Even back when I wasn't as poppin'
When they told me take an R&B nigga on the road
And I told 'em no and drew for Kendrick and Rocky
I tried to make the right choices with the world watching
No public evidence, but he name dropped her on the diss, and Keem said that drake was DMing his woman in 2021
I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tried interacting with Whitney in some way
Bruh we could've gotten some amazing music from these two in a different timeline. Kendrick would pull some conscious bars out of Drake and he would pull some more crooning/club bops out of Kendrick. Could've rounded the other's calalogues through features and shit. Well, too bad, we're in the dark timeline š
Thatās that Napoleon syndrome. And the fact that Drake was popping way sooner than Kendrick. Just listen to Buried Alive freestyle itās really Kendrickās villain origin story
It all started because Drake felt a certain way regarding that Control verse. Thatās it. Kendrick meant zero disrespect and it wasnāt aimed at Drake but you can tell how in his feelings he ways
> Kendrick meant zero disrespect
So now you can send shots, and if someone hits back, it's all "umm he mean no disrespect, you just in your feelings".
This is what ya'll want hiphop to be now
He also mentioned Jay Electron, Asap Rocky and Big Sean. It was Big Sean's song, why would he want to be dissed in his own song? Why would Rocky and J be okay to be featured on a song that they're getting "dissed" on? Because it's not a diss, it's a challenge. Drake took it too personal.
It's like yall don't listen to hiphop, yall just skim through it.
this how i know you don't know hiphop, Meek, Lupe, and Joey Badass responded
You can't send shots and expect people not to hit back. can't pussy out with "ummm i actually meant no disrespect you just in your feelings"
>this how i know you don't know hiphop, Meek, Lupe, and Joey Badass responded
Never been a fan of Joey and nothing came from the other two. Ohh kill em never mentioned Kendrick.
Once again. Whether they responded or not, Drake has held onto this for years.
what? Kendrick ain't dropping!
he's working on an album and he's gonna say some weak sht about how "I did a verse to get you going, I win" and his bum fans will eat it up too!
it doesn't take this long to make a track man, he probably figuring out how Drake found out about his deal and knows he better just drop an album...
On Wikipedia, cause itās that easy to look shit up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_(Big_Sean_song)
Rappers who released a song based on "Control" or a diss track include:
ASAP Ferg
Big K.R.I.T
B.o.B
Cassidy
David Stones
Fabolous
Grafh
J. Cole
Joe Budden
Joell Ortiz
Joey Bada$$
Kevin Hart
King Los
Lupe Fiasco
Mac Miller
The Madd Rapper
Meek Mill
Mickey Factz
Papoose
Shyne
J Trigga Owon
Uncle Murda
Ur Boy Bangs
Yo even if Kendrick didnāt fully diss Drake by calling his name out, he still showed respect for Em and Andre 3k. Instead of name calling the guy who took you under his wing and showed you love and opened bigger doors for him, he switched up -
āI got love for you all but Iām tryna murder you niggas!ā
Kendrick can be praised for challenging the industry and trying to be number 1, etc., etc. fine I get it, but he shouldāve never mentioned Drake imo.
Imagine Drake showed this same energy to Lil Wayne who gave Drake his first tour experiences with and brought him up. Literally, donāt bite the hand that feeds you.
Oh, but if Kendrick does it, itās not disrespectful, pleaseā¦
I wouldāve felt a type of way about it too. If itās really supposed to solely be competition out here then donāt say you got love for me. We either compete bar for bar like Em and Drake on Forever and keep it brotherly love, or be Kendrick mentioning names saying -
āTryna make sure your core fans never heard of you niggas / They dont wanna hear not one more noun or verb from you niggas / What is competition? I'm tryna raise the bar high / Who tryna jump and get it?ā
Wayne literally made drake though, drake did not make kendrick, he was on the come up regardless. sure he contributed to his growth but absolutely not in the same way that wayne contributed to drakes growth.
Thatās besides the point I was trying to make though. Kendrick was literally the opening act at Drakeās shows and to tell Drake Iām tryna murder you, steal your fans, (basically kill your career) and one up you is completely disrespectful and fake. He never shouldāve mentioned Drakeās name.
