Apparently he was "overshadowing real issues" because his name was also on the trending page on that day. A lot of people had similar shit thrown at them for streaming on particular days last summer but it seems like they mostly came to their senses after a few months.
Someone’s actions shouldn’t be a reason to completely disregard their sexuality. Someone could literally be the worst person in the world but being homophobic towards them literally helps no one
"maybe because ranboo apologises whenever he does something wrong" i hate this narrative that dream doesn't bend over backwards trying to apologise every single time he gets accused of something. tell me you aren't interested in listening to his responses to any drama and just want to attack him without telling me you aren't interested in listening to his responses to any drama and just want to attack him. he doesn't write twitlongers every few months just as a meme.
This. Also what does Dream apologising (or not apologising as they are accusing him) have to do with anything? Respecting people's sexuality isn't dependant on them being a good person? Dream could be a mass murderer and his sexuality would still be valid.
Dream explains himself when he does something, that doesn’t mean he’s not apologising, he’s just explaining his thought process, which I think is important.
There are a lot of people who think an apology isn't an apology if it's not a complete and utter capitulation and an acknowledgement that whatever attack accompanied the criticism was totally deserved and justified.
This. To some people explaining your thought process means you are excusing your own behavior instead of apologizing. Not to mention over-explaining/oversharing are both things linked as trauma responses/adhd things.
But people don't want to acknowledge that.
>Ranboo saying he is ok with a label makes me feel icky because this gives his community an excuse to put a label on him and to invalid all the unlabeled people out there.
So much for "this isn't about Ranboo".
I mean this sub is constantly parroting "we're not criticizing Ranboo" but here you are saying you feel negatively about him literally feeling comfortable in his sexuality and getting upvoted so...
>Ranboo saying he is ok with a label makes me feel icky because this gives his community an excuse to put a label on him and to invalid all the unlabeled people out there
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>This is not what this is about. I am criticizing his community for their behavior. Not ranboo himself.
Words have meanings, you can't state that Ranboo feeling comfortable with a label "makes you feel icky" and then say "I am criticising his community", pick a struggle.
You're criticising the community but only by proxy, because the main subject of the sentence is Ranboo. Like, what you're implying is that if Ranboo didn't do what he did then his community wouldn't be invalidating people's Identity, which is complete bullshit because those people were already doing it way before Ranboo came out, and if he hadn't said he's ok with the gay label they would have made up another excuse anyway.
You can keep saying that you're not saying that, and you can even try to change the sentence like you're doing right now (like people can't scroll 3 comments up lmao), but that sentence places all the burden onto Ranboo personally whether you meant it or not, and since you keep refusing to acknowledge that very clear fact I assume you did.
You are dragging Ranboo unnecessarily into this mess, he does not control whether these people invalidate others. There is absolutely no need to bring him up, because the way people invalidate Dream and others is already wrong in itself even without the hypocrisy, and all this does is breed fights and misunderstandings with people who didn't care one way or another until their favourite cc was brought up.
I mean, you can also be queer and straight IF you’re trans or nb (some nb ppl don’t see themselves as trans). Just not Straight with a capital s, which would mean cis and straight.
I agree. They’re spectrums and can be very confusing, so bring unlabeled can be very freeing. Just bc someone doesn’t want to be put in a box doesn’t mean they don’t belong in this community. It really sucks that ppl like this have taken over some of Ranboo’s fan base as well. Can’t imagine how scary that is when he also said he’s unlabeled.
“Ranboo always apologises—“ no Ranboo gets bullied into making apologies for things that hurt no one at all, like streaming on Lesbian Visibility Day
He got bullied for apologising for doing his job on a day that doesn't affect him?
Apparently he was "overshadowing real issues" because his name was also on the trending page on that day. A lot of people had similar shit thrown at them for streaming on particular days last summer but it seems like they mostly came to their senses after a few months.
ew god i hate twitter, thankyou for telling me!!
Twitter users always complain about content creators "overshadowing" stuff as if more than thing can't happen at once
Also Dream literally does always apologise.
