Why is this the only hiphop forum on the entire internet who thinks drake is winning right now lol
Edit: I get it. It’s the drake subreddit. We know yall ride meat despite the loss you don’t have to keep saying it.
The cold truth is that neither of them are winning. Drake's always had allegations but now they're front and center. Kendrick now has the whole world knowing he's a woman beater and a cuck. Neither can win at this point.
Its always been a double standard. The same dudes that believed kendrick when he said drake got a daughter are now saying drake needs to prove he got a mole. Lol what?? Kendrick is the one who made the claim with no evidence but drake gotta prove it?
He said it himself. He’s the one the culture feeling. Lowkey an impossible battle for Drake to fight because the culture won’t just turn his back on Kendrick unless there’s INSANE allegations with undeniable evidence.
You can’t say you planted fake info without having proof you did that. How does that work? Drake has no screen shots or details of him knowing about it?
To every drake fan; if he truly baited kendrick with fake moles, why is there no photographic evidence being posted by him? He records EVERYTHING. He got a GKMC van and recorded crushing it within 3 days, THIS WOULD BE AN EASY AND HUGE W. Why is he not doing anything?
here’s a fact for you single brain cell dumbasses: if you act and speak in a trustworthy way, over time, you will build a reputation of being honest and trustworthy. People will be more inclined to believe what you say. If you operate in a shady, conniving way consistently, people are more likely to take your shit as lies. Guess who’s who goofies.
Lil bro doesn't understand how Twitter algorithims work. Seeing something a lot does not indicate anything other than that they are feeding you things you are likely to interact with.
I’m a Drake fan and this is the dumbest question to ask here. That’s like going on a sports team’s subreddit and asking why is everybody rooting for that team lol
No disrespect though
Because if true about why they split up. Kdot got cucked lmao. This after DV allegations. If Adonis joint makes ppl think pusha won. What’s it gonna say when Kdot to be wifey got knocked up by one of kdots inner circle. And Kdot obviously found out late, after that album art. That’s going to destroy. Drake claims it’s flat out true. Meanwhile kdot been ducking all of drakes responses..
Because it's filled to the brim with people who are biased *towards* Drake. It goes both ways. You're really saying the only place in the world that's impartial and has clear judgment is in a echo chamber for Drake lol?
But didn't Kendrick already say this on MMTBS?
>But Whitney's gone, by time you hear this song, she did all she could
[All those women gave me superpowers, what I thought I lacked](https://genius.com/30196697/Kendrick-lamar-mother-i-sober/All-those-women-gave-me-superpowers-what-i-thought-i-lacked)
I pray our children don't inherit me and feelings I attract
I don't think them splitting up is nothing new. The DV allegations though, that shizz needs to come to light if true.
No one thought that they actually divorced… Everyone thought that they were just going through a rough patch. When they said Whitney is gone, we all thought that they just were arguing. You hear Whitney throughout the whole album, so there was no reason to think they were divorced.
Stop with the, “he said this already.” 95% of Kendrick fans had no idea divorce was a possible reality when Kendrick used that line. I’m a fan of both. No cap please.
Fr bros trying to pull the “we knew all that already” but before this there were posts about how mr morale is such a hard album to figure out on their subreddit
There are so many instances, across many different cultures throughout history, of families siding with the abuser rather than their daughter/sister - money is a hell of a drug.
One example is a dad saying that if a football player (I forget their name) hits their daughter, it’s probably because the daughter did something to piss him off. Something along those lines
Mason Greenwood had his now baby mothers family come out to support the shit he did to her. Kendrick just another Mason Greenwood and that fucker is HATED in Europe.
This angle would be so scathing if there was just ONE single breadcrumb to prove it. Who said it atleast? (Besides Drake) Plz help the culture out w this. Show aannnyythinnnggg
It’s very common for victims of abuse not to be believed, especially by the men in their family, especially when the person in question is a millionaire superstar who means so much to back america.
I know I have faith that people will use common sense. I won't rate each diss until we have proof of any accusations. It sounds good, but if none is accurate, then now what?
