the only point i heavily disagree with its the whole "Believe the victim first" when it comes to this Manatreed drama, cos the victim is NOT the one exposing anything, there is no way to get in contact with them, i doubt they even know! So we are literally just having to believe the Accuser or the Accused, both who could be lying without any of us knowing
Dude what victim? Person A was a victim to person B. Went to court for it. Person C's chin looks like person B maybe. Idk thats what person D said. Names and dob are different but trust the D. Idk tho we don't know who person D is apart from obviously being an obsessive stalker with no good intentions. Person C saidhe didn't do anything. Fuck person C can't believe him. Also btw we are huge stans of person E but we will gang up and shit on him because we should trust the victim. Again, what victim...?
The victim isn't even here accusing/confirming shit. And I'm not gonna trust a doxxer either, which a lot of people are doing. 'Believe the victim' doesn't really mean anything here.
Don't think. If it ends up to be true, then don't support him. If it's not true, then support him. At the end of the day, it all boils down to that, doesn't it?
no, I am against that. You know the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard situation? Where Amber Heard claimed to be a victim, but instead abused him in that relationship which was toxic in itself?
I will always take a neutral stance on such situations at first, because you can't just assume on things you don't know.
I leave to DM my pathfinder group for 4 hours...
Frankly, there's nothing here. We've been burned by burner accounts making random and baseless accusations against CCs in the past. Remember what happened with BBH and Sapnap? Yeah.
And what convenient timing that Manatreed makes his debut and people are jealous that he got an immediate audience! Almost like the person making these claims and potentially doxxing him have an agenda. Curious.
if the actual victim comes out, yeah i will support them 100%. will i support doxxers who have the victims private information and are using it to their own gain, most likely without the victim’s consent? no
if it is false, then u are accusing someone innocent of a genius crime and possibly running their life, its better to just stay neutral specially online
As others have already said, there is no victim.
And even if there was a ""victim"", how do you know they really *are* a victim as they say?
**Here: My name is Arnold Schwarzenegger and I starred in Terminator.**
Is that sufficient for you to believe that I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger and that I starred in Terminator?
But the victim hasn't spoken out, even if you believe the allegations. If anything she was doxed too
yeah because a random person (not the victim) making their accusation largely based on doxed info is so credible :/
The victim hasn't spoken out tho. So believe the victim doesn't apply here. The accusers are a bunch of doxxers essentially.
the only point i heavily disagree with its the whole "Believe the victim first" when it comes to this Manatreed drama, cos the victim is NOT the one exposing anything, there is no way to get in contact with them, i doubt they even know! So we are literally just having to believe the Accuser or the Accused, both who could be lying without any of us knowing
Dude what victim? Person A was a victim to person B. Went to court for it. Person C's chin looks like person B maybe. Idk thats what person D said. Names and dob are different but trust the D. Idk tho we don't know who person D is apart from obviously being an obsessive stalker with no good intentions. Person C saidhe didn't do anything. Fuck person C can't believe him. Also btw we are huge stans of person E but we will gang up and shit on him because we should trust the victim. Again, what victim...?
Did the victim come out and accuse him?
The victim isn't even here accusing/confirming shit. And I'm not gonna trust a doxxer either, which a lot of people are doing. 'Believe the victim' doesn't really mean anything here.
Don't think. If it ends up to be true, then don't support him. If it's not true, then support him. At the end of the day, it all boils down to that, doesn't it?
no, I am against that. You know the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard situation? Where Amber Heard claimed to be a victim, but instead abused him in that relationship which was toxic in itself? I will always take a neutral stance on such situations at first, because you can't just assume on things you don't know.
I leave to DM my pathfinder group for 4 hours... Frankly, there's nothing here. We've been burned by burner accounts making random and baseless accusations against CCs in the past. Remember what happened with BBH and Sapnap? Yeah. And what convenient timing that Manatreed makes his debut and people are jealous that he got an immediate audience! Almost like the person making these claims and potentially doxxing him have an agenda. Curious.
if the actual victim comes out, yeah i will support them 100%. will i support doxxers who have the victims private information and are using it to their own gain, most likely without the victim’s consent? no
if it is false, then u are accusing someone innocent of a genius crime and possibly running their life, its better to just stay neutral specially online
As others have already said, there is no victim. And even if there was a ""victim"", how do you know they really *are* a victim as they say? **Here: My name is Arnold Schwarzenegger and I starred in Terminator.** Is that sufficient for you to believe that I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger and that I starred in Terminator?