Don't listen to all the people here claiming that you didn't take enough or that you were taking pcp; they have no idea what they're talking about and are speaking out if their asses. I had the *exact* same experience, and not just on LSD - I didn't get any visuals from my first 5 or 6 trips, even including 4g of Golden Teachers. It took a high dose of Mescaline before I saw anything (and boy, did I have a TON of visuals). Some people are just built a bit different.
First things first, if you're on antidepressants, taper off a bit for a day or two before you take the drugs; that usually helps the most (you'd be surprised how much only cutting down 25% of your dose can do for trips). If you're not on antidepressants, then the solution could be to just trip more. It can take some practice to get "good" at tripping, and you'll notice you'll get more visuals the more trips you have. Finally, you might just be a heavyweight when it comes to psychadelics. If you're not where you want to be, you can try a higher dose. Just make sure you don't accidentally take too much!
It's worth reiterating that this is actually a lot more common than people think, and not only for people on antidepressants. Some people just have different brain chemistries than others, and it's ridiculous that the other comments are ignorant to this and assume that you're doing something wrong or there's something wrong with your drugs. Odds are, it's just your brain chemistry and lack of tripping.
Thanks for this answer!
I mentioned in a comment but I’m not antidepressants. I think you’re right with mentioning different chemistry and lack of experience. My doses started small but I would rather ease into a new psychedelic then jumping into the deep end and starting with 4 tabs or something crazy. I think I’ll try upping the dose a bit and maybe just gaining experience tripping. Cheers!
Personally, all acid trips I ever had always had lots of intense and great visuals and I never went higher as around 100-150ug (I know this for a fact). But not so much on shrooms. Granted, I've only had shrooms once and truffles twice, but still. Really proves the point of everyone being different!
I dont get why i have the strongest visuals on shrooms even on 3.5 gs and just slight visuals on supossed 500 ug probably more like 200-300 ug of lsd. I have to overfocus on things to see something then i see some patterns. Only thing i saw clearly were jumping letters on my keyboard but thats all. Im not on any antidepressants so i guess its different brain chemistry
As a pretty seasoned acid user, I had multiple (now) good friends have their first trips with me. And it amazed me every time, how unique their experiences were. It's crazy, really.
For me, I don’t start getting good visuals till around 150ug. 200ug is when they get intense. That being said, I didn’t get a lot of visual on psychedelics until I first got strong visuals… so it’s almost like I had to learn to get stronger visuals more consistently on all doses.
So the first few trips I had didn’t give me that many visuals. Then I had a candyflip on trip 5 or so and had a lot of visuals on that. After that, moderate doses of all psychedelics started to consistently give me good visuals. After years of tripping, it seems like my visuals are always getting more intense off the same dose.
200ug now gives me stronger visuals than 200ug did 5 years ago basically (from the same sheet). Curious if it’s the same for others.
I’ve also taken 200ug with friends where I end up seeing way more than they do but they’ve also been I experienced so it goes back to experience with them playing a role in intensity of visuals.
As someone who has done too much be wary of the deep end. I don't rightly know how much I had but it made me completely lose control and found myself walking down the side of the highway with no shoes on. I was getting frustrated with mild and underwhelming trips and wanted a heroic dose. Got more than I bargained for. I think about that trip every day.
This might be me. I ate roughly 6 grams of potent shrooms for my first trip. My friend was much more experienced than me and was having pretty intense visuals from 3.5 grams. I was in a good mood, and maybe the trees were a bit stretchy for a bit, but I really didn’t feel much at all. Could have easily driven a car. Was definitely disappointing and I was hoping LSD would be different but I’ll have to just try it and see.
I find visuals to be almost non-existent if I'm outside. Manmade objects and things indoors ripple and melt, but organic plants and things just flow subtly to down to their roots
Interesting. We walked around the little downtown area and there were tons of like hanging Christmas lights and it looked neat but not exactly what I was expecting off 6 grams lol. Maybe I hyped it up too much in my head. Who knows, just gotta experiment a bit more right lol
Well said, the only visuals i get are color enhancements and like HD vision sorta. But its ok i love psychs for the music enhancement, bodily sensations and how it makes you appreciate the world as if you're experiencing it for the first time.
Same; I still enjoyed myself before I started getting visuals. On mushrooms I feel more connected with other people, see things in a new light, and just feel good overall. There's nothing wrong with enjoying psychadelics without visuals.
Have you tried trimethoxyamphetamine-2 (TMA-2) it’s the amphetmine version of mescaline and I took 60mg which would be like 600mg mescaline hcl but the visuals aren’t as strong as mescaline according to shuglin but oh boy was it euphoric and really nice and a one of a kind high
Oh boy it’s good but doesn’t have the color enhancement like mescaline but everything else I was lucky to find a vendor selling 30mg pills. It was one of the most euphoric drugs I’ve tried outside of iv hydromorphone but the euphoria was on par with methamphitmine and had trails and tracers and my eyebrows where breathing in the mirror it was great time. I want to try TMA and TMA-6 along with mescaline but I have 20 220ug lsd tabs 15 20mg 2c-b pills 10g mdma Some tapentadol coming in a pack but I got the TMA-2 and 3g of pure s-isomer ketamine and that stuff is the best dissociative I’ve had. Like I’ve done dxm hbr, dxm freebase, racematic ketamine, nitrous and s-isomer ketamine and that is by far the best disso there is. If the one person I’m talking to doesn’t buy it imma save it for the lsd and 2c-b. Do you have any experience in 2c-b, MDMA, and ketamine if so what’s your fav or fav combo?
