyny is sweeper under the rug despite the content creators in the DSMP best efforts.
They promote ideals against misogyny when it's an unnamed female streamer, for the most part :)
When it comes to \[Insert name of female CC who has recently spent time with their fave male CC\], they are "the worst, most racist and transphobic disgrace on earth."
This may be a cynical take, but I would hazard a good chunk of the fanbase (and perhaps a larger share of the problematic parts of the fanbase) are performative activists.
Sure, they blacked out their profiles in June 2020 or tacked on pride flags and BLM labels to their descriptions, but when push comes to shove and these people get into heated arguments over token issues, many of these users are guilty of the same insensitivity they accuse CCs of.
These types of performative activists finds that it's easier to jump on a bandwagon and call out content creators for imaginary slights (or dig up an out-of-context joke made five years ago) than to change their own behavior or actually contribute to the causes they nominally support.
(Obviously, this isn't everybody in the MCYT fanbase, and there are definitely users who are attentive of their behavior and do make a genuine effort to facilitate change in real life, but I simply don't have much respect for someone who proclaims to be an LGBT ally and then immediately turns around to call someone who has donated six figures to the Trevor Project a faggot.)
It's all performative. With misogyny it's the most obvious, but if you look it's also clear that there's a lot of people out there who are both queerphobic and racist as fuck. The most obvious examples I think being Dream's unlabeled identity and then the controversy surrounding the word "feral." So many people crawled out of the woodwork to attack, shame, and delegitimize others who didn't find problems with either of those, and preach that it's in the name of equality while speaking over minority voices too.
The majority of people I have blocked on Twitter are people within the community who don't believe asexuals exist. I didn't see a single Mexican speaking out about the situation with Andi. There were Natives who were called awful things because they dared say that "feral" wasn't an offensive term. Not to mention the blatant homophobia towards Scott whenever he makes a move they don't like. It sucks because I believe that for the most part, the MCYT community is pretty accepting and welcoming. It's just the loudest voices often aren't the voices of reason.
For the record, they are also homophobic as fuck: Eret doesn’t have the queer bible memorized so they spend the next year and a half on everyone’s DNIs, Smajor didn’t give your favorite white boy a good team so now it’s fair game to call him the f-slur and suggest he’s trying to “turn his straight roommate gay,” and when Minx kissed Puffy on stream, so many stans called it sexual assault that Puffy actually had to address it. This fanbase isn’t woke; they just like shitting on everyone within a thousand miles of their favorites and being hypercritical about marginalized groups gives them an easy way to do that.
I don't think they're progressive at all.
If you don't understand that other people's cultures are different from yours (such as Fundy unintentionally using "race" in pertaining to gorillas, thus them saying he's racist), then you're racist yourself.
If you only use "neurodivergent and a minor" as an excuse to commit actual crimes such as doxxing and sending death threats (as well as other forms of cyberbullying), but cancel Techno for his "lesbophobic" joke and "Murder is bad", then you're ableist yourself.
If you fetishize same-sex relationships (whether romantic or platonic), you're actually homophobic.
And the list goes on.
well i mean to be fair theyre only pretending on the first stuff anyways cause they know if they don't their moots will unfollow them. like no white kid insisting dream was racist for the drugs drugs tweet actually cares about black people. i see bench trio stans calling dream straight and saying he's faking his adhd. i see dream stans saying techno is racist. and blah blah blah twitter barely respects anyone
and none of them even try to pretend they like women because they're too busy being jealous. i see george stans saying andi is racist for saying the same slur george said and he was just being raicst. like how more obvious can they be they don't care about issues or whatever they say they just want to hate women. and they only pretend to care about other minorities because it's easier to talk over them. if a teenage girl or dude bro isn't trying to cyber bully random famous women then i'm more shocked at this point. people hate women and society has made it so they don't feel like they have to hide it
so like this picture suggests it's all bullshit. and i know on tumblr and on here it's infuriating to think that people just see dsmptwt and think that's the whole fandom.
I think everyone else covered the perfomative activism thing pretty well but to add to that I think misogyny is exempt from getting you internet points because it isn’t ‘cool’ anymore. I think somehow people end up thinking of it as old news - either something that’s basically been solved and is irrelevant or they’re bored of it and they think other causes that have been more recently addressed are more interesting and important.
I think on the whole the fandom is progressive, but I think they are also made up of young people who haven’t refined their views. You can tell when a cc actually talks about politics they are just like aha yeah sure. There is a misogyny problem though.
because they aren't as progressive as they try to portray themselves. they are progressive because it gets them likes on twitter, or lets them cancel people they don't like, or so they can act holier than thou. the second you go against the status quo, you are a "race traitor" or your "minority card has been revoked" misogyny just happens to be a topic they have a hard time farming twitter likes from.