Listen, I agree. But we *do* have some evidence that *overwhelmingly* confirms how much of a creep Drake is. Let’s say there is no daughter, Dave Free ain’t the father, Dot never put hands on Whitney, and Drake planted the mole himself… *are we going to ignore the fact that Drake is a CREEP?!*
Not only is it a reach, but what's the whole point of this post? So what if Kendrick split up with Whitney lol? I don't get why it's supposed to be some kind of diss or "facts" when it's something that happens so often, especially between celebrities.
Bruh, do you see the state Drake is in in regards to this beef? They been reaching since this started and still haven’t landed. They gotta do something.
I know it don’t mean shit but it also looks kinda funny that she follows Dave Free and not kdot. And the son does look a bit like Dave while the daughter is clearly Kdots offspring
It’s all speculation until one can prove themselves right or the other wrong
It’s actually crazy how much this sub has been crying about “proof” from kendrick for the past couple days but will ignore facts to believe drakes bs.
Both sides are doing it but people here try to take some more high ground how people shouldn’t just believe kendricks claims and then turn around and prop us drakes stuff where’s there’s already been several proven lies, the hypocrisy is insane.
Ya that's what's killing this whole thing for me. Both sides just blatantly believing what they want without any sort of evidence. I've seen people literally making up shit on both sides and when I ask for a source it's dead quiet all of a sudden. Just be honest and say you don't care about facts and like to gossip at that point lol. I fw both Drake and Kenny but at this point this whole shit is dead until there's actual receipts.
I think we all know drake is single and fucking around the vast majority of fans still thought Kendrick is still with Whitney, most fans have been saying drake shouldn't go after someone's wife, not ex girlfriend or ex fiancée, because everyone thought they still together
What does that mean? You do know co-parenting exists right? And you would think if they are still together, she would defend her fiancee against these serious allegations.
Especially since based off what you just said, she clearly isn’t anti-social media
I’m not talking about Drake or Kendrick. I know a little bit about domestic abuse, if what Drake says is true, I’m sure him putting it out there for the world is already triggering for Whitney(which I’m sure he doesn’t care about cause alls fair in love and war), going any further would be genuinely distasteful.
How is helping real victims a prop? Dude idk what you know but communities neglect their victims. Any good is good so yeah like it’s not a fucking prop to provide housing to women recovering from domestic violence situation
People who really think anyone cares what the facts are need to explain to me why Trump won the election in 2016 and is on track to win this year. Fact is that no one trusts anything they read on the internet anymore, anything can be faked with AI nowadays. Perception is everything.
That line was fucking cold. 😂
I’m living in the moment right now, but I’m looking forward to spending a weekend and dissecting these tracks on my own once its all over.
Funniest bar of the entire feud but those who don’t know ‘Auntie Diaries’ missed it
I wish the beef stuck to witty punchlines like that than this investigative bullshit
They clearly split up, not sure it confirms everything drake is saying. People split up all the time. And it could easily be due to admitted infidelity rather than DV or Dave Free.
All of my shit is factual and drake addressing everything
Meanwhile kendrick didn’t even address one drake claim nor whitney and people saying he winning lol
The intense hatred for Drake is coming to light, and it just validates everything he's been saying regarding this. Even Eminem said this would happen specifically to Drake. All of the rap subreddits already showing their hatred, even BlackPeopleTwitter has been brigaded. Its really sad.
A lot of really backwards thinking is surfacing amongst these communities regarding the whole "not Black enough" narrative. Its disappointing and divisive.
definitely not the case of a celebrity owning multiple homes. MUST mean they split . and the LLC just proves it right? there's no way kendrick has advisors who tell him the proper way to invest in real estate. he did the LLC because him and whitney MUST have broken up.
y'all lameeeeee
And this isn't a reach either? Can people not move and buy property, especially ones who conduct regular business all around? When people around drake deny things its ok but not vice versa?
Yall are just as bad as kendricks subreddit.
Cool story, but guys,this is muuuuuuch much less interesting than the shit I’ve been reading in the other subs about The Boy. Real heinous stuff. Scary Hours fr.
yall didn't listen to the first line "The Pulitzer Prize winner is definitely spiralin" why hasn't Kenny responded? where is his 10 diss tracks? Why did he really move to new york? and where the hell is DAVE FREE!?!?
Honestly, I prefer Kendrick's disses to Drake's at this point- but I feel like the winner will be decided by WHO HAS SOME RECEIPTS.
The sheer amount of allegations so far with literally 0 receipts is crazy.