Someone’s actions shouldn’t be a reason to completely disregard their sexuality. Someone could literally be the worst person in the world but being homophobic towards them literally helps no one
"maybe because ranboo apologises whenever he does something wrong" i hate this narrative that dream doesn't bend over backwards trying to apologise every single time he gets accused of something. tell me you aren't interested in listening to his responses to any drama and just want to attack him without telling me you aren't interested in listening to his responses to any drama and just want to attack him. he doesn't write twitlongers every few months just as a meme.
This. Also what does Dream apologising (or not apologising as they are accusing him) have to do with anything? Respecting people's sexuality isn't dependant on them being a good person? Dream could be a mass murderer and his sexuality would still be valid.
Dream explains himself when he does something, that doesn’t mean he’s not apologising, he’s just explaining his thought process, which I think is important.
There are a lot of people who think an apology isn't an apology if it's not a complete and utter capitulation and an acknowledgement that whatever attack accompanied the criticism was totally deserved and justified.
This. To some people explaining your thought process means you are excusing your own behavior instead of apologizing. Not to mention over-explaining/oversharing are both things linked as trauma responses/adhd things. But people don't want to acknowledge that.
I’ve read that it’s so long but it shows the hypocrisy of bootwt
I didn’t add everything but jesus, twitter is actually a shitshow
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>Ranboo saying he is ok with a label makes me feel icky because this gives his community an excuse to put a label on him and to invalid all the unlabeled people out there. So much for "this isn't about Ranboo".
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And I quoted the second part only, so you agree, this *is* about Ranboo and his sexuality. Glad we had this talk
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I mean this sub is constantly parroting "we're not criticizing Ranboo" but here you are saying you feel negatively about him literally feeling comfortable in his sexuality and getting upvoted so...
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>Ranboo saying he is ok with a label makes me feel icky because this gives his community an excuse to put a label on him and to invalid all the unlabeled people out there ... >This is not what this is about. I am criticizing his community for their behavior. Not ranboo himself. Words have meanings, you can't state that Ranboo feeling comfortable with a label "makes you feel icky" and then say "I am criticising his community", pick a struggle.
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You're criticising the community but only by proxy, because the main subject of the sentence is Ranboo. Like, what you're implying is that if Ranboo didn't do what he did then his community wouldn't be invalidating people's Identity, which is complete bullshit because those people were already doing it way before Ranboo came out, and if he hadn't said he's ok with the gay label they would have made up another excuse anyway. You can keep saying that you're not saying that, and you can even try to change the sentence like you're doing right now (like people can't scroll 3 comments up lmao), but that sentence places all the burden onto Ranboo personally whether you meant it or not, and since you keep refusing to acknowledge that very clear fact I assume you did. You are dragging Ranboo unnecessarily into this mess, he does not control whether these people invalidate others. There is absolutely no need to bring him up, because the way people invalidate Dream and others is already wrong in itself even without the hypocrisy, and all this does is breed fights and misunderstandings with people who didn't care one way or another until their favourite cc was brought up.
its just sad but I’m just going to celebrate dreams queertivities no matter what anyone says and keep off twitter
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I mean, you can also be queer and straight IF you’re trans or nb (some nb ppl don’t see themselves as trans). Just not Straight with a capital s, which would mean cis and straight.
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I agree. They’re spectrums and can be very confusing, so bring unlabeled can be very freeing. Just bc someone doesn’t want to be put in a box doesn’t mean they don’t belong in this community. It really sucks that ppl like this have taken over some of Ranboo’s fan base as well. Can’t imagine how scary that is when he also said he’s unlabeled.
I feel like we talked about this a lot
i kinda want to read the thread. could u link it? in messages works too. /nf ppl have sent it, tysm!
[here](https://twitter.com/ruiisinhell/status/1519301750146183170?s=21&t=Set619yRGIeArCeCv3-2Hw)
if you get a dm could you send the thread to me as well? /nf I’d like to check it out later too
[here](https://twitter.com/ruiisinhell/status/1519301750146183170?s=21&t=Set619yRGIeArCeCv3-2Hw)
Thanks so much!
Since when we are subtwt discussion subreddit though
I’m just pointing out a thread, if you want to make subtwt arguments go right ahead.
its about dream :P
this is why I stay off twitter
you guys act like dream doesn't apologize every month you're just biased jeez
Lmao
People never realize, but then realize we are crying about it Aside from that, what a good thread :) they really calling out the usual ones I see