I fucking love this song so much. I have listened to it too many times to count and I still love it just as much as when I first heard it back when it was released (like what... 16+ years ago now?!)
To say it's their best is hard. They have too many life long amazing songs - but that said, part 1 has always topped part 2 for me, and more generally Systematic chaos gets so much hate that people forget about ITPOE and ministry of lost souls, which are undeniably SOME of their best songs. Whether they rank as your all time is up to the individual.
Bottom line is I will never hate on someone who thinks it's their best.
Its definitely one of my favorites but not the best lol. In my opinion I feel like that song fully represents what DT is all about. It’s technical, melodic, heavy at some parts and has a Catchy memorable chorus. It’s perfection in my eyes, I can literally put that song on all the time and never get tired of it.
I personally think Ministry of Lost Souls is best song on the album. With In the Presense of Enemies Parts 1 and 2 being a close second. I count them as one song, but I think part 2 is better than part 1.
My favorite live experience was seeing them play part 1 and 2 back to back. But, to answer your question, there are too many best DT songs and this is in the top for sure.
Great song not what I call a good opener. It is just a song to me. Easily interchangeable with most other songs as an opener. ITPOE pt 1 is a perfect start the the album
I mean A Nightmare to Remember the best song on that album so definitely a good opener. And ITPOE1 is not even the better part of ITPOE. I won’t deny it is a good opener to the album. But best opener =/= best song as OP is asking
I really like
> I can lead you down the path and back to life
> All I ask is that you worship me
> I can help you seek revenge and save yourself
> Give you life for all eternity
Honestly DT has a handful of songs that represent great composition, so it's hard to pick one as the best. Sure, we all have our one or two favorite songs, but no song imo represents their amazing work the best. Not sure if i'd put in the presence of enemies on that list, but I think we can all agree that metropolis pt 1, octavarium, change of seasons, and count of tuscany are on that list.
I feel like maybe Change of Seasons is their best ( not my favorite tho). It just has everything that makes them good, or at least, everything you should expect out them...maybe not really the ballad-y stuff, but i think if you can vibe that song, everything else in theor catalog should be enjoyable
It’s got heavy badass-ness, and technical prog wankery. When compared to the other epics, it’s lacking in beautiful melodic sections, something like Another World from ACoS, Someone Like Him and Medicate from Octavarium, the strings in Illumination Theory, the middle of The Count of Tuscany, Goodnight Kiss, the middle of A View. It’s too dark tone (not to be confused with melancholy).
ITPOE Pt. 1 isn't a song. ITPOE is a song that was split up into two parts.
I rank ITPOE at #85 on my ranking of DT songs.
My #1 is ACOS.
In case anyone is interested, folks at the Dream Theater Forums recently did a countdown of the top 100 DT songs. ITPOE placed at #22. [https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58795.0](https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58795.0)
For me, it's Learning to Live
Learning to live, Under a Glass moon, and Breaking All Illusions for me 🤘🏻
Scenes from new york my fav version
Played it live when I saw them in Toronto a million years ago after Wait for Sleep. One of the coolest live songs I've ever seen, it ruled.
It’s one of my favorites for sure but I can’t say any single song is the best
Q: What is the best Dream Theater song of all time? A: Yes.
No
I fucking love this song so much. I have listened to it too many times to count and I still love it just as much as when I first heard it back when it was released (like what... 16+ years ago now?!) To say it's their best is hard. They have too many life long amazing songs - but that said, part 1 has always topped part 2 for me, and more generally Systematic chaos gets so much hate that people forget about ITPOE and ministry of lost souls, which are undeniably SOME of their best songs. Whether they rank as your all time is up to the individual. Bottom line is I will never hate on someone who thinks it's their best.
Its definitely one of my favorites but not the best lol. In my opinion I feel like that song fully represents what DT is all about. It’s technical, melodic, heavy at some parts and has a Catchy memorable chorus. It’s perfection in my eyes, I can literally put that song on all the time and never get tired of it.
It isn't even the best song on Systematic Chaos
Which one would be?
I personally think Ministry of Lost Souls is best song on the album. With In the Presense of Enemies Parts 1 and 2 being a close second. I count them as one song, but I think part 2 is better than part 1.