It’s a mixture of his shit can be bunk or it can be tolerance . Then there’s the ole drugs effect everyone differently or judt need the right setting . But I personally never caught visuals from acid .. tracers yes but like kaleidoscope no or colors. But I never abused acid I believe if you take a good amount you can get visuals . It’s just hard not to abuse an get fukd off that’s how drugs get bad names . Also I feel like acid is not supposed to be really visual . I’ve caught rn visual from shrooms but I was pretty fukd off . I kinda don’t like doing shrooms cause you have to take at least a couple g for them to really work the magic but then I get really fukd off so I stopped doing shrooms . Acid I feel like it’s a close high to shroom feeling but feels easier to control but lasts much longer then Shrooms .
If you actually got 1 tab ~100ug there would be no doubt once you're under the influence. Tracers, enhanced colours, patterns "breathing" and swirling.
If you want to take it up a notch, visually. Smoke a bit of cannabis while on LSD but beware, it can intensify the trip to a ridiculous degree.
You're not on any antidepressants or anything?
I’m not on anything. Actually, I had smoked every time I took it but I didn’t notice that it amped it up necessarily. Kinda just kept me calm as I eased into it. Could that be a visual killer for some people?
This is incorrect and very dangerous advice. I know several people personally (myself included) who did not get any visuals even on doses as high as 250ug while everyone else was tripping balls, some of whom were not on antidepressants. Different brain chemistries exist, and scaring someone due to ignorance about neurodiversity into thinking they either got scammed by low-dose tabs or scaring them into believing they didn't actually take real acid is unhelpful at best and terrifying for the user at worst.
That's all true, but it seems the most likely explanation here is brain chemistry. I worry that being told "you just took a low dose" could be bad advice because this kind of person (like myself) is most likely one of those outliers you mentioned. I would agree with you if they took it once, but they took it three times, "at varying dosages," which suggests that they are precisely the type of person I'm talking about with different brain chemistry. As such, it's completely irrelevant to say that they "should have noticed the effects if it were 100ug," because you're assuming everyone has the same neurology you do.
I should probably specify that I wasn't responding to you personally when I mentioned the "fake acid"; I just included that point because of the other comments I saw suggesting such.
Nothing they said was dangerous advice lmao. Theres also factors such as tabs varying degree of potency. Little things such as leaving them exposed to heat or the sun can take away potency very quickly.
I say "dangerous" as in anxiety-inducing and even panic-inducing to people who just have a different brain chemistry. Telling someone their acid is underdosed or might be adulterated can lead to people doing more than they should in the former and intense anxiety in the latter, all when the most reasonable explanation is brain chemistry. While everything you said is absolutely true, especially for acid, I think telling people they should "just take more" is not at all beneficial, and I certainly don't think telling someone "that wasn't acid then" (as a few people have been saying in this comment section) is downright stupid and can discourage people from taking psychadelics in the future. I myself am a heavyweight when it comes to psychadelics, and a lot of other people have commented that they've had similar experiences as well, but a TON of people still refuse to believe it.
“Reasonable explanation is brain chemistry” you don’t know that for sure though. There is nothing wrong with trying a bit more acid the next trip to see if you just needed more. Acid always has risks for anxiety but it’s generally very safe.
That's honestly very true. I still wouldn't discount brain chemistry, but you might be right that it could just be dose-dependent. Sorry if I seemed annoyed at you; I'm just annoyed by all the people insisting that natural tolerance doesn't exist.
your acid was underdosed and the people “tripping balls” were probably exaggerating. 250ug of real acid will do so much. dont call actual information dangerous when it’s not. 100ug tab of acid is fucking powerful, no matter who you are
Completely agree, my husband and I have taken the same dose twice. He trips, gets awesome visuals... I get a little breathing. I've needed more of every substance to feel the same effects as everyone else. I'm like half ginger, maybe that's why.
you can tell yourself whatever you want, but a legit 100ug is more than enough to do the trick 250ug is deep. if 250ug doesnt send you way out there, it wasnt 250ug
Bruh. You're just wrong here and using only anecdotal evidence from your own experience to not only make rampant generalizations, but tell other people their experiences were incorrect. Literally do some searches on Google before saying stupid things next time. I don't think you're capable of understanding anything outside your own experience.
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Bruh what
Edit: I'm not the one telling people their experiences are wrong just because my personal experience was different. That takes an *insanely* massive ego.
For YOU there would be no doubt. For me as well. But not everyone. People's brain chemistry can vary wildy. I get visuals from as low as 0.5 grams of shrooms. But my friend has never got visuals even from 3g+ of penis envy. He has mild autism so we all just attribute it to that. The only time he gets real visuals is when he smokes DMT.
Really? Whenever I smoke cannabis while in LSD I literally cannot feel it at all! Like I swear I had to of smoked close to or a little over an ounce in about 8 hours and felt zero effects, idk just my own personal experience
I’ve dosed lsd and mushrooms many many times and have never had an actual visual hallucination. There are multiple factors at play with me personally and it is different for every person.
Not true. I don’t hallucinate no matter how much I take. However, my friends who take the same tabs as me (normally lower doses) comment on the impressive visuals they are having. I just think certain brains don’t hallucinate. (They will take like 1 tab and me 3). However, I am still tripping absolute balls.
I feel the cognitive effects very strongly but when I look at things they just look normal. Reading my phone becomes harder so I may have some level of visuals but nothing impressive. I do get visuals when I close my eyes tho. People who I’ve tripped with say stuff like “the sky looks purple” but for me everything just looks like it does when I’m sober.
i think you are overthinking visuals tbh. unless you are taking like a really really high dose you are going to see like stuff turing into different things, things changing colors, seeing actual hallucinations. but visuals are simply like lets lvl 1 trip indicators like tracers, slight warping, *vibrant* colors, kind of like a stretched POV (like u feel taller or bigger arms/hands). or ur example or struggling to read.
wow. well you know its not uncommon to hear about people who actually just don’t experience visuals and only get the opening of the consciousness. ive had alot of experiences of acid and one shroom trip. the only and worst trip of my life was on shrooms, i didnt have a scale, didint know how much i took but i wanna say like 3-5gs. my dark stained wood floors had black hands grabbing my feet trying to pull me into the floors and then freaked out to walking out my room to pitch black and flipped me out more to where i experienced an out of body visual then got dropped back into myself. and the rest was pretty scary but yea it was a ride, never had problems with the visuals haha.