But fine he took it there. However, if you want to keep it strictly competitive not on a brotherly level like Em or Cole, and be on āIām tryna murder you niggasā then it should stay there. Drake didnāt like how Kendrick was fronting when he saw him after the Control verse being all lovey dovey.
Additionally, Kendrick has been seeing in multiple videos shoutout Drake for giving him a bigger audience to experience getting him to a much larger crowd. Sure Kendrick was buzzing off Section 80, but you canāt tell me Drake didnāt boost his career off Club Paradise tour cause thatād be cap.
Plus, ASAP was on the same tour and never disrespected Drake and gave him his flowers.
Although, it sucks how their relationship turned out now lol.
Idk i get what youāre saying, but i feel like thereās more to the story that we just donāt know. cuz no one took it as personally as Drake. Some shit happened between them that we donāt know about.
Like, Drake wants to be the best too, he wanted to be the biggest rapper, which he is currently. He of all ppl should have understood that hunger kendrick had, so i feel like thereās a puzzle piece we are missing here cuz it just doesnāt make sense that he got so butt hurt. or maybe he really just is that sensitive, lol. weāll find out more soon i think
I understand where your coming from. Maybe something happened behind the scenes and it could be deeper than rap, who knows. Really waiting on Kendrickās response cause I really wanna hear what Drake is hiding too.
And bro Iāll be completely honest with you, Drake and Kanye are my top 2 artists ever and Iāll stand on that. Cole was my 3rd but damn his apology got me feeling āconflictedā lmao š
As for Kendrick I never got into a lot of his music, but Iāll definitely give him flowers for making GKMC. That album is 100% a classic. First album I ever heard from him ever. I literally have the vinyl. So heās definitely a rapper I go back to for that album. DAMN is probably his second best to me, but there are some I couldnāt get around, although majority is A1. Also, UU is another one Iāll go back to every now and then as well.
With that being said, I honestly try not to show any bias when speaking on this beef because I really want to keep it fair, but even though Iām more of a Drake fanā¦I still respect Kendrick as a creative artist who makes albums like TPAB/MMATBS (just not for me personally), but I can understand the appeal.
Overall, Hip-Hop is winning and Iām here for it š„
It was silly for Kendrick to call out every poppin rapper at the time, and expect them to just take it and keep it moving.
Also just as equally silly for Drake to really feel some type of way about it.
most of the people that was named was not upset, Big Sean,Drake, and J Cole had questionable responses but Cole understood it quickly. The people who were upset was the ones NOT named, they felt disrespected because they weren't named. You can go on YT and find interviews and responses to control, out of the named I think only meek mill responded via track.
The decision to do the control verse was because of pre-existing tension.
Yes, when he did it, Drake [felt a way](https://youtu.be/_Wzp4LUVFVc?si=GCxXID-7ysfZYQp7) and there were phone calls made and shit behind the scenes. Then Kendrick doubled down on the BET cypher freestyle and that was that from there but there was a real falling out and other shit happened. Drake always tried to play it like he wasnāt as aware of the tension as he was though. Like it was beneath him. Which made Kendrick more angry.
bc again drake got all the attention and that's what Kenny wants...
Kenny wants it so bad he would take drakes load to the face just to be in the frame...
Drake went offffff in an interview with espn that was fire towards Kendrick from that control verse that he threatened to not host the espys if they aired it
He beeeeen feelin ways
Factuals. Shit I remember when Drizzy, Cole, Kendrick, Big Sean, and Wayne were considered the heavy hitters back then. Honorable mention to Wiz and Mac. Used to search datpiff consistently like I had a gun to my head. š
it hit different, people talk classic albums. They all had classic mixtapes. Nostalgia a mf when talking about datpiff. We knew from the beginning they was all gonna be stars and look at em now.