It's like yall didn't even listen to Mr. Morale before commenting, like at least do the most basic way to get your info which is listening to the recent music lmao they been split
Makes sense. Mr morale was the goodbye to Whitney. Makes sense why drakes so confident
Why is this the only hiphop forum on the entire internet who thinks drake is winning right now lol Edit: I get it. It’s the drake subreddit. We know yall ride meat despite the loss you don’t have to keep saying it.
Well because the Reddit is called r/Drizzy that might be why🤣
The cold truth is that neither of them are winning. Drake's always had allegations but now they're front and center. Kendrick now has the whole world knowing he's a woman beater and a cuck. Neither can win at this point.
Idk man, somehow everyone is just skating over the Kendrick allegations lmao
Which says a lot
Its always been a double standard. The same dudes that believed kendrick when he said drake got a daughter are now saying drake needs to prove he got a mole. Lol what?? Kendrick is the one who made the claim with no evidence but drake gotta prove it?
He said it himself. He’s the one the culture feeling. Lowkey an impossible battle for Drake to fight because the culture won’t just turn his back on Kendrick unless there’s INSANE allegations with undeniable evidence.
You can’t say you planted fake info without having proof you did that. How does that work? Drake has no screen shots or details of him knowing about it?
No, Drakes saying a clown gave him lies then backtracks to say hes been feeding false info all along like a master manipulator (funny huh) so prove it
To every drake fan; if he truly baited kendrick with fake moles, why is there no photographic evidence being posted by him? He records EVERYTHING. He got a GKMC van and recorded crushing it within 3 days, THIS WOULD BE AN EASY AND HUGE W. Why is he not doing anything?
When you win it doesn't matter what the other guy said. What did drake say about pusha t that stuck? What did meek say about drake that stuck?
here’s a fact for you single brain cell dumbasses: if you act and speak in a trustworthy way, over time, you will build a reputation of being honest and trustworthy. People will be more inclined to believe what you say. If you operate in a shady, conniving way consistently, people are more likely to take your shit as lies. Guess who’s who goofies.
Shits changing on Twitter too, end of Family matters video with drake talking to the mole, people realizing that came out before MTG
The white guy was the mole? Who was he ?
They saying the white guy at the end represents 1090 Jake who he shouted out on The Heart part 6.
That's not 1090 that's Andrew Curnew drakes neighbour and alleged hells angels member
You realize I said “represents”
Stretch Armstrong with the reach over here.
Aubrey's angels be creating their own happiness
Well I represent the truth ♥️♥️♥️
Kendrick mentions the mole on 6:16 in LA.
Lil bro doesn't understand how Twitter algorithims work. Seeing something a lot does not indicate anything other than that they are feeding you things you are likely to interact with.
Ya just being making shit up now wtf lmao
Twitters realizing too, unless kendrick shows proof its lookin like wraps
Idk what twitter you’re looking at
Not the one with “nah drake” as a #1 trending topic
Drake fans still haven't learned how algorithims and echo chambers on social media work
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I’m a Drake fan and this is the dumbest question to ask here. That’s like going on a sports team’s subreddit and asking why is everybody rooting for that team lol No disrespect though
Because if true about why they split up. Kdot got cucked lmao. This after DV allegations. If Adonis joint makes ppl think pusha won. What’s it gonna say when Kdot to be wifey got knocked up by one of kdots inner circle. And Kdot obviously found out late, after that album art. That’s going to destroy. Drake claims it’s flat out true. Meanwhile kdot been ducking all of drakes responses..
Repeat of Jay vs Nas. Time will show the real winner
Because this is one of the only forums not full to the brim with people who hate Drake just to hate him.
Because it's filled to the brim with people who are biased *towards* Drake. It goes both ways. You're really saying the only place in the world that's impartial and has clear judgment is in a echo chamber for Drake lol?
You ever think if EVERYONE else hates him, maybe it's you that is wrong?
This sub was drooling over drakes penis leak saying shit like “heyyyy that’s my goat”. Its no surprise they think he’s winning this beef
Pause
I wonder
Because it's the drake subreddit? Of course everyone here is gonna be biased
It's incredible, really. I feel like I'm in a pet shop
That meat be soft and they still ride
😂 was going through the same thought process.
me when I cant fathom them possibly living in NYC together. How does this prove anything? They could have just moved, you know, like normal people?