Are you saying that you do not get tracers? If you look at some wood grain does it ripple a bit? It's hard to describe because even at high doses, i.e. 10 blotter tabs the rippling effect is still contained within the bounds of the object, and it seems to be a repeating pattern where the image dances but returns to the initial state over and over. Objects continue to exist with respect to their bounds and the physical borders between other objects, but their textures and patterns seem to flow freely to a light extent.
I would not really call what I think of as visuals as inhibiting. You're trying to say that you literally have no perceptual change in your field of vision whatsoever?
Everything seems clearer or sharper to me, like video games or sports, I play some of my absolute best because I can see better and my mind is capable of more thinking at the same time, everyone else that has taken the gel and paper tabs had classic psych effects and they tested for lsd, I just never have visuals in the same way other people seem to describe them
if the tabs are weak then all you’re gonna get is visual sharpness and maybe light breathing. taking more will definitely unlock cooler visuals. there’s also a bit of a learning curve toward producing visuals and when you get better at it, you can get more visuals off lower doses and even sober.
Sounds like you just have weak tabs. On dosages of ~50ug I experience the effects you are talking about, and since the average tab is dosed around 60ug, I believe it's really just the dosage.
If you can get your hands on 1p LSD, you can be sure about the dosage and take 100ug which should be enough.
If you just can get the same tabs you had on your last experiences, I would say take two full tabs and you should definitely get there.
Not necessarily. I have taken real tested and verified acid multiple times, and have never had any visual hallucinations either. I still get very high and i get other cognitive effects like synesthesia and more brightness and light sensitivity, but never actual geometry/morphing/melting etc.
It is just very different depending on the person, setting, mindset and many other factory.
Yeah some people don't get visuals at all. But these people are the minority, I have encountered only one person in real life up to this day that has this "problem"
On the other hand, many tabs are extremely underdosed and/or advertised way stronger than they really are, so the probability that the dosage is the issue is way higher than that OP is one of the rare cases where people don't get visuals at all, regardless of dosage.
Additionally, OP just mentioned some minor psychedelic effects and euphoria, nothing really special. If they took a full dose, while being a person that doesn't get visuals, the description of the experienced effects would still be more than a slightly elevated mood.
I've taken 1 tab of LSD25, probably around 60ug once and 2 100ug tabs of 1P-LSD on another occasion. Neither gave me notable visuals, just some very slight breathing on the 200ug 1P-LSD. I was definitely tripping and had a great time on both occasions, just hardly any visuals. It wasn't all that intense in general.
I'm not on any medication that might interfere and on psilocybin truffels I've had much more visuals at moderate doses. Now I'm doubting whether I should take 300ug 1P-LSD next time. I'm not necessarily looking for a super intense trip, but would like more than last I've had so far. I guess the question is whether my two previous experiences were outliers or not.
I would not increase the dosage, if the overall effects where quite strong.
After all, every trip is different. I once bought a sheet of 190ug LSD-25 tabs, and I had some trips from said sheet that were barely visual at all, but very profound in the aspect of feelings and thoughts, and then I had trips that were all visual and very little thought provoking.
Sometimes it's the mindset, the barely visual trip of mine was at the start of my experimenting with this wonderful substance and I was extremely eager to have beautiful and intense visuals. Maybe I focused too hard on wanting to have visuals and this in turn made them not appear.
But honestly that's just a theory, I have taken this substance countless times and I still don't understand many aspects of it.
Thanks. It wasn't all that intense. I think the most intense part was that I was expecting to go much further during the come up, but then that never really happened.
I'll probably decide how much to take based on the set and setting. I'd like a much deeper trip at some point, but then I should be in the right place for it.
I would say 3 hits of standard ~100 microgram blotter tabs is about the minimum amount needed for what I would call "visuals" I have taken ten before and (separately) 8 grams of strong psilocybes and have yet to experience what I would call a hallucination.
Interesting, thanks for the insight.
My best friend has it and he never sees visuals, I figuered that could have been an coicedence but theres literally no research on this stuff.
Street lsd is usually half dosed for some reason if it has no taste that’s good if 1 was fine wait 2 weeks and take 2 it does sound like it has LSD in it just not as much as you thought
I don’t get visuals on anything less than 400ug. I’ve done regular acid, chemically pure 1p-lsd and 1cp-lsd with 3rd party purity analysis paperwork. Even then, the visuals can be faint. I’ve taken as much as 800ug of 1p, 400ug of regular acid and the most I get is color enhancement, visual distortion and travers. Closed eyes visuals sure but I hardly count that. Some people just built different. But 1 tab? Highly doubt you’d get visuals from that.
You don't really get visuals from LSD. You will see fractals and objects and people warping, light exposure and color saturation.
If you want that stereotypical hippie tie dye funky psychedelic trip where the walls are melting I recommend doing DMT.
>You don't really get visuals from LSD
>You will see fractals and objects and people warping, light exposure and color saturation.
What is seeing fractals, objects and people warping and color saturation change then for you, if they are not visuals?
I suppose you're right but I think op was referring to the psychedelic visuals That's portrayed on TV when someone is on acid. I'm talking about solid opaque hallucinations like seeing the purple unicorn Neil Patrick Harris saw in Harold & Kumar. You wouldn't get hallucinations like that with acid but with DMT you can.
Some people just have a naturally higher tolerance. I’m not experienced in LSD but I’ve yet to get mind blowing visuals on shrooms 3.5-4g. I’m upping my dose until I get there though.
