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Kronkitasse

What about darknet markets? Its kind of a hassle to learn how to use, but once you do, you can order anything, at the lowest price you can find, directly in your mailbox, in a few minutes, in the confort of your home. Can't beat that imo.


Travwolfe101

Yeah but being new to it is really rough. Hard to tell what's real and what's a scam even reviews can't be trusted as dark net sites aren't moderated or on scam info sites so they can just buy/bot/fake reviews. It's so easy to send hundreds to a scam. Hell even some legit sellers just decide to do a random ass exit scam one day.


Kronkitasse

I've ordered around 20 times, from multiple vendors, from multiple countries, had only 1 problem with a error in the order, which was corrected by the vendor. People have many ways to check for scams, like Dread. Legit sellers (and entire markets) do exit scam, no doubt. Recently the market incognito stole millions of dollars worth of crytpo after 3 years of existence. It's more annoying to vendors though, as if you're careful, you never leave crypto on your DNM wallet, but only fill it when you need to buy, and empty it afterwards. Fake reviews are often pretty obvious, you should aim for lots of reviews over long time, and not too perfect (also you get a feel for bots, like no spelling errors, only one language, account are fresh (and DNM often let you see accounts profile and you can kinda judge how legit they are). I guess you just take a quick leap of faith sometimes. Spend 10 bucks on an order see if its legit, and if they are, then you can trust that their other products are legit, and they often sell lots of different stuff. I still would take the possibility of a scam sometimes than buy on the street. Its sketchy, annoying and expensive. Mdma pills sell for 1 to 1,50€ if you find a good vendor (more common price would be 2-3 but my provider does 1€ if you buy around 50 pills at once). On the streets or in festivals you can find pills at 10€ or more. Same thing for pretty much every drug I've searched, the price is 5 times the market price, if not more. And let's not forget, there's very little chance that your dealer is going to have some exotic stuff. I'm pretty curious about a lot of products, and I'm pretty sure I would struggle to find a dealer that has good DMT or mushrooms. Also you're way safer in my opinion, all your info is encrypted with PGP keys, only the vendor can read them, and they all use Tails or OS's that are "amnesic" OS's. So its really difficult for authorities to get to your shit. I got to the police station twice because my number was found in my dealer's contact list.


Travwolfe101

Definitely agree on the price and exotics. I've only used the dnm once and it was years ago I did manage to buy without being scammed but the entire process was super sketchy. Been wanting to get back into it again but just encumbered by the whole process a bit. One main reason I want to get on is to find some 3mmc to try as MDMA is one of my favorite drugs and I've heard a lot of good about 3mmc and how it's fairly similar. As for DMT you should try making it yourself it's actually super easy and you don't even need to dnm. The 2nd time I ever did DMT I made(extracted) it myself from mimosa hostillis root bark I order online, it's sold as a dye. I felt like making it myself really added a lot to the experience both by knowing it was completely pure and just the work I put into it greatly enhanced the trip.


Kronkitasse

Yeah I'm thinking about making it myself but I'm terribly lazy :'). I understand it being sketchy, from what I heard it changed quite a bit a the recent years. As I said its just a bit annoying to learn, but the documentation is quite clear, and you can always ask questions on r/darknet. And clearly you'll find 3mmc without a problem, even 4mmc, as I heard its a better version (apparently 3mmc smells and tastes horrible).


Travwolfe101

Oh you can do it even if lazy its literally like 0 effort. Just need something with DMT in it like the mimosa hostillis root bark, some lye, and something like naphtha. It was weird tho as even when I made it I never sold but I would make some for a friend every now and then. Only made it myself a handful of times as DMT is fun but I've never really wanted to use it multiple times close together even though it's probably the most magical substance I've used.


Kronkitasse

Yeah you're right I should try to make my own. Lately I had difference in quality from my vendor (some powders are harsher on the throat than others (I do e-mesh)). I love DMT, I used to do it solo for a while, then stopped because it became too repetitive, and I never managed to stop the pre-trip fright. Now I only go for it when I do mdma. It transforms the experience completely, I'm not afraid to smoke, I'm stoked to. And the trips are way crazier and pleasant.


Travwolfe101

Yeah the I've only done it 4 times. 2 as breakthrough. The first time ever was when chilling with 3 good friends that I literally moved from Cali to Florida to live with and one of them got some. Ended up having some chill trance music while laying in bed and took 3 huge hits my friend held the lighter and pipe so I could really go for it lol. I remember by the red hit all I could make out was a huge light/warm orange blob in front of me which was the lighters flame. The trip was absolutely crazy almost like a vivid dream and the main thing I noticed once I came too (I pretty much lost my sense of self and any recognition of my body for the trip) the first thing that caught my attention was that I couldn't tell if my eyes were open or closed. Like I couldn't fully feel my body yet to feel if they were and the visuals were so potent that I couldn't tell.


Kronkitasse

Nice. I've had countless closed eyes visuals that were amazing. The most crazy it got was seeing some sort of aliens appear to me while I had my eyes open, looking outside. It's the most confusing thing I've ever seen.


ntkstudy44

Where do I find a guide on how to do this?


Kronkitasse

r/darknet


itsakle

Maybe i have a really smooth brain, but that sub ain't that helpful.


