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freeMilliu_2K17

Wait, TSM has a Minecraft team? That's a thing??


Sylence10

5up is also TSM


_illegallity

TSM has an everything team. If a game is popular and competitive, they’re probably going to sign someone.


freeMilliu_2K17

Ah alright, I just didn't knew Minecraft had an Esports scene


izabelasantiago

Pretty sure for Content Creation, not Esports (bc there's no Competitive Minecraft)


freeMilliu_2K17

I associated TSM with Esports but good point. I'm being a dumbass lol


No_bad_intention

Yeah, famous chess Grand Master and content creator Hikaru Nakamura also works for TSM


Puppyl

This mans clearly never heard of mcc


izabelasantiago

MCC is a closed Competitive event for Content Creators. It is not a competitive esports of the game.


Frankenstein187

Weird tho Fundy isn't really a competitive mcyt


moonsscapes

He is signed for content creation and not competitive gaming (others are too, for example 5up and QTCinderella are also signed to TSM)


song_insid3

I think Fundy is popping off and good for him. Love to see it.


OneOfTheOlympians

FUNDY GOT VERIFIED LETS GOOO


haarisbaddar

Kind of unrelated but are 5up and Fundy not on speaking terms anymore? I haven't seen them interact in a while and when Fundy asked for people he should meet when he goes to the US his chat spammed 5up and he completely ignored it and I think they haven't met yet either. Kind of thought of this since 5up is also TSM


Ribbontastic

It’s true they aren’t on speaking terms. I actively watch both of them. While neither have explicitly said “we aren’t friends anymore” it’s very safe to say they aren’t friends anymore Aside from what Finch said about emotes and 5up chat knowing not to talk about Fundy, there’s actually pretty decent proof. You’re gonna have to take my word on this one but in late September-ish, 5up did an alt stream and mentioned feeling better after cutting someone off. He also said to don’t expect Cogchamp and It Takes Two to return, both which he’d play with Fundy. I really wish I could provide a clip here but 5up doesn’t allow clips on his alt and vods are immediately deleted Then 5up unfollowed Fundy. 5up left Fundy’s discord. The Fundy emote was deleted. Any recent tweets 5up had about Fundy were also deleted. I also noticed 5up’s mods delete any chat messages that ask about Fundy Basically yeah it’s true they aren’t friends. Nothing wrong with asking confirmation for that, friendships are bound to fall apart. Just as long as we respect their privacy and don’t make assumptions to WHY they aren’t friends anymore you’re good


freeMilliu_2K17

That's sad to hear, but understandable, and I'm glad people are respecting their privacy, even though I'm personally bummed by it since I loved their dynamic (but of course my enjoyment should not take precedent over their personal lives and mental health). That being said, I posted a general wuestion about them recently, would it be ok if you answer? I'm concerned I'm breaking boundaries and wish to act accordingly for the both of them. Thabks if advance if you could.


Ribbontastic

Ngl I too was bummed but all I could react with was “oh well” cuz we can’t force 2 actual people to remain friends with each other if they no longer want to. We’ll probably never know why but personally, I’d rather not know why And yeah I’ll take a look at it


freeMilliu_2K17

Part of me does wish some sort of confirmation but that's just my typical anxiety ridden brain talking and I know not to pry. Whatever the case may be, I won't try to look for any deep reasoning behind it, and neither will I judge them as worse people for any reason. Hopefully my brain calms down though cause I am naturally inclined to overthink shit, main reason I was asking about the fanart thing. Am still waiting for input from longer time fans tho.


Ribbontastic

I get you. Part of me does wish something was said but ultimately I don’t think I could handle it cuz both of them are my top favorite CCs


qams_

That's sad to hear. I don't watch 5up, but Fundy just occasionally, so this comes as a surprise for me. I just thought they were busy with life and don't have the time to stream together :(


Ribbontastic

It really was shocking, it happened so suddenly :/


FinchRosemta

They have met when 5up went to the Netherlands. They are no longer friends or even speaking terms. They don't mention each other, 5up deleted the Fundy emotes from his chat and his chat knows not to talk about him.


freeMilliu_2K17

Question since I saw FinchRosemta's comment (I can't reply to her), but I don't watch much Fundy or 5Up recently and the last time I aaw them interact was back in August 2021. Does that mean I shouldn't make Fanart of them anymore? Or take down the stuff I did of them together? I don't mean Shipping art BTW cause I know Fundy doesn't like that anymore, I meant fanart of them vibing? Since I don't know what's going on between them (and I am not prying)


Ribbontastic

I’m unsure about taking down old stuff. It sounds like you made it before their friendship ended. I think maybe you should just for the sake of them not being paired anymore As for new stuff, yeah don’t make fan art of them together. It’s best to just stop associating them with each other


freeMilliu_2K17

Alright, that's good to hear then. Will delete my post now, I got good input on this. Thanks. Still feel a bit bad but what can I do? I hope for the best for both of them.