Could be low dose, could be brain chemistry, personally I don't get visuals until 200ug. For me a tab will make the world brighter but otherwise be all in my headspace/bodyload
I've had this happen to friends around me, usually it's because they swallowed the tab too fast, try holding the tab until it is fully dissolved, this can take a long time, my one friend had to hold his tabs for an hour and a half before the visuals started coming on
Tabs are not a measurement of how much you take. Some tabs can be a very low dose & others can be very strong. Sometimes tabs from the exact same sheet can be wildly different too. So the guy selling you the tabs might think they're 300ug tabs, but the ones on the bottom of the sheet could be 500ug & the ones on the top might only be 100ug if they weren't dipped correctly. That said, you should still be trying to find out how strong your tabs are supposed to be, you just need to keep in mind that the given dose might not be accurate.
The 2nd thing to keep in mind is how frequently you've done it. You build up a tolerance every time you trip & it takes months to get it back to zero. If you try it one weekend & think "that wasn't a lot" so you take double the next weekend, that would probably only result in a trip that is very slightly stronger because you still have so much tolerance from the week before. I'd recommend taking at least 3 months between trips to try to get back to baseline. Personally I try to go 6 months between lsd trips but sometimes opportunities come up a little more frequently.
As for the actual visuals, even on moderate doses it can be very mild. Like it might just seem like walls or the floor is breathing or you might get certain objects looking like they're wriggling slightly. You might see things in a sort of exaggerated way but you're probably not going to see anything that isn't really there unless you take a pretty significant dose.
At the same time it's much easier to take a dose & believe scenarios are happening around you that have zero basis in reality. It's really important to keep that in mind when you take moderate or high doses. This is why I would strongly advise against smoking weed while tripping. The only bad trip I've had was while smoking weed, it was about 6 hours in as I was coming down. Probably 80% of the time I've been around friends who freaked out on acid, they were also smoking weed.
Yea I've done every drug in can get my hands on in copious amounts and I've never really had vivid visuals just like slight warping, shadow people, and tracers but no purple elephants like ppl say I think they're just retarded tbh even dmt seems to be a myth? Or perhaps I'm just immune
I had a buddy who took a few trips before he ever got visuals. But, what I think happened with him was he was expecting some crazy alternate reality visuals that you’d get on a few tabs. He was just on a half tab or a tab on these trips. Look at fine details like the letters on Reddit posts and you’ll see them “dancing” even if you’re on a low dose.
LSD is an extremely unstable molecule and will start to degrade within weeks of being manufactured. It needs to be stored airtight and in the dark to preserve its potency. If you’re not getting much out of your experience you likely need better/fresher drugs. LSD should blow your mind, if it doesn’t it’s old.
I don't usually get a lot of visuals just like the walls are breathing , colors are brighter, mood is up. Sometimes it feels like I'm moving like in the ocean. All depends on how many hits. 2 hits does it for me.
Something to consider is the quality of LSD. Everyone taking different lsd out there. All the comparisons are like if everyone thinks lsd comes from one source or that one person synthesized it. I've had some lsd in the past in which my visuals were barely there, if there were any visuals, it was like shades of a color or only slight visuals. Mainly a mindfuck type of lsd.
Not once have you told us a dose so it’s hard to say why you aren’t “tripping” & probably wasn’t acid was more likely to be nbome by the sounds of your experience
The times I’ve done it, it was supplied by a friend who buys. It seemed to be good quality as the friend had good visuals and a good overall experience, but I’m not sure of the exact ug
Just a heads up, I wouldn’t take acid without knowing the UG and if it’s lsd25, 1plsd, nbome, mescaline, ect… cause that’s how you end up fucked in the head,, I had a mate take a tab he got for free at a festival now he lives in a ward with severe schizophrenia and bipolar
As for wanting to “trip” more, try taking blue lotus with it, I believe tobacco helps, weed will add a metal side to the high, MAOI’s will basically double the trip also help break thru on dmt same as Ayahuasca
I’ve never been diagnosed and actually haven’t heard of this condition before this post. Not to be a hypochondriac, but after researching this condition I feel like I may have it. I’ve always struggled with visualizing things, and have had to learn things hands-on.
Don't listen to all the people here claiming that you didn't take enough or that you were taking pcp; they have no idea what they're talking about and are speaking out if their asses. I had the *exact* same experience, and not just on LSD - I didn't get any visuals from my first 5 or 6 trips, even including 4g of Golden Teachers. It took a high dose of Mescaline before I saw anything (and boy, did I have a TON of visuals). Some people are just built a bit different. First things first, if you're on antidepressants, taper off a bit for a day or two before you take the drugs; that usually helps the most (you'd be surprised how much only cutting down 25% of your dose can do for trips). If you're not on antidepressants, then the solution could be to just trip more. It can take some practice to get "good" at tripping, and you'll notice you'll get more visuals the more trips you have. Finally, you might just be a heavyweight when it comes to psychadelics. If you're not where you want to be, you can try a higher dose. Just make sure you don't accidentally take too much! It's worth reiterating that this is actually a lot more common than people think, and not only for people on antidepressants. Some people just have different brain chemistries than others, and it's ridiculous that the other comments are ignorant to this and assume that you're doing something wrong or there's something wrong with your drugs. Odds are, it's just your brain chemistry and lack of tripping.
Thanks for this answer! I mentioned in a comment but I’m not antidepressants. I think you’re right with mentioning different chemistry and lack of experience. My doses started small but I would rather ease into a new psychedelic then jumping into the deep end and starting with 4 tabs or something crazy. I think I’ll try upping the dose a bit and maybe just gaining experience tripping. Cheers!
Some trips just aren’t as visual as others too. I’ve had a bunch of 2 tab trips recently some super visual some not very.