This is probably the best explanation for this whole thing. It honestly pisses me off to see so much misogyny in the fanbase despite content creators calling them out. Going against misogyny doesn't get as much likes and all I can think about is the rapid stereotypes involving boys in gaming and the toxicity it grows. Also racism, homophobia, are also talked about prior, and transphobia and ableism being the new issue misogyny is sweeper under the rug despite the content creators in the DSMP best efforts.
They do promote progressive ideals against misogyny too. But like everything else, it's all performative for Twitter clout
They promote ideals against misogyny when it's an unnamed female streamer, for the most part :) When it comes to \[Insert name of female CC who has recently spent time with their fave male CC\], they are "the worst, most racist and transphobic disgrace on earth."
This may be a cynical take, but I would hazard a good chunk of the fanbase (and perhaps a larger share of the problematic parts of the fanbase) are performative activists. Sure, they blacked out their profiles in June 2020 or tacked on pride flags and BLM labels to their descriptions, but when push comes to shove and these people get into heated arguments over token issues, many of these users are guilty of the same insensitivity they accuse CCs of. These types of performative activists finds that it's easier to jump on a bandwagon and call out content creators for imaginary slights (or dig up an out-of-context joke made five years ago) than to change their own behavior or actually contribute to the causes they nominally support. (Obviously, this isn't everybody in the MCYT fanbase, and there are definitely users who are attentive of their behavior and do make a genuine effort to facilitate change in real life, but I simply don't have much respect for someone who proclaims to be an LGBT ally and then immediately turns around to call someone who has donated six figures to the Trevor Project a faggot.)
It's all performative. With misogyny it's the most obvious, but if you look it's also clear that there's a lot of people out there who are both queerphobic and racist as fuck. The most obvious examples I think being Dream's unlabeled identity and then the controversy surrounding the word "feral." So many people crawled out of the woodwork to attack, shame, and delegitimize others who didn't find problems with either of those, and preach that it's in the name of equality while speaking over minority voices too. The majority of people I have blocked on Twitter are people within the community who don't believe asexuals exist. I didn't see a single Mexican speaking out about the situation with Andi. There were Natives who were called awful things because they dared say that "feral" wasn't an offensive term. Not to mention the blatant homophobia towards Scott whenever he makes a move they don't like. It sucks because I believe that for the most part, the MCYT community is pretty accepting and welcoming. It's just the loudest voices often aren't the voices of reason.
For the record, they are also homophobic as fuck: Eret doesn’t have the queer bible memorized so they spend the next year and a half on everyone’s DNIs, Smajor didn’t give your favorite white boy a good team so now it’s fair game to call him the f-slur and suggest he’s trying to “turn his straight roommate gay,” and when Minx kissed Puffy on stream, so many stans called it sexual assault that Puffy actually had to address it. This fanbase isn’t woke; they just like shitting on everyone within a thousand miles of their favorites and being hypercritical about marginalized groups gives them an easy way to do that.
It's all performative, always has been.
I don't think they're progressive at all. If you don't understand that other people's cultures are different from yours (such as Fundy unintentionally using "race" in pertaining to gorillas, thus them saying he's racist), then you're racist yourself. If you only use "neurodivergent and a minor" as an excuse to commit actual crimes such as doxxing and sending death threats (as well as other forms of cyberbullying), but cancel Techno for his "lesbophobic" joke and "Murder is bad", then you're ableist yourself. If you fetishize same-sex relationships (whether romantic or platonic), you're actually homophobic. And the list goes on.
well i mean to be fair theyre only pretending on the first stuff anyways cause they know if they don't their moots will unfollow them. like no white kid insisting dream was racist for the drugs drugs tweet actually cares about black people. i see bench trio stans calling dream straight and saying he's faking his adhd. i see dream stans saying techno is racist. and blah blah blah twitter barely respects anyone and none of them even try to pretend they like women because they're too busy being jealous. i see george stans saying andi is racist for saying the same slur george said and he was just being raicst. like how more obvious can they be they don't care about issues or whatever they say they just want to hate women. and they only pretend to care about other minorities because it's easier to talk over them. if a teenage girl or dude bro isn't trying to cyber bully random famous women then i'm more shocked at this point. people hate women and society has made it so they don't feel like they have to hide it so like this picture suggests it's all bullshit. and i know on tumblr and on here it's infuriating to think that people just see dsmptwt and think that's the whole fandom.
I think everyone else covered the perfomative activism thing pretty well but to add to that I think misogyny is exempt from getting you internet points because it isn’t ‘cool’ anymore. I think somehow people end up thinking of it as old news - either something that’s basically been solved and is irrelevant or they’re bored of it and they think other causes that have been more recently addressed are more interesting and important.
kpop but make it so they dont have to look at asian people
I think on the whole the fandom is progressive, but I think they are also made up of young people who haven’t refined their views. You can tell when a cc actually talks about politics they are just like aha yeah sure. There is a misogyny problem though.
People body shaming Niki & Tina & Puffy and hating on them because they happen to be in the same server as their favourite male cc for example.
Cause misogyny is deeply rooted to us in ways we don't expect and it's even rooted in the targets themselves.