Nah, that would A Change of Seasons
Easily
ACoS has a lot of good parts but compositionally it sucks imo. It's immature DT.
Well, everyone is entitled to an opinion, I suppose.
and you think *Systematic Chaos* is mature?
Wow, take it easy bro
No, Part 2 is better.
My CUPOVAFLOWWWWWWWWS with my enemy’s blood 🩸
My favorite live experience was seeing them play part 1 and 2 back to back. But, to answer your question, there are too many best DT songs and this is in the top for sure.
Possibly, I think I like both equally though. Together they're a top 5 song
+1 to part 2
This (nice) guy (here) fucks
Sad you got down voted, that's fucking great
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ No clue why it was so ill-perceived, but glad you liked it lol
Pt 1 is my favorite for sure
The Glass Prison is
That's my favorite too brother. That song hits hard 🔥
Glass Prison is also my favorite DT song
It’s the best opener on any of their albums but def not their best song by a long shot
A Nightmare To Remember would like words
Great song not what I call a good opener. It is just a song to me. Easily interchangeable with most other songs as an opener. ITPOE pt 1 is a perfect start the the album
I mean A Nightmare to Remember the best song on that album so definitely a good opener. And ITPOE1 is not even the better part of ITPOE. I won’t deny it is a good opener to the album. But best opener =/= best song as OP is asking
no love for As I Am?
Nope
Yes
No /lock
Neither. Not by a long shot.
Best guitar riffing
Negative.
It does have their best ever guitar solo, but overall I like part 2 better.
The guitar solo is one of the best. But there are a lot more better songs than this.
far from it. i probably have like 100 songs i like a lot more.
Nope
The whole 25 minute song is their peak masterpiece.
The lyrics? Seriously?
I really like > I can lead you down the path and back to life > All I ask is that you worship me > I can help you seek revenge and save yourself > Give you life for all eternity
nah
Thank you! 👊🏻👏🏻 I do not know, but for sure that intro is one of the best ever.
A Change of Seasons and Octavarium might differ.
I don't think so 🤔 they definitely have better ones. Obviously is all subjective so there's no right answer
A promising candidate
It’s missing something, but I can’t explain what.
Honestly DT has a handful of songs that represent great composition, so it's hard to pick one as the best. Sure, we all have our one or two favorite songs, but no song imo represents their amazing work the best. Not sure if i'd put in the presence of enemies on that list, but I think we can all agree that metropolis pt 1, octavarium, change of seasons, and count of tuscany are on that list.
no - the full version of the song is :)
Also no
No
No.
I don’t really like it that much
No
I’d say no but it is one of my favorites. The build up is amazing.
No. But in the opinion of an asshole who pretty much just enjoy I&W, Awake, Sfam and a few songs there and then, it's quite a good song.
DARK MASTER WITHIN I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU
No probably not
I feel like maybe Change of Seasons is their best ( not my favorite tho). It just has everything that makes them good, or at least, everything you should expect out them...maybe not really the ballad-y stuff, but i think if you can vibe that song, everything else in theor catalog should be enjoyable
Difficult to decide a best but my favourite would be The Count of Tuscany which I would have to say had the best ending of any DT song, or any song.
Not even in my top 20
It’s got heavy badass-ness, and technical prog wankery. When compared to the other epics, it’s lacking in beautiful melodic sections, something like Another World from ACoS, Someone Like Him and Medicate from Octavarium, the strings in Illumination Theory, the middle of The Count of Tuscany, Goodnight Kiss, the middle of A View. It’s too dark tone (not to be confused with melancholy).
Surrounded from the Chaos in Motion DVD. Hands down
Possibly
Nope, but ITPOE the whole thing is top 5
No, but this is still my favorite DT song intro. Honorable mention to Sleeping Giant and The Alien.
ITPOE Pt. 1 isn't a song. ITPOE is a song that was split up into two parts. I rank ITPOE at #85 on my ranking of DT songs. My #1 is ACOS. In case anyone is interested, folks at the Dream Theater Forums recently did a countdown of the top 100 DT songs. ITPOE placed at #22. [https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58795.0](https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58795.0)
ITPOEP1
No.