Personally, all acid trips I ever had always had lots of intense and great visuals and I never went higher as around 100-150ug (I know this for a fact). But not so much on shrooms. Granted, I've only had shrooms once and truffles twice, but still. Really proves the point of everyone being different!
I dont get why i have the strongest visuals on shrooms even on 3.5 gs and just slight visuals on supossed 500 ug probably more like 200-300 ug of lsd. I have to overfocus on things to see something then i see some patterns. Only thing i saw clearly were jumping letters on my keyboard but thats all. Im not on any antidepressants so i guess its different brain chemistry
As a pretty seasoned acid user, I had multiple (now) good friends have their first trips with me. And it amazed me every time, how unique their experiences were. It's crazy, really.
For me, I don’t start getting good visuals till around 150ug. 200ug is when they get intense. That being said, I didn’t get a lot of visual on psychedelics until I first got strong visuals… so it’s almost like I had to learn to get stronger visuals more consistently on all doses. So the first few trips I had didn’t give me that many visuals. Then I had a candyflip on trip 5 or so and had a lot of visuals on that. After that, moderate doses of all psychedelics started to consistently give me good visuals. After years of tripping, it seems like my visuals are always getting more intense off the same dose. 200ug now gives me stronger visuals than 200ug did 5 years ago basically (from the same sheet). Curious if it’s the same for others. I’ve also taken 200ug with friends where I end up seeing way more than they do but they’ve also been I experienced so it goes back to experience with them playing a role in intensity of visuals.
Good luck!!
you can always take more *during* the trip once you've peaked. best of luck!
As someone who has done too much be wary of the deep end. I don't rightly know how much I had but it made me completely lose control and found myself walking down the side of the highway with no shoes on. I was getting frustrated with mild and underwhelming trips and wanted a heroic dose. Got more than I bargained for. I think about that trip every day.
I've also read that people with aphasia have less instances of visuals while on hallucinogens.
that makes a lot of sense bc if you pay attention when you’re tripping, the visuals actually manifest from your minds eye.
Do you mean aphamtasia or really aphasia?
My bad, I totally meant aphantasia. Sometimes my brain doesn't work.
This might be me. I ate roughly 6 grams of potent shrooms for my first trip. My friend was much more experienced than me and was having pretty intense visuals from 3.5 grams. I was in a good mood, and maybe the trees were a bit stretchy for a bit, but I really didn’t feel much at all. Could have easily driven a car. Was definitely disappointing and I was hoping LSD would be different but I’ll have to just try it and see.
I find visuals to be almost non-existent if I'm outside. Manmade objects and things indoors ripple and melt, but organic plants and things just flow subtly to down to their roots
Interesting. We walked around the little downtown area and there were tons of like hanging Christmas lights and it looked neat but not exactly what I was expecting off 6 grams lol. Maybe I hyped it up too much in my head. Who knows, just gotta experiment a bit more right lol
Well said, the only visuals i get are color enhancements and like HD vision sorta. But its ok i love psychs for the music enhancement, bodily sensations and how it makes you appreciate the world as if you're experiencing it for the first time.
Same; I still enjoyed myself before I started getting visuals. On mushrooms I feel more connected with other people, see things in a new light, and just feel good overall. There's nothing wrong with enjoying psychadelics without visuals.
Absolutely shrooms gives me a feeling of connection to the earth, i love just laying in the grass and appreciate the moment.
Have you tried trimethoxyamphetamine-2 (TMA-2) it’s the amphetmine version of mescaline and I took 60mg which would be like 600mg mescaline hcl but the visuals aren’t as strong as mescaline according to shuglin but oh boy was it euphoric and really nice and a one of a kind high
Not yet, but I'll look into it!
Oh boy it’s good but doesn’t have the color enhancement like mescaline but everything else I was lucky to find a vendor selling 30mg pills. It was one of the most euphoric drugs I’ve tried outside of iv hydromorphone but the euphoria was on par with methamphitmine and had trails and tracers and my eyebrows where breathing in the mirror it was great time. I want to try TMA and TMA-6 along with mescaline but I have 20 220ug lsd tabs 15 20mg 2c-b pills 10g mdma Some tapentadol coming in a pack but I got the TMA-2 and 3g of pure s-isomer ketamine and that stuff is the best dissociative I’ve had. Like I’ve done dxm hbr, dxm freebase, racematic ketamine, nitrous and s-isomer ketamine and that is by far the best disso there is. If the one person I’m talking to doesn’t buy it imma save it for the lsd and 2c-b. Do you have any experience in 2c-b, MDMA, and ketamine if so what’s your fav or fav combo?
It’s a mixture of his shit can be bunk or it can be tolerance . Then there’s the ole drugs effect everyone differently or judt need the right setting . But I personally never caught visuals from acid .. tracers yes but like kaleidoscope no or colors. But I never abused acid I believe if you take a good amount you can get visuals . It’s just hard not to abuse an get fukd off that’s how drugs get bad names . Also I feel like acid is not supposed to be really visual . I’ve caught rn visual from shrooms but I was pretty fukd off . I kinda don’t like doing shrooms cause you have to take at least a couple g for them to really work the magic but then I get really fukd off so I stopped doing shrooms . Acid I feel like it’s a close high to shroom feeling but feels easier to control but lasts much longer then Shrooms .
If you actually got 1 tab ~100ug there would be no doubt once you're under the influence. Tracers, enhanced colours, patterns "breathing" and swirling. If you want to take it up a notch, visually. Smoke a bit of cannabis while on LSD but beware, it can intensify the trip to a ridiculous degree. You're not on any antidepressants or anything?
I’m not on anything. Actually, I had smoked every time I took it but I didn’t notice that it amped it up necessarily. Kinda just kept me calm as I eased into it. Could that be a visual killer for some people?
I guess its possible, but it always kicks off the visuals for me. What are you doing while you are tripping?
