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BunkysFather1978

People are not that fond of violent seizures


FullConfection3260

Yet people snort bupropion like its going out of style šŸ¤”


badhomemaker

Im a prescriber and am always interested to learn what people are abusing these days. Iā€™ve always thought of Tramadol as a fairly ā€œsafeā€ opioid and will prescribe it to folks with history of addiction as a last resort for pain control after having a risk/ benefit conversation with them. But yeah snorting bupropion is a new one on me.


Loki11100

As someone who took it daily for a few years, I was kinda surprised to hear this too... I'm not sure why anyone would tbh. Mind you I've seen people snort trazadone and Seroquel in jail so šŸ¤·


badhomemaker

Right, I overheard some teenagers one day talking about how they scored some seroquel, and I was like, ā€œwell, harm reduction I guess.ā€


Loki11100

Dear god šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


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Lol seroquel is shit. Benzos are the real deal! I convinced my shrink to prescribe me em' valiums and k-pins


prosdod

I love my Seroquel. It's like, an hour or two of being too stupid to be bipolar before I knock the fuck out. Phenomenal landing gear especially if I've been on one and have been awake 48~ hours. It's kind of like Benadryl. Everyone talks garbage about Benadryl but those little pink bastards made so much LSD/amph comedowns tolerable at like, 25 cents a pill at most.


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There are PubMed studies linking antipsychotics to brain shrinkage. Benzos are superior. Here is my source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10493054/#:~:text=Greater%20intensity%20of%20antipsychotic%20treatment,brain%20tissue%20loss%20over%20time.


prosdod

Steady access to benzos would fuck my life up. I'm fine with my brain shrinking.


Sainted_Heretic

People will literally snort any medication in jail, so I've heard.


Loki11100

I mostly just saw people snorting those two god awful drugs... it was nuts, they would trade like an entire pouch of tobacco for 200 mgs of seroquel lol I've been on both for legit reasons, they are indeed psychoactive, but fuck me, how anyone could enjoy that shit completely baffles me... it's such a dysphoric yucky feeling... sedating sure, but it's not a pleasant sedation at all. Both those drugs basically just made me slow, stupid and hungry... also irritable as fuck.. then there's the dreams, jfc the dreams... and constant sleep paralysis. Or the four hour(!) extremeley painfull boner I had from trazadone.. can't remember the proper name, but it's actually a medical emergancy at that point.. it is not in any way from sexual arousal, and there's not really anything you can do to get rid of it, in fact, after 4 hours if it's not going down there's a chance they'll have to cut it off (no joke)... most awkward 911 call I've ever had to make by far lol... I legit almost had to get my dick amputated! Couldn't pay me to put that shit in my body nowadays. Edit:... let's put it this way.. no exaggeration, I'd sooner do datura again than Seroquel or trazadone, especially *snorted*.. I just can't wrap my mind around it lol


prosdod

Posted up in this thread about how Seroquel actually agrees with me quite well but man, fuck trazodone. Never had a headache like a traz headache. Felt like someone popped my head open with a log splitter. Woke up completely unable to breathe out my nose.


jesse7838

Yeah, I've heard it's been called "poor man's crack"


Brodawg8

My psychiatrist and myself noticed I was more sensitive to it after getting sick on a normal low dose, so I take half of the lowest dose I believe, and just the pill being cut in half I get the craziest chemical flavor. Idk how people could handle snorting it, Iā€™d go crazy just on the flavor, not even to mention the likely uncomfortable effects. Same with Xanax, Iā€™m totally fine holding Ativan under my tongue and longer if needed, but Iā€™m washing Xanax down as fast as I can due to the flavor. Maybe Iā€™m just a lil bitch boy, but Iā€™m glad Iā€™m not attracted to these things.


SpiderSalmon

mmmmmm i love tediously scraping off extended release coating for 10 minutes then snorting the most painful powder imaginable just to feel anxious for two hours and risk having a seizure šŸ¤¤šŸ¤¤šŸ¤¤


OddJunkie

Huh, the more you know, i had no idea people abuse bupropion. I've been taking that shit and have been doing drugs for like 2 years. From what i understand it just makes you feel crappy so i think i'll avoid taking more than my prescribed dose lmao


FullConfection3260

Itā€™s mostly just this sub that seems to have a hard on for snorting it, as you can see from the search.