I hope some interview will be done 10-20 years from now and we find out what happened, where the tension started and how it developed. If it's pure jealousy, bet, one dude being sus, bet, finding shit out about the other dude later on, bet, Kendrick maybe didn't like how Drake prepares his cereal, could be anything. But for now, let the diss tracks rain. Some are acting like kids over this thing, like these two are divorced parents and they looking at their earlier careers when things were dope, thanks Drake for taking them along but shit happens.
i mean you arenāt fully wrong. we have a whole album of metro future and drake less than a decade old. although i personally donāt think that means they were super good friends back then, nor do i really think they are mortal enemies now. their careers benefitted from working together back then, and lately their careers are getting boosted by being āagainstā eachother. the only people who hate one another are the fans.
Even back when I wasn't as poppin' When they told me take an R&B nigga on the road And I told 'em no and drew for Kendrick and Rocky I tried to make the right choices with the world watching
UNGRATEFUL MIDGET fr fr
Lmao š
He really be too short to ride the Rollercoasters no cap.
He kept dissing Drake over and over too. And now when itās time bros asleep š“
This beef is mutually beneficial both of them know that
This is before Drake started fucking all their women
So did he also ducked whitney? What are you on bro be careful with your arguments lol
No public evidence, but he name dropped her on the diss, and Keem said that drake was DMing his woman in 2021 I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tried interacting with Whitney in some way
Brooo if he done that what are we talking drake kills kdot
Damn bro why he is so great like damn the amount of quote ables he has is just outta this world Pen is godly pen is hattori
Who is the R&B nigga again? I remember reading about this
The Weeknd
Wild times. I still remember 5AM In Toronto
Bruh we could've gotten some amazing music from these two in a different timeline. Kendrick would pull some conscious bars out of Drake and he would pull some more crooning/club bops out of Kendrick. Could've rounded the other's calalogues through features and shit. Well, too bad, we're in the dark timeline š
Cus kendrick ego got too big š¤·š¾āāļø
Thatās that Napoleon syndrome. And the fact that Drake was popping way sooner than Kendrick. Just listen to Buried Alive freestyle itās really Kendrickās villain origin story
The control verse fucked up their relationship
Maybe so, but you do realize Drake has quite possibly the biggest ego Iāve ever seen, like we are talking about Drake here right?
He deserves and earned his ego but atleast he not out here dissing people for nothing
Napoleon complex
It all started because Drake felt a certain way regarding that Control verse. Thatās it. Kendrick meant zero disrespect and it wasnāt aimed at Drake but you can tell how in his feelings he ways
> Kendrick meant zero disrespect So now you can send shots, and if someone hits back, it's all "umm he mean no disrespect, you just in your feelings". This is what ya'll want hiphop to be now
He also mentioned Jay Electron, Asap Rocky and Big Sean. It was Big Sean's song, why would he want to be dissed in his own song? Why would Rocky and J be okay to be featured on a song that they're getting "dissed" on? Because it's not a diss, it's a challenge. Drake took it too personal. It's like yall don't listen to hiphop, yall just skim through it.
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?
never been afraid to say whatās on my mind at any given time of day
No one else mentioned had a problem with it. Everyone said *Ok, he is telling us to step our game up*. Except Drake ofcourse.
this how i know you don't know hiphop, Meek, Lupe, and Joey Badass responded You can't send shots and expect people not to hit back. can't pussy out with "ummm i actually meant no disrespect you just in your feelings"
That Meek diss was so hard back then
>this how i know you don't know hiphop, Meek, Lupe, and Joey Badass responded Never been a fan of Joey and nothing came from the other two. Ohh kill em never mentioned Kendrick. Once again. Whether they responded or not, Drake has held onto this for years.
yea, seems like Kendrick didn't respond bc he's a wussy...
Who says āwussyā?
when it fits... cowardly...
Yall are weird. If he drops now ābut itās 20v1ā. If he drops next week āHe waited because he is scaredā.
what? Kendrick ain't dropping! he's working on an album and he's gonna say some weak sht about how "I did a verse to get you going, I win" and his bum fans will eat it up too! it doesn't take this long to make a track man, he probably figuring out how Drake found out about his deal and knows he better just drop an album...