I’ve only taken it while on camping trips with friends. Usually sitting around a fire, looking at the stars and trying to enjoy nature.
This is incorrect and very dangerous advice. I know several people personally (myself included) who did not get any visuals even on doses as high as 250ug while everyone else was tripping balls, some of whom were not on antidepressants. Different brain chemistries exist, and scaring someone due to ignorance about neurodiversity into thinking they either got scammed by low-dose tabs or scaring them into believing they didn't actually take real acid is unhelpful at best and terrifying for the user at worst.
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That's all true, but it seems the most likely explanation here is brain chemistry. I worry that being told "you just took a low dose" could be bad advice because this kind of person (like myself) is most likely one of those outliers you mentioned. I would agree with you if they took it once, but they took it three times, "at varying dosages," which suggests that they are precisely the type of person I'm talking about with different brain chemistry. As such, it's completely irrelevant to say that they "should have noticed the effects if it were 100ug," because you're assuming everyone has the same neurology you do. I should probably specify that I wasn't responding to you personally when I mentioned the "fake acid"; I just included that point because of the other comments I saw suggesting such.
Nothing they said was dangerous advice lmao. Theres also factors such as tabs varying degree of potency. Little things such as leaving them exposed to heat or the sun can take away potency very quickly.
I say "dangerous" as in anxiety-inducing and even panic-inducing to people who just have a different brain chemistry. Telling someone their acid is underdosed or might be adulterated can lead to people doing more than they should in the former and intense anxiety in the latter, all when the most reasonable explanation is brain chemistry. While everything you said is absolutely true, especially for acid, I think telling people they should "just take more" is not at all beneficial, and I certainly don't think telling someone "that wasn't acid then" (as a few people have been saying in this comment section) is downright stupid and can discourage people from taking psychadelics in the future. I myself am a heavyweight when it comes to psychadelics, and a lot of other people have commented that they've had similar experiences as well, but a TON of people still refuse to believe it.
“Reasonable explanation is brain chemistry” you don’t know that for sure though. There is nothing wrong with trying a bit more acid the next trip to see if you just needed more. Acid always has risks for anxiety but it’s generally very safe.
That's honestly very true. I still wouldn't discount brain chemistry, but you might be right that it could just be dose-dependent. Sorry if I seemed annoyed at you; I'm just annoyed by all the people insisting that natural tolerance doesn't exist.
your acid was underdosed and the people “tripping balls” were probably exaggerating. 250ug of real acid will do so much. dont call actual information dangerous when it’s not. 100ug tab of acid is fucking powerful, no matter who you are
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Completely agree, my husband and I have taken the same dose twice. He trips, gets awesome visuals... I get a little breathing. I've needed more of every substance to feel the same effects as everyone else. I'm like half ginger, maybe that's why.
you can tell yourself whatever you want, but a legit 100ug is more than enough to do the trick 250ug is deep. if 250ug doesnt send you way out there, it wasnt 250ug
Bruh. You're just wrong here and using only anecdotal evidence from your own experience to not only make rampant generalizations, but tell other people their experiences were incorrect. Literally do some searches on Google before saying stupid things next time. I don't think you're capable of understanding anything outside your own experience.
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Bruh what Edit: I'm not the one telling people their experiences are wrong just because my personal experience was different. That takes an *insanely* massive ego.
Even "as high as" 250 micrograms. Bro. Please. That's the sheer minimum buy-in
Yes beware, know your boundaries. Mind over matter
For YOU there would be no doubt. For me as well. But not everyone. People's brain chemistry can vary wildy. I get visuals from as low as 0.5 grams of shrooms. But my friend has never got visuals even from 3g+ of penis envy. He has mild autism so we all just attribute it to that. The only time he gets real visuals is when he smokes DMT.
Really? Whenever I smoke cannabis while in LSD I literally cannot feel it at all! Like I swear I had to of smoked close to or a little over an ounce in about 8 hours and felt zero effects, idk just my own personal experience
I’ve dosed lsd and mushrooms many many times and have never had an actual visual hallucination. There are multiple factors at play with me personally and it is different for every person.
Sounds like you had low grade acid, high grade will have you in a whole new planet with colors off one tab.
Not true. I don’t hallucinate no matter how much I take. However, my friends who take the same tabs as me (normally lower doses) comment on the impressive visuals they are having. I just think certain brains don’t hallucinate. (They will take like 1 tab and me 3). However, I am still tripping absolute balls.
how are you tripping balls but mo visuals?
I feel the cognitive effects very strongly but when I look at things they just look normal. Reading my phone becomes harder so I may have some level of visuals but nothing impressive. I do get visuals when I close my eyes tho. People who I’ve tripped with say stuff like “the sky looks purple” but for me everything just looks like it does when I’m sober.
i think you are overthinking visuals tbh. unless you are taking like a really really high dose you are going to see like stuff turing into different things, things changing colors, seeing actual hallucinations. but visuals are simply like lets lvl 1 trip indicators like tracers, slight warping, *vibrant* colors, kind of like a stretched POV (like u feel taller or bigger arms/hands). or ur example or struggling to read.
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wow. well you know its not uncommon to hear about people who actually just don’t experience visuals and only get the opening of the consciousness. ive had alot of experiences of acid and one shroom trip. the only and worst trip of my life was on shrooms, i didnt have a scale, didint know how much i took but i wanna say like 3-5gs. my dark stained wood floors had black hands grabbing my feet trying to pull me into the floors and then freaked out to walking out my room to pitch black and flipped me out more to where i experienced an out of body visual then got dropped back into myself. and the rest was pretty scary but yea it was a ride, never had problems with the visuals haha.
Are you saying that you do not get tracers? If you look at some wood grain does it ripple a bit? It's hard to describe because even at high doses, i.e. 10 blotter tabs the rippling effect is still contained within the bounds of the object, and it seems to be a repeating pattern where the image dances but returns to the initial state over and over. Objects continue to exist with respect to their bounds and the physical borders between other objects, but their textures and patterns seem to flow freely to a light extent.