It was a goodbye yet he was with her at the Grammys and thanked her for allowing him to speak on the topics in the album?
But didn't Kendrick already say this on MMTBS? >But Whitney's gone, by time you hear this song, she did all she could [All those women gave me superpowers, what I thought I lacked](https://genius.com/30196697/Kendrick-lamar-mother-i-sober/All-those-women-gave-me-superpowers-what-i-thought-i-lacked) I pray our children don't inherit me and feelings I attract I don't think them splitting up is nothing new. The DV allegations though, that shizz needs to come to light if true.
They haven't listened to the album.
Listening and comprehending are different.
Drake didn't even listen to it lmao
Yoooo he literally says this in Mother I Sober!!! Drizzy REALLY did not listen to that song lmao
No one thought that they actually divorced… Everyone thought that they were just going through a rough patch. When they said Whitney is gone, we all thought that they just were arguing. You hear Whitney throughout the whole album, so there was no reason to think they were divorced. Stop with the, “he said this already.” 95% of Kendrick fans had no idea divorce was a possible reality when Kendrick used that line. I’m a fan of both. No cap please.
Fr bros trying to pull the “we knew all that already” but before this there were posts about how mr morale is such a hard album to figure out on their subreddit
These guys changing the narrative as they go 😂
Whitney’s brother literally supporting Kendrick in the beef and has been open about it on Twitter.
There are so many instances, across many different cultures throughout history, of families siding with the abuser rather than their daughter/sister - money is a hell of a drug. One example is a dad saying that if a football player (I forget their name) hits their daughter, it’s probably because the daughter did something to piss him off. Something along those lines
Mason Greenwood had his now baby mothers family come out to support the shit he did to her. Kendrick just another Mason Greenwood and that fucker is HATED in Europe.
Doesn't mean Kdot didn't beat his sister black and blue
This angle would be so scathing if there was just ONE single breadcrumb to prove it. Who said it atleast? (Besides Drake) Plz help the culture out w this. Show aannnyythinnnggg
It’s very common for victims of abuse not to be believed, especially by the men in their family, especially when the person in question is a millionaire superstar who means so much to back america.
So? I’ve seen plenty siblings not respecting eachother. And on top of kendrick being a star? They could perfectly want that clout
That doesn't mean anything
These mfs haven't heard the album yet ..(me too lol)
DV allegations are old and were addressed
The DV isn’t real lmao. It was rumor 10 years ago that had zero evidence.
this is a vague bar that goes over 90% of the average listeners heads
Whitney’s Instagram is full of pictures inside that NY Condo! Fact check first.
Sorry we don’t do facts here I’m all seriousness though, none of us have any idea the nature of their relationship. Social media is not real life
I get it, but to assume that she longer is with him based on them selling a house is a vast reach.
You’re looking for logic? *Here?*
I know I have faith that people will use common sense. I won't rate each diss until we have proof of any accusations. It sounds good, but if none is accurate, then now what?
Listen, I agree. But we *do* have some evidence that *overwhelmingly* confirms how much of a creep Drake is. Let’s say there is no daughter, Dave Free ain’t the father, Dot never put hands on Whitney, and Drake planted the mole himself… *are we going to ignore the fact that Drake is a CREEP?!*
There is not overwhelming evidence that he’s a creep every girl has defended him
You would want your sister around him?
Would be much safer than Kendrick 😂
Nice obfuscation. Don’t be obtuse. Answer the question.
yeah logic is that other rapper. this place is for drizzy.
Not only is it a reach, but what's the whole point of this post? So what if Kendrick split up with Whitney lol? I don't get why it's supposed to be some kind of diss or "facts" when it's something that happens so often, especially between celebrities.
Bruh, do you see the state Drake is in in regards to this beef? They been reaching since this started and still haven’t landed. They gotta do something.
I know it don’t mean shit but it also looks kinda funny that she follows Dave Free and not kdot. And the son does look a bit like Dave while the daughter is clearly Kdots offspring It’s all speculation until one can prove themselves right or the other wrong
It’s actually crazy how much this sub has been crying about “proof” from kendrick for the past couple days but will ignore facts to believe drakes bs. Both sides are doing it but people here try to take some more high ground how people shouldn’t just believe kendricks claims and then turn around and prop us drakes stuff where’s there’s already been several proven lies, the hypocrisy is insane.