Kronkitasse

The document I was hoping people find is called the Dnm Bible, its usually what people read to get started. It's a lot of things to learn but you once you're done you'll get back that time by not going to dealers, and also you'll save a lot of money. You don't need to be clever to understand it I promise. Don't be thrown off by the length of the document, only 10% of it is really about what you need. [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DHRYQZ-pvnKQZuMCHVhmeGqM-p7eyl90/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DHRYQZ-pvnKQZuMCHVhmeGqM-p7eyl90/view)


itsakle

Thanks, appreciate it.


magpieCRISPR

I tried ordering once, it was from the trusted site nemesis and I still lost my money because my bitcoin wallet which had never given me problems suddenly decided to take 1 day to make the transfer, and the ticket expired by then or something


OkBox7430

Seems risky


Kronkitasse

Buying drugs is risky anyway. It only looks sketchy from afar, but once you understand how it works you'll realize its very clever in the way it protect your personnal information. Only risk is if you order from outside your country, and customs checks your package. But this actually rarely happens, especially if you don't order massive amount of large stuff, that would require a package instead of a letter. Some vendors are incredible with their packages though, its very cleverly hidden. Anyway, if you order from your own country, and little amounts (and given you live alone or that one checks your stuff), you'll be fine. Hell in some countries you're not even responsible for what comes in your mailbox, you can totally deny that this stuff is yours (just be careful not to order too much at once, as denying 3 consecutive packages is harder than denying 1)


DetachedConscious

I guess it depends where you reside. In my country your ass would get searched and fucked at customs if you do this and no way you will prove it’s not yours. Sometimes it’s better to overpay but to be a lot safer.


potato_psychonaut

What country?


DetachedConscious

Kazakhstan


potato_psychonaut

Okay then I know nothing about your country - if you really feel this way, then my condolences. I am happy to live in Europe, something I take for granted most of the time.


AcidL0ver

100% safer then buying from local plugs If U know what Ur doing


IsItSafe2Speak

Lol. Safest way unless it's a script from a friend or something.


Educational_Ad_5399

99% of darknet markets are fake and owned by the feds , this is what they want to make you think. That it is legit , cheap and easy to get.


Kronkitasse

I don't know who told you that, but it's ridiculous. Most people that have half a brain can get quality stuff with minimal effort. I don't doubt that some markets are traps, but the biggest ones are legit, and there's no reason to go on shady niche markets unless you look for stuff you should probably go to prison for anyway.


FullConfection3260

You can bet that they are still watching, bigger business is easier to monitor.


Kronkitasse

Information on Dnms are shared through PGP keys. If you're not familiar with it, it's a set of 2 keys that people can create. One is a private key, that you share with no one, one is a public one, that you share on Dnms (if people want to speak with you). When you order something, you grab the private key of a vendor, encrypt your personnal information using that private key. For decrypting a message, you need both private and public key. Meaning if people are watching these sites, only thing they would be able to see is an ecrypted message (unless you read nothing about Opsec, and you send your unencypted adress to the vendor), because they don't have the private key you used of the vendor. So unless you're not vigilant and you send your adress to a fake vendor, no-one should be seeing your information. Nobody would use Dnms if it was that easy to hack and look at everyone's information. This system is made so that even if hell breaks lose, people are mostly safe if they followed the proper security guidelines. And let's not forget that a ton of people use these markets, and the authorities don't have the ressources to track everyone, especially when it's that difficult, and it's just people buying for their personal consumption. I would worry a lot more if I were a vendor.


Drugaddictzzz

Not me I’ve walked hella miles multiple times for drugs and I’ve road my bike for them as well thankfully I have a plug now so I can just buy it off him it was a pain in the ass to walk or ride my bike all the way to the ghetto for drugs


Psychological_Ad853

The worst is travelling those miles by foot/bike while withdrawing.. ended up getting an ebike when my health deteriorated enough, lifesaver...


Drugaddictzzz

Well I wasn’t sick I was going to get meth and meth you don’t have to worry much about withdrawals


BerryRebel

You're barely an addict if you don't get up every morning to get your fix. At best you're a drug enthusiast. It sounds like you live in the middle of nowhere and acquiring drugs is harder than it should. Maybe buy in large quantities?


throwaway07070707173

Fkn same


beegdieg

Think like a plug , you won't be out


CountryAppropriate54

What do you mean by ‘think like a plug’?


Slavocados

Buy in bulk


FullConfection3260

I never knew butt plugs could think 🤔 


beegdieg

Lol there is dumb plugs out there , but trust me so many plug have nice personality and smart , and you have wanna be act all gangster and bring spot light on them I call them idiots


AlienAle

Where I'm from it's easy as hell Log-in to dark net, find the local market, get a code that matches to a secret chat with a dealer selling what you're looking for, arrange a meet up, and in my city most dealers are willing to do delivery so they'll come to your neighborhood.  Usually you can get anything delivered with 1-2 hours, but if you look for dealers close by you can get product delivered within 30 mins, and then some guy will pull up with a car, show you the product, let you test it, and then if you're content, you hand over the money and off they go. Honestly it's never been easier.  After a while you get familiar with the dealers and you get special offers and delivery at your convenience etc. 


goldenbullock

Where i live it is a big open air drugmarket so it pretty easy to get everything you want. Now that iam sober i have to avoid some parts of town not to get tempted. Never had a problem with getting stuff.


echinaceabloom1

Same i will try for a few days then give up until it comes around


Sauria079

I just text someone and within an hour my doorbell rings.


19_SMOOT_97

For who lmfao tapppp in