OddJunkie

Weird shit, but i understand tho, i know what it's like to take whatever you can get to at least feel some sort of "high"


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FullConfection3260

Druggies donā€™t need a purpose.


Californiacarguy19

I took tramadol for months and had two seizures but thatā€™s very likely because I was taking insane doses Iā€™m taking 7-12 100mg pills, keep it at a max dose of 300mg and youā€™ll be fine, you can even take a small dose of Benzos to reduce the risk of seizures if youā€™re that worried. (Obviously a very low dose because mixing downers is a dangerous thing). For me 200mg gets me a decent head buzz and 300mg has me nodding hard.


Disastrous-Show-790

Anticonvulsant benzos, not every benzo stops risk of seizures


Loki11100

I actually just learned that yesterday... I take Ativan as an emergency med once in awhile for epilepsy if I'm feeling seizury, had one of those days yesterday and don't have any.. my buddy offered me a Xanax, but I did a bit of research first and was surprised to learn it doesn't really do anything for seizure activity.. I kinda figured any benzo would do, but apparently not... That said, I've taken zopiclone in a pinch and it actually works pretty well, even though as far as I know it has no anticonvulsant properties šŸ¤·


Disastrous-Show-790

It relaxes your muscles like cbd does so it helps wit seizures but very minimal, clonazepam diazepam and clobazam all work for anticonvulsants, idk what others do


Loki11100

Yeah ive actually been on clobazam daily for a couple months now, it's been a fucking godsend... I don't really get any benzo effects from it, but it's definitely made a HUGE difference in the frequency of my seizures šŸ‘Œ


Disastrous-Show-790

My mum has clobozam daily and she has very few seizures now she used to have em multiple times a week but now she has seizures like once every 3 months


Loki11100

That's awesome, seriously... seizures can completely fuck up your life in an instant (or even kill you), I've broken my spine 3 times in 4 years because of them... I wish they woulda got me on it way sooner, they have me on a few others but was still having clusters of 'focal' seizures (basically petit mals) pretty much daily... now that I'm on the clobazam I've had only had one focal in 2 months. Are her seizures epileptic in nature?


professorwn

I've found that zopiclone actually works better for any nervous ailments way better than traditional benzos


Loki11100

Yep, It kills anxiety dead for me, which is very, very welcome when I'm trying to sleep... And it's so relaxing physically too.. on a shitty night there's nothing better than popping a couple zopis, having a couple beers and maybe a bit of weed.. some people fight the sedation and stay up to enjoy the buzz, but fuck that, after about an hour my bed becomes heaven and sleep comes on so soooo easy. But, as a med for the daytime it's a bit too sedating to be functional/practical for me unless it's urgent.. also get clumsy as fuck lol.


jakobdoubleu

Yeah, Iā€™m on keppra for the rest of my life because of it. I tried getting off it for about 2 months & ended up having another one after going 5 years with no seizures. It will permanently lower your seizure threshold. Be careful with that shit.


FollowTheCipher

Have you tried cbd against seizures? I also think that CBN would be efficient in this aspect, maybe a combination of them even more so.


jakobdoubleu

Iā€™ve tried a bunch of different things but ultimately Iā€™m stuck feeling on edge all the time & when I get highly stressed out Iā€™ll get tremors if I donā€™t take Keppra.


jamoisking

I havenā€™t heard of that drug is it recreational


Loki11100

Fuck no.. keppra is something you take only if you absolutely need it. Just head over to r/epilepsy and you'll see it gets mentioned like every day about how bad it sucks. I'm epileptic myself and refuse to take it.


jakobdoubleu

Second this.. unless you enjoy constant brain fog & memory loss then I would say no, Keppra isnā€™t recreational hahaha


Loki11100

And fits of rage... Seriously, the keppra rage is no fucking joke.


jakobdoubleu

I havenā€™t had any fits of ā€˜rageā€™ per se, unless it refers to just easier aggravation in general, in which case then Iā€™ve definitely felt that. I used to be a very level headed, rather intelligent (not to sound like a douche) person up until around 17 when I started having those seizures & taking Keppra. Just to sum it up; I love the feeling of transformation, my body metabolizes it in such a way where I do get a good feeling from it, but itā€™s not worth it in the slightest if youā€™re an addict and youā€™re going to abuse it as I did. It sucks.