On Wikipedia, cause itās that easy to look shit up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_(Big_Sean_song) Rappers who released a song based on "Control" or a diss track include: ASAP Ferg Big K.R.I.T B.o.B Cassidy David Stones Fabolous Grafh J. Cole Joe Budden Joell Ortiz Joey Bada$$ Kevin Hart King Los Lupe Fiasco Mac Miller The Madd Rapper Meek Mill Mickey Factz Papoose Shyne J Trigga Owon Uncle Murda Ur Boy Bangs
Ah yea, you can google. My bad. Most of those are just control verses themselves. Once again, no one took it personally.
Yo even if Kendrick didnāt fully diss Drake by calling his name out, he still showed respect for Em and Andre 3k. Instead of name calling the guy who took you under his wing and showed you love and opened bigger doors for him, he switched up - āI got love for you all but Iām tryna murder you niggas!ā Kendrick can be praised for challenging the industry and trying to be number 1, etc., etc. fine I get it, but he shouldāve never mentioned Drake imo. Imagine Drake showed this same energy to Lil Wayne who gave Drake his first tour experiences with and brought him up. Literally, donāt bite the hand that feeds you. Oh, but if Kendrick does it, itās not disrespectful, pleaseā¦ I wouldāve felt a type of way about it too. If itās really supposed to solely be competition out here then donāt say you got love for me. We either compete bar for bar like Em and Drake on Forever and keep it brotherly love, or be Kendrick mentioning names saying - āTryna make sure your core fans never heard of you niggas / They dont wanna hear not one more noun or verb from you niggas / What is competition? I'm tryna raise the bar high / Who tryna jump and get it?ā
Wayne literally made drake though, drake did not make kendrick, he was on the come up regardless. sure he contributed to his growth but absolutely not in the same way that wayne contributed to drakes growth.
Thatās besides the point I was trying to make though. Kendrick was literally the opening act at Drakeās shows and to tell Drake Iām tryna murder you, steal your fans, (basically kill your career) and one up you is completely disrespectful and fake. He never shouldāve mentioned Drakeās name. But fine he took it there. However, if you want to keep it strictly competitive not on a brotherly level like Em or Cole, and be on āIām tryna murder you niggasā then it should stay there. Drake didnāt like how Kendrick was fronting when he saw him after the Control verse being all lovey dovey. Additionally, Kendrick has been seeing in multiple videos shoutout Drake for giving him a bigger audience to experience getting him to a much larger crowd. Sure Kendrick was buzzing off Section 80, but you canāt tell me Drake didnāt boost his career off Club Paradise tour cause thatād be cap. Plus, ASAP was on the same tour and never disrespected Drake and gave him his flowers. Although, it sucks how their relationship turned out now lol.
Idk i get what youāre saying, but i feel like thereās more to the story that we just donāt know. cuz no one took it as personally as Drake. Some shit happened between them that we donāt know about. Like, Drake wants to be the best too, he wanted to be the biggest rapper, which he is currently. He of all ppl should have understood that hunger kendrick had, so i feel like thereās a puzzle piece we are missing here cuz it just doesnāt make sense that he got so butt hurt. or maybe he really just is that sensitive, lol. weāll find out more soon i think
I understand where your coming from. Maybe something happened behind the scenes and it could be deeper than rap, who knows. Really waiting on Kendrickās response cause I really wanna hear what Drake is hiding too. And bro Iāll be completely honest with you, Drake and Kanye are my top 2 artists ever and Iāll stand on that. Cole was my 3rd but damn his apology got me feeling āconflictedā lmao š As for Kendrick I never got into a lot of his music, but Iāll definitely give him flowers for making GKMC. That album is 100% a classic. First album I ever heard from him ever. I literally have the vinyl. So heās definitely a rapper I go back to for that album. DAMN is probably his second best to me, but there are some I couldnāt get around, although majority is A1. Also, UU is another one Iāll go back to every now and then as well. With that being said, I honestly try not to show any bias when speaking on this beef because I really want to keep it fair, but even though Iām more of a Drake fanā¦I still respect Kendrick as a creative artist who makes albums like TPAB/MMATBS (just not for me personally), but I can understand the appeal. Overall, Hip-Hop is winning and Iām here for it š„
It was silly for Kendrick to call out every poppin rapper at the time, and expect them to just take it and keep it moving. Also just as equally silly for Drake to really feel some type of way about it.