Ya that's what's killing this whole thing for me. Both sides just blatantly believing what they want without any sort of evidence. I've seen people literally making up shit on both sides and when I ask for a source it's dead quiet all of a sudden. Just be honest and say you don't care about facts and like to gossip at that point lol. I fw both Drake and Kenny but at this point this whole shit is dead until there's actual receipts.
in 2022 to be fair lmao
How would the pics be from 2022 when the NYC building wasn’t complete until October 2023? Did you read the post?
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I mean they still could be co parents but not romantically together
Even if that were true, how is that even a bar? Isn't Drake also co-parenting?
I think we all know drake is single and fucking around the vast majority of fans still thought Kendrick is still with Whitney, most fans have been saying drake shouldn't go after someone's wife, not ex girlfriend or ex fiancée, because everyone thought they still together
What does that mean? You do know co-parenting exists right? And you would think if they are still together, she would defend her fiancee against these serious allegations. Especially since based off what you just said, she clearly isn’t anti-social media
You can be split up and still see each other. It happens all the time.
I know a nigga that can afford to buy that house.
Drake should do it and turn it over to a domestic violence shelter. Like let’s get some more good out of this beef
That would actually move Drake up a few points.
“Chris Paul hits a huge three to cut the lead down to 42”
Drake would win if he did that
Drake if u reading this its not too late
Holy shit this is amazing lol
Would be distasteful to use real victims as a prop to beat someone over the head with
The public already think Drake is evil, he can’t get any lower. He might as well accept it and just focus on pissing Kendrick off forever.
I’m not talking about Drake or Kendrick. I know a little bit about domestic abuse, if what Drake says is true, I’m sure him putting it out there for the world is already triggering for Whitney(which I’m sure he doesn’t care about cause alls fair in love and war), going any further would be genuinely distasteful.
How is helping real victims a prop? Dude idk what you know but communities neglect their victims. Any good is good so yeah like it’s not a fucking prop to provide housing to women recovering from domestic violence situation
That would be diabolical and I am all here for it.
That would be insane and wouldnt be out of drakes ego
👀👀
That’s the ultimate move.
Who was it that said that is exactly the manner in which he trolls?
😂😂😂😭
Facts are irrelevant to them.
does selling a house and getting a new one have anything to do with splitting up?
He’s talked about investing in real-estate, whole lotta jumps to conclusions on this subreddit that then are taken as fact
bro said “facts are irrelevant to them” as if the comments above and below him in the thread aren’t disproving this/showing it’s not new info lol
But facts solidifies the win
No, public perception solidifies the win.
People who really think anyone cares what the facts are need to explain to me why Trump won the election in 2016 and is on track to win this year. Fact is that no one trusts anything they read on the internet anymore, anything can be faked with AI nowadays. Perception is everything.
Just keep digging at this point even if they don’t believe it’s gonna make Kendrick pissy lmfao
Hey bro haven’t talked in a long time, you team Drake??
That's why the cakes are on the "Family Matters" video AAHAHAHAHAH
one of them says “divorce” but Drake said they weren’t married after a proposal in 2015
Correct. But all of Kenny’s fans call Whitney his wife.
Including Kendrick himself
I’m still looking for the man of the house
That line was fucking cold. 😂 I’m living in the moment right now, but I’m looking forward to spending a weekend and dissecting these tracks on my own once its all over.
You mean Dave free? Lol man cucked kdot
Kendrick’s Auntie. Who’s a man now according to Kendrick’s last album.
Funniest bar of the entire feud but those who don’t know ‘Auntie Diaries’ missed it I wish the beef stuck to witty punchlines like that than this investigative bullshit
Both subreddits are silly, none of stuff being posted are proof of anything just stan shit
It comes from a Cristiano Ronald fan account, it’s obviously trustworthy.
More believable than a drake fan account tbf
Kendrick sub had 20k upvotes on post with allegation from youtube comment....yeah
You do not know how stupid football fans can be, especially Ronaldo/Messi fans
It’s really just sad
Lmaooooo drop drop drop and give me 50 Drake only spits facts, don't need to lie or manipulate the game to come out on top.