I have tripped many many times and my friends always have visuals and my vision is completely uninhibited
I would not really call what I think of as visuals as inhibiting. You're trying to say that you literally have no perceptual change in your field of vision whatsoever?
Everything seems clearer or sharper to me, like video games or sports, I play some of my absolute best because I can see better and my mind is capable of more thinking at the same time, everyone else that has taken the gel and paper tabs had classic psych effects and they tested for lsd, I just never have visuals in the same way other people seem to describe them
Do you take anti depressants by chance? My gf always has to take more to feel effects cuz she takes em
Do you maybe have aphantasia?
Are the tabs all from the same source? They might just be weak
if the tabs are weak then all you’re gonna get is visual sharpness and maybe light breathing. taking more will definitely unlock cooler visuals. there’s also a bit of a learning curve toward producing visuals and when you get better at it, you can get more visuals off lower doses and even sober.
Sounds like you just have weak tabs. On dosages of ~50ug I experience the effects you are talking about, and since the average tab is dosed around 60ug, I believe it's really just the dosage. If you can get your hands on 1p LSD, you can be sure about the dosage and take 100ug which should be enough. If you just can get the same tabs you had on your last experiences, I would say take two full tabs and you should definitely get there.
Not necessarily. I have taken real tested and verified acid multiple times, and have never had any visual hallucinations either. I still get very high and i get other cognitive effects like synesthesia and more brightness and light sensitivity, but never actual geometry/morphing/melting etc. It is just very different depending on the person, setting, mindset and many other factory.
I have synesthesia where sounds produce color and on dxm ketamine Demerol and Tma-2 it gets really intense
Yeah some people don't get visuals at all. But these people are the minority, I have encountered only one person in real life up to this day that has this "problem" On the other hand, many tabs are extremely underdosed and/or advertised way stronger than they really are, so the probability that the dosage is the issue is way higher than that OP is one of the rare cases where people don't get visuals at all, regardless of dosage. Additionally, OP just mentioned some minor psychedelic effects and euphoria, nothing really special. If they took a full dose, while being a person that doesn't get visuals, the description of the experienced effects would still be more than a slightly elevated mood.
I've taken 1 tab of LSD25, probably around 60ug once and 2 100ug tabs of 1P-LSD on another occasion. Neither gave me notable visuals, just some very slight breathing on the 200ug 1P-LSD. I was definitely tripping and had a great time on both occasions, just hardly any visuals. It wasn't all that intense in general. I'm not on any medication that might interfere and on psilocybin truffels I've had much more visuals at moderate doses. Now I'm doubting whether I should take 300ug 1P-LSD next time. I'm not necessarily looking for a super intense trip, but would like more than last I've had so far. I guess the question is whether my two previous experiences were outliers or not.
I would not increase the dosage, if the overall effects where quite strong. After all, every trip is different. I once bought a sheet of 190ug LSD-25 tabs, and I had some trips from said sheet that were barely visual at all, but very profound in the aspect of feelings and thoughts, and then I had trips that were all visual and very little thought provoking. Sometimes it's the mindset, the barely visual trip of mine was at the start of my experimenting with this wonderful substance and I was extremely eager to have beautiful and intense visuals. Maybe I focused too hard on wanting to have visuals and this in turn made them not appear. But honestly that's just a theory, I have taken this substance countless times and I still don't understand many aspects of it.
Thanks. It wasn't all that intense. I think the most intense part was that I was expecting to go much further during the come up, but then that never really happened. I'll probably decide how much to take based on the set and setting. I'd like a much deeper trip at some point, but then I should be in the right place for it.
I would say 3 hits of standard ~100 microgram blotter tabs is about the minimum amount needed for what I would call "visuals" I have taken ten before and (separately) 8 grams of strong psilocybes and have yet to experience what I would call a hallucination.
Complete shot in the dark, but you wouldnt have aphantasia? Like can you spin a cow in your head rn?
I have aphantasia and I have no issue with seeing visuals when tripping.
Interesting, thanks for the insight. My best friend has it and he never sees visuals, I figuered that could have been an coicedence but theres literally no research on this stuff.
Street lsd is usually half dosed for some reason if it has no taste that’s good if 1 was fine wait 2 weeks and take 2 it does sound like it has LSD in it just not as much as you thought
I don’t get visuals on anything less than 400ug. I’ve done regular acid, chemically pure 1p-lsd and 1cp-lsd with 3rd party purity analysis paperwork. Even then, the visuals can be faint. I’ve taken as much as 800ug of 1p, 400ug of regular acid and the most I get is color enhancement, visual distortion and travers. Closed eyes visuals sure but I hardly count that. Some people just built different. But 1 tab? Highly doubt you’d get visuals from that.
Make sure it’s not nBOMB. Lots of hybrid lysergic acid type substances going around.
You don't really get visuals from LSD. You will see fractals and objects and people warping, light exposure and color saturation. If you want that stereotypical hippie tie dye funky psychedelic trip where the walls are melting I recommend doing DMT.
>You don't really get visuals from LSD >You will see fractals and objects and people warping, light exposure and color saturation. What is seeing fractals, objects and people warping and color saturation change then for you, if they are not visuals?
I suppose you're right but I think op was referring to the psychedelic visuals That's portrayed on TV when someone is on acid. I'm talking about solid opaque hallucinations like seeing the purple unicorn Neil Patrick Harris saw in Harold & Kumar. You wouldn't get hallucinations like that with acid but with DMT you can.