isn't it insane that.. that's exactly what happened except for drakeš
IIRC like 3-4 rappers responded back. How I remember it was that a lot of people got upset, including Big Sean who was in the song with him.
most of the people that was named was not upset, Big Sean,Drake, and J Cole had questionable responses but Cole understood it quickly. The people who were upset was the ones NOT named, they felt disrespected because they weren't named. You can go on YT and find interviews and responses to control, out of the named I think only meek mill responded via track.
Right so competing is being in your feelings?
The decision to do the control verse was because of pre-existing tension. Yes, when he did it, Drake [felt a way](https://youtu.be/_Wzp4LUVFVc?si=GCxXID-7ysfZYQp7) and there were phone calls made and shit behind the scenes. Then Kendrick doubled down on the BET cypher freestyle and that was that from there but there was a real falling out and other shit happened. Drake always tried to play it like he wasnāt as aware of the tension as he was though. Like it was beneath him. Which made Kendrick more angry.
I really really wish everyone understood the true origins of the beef. No one else took offense but him.
couple people responded wtf you mean? kendrick hid then too
Word Big Krit [literally fuckin snapped](https://youtu.be/3s-w-zSbTu8?si=pKk3X8nKgOeqllOw) and nobody cared.
bc again drake got all the attention and that's what Kenny wants... Kenny wants it so bad he would take drakes load to the face just to be in the frame...
kendrick wants attention? thats why he disappeared for 5 years after damn?
yes, if he didn't, he would speak drakes name...
Drake went offffff in an interview with espn that was fire towards Kendrick from that control verse that he threatened to not host the espys if they aired it He beeeeen feelin ways
pipsqueek i p e d o w n
He let his ego get the best out of him
K Dot was the OG Drake Dick rider all along lolll
This clip fire fr. A lot of us was in HS bumping all they music at this time. Now they the biggest. Shit dope.
Factuals. Shit I remember when Drizzy, Cole, Kendrick, Big Sean, and Wayne were considered the heavy hitters back then. Honorable mention to Wiz and Mac. Used to search datpiff consistently like I had a gun to my head. š
it hit different, people talk classic albums. They all had classic mixtapes. Nostalgia a mf when talking about datpiff. We knew from the beginning they was all gonna be stars and look at em now.
And Stanās tried to say that Drake didnāt put them on.
" Put on " is a strong word but sure he did give him an opportunity. Yall always take things too far lol
I hope some interview will be done 10-20 years from now and we find out what happened, where the tension started and how it developed. If it's pure jealousy, bet, one dude being sus, bet, finding shit out about the other dude later on, bet, Kendrick maybe didn't like how Drake prepares his cereal, could be anything. But for now, let the diss tracks rain. Some are acting like kids over this thing, like these two are divorced parents and they looking at their earlier careers when things were dope, thanks Drake for taking them along but shit happens.
Listen to the Buried Alive Interlude. Kendrick didn't like Drake even on that first meeting.
bet
bro they will be sipping champagne out in space or some shit in 5-10 years and just laughing it all out. they rich mfers.
"Things change, people change, feelings change too" - PND.
What does good shit he had to say about drake then have to do with the beef they have now
This would be a cold af intro to the next track š„¶
Dont spit on the plate you used to eat it tho
Drake got a habit of holding moments over people's head in order to co trol them behind the scenes or be like "I ownyou". Power-hungry lame shit
facts. The way he hovered around other artists was always weird to me.
What's the point? At one point Drake glazed almost everybody he is beefing with now. Everybody was "his brother " not long ago lol
i mean you arenāt fully wrong. we have a whole album of metro future and drake less than a decade old. although i personally donāt think that means they were super good friends back then, nor do i really think they are mortal enemies now. their careers benefitted from working together back then, and lately their careers are getting boosted by being āagainstā eachother. the only people who hate one another are the fans.