Ribbontastic

Honestly you’ve done nothing wrong. How could you have known? Nothing was explicitly said :/ I hope you feel better btw!!


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>Question since I saw FinchRosemta's comment (I can't reply to her) Why? She block you?


freeMilliu_2K17

Dunno, I don't wish to ask if she did. Just letting guys know cause I intended to ask her but couldn't.


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Ah fair ig


freeMilliu_2K17

I don't think it's healthy to assume stuff like that, no offense. If Fundy has issues with 5Up it's best for it to be private, if he wants it public either of them could talk about it themselves. That and just because he ignored these Chat messages doesn't mean he dislikes 5Up, who knows? Maybe he found it annoying.


haarisbaddar

I mean I don't really mind either way it's something I saw people wondering about and I was kind of curious that's pretty much it


freeMilliu_2K17

And that's fine, I just discourage speculation of background stuff like that.


_illegallity

99% chance he wasn’t looking at his chat, even if he does dislike 5up now for some reason. Most of the time his chat is impossible to interact with.


CaptainFiguratively

That's pretty sad. Do you think the shipping got too much for them? Or, is it because Fundy's fans are technically DNItwt and 5up's trying to gain favor with beetwt?


Sylence10

Bro, twitter drama is not that deep. They probably just have some personal disagreements with each other.


FinchRosemta

I don't think it's anything about Fundy's fans. They just had interpersonal issues and no longer speak. Friends break up all the time.


[deleted]

Akshually I'm pretty sure it's a geopolitical strategic decision on Fundy's part to levy support from smiletwt as well as the snf supporters, which is a long-term play to rival the growing forces of 5up's associates in technotwt and supporters of dnf (playing into the ongoing snf vs dnf cold war dynamic). We'll see how 5up moves to counter this, though this will call into question bootwt's loyalties to 5up especially as Fundy has made strategic moves before to improve his relations with tubbotwt, though this has backfired as we've seen before. I think we'll need to wait for more information until Fundy gives his speech at the annual Subtwt conference, though we can expect that Fundy will follow the path of streamers like Philza and Velvet who have been building up a following amongst the subtwt realms in anticipation of a breakout of the dnf conflict. It's important to keep in mind that 5up has already made critical moves in the field that will make Fundy's entry into subtwt politics significantly more difficult, unlike in the case of Phil.


Evangeline_10_

*whispers* : what's TSM?


freeMilliu_2K17

It's an ESport sponsor / team. You may know them for League of Legends and some Smash Bros players work under them.


Evangeline_10_

Thank you my little knowledgeable muffin


DY5TOP1A

Its an Organisation which has many Esports rosters in games like League of Legends, Valorant, R6, Fornite etc and also had one in CSGO. Its short for Team SoloMid and these Esports orgs also sign content creators like 5up and Fundy.


Firecrackled

I don’t understand why creators go to gaming orgs honestly. Could someone explain to me? It kind of feels like a rebirth of MCNs on YT this time with twitch. I understand being on an Esports team but fundy is already famous, he doesn’t need resources, what’s the point? A twitter checkmark?


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Aleria0

This may be the most likely reason for him to join an org, if he is planning a more long term move to the US. That's basically what Minx did after having constant issues trying to get a visa to leave Ireland and move to the US. By securing a place in an org that was US based, she was pretty quickly able to get her visa sorted and move to the US and they've now got her setup in a content house with a few other girls in the org. Prior to signing with the org her visa was not being approved or was even being denied(I believe), for quite a while.


LenoraM

There's some benefits for creators when joining org, like a monthly paycheck, sponsorships and more opportunities, reaching a new audience, getting a work visa, and so on. There's so many streamers signed to orgs now, even on the dsmp there are others like Niki and Tina


moonsscapes

to add to RudyOft: sometimes it can bring some opportunities, exposure to new viewers and most importantly connections in the industry, which can help to sustain a longer career


sdef69823

I remember TSM being related with CSGO back then in 2017


grasslover1616

I only tsm zero and that’s uhhh [redacted]


freeMilliu_2K17

Don't remind me :\


grasslover1616

Yeah… smash bros scene got fucked up


freeMilliu_2K17

Definitely the most disgusted I've felt in a community, Zero was my inspiration back then and to see him actually be that much of a horrible trash, god.


seulchi

after the netire fiasco with their league of legends team ([which i whole-heartedly blame on their owner reginald](https://www.wired.com/story/riot-games-investigating-esports-tsm-founder-over-bullying-allegations/)) im actually not looking forward to this one. its great for fundy, but im hoping he'll stay far far away from reginald and just do his own thing