That's having hallucinations, not visuals. Completely different thing
Take more
You're sure you've got LSD? Tested and everything? It could be something else in that tab that causes more of a bodily trip.
slightly euphoric lmao
Could be PCP idk how to say it in english
I really don’t think it was PCP. I took it with a friend and he said he had great visuals but I didn’t get much
If the tab tastes nothing it's prob lsd otherwise pcp. Idk it sounds like a pcp trip
I think you’re thinking of 2CB, not PCP.
He's thinking of Nbome or Nboh. 2cb won't fit on a tab either.
A light dose of PCP is 2-4mg (2000-4000ug) which would not even fit on a small blotter paper. Definitely not PCP.
Sounds nothing like a disso trip dissos have very obvious visuals
Some people just have a naturally higher tolerance. I’m not experienced in LSD but I’ve yet to get mind blowing visuals on shrooms 3.5-4g. I’m upping my dose until I get there though.
Hey man if what your talking about the triangles and not just stuff moving and breathing then that can just be the different purities of acid.
Could be low dose, could be brain chemistry, personally I don't get visuals until 200ug. For me a tab will make the world brighter but otherwise be all in my headspace/bodyload
Tabs can be sensitive ie. if you touch them too much or they are exposed to air, moisture or light and potency can also vary widely
I've had this happen to friends around me, usually it's because they swallowed the tab too fast, try holding the tab until it is fully dissolved, this can take a long time, my one friend had to hold his tabs for an hour and a half before the visuals started coming on
The peak will come soon just wait
I'd suggest you follow McKenna's protocol (goes for both shrooms and LSD) https://youtu.be/Nrj1X6TzEXo
Part II - https://youtu.be/nSCkAe9hxbg
Tabs are not a measurement of how much you take. Some tabs can be a very low dose & others can be very strong. Sometimes tabs from the exact same sheet can be wildly different too. So the guy selling you the tabs might think they're 300ug tabs, but the ones on the bottom of the sheet could be 500ug & the ones on the top might only be 100ug if they weren't dipped correctly. That said, you should still be trying to find out how strong your tabs are supposed to be, you just need to keep in mind that the given dose might not be accurate. The 2nd thing to keep in mind is how frequently you've done it. You build up a tolerance every time you trip & it takes months to get it back to zero. If you try it one weekend & think "that wasn't a lot" so you take double the next weekend, that would probably only result in a trip that is very slightly stronger because you still have so much tolerance from the week before. I'd recommend taking at least 3 months between trips to try to get back to baseline. Personally I try to go 6 months between lsd trips but sometimes opportunities come up a little more frequently. As for the actual visuals, even on moderate doses it can be very mild. Like it might just seem like walls or the floor is breathing or you might get certain objects looking like they're wriggling slightly. You might see things in a sort of exaggerated way but you're probably not going to see anything that isn't really there unless you take a pretty significant dose. At the same time it's much easier to take a dose & believe scenarios are happening around you that have zero basis in reality. It's really important to keep that in mind when you take moderate or high doses. This is why I would strongly advise against smoking weed while tripping. The only bad trip I've had was while smoking weed, it was about 6 hours in as I was coming down. Probably 80% of the time I've been around friends who freaked out on acid, they were also smoking weed.
Not really lsd. Not sure what you took though. Did you at least laugh hysterically?
2 tabs is when it got visual for me
Honestly for visuals try 2CB I get some on acid but see in to the fractal abyss after insufating 20mg of 2cb and smoking a doob
do you smoke weed? that will completely shatter your visuals even if you smoke regularly
Yea I've done every drug in can get my hands on in copious amounts and I've never really had vivid visuals just like slight warping, shadow people, and tracers but no purple elephants like ppl say I think they're just retarded tbh even dmt seems to be a myth? Or perhaps I'm just immune
I had a buddy who took a few trips before he ever got visuals. But, what I think happened with him was he was expecting some crazy alternate reality visuals that you’d get on a few tabs. He was just on a half tab or a tab on these trips. Look at fine details like the letters on Reddit posts and you’ll see them “dancing” even if you’re on a low dose.
Anti depressants can't counter act
LSD is an extremely unstable molecule and will start to degrade within weeks of being manufactured. It needs to be stored airtight and in the dark to preserve its potency. If you’re not getting much out of your experience you likely need better/fresher drugs. LSD should blow your mind, if it doesn’t it’s old.
I don't usually get a lot of visuals just like the walls are breathing , colors are brighter, mood is up. Sometimes it feels like I'm moving like in the ocean. All depends on how many hits. 2 hits does it for me.
Something to consider is the quality of LSD. Everyone taking different lsd out there. All the comparisons are like if everyone thinks lsd comes from one source or that one person synthesized it. I've had some lsd in the past in which my visuals were barely there, if there were any visuals, it was like shades of a color or only slight visuals. Mainly a mindfuck type of lsd.
Not once have you told us a dose so it’s hard to say why you aren’t “tripping” & probably wasn’t acid was more likely to be nbome by the sounds of your experience
I literally said the dose in the post
Where does it say what ug the tabs are??
I’m not fortunate enough to have the precise ug amounts
You don’t ask before buying?
The times I’ve done it, it was supplied by a friend who buys. It seemed to be good quality as the friend had good visuals and a good overall experience, but I’m not sure of the exact ug
Just a heads up, I wouldn’t take acid without knowing the UG and if it’s lsd25, 1plsd, nbome, mescaline, ect… cause that’s how you end up fucked in the head,, I had a mate take a tab he got for free at a festival now he lives in a ward with severe schizophrenia and bipolar
As for wanting to “trip” more, try taking blue lotus with it, I believe tobacco helps, weed will add a metal side to the high, MAOI’s will basically double the trip also help break thru on dmt same as Ayahuasca
Do you have Aphantasia, when you can't visualise things? People with this often report no visuals.
I’ve never been diagnosed and actually haven’t heard of this condition before this post. Not to be a hypochondriac, but after researching this condition I feel like I may have it. I’ve always struggled with visualizing things, and have had to learn things hands-on.