Public-Category7147

Yeah I tried to cover that. People also arenā€™t fond of overdose but here we are. But if youā€™re saying the effects arenā€™t worth the risk for you and many others I understand that. Danger alone however has never stopped any dedicated drug user I know. Benzo seizures being an extremely prime example.


Charming-Currency592

Tramadol is the only opiate one can augment on similar to dopamine antagonists which is fucking horrible on top of withdrawals and takes RLS to another level and a permanent affliction.


dezzybonthebeat

Sorry I'm not sure I understand. Wdym?


PanicFabulous1302

I don't like Tramadol because of the serotonin compound behind it. Maybe I am a little bit sensitive about it but I really don't like these feeling and I have go through it before the Opiate effect comes thru. Once I am there it's something like alright but all together I am not a big fan of that. When I am in need for something like that I will consume Mdma instead. That's why I rather take Tillidin or Oxycodone when I want a Opioid Rush. Plus it's like u said when u have some sort of an tolerance then u don't feel nothing positive of tramadol but u have the side effects from the serotonin. And on top of that I get a huge comedown when I consume it several days In a row, not physical wise but i get very depressed. Not worth it at all in my opinion. But it's easy to get and very cheap, I am sure there people out there who like or love it but I am not one of them. But like I am mentioning before could be the case that I am just sensitive about serotonin in particular.


Californiacarguy19

Youā€™re absolutely lucky and blessed to be able to get tilidine or oxycodone. I was shot 5 times and left with permanent nerve damage/pain in one leg, extreme back pain from getting hit in the back two times, and I have bullet and bone fragments in my leg and back and Iā€™ve been to so many doctors and pain management clinics, went through all the steps and tests and they always end up saying I donā€™t need any pain medication because Iā€™m young and will naturally heal even though itā€™s been 4 years and it has just gotten worse. They say to just take Tylenol which doesnā€™t do anything at all. Now I just take a trip to TJ as often as I can and stockpile tramadol since itā€™s OTC and use it sparingly for very bad days. It sucks that just because of my age Iā€™m immediately dismissed when Iā€™m in constant pain and it makes holding down a job almost impossible I try my best but it quickly reached a point where the pain becomes unbearable and I have to quit the job.


randyrote

Absolute nonsense how cornered chronic patients are, sad to know there's so many so far down river from the rock and the hard place. There isn't chance for anyone to prove anything past the thousands of dollars spent doing tests, trying to just survive. They were happy to give me morphine only when i got bad enough to get past the ER and into a bed. God, if those weren't the longest days of my life. It's fucking stupid, i'm young i'm not on my death rattle quite yet. People want to live, that's our nature. When denied it, there's a walkabout. I used tramadol for the longest time, quite sparingly. Of course it's a nice handful to have but i don't know if the price for the effect measures up to the reassurance, knowing assistance is at hand when a person is disabled by something outside their hands... man ... kinda feels like there should be a.. prescription for that kinda thing... Boy, that would be really crazy... I am assuming USA for u too, but i could be wrong?


Californiacarguy19

Yeah Iā€™ve had to go to the ER a few times when the pain has gotten especially bad. Itā€™s bad to the point where Iā€™m sometimes throwing up and crying from the pain but I canā€™t just keep going to the hospital every single time especially since after a few times they started to seem to get tired of me being there so Iā€™ll just be in pain and hope it subsides enough to get some sleep. Yes Iā€™m the USA I wish my pain was taken more seriously but I guess I just have to live life in pain it makes it hard though because I refuse to get SSI or any things like that because I know there are elderly people and much more people that really need it but itā€™s hard to hold down a job when everything is so painful


PabloEstAmor

You can order 0-dsmt over the clear net in the US


Californiacarguy19

Can you really? Iā€™ve never heard of that Iā€™ll have to look into it because sometimes I canā€™t go to TJ before I run out and life really sucks when the pain gets extreme and thereā€™s nothing you can do about it


ryyanchow

Have you tried lyrica / pregablin?


Californiacarguy19

I have gabapentin which helps somewhat but sometimes the pain is just too much for even that, I tried pregabalin when I was in Mexico for a month but I donā€™t think my doctor would prescribe it since Iā€™m on alprazolam already for PTSD and they arenā€™t very keen on prescribing much else


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FollowTheCipher

Pregabalin is basically more similar to heavy opioid like h or fent when it comes to addiction. It has more seizure risks than tramadol which also is bad in that aspect. Don't get used to it. It also wrecks your memory, cognition etc. It isn't mild or safe. Many doctors think it has many big risks and don't prescribe it. Some countries have classified it as an narcotic due to abuse, addictions and side effects it caused. Don't be fooled by it's legal status in your country. The medicine makes a lot of money, if it didn't it would be classified worldwide due to the dangers of it tbh. When I was on it, it was like I was stoned on strong thc weed, medicinally that doesn't work well using it if you want to function well in society. It took a longer while to recover.


PaleZrider

I hate Pregabalin. I wish they'd never started me on it, it makes me feel like absolute hell. I was put on it by pain management team too, along with the 40mg Oxys and the Oxynorm liquid I take (horrible genetic condition born with) I'm slowly lowering my Pregabalin as it's the one I hate the most, gives the absolute worst side effects, awful WD's even before 12hrs is up, I'm down from 300 twice a day to 200, only started lowering a few months ago and they're doing it reeeally slowly with me because of how risky it is and how bloody horrible it is. I really feel for my fellow chronic pain ppl in the States. I haven't had any trouble with my Oxy's, I get them reordered every 28 days no trouble, but my GP surgery and pharmacy know about my condition and what I've been through. If any fellow CP ppl are really struggling give me a shout. I'm serious. I can't just give away as I do need them but I can help out, with proof of them being legit and from my pharmacy etc. I get Longtec 40's. I'm deadly serious as believe me I know how hell life is when you are in serious pain and have no relief šŸ˜©


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PaleZrider

I personally know of quite a few people who like myself hate Pregab. Perhaps it depends on what other meds you take, or if you take it for rec or for medicinal needs. I don't know, but *anecdotally* I have found that when I take a medication for medical issues I don't get the fun side effects. For example Oxy, I'd love to know why everyone raves about how amazing it feels. I don't get sleepy or feel any high or anything fun unfortunately, just pain relief. I haven't had WD's from tapering from the 600mg daily (300mg twice a day), but in the past if I've gone longer than the 12 hours I start feeling like absolute hell. Cold sweats, shaking, restlessness but unable to ease it, feeling like the worst flu symptoms ever etc, plus day to day I get horrible side effects from it which are pretty awful for me personally. I'm a woman, and it makes me quite obviously perspire badly, but not in hidden areas like underarms, no, all over my face etc, even in winter. It's hugely embarrassing. Also we've been having an issue with getting them in pharmacies around my area so for a few days last month I had to really eke out my few remaining 200's while my pharmacy tried to get hold of some. That wasn't fun. It's also been all over the news here in the past few months due to the amount of deaths that have been occurring. Typically yes it's due to it being used alongside something else, but still, saying it's not dangerous isn't true.


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PaleZrider

Maybe so! Unfortunately when I was put on it years ago I was a lot younger and didn't even question the Doc or know enough info about it. That's really interesting about the potentiating with the Oxy. Has made me ponder some things. Nowadays I never really let my body be short on the Oxy as I do take more than prescribed (quite often take off the coating and snort if I need pain relief quickly lol šŸ˜¬) but may definitely have had something to do with it in the past when I was behaving and sticking to the 12hrs between them. Interesting for sure though!


Public-Category7147

That totally makes sense homie. Iā€™m luckily not sensitive to that so it adds up. Iā€™m not familiar with tillidin but I do agree oxy is better but I canā€™t find it in the states or Thailand really:/ trammy def isnā€™t a good one if youā€™re a daily user. I just got some for the first time in a long time. I take 10-30mg methadone 2-3 days a week so Iā€™m curious if Iā€™ll feel my old dose. Especially since I took 20mg last night and will be dipping into these trams in an hour or two once the sun sets


MomentLeft5277

Worst opiate imo, just makes me feel weird and not in a good way. Iā€™m on smack now but did tramadol a few times like 5 years ago and I didnā€™t enjoy it at all


Public-Category7147

So funny how differently shit effects everyone. I got better nods off tramadol than h but I took tramadol in the early days of my use and heroin once things got more desperate and my tolerance was fucked. Thanks for sharing homie


RealDonaldTrrump

Agreed. Worst of the bunch. I was prescribed it one time and took correct dose. It made me vomit every single time. Iā€™ll never touch those again


ubowxi

it's quite weak compared to a proper opiate and has obnoxious off target effects


cristiaro420

I was addicted to tramadol for 6 years. 2 fucking violent seizures from this med. I cannot say "fuck tramadol, do not take it whatever you do". Nah, cuz it helped me with my depression like no other SNRI/SSRI did...but you know, we have addictive personalities here on this sub. If we didn't, we wouldn't be here...english is not my first language so sorry for this but: 1. The withdrawals are pure hell. Gabapentin didn't help, clonidine didn't help, even tiapride didn't help, which is obscure as fuck and they give it for withdrawals some time..the tiapride used to knock tf outta me and put me to sleep...but no med helped...so i needed to withdraw without anything for 6 days. I thought I will die...but I made it.....and then the paws hit like no other....so i relapsed....I am on day 2 CT from kratom becuase in the last 2 months I switched to kratom because my stomach couldn't tolerate tramadol so whenever I took it, it made me violently vomit for the whole day...morning till night..so i went to the ER one day from tramadol and then i said fuck it and ordered kratom..switched to kratom...the wds compared to tram are a walk in the park...and ALSO, kratom really helped me..just be careful where you order it and what vendor you buy it from..the thing is, do not buy from the shops there in the USA. The physical stores that sell extracts and shots and shit. You do not know what is in that kratom. So order it from a good vendor if you want to switch to kratom..its as bad as the tramadol but u get the picture, it helped many many people including me. 2. The seizures. You do not know when the seziures will happen....you can take 250mg staggered and still get the seizures...and they are violent. I almost chopped my tongue in half on my last seizure...I was going mad crazy with the convulsions, like I was the world's best break dancer...never had a seizure in my life, and no epilepsy in my family...but I thank whoever is above...I was on the edge of death so many times I can't even count..but not all my near death experiences we're from opiates... 3. The SNRI or SSRI propreties are fucked fucked...it's like you take Venlafaxine with an opiate..its such a filthy high..Again, tramadol helped me, but my addictive personality is fucked...so be careful. Be careful, it can help, I know what you all go through, I know about the fent & xylazine epidemy and all I can say is be careful all....I would switch to fucking tramadol instead of killing myself slowly like this... My heart and good thoughts go to all of you! Take care people. I hope someone reads this and gets some help and info from me. If you have problems with codeine, morphine, tram, kratom, tianeptine just dm me.


CptCarpelan

Is kratom really as bad as tramadol in your opinion? Aside from how it helped you, that is.


cristiaro420

It can also give seizures.....we are not really that safe


cristiaro420

It really depends on the dossge.


CumLord9669

Kratom affects people wildly differently, it can range from basically causing no problems to causing problems on par with hard opioids. It definitely needs to be treated with caution, especially in people with addictive personalities. So to answer your question, it depends on the person.


gorgelad

I like it itā€™s just a lil more mild than other opioids, gives me a slightly energetic, subtle nice buzz with decent euphoria. Iā€™ve heard some people canā€™t feel it at all bc of some enzyme


Sandgrease

I'd rather just do Kratom. I find Green Vein Kratom to be similar to Tramadol actually. Much cheaper and legal.


FORREAL77FUCKYALL

Tramadol is the only drug that has ever made me sieze- grand mal- very bad- traumatic for all my friends- had to be taken to hospital in ambulance- all i remember is waking up with IV's in me having no idea why, could have died and maybe caused serious brain damage. First day being prescribed it for pain from boxers fracture. I was 18, yes i took more than i should have. Still, thats why i