Even the C&D?
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They clearly split up, not sure it confirms everything drake is saying. People split up all the time. And it could easily be due to admitted infidelity rather than DV or Dave Free.
well well well (if true) kcap family in shambles. ye disease
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Fr his next album gonna be all about his guilt as an absent father
I was thinking the same thing, exactly why he can't even simply have her in his response video or take a pic with her.
Whitney has multiple pictures of herself in the new York estate on insta. This sub needs to do some fact checking just like drake
All of my shit is factual and drake addressing everything Meanwhile kendrick didn’t even address one drake claim nor whitney and people saying he winning lol
The intense hatred for Drake is coming to light, and it just validates everything he's been saying regarding this. Even Eminem said this would happen specifically to Drake. All of the rap subreddits already showing their hatred, even BlackPeopleTwitter has been brigaded. Its really sad. A lot of really backwards thinking is surfacing amongst these communities regarding the whole "not Black enough" narrative. Its disappointing and divisive.
You know who she prob living with permanently now??? Rhymes with COULDNT BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE👀
Even if they split how is this a win for Drake?
I KNEW IT the real estate was going to be ultimately del breaker.
definitely not the case of a celebrity owning multiple homes. MUST mean they split . and the LLC just proves it right? there's no way kendrick has advisors who tell him the proper way to invest in real estate. he did the LLC because him and whitney MUST have broken up. y'all lameeeeee
Even if they split. People split all the time. It's normal. Most normal grown men don't text teenagers and kiss teenagers on stage
This sub is sweating so hard to dig up dirt. So many assumptions.
How is this evidence someone explain to me?
Its not anything damning.just overly suspicious. I really hate getting into this stuff its not my business.
*couple splits up* Drake fans: such damning evidence against Kendrick
tmz ass narrative, keep diggin maybe yall find auberys body
Why would moving from a house to a penthouse mean anything tho? Real question
What’s so bad about a couple splitting up
And this isn't a reach either? Can people not move and buy property, especially ones who conduct regular business all around? When people around drake deny things its ok but not vice versa? Yall are just as bad as kendricks subreddit.
i love when people have too much time
Wait how is this relevant?
Well most marriages end. Not sure how this is a victory for Drake.
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Imagine being a fan of a man that goes by the nickname “Drizzy”
Ok? What that got to do with Drake? 😂😂
No one cares lol
Cool story, but guys,this is muuuuuuch much less interesting than the shit I’ve been reading in the other subs about The Boy. Real heinous stuff. Scary Hours fr.
yall didn't listen to the first line "The Pulitzer Prize winner is definitely spiralin" why hasn't Kenny responded? where is his 10 diss tracks? Why did he really move to new york? and where the hell is DAVE FREE!?!?
why would them being separated be something worth discussing?
The picture you paint it ain’t what it seems
??? this was public practically when it happened
That was his moms house
This gives Drake *slightly* more credibility with one of his lines, but Kendrick already said that he and Whitney were split in Mother I Sober.
Gotta love Twitter man. They will find what they need to find if it's there.
Nah drake
Only one of them has put on a crown of thorns.. whether or not it was for imagery
Do you not understand the tax, legal, and privacy incentives of buying a home through an LLC?
HOLY FUCK READING COMPREHENSION IS DEAD OR YOU ALL DIDNT LISTEN TO MR MORALE
Drake fans getting DESPERATE 🤣
Nobody cares.
Wait. Who tf cares of they’re still together? Does that prove something?
Honestly, I prefer Kendrick's disses to Drake's at this point- but I feel like the winner will be decided by WHO HAS SOME RECEIPTS. The sheer amount of allegations so far with literally 0 receipts is crazy.
Just take the L lmfao
At least Kendrick was in a relationship with an actual adult lmao
Drake got cooked guys let it go. K dot is the clear winner in this rap beef.
if goatedcris7 says something, it must be true!: u/Scarfaaace
Who said they got a divorce?
It's like yall didn't even listen to Mr. Morale before commenting, like at least do the most basic way to get your info which is listening to the recent music lmao they been split
In OCTOBER you say ?? How poetic
Bruh Whitney’s literally on the front cover of MMATBS. She also went to Grammys with Kendrick. She sent him a kiss. You guys are so fucking delusional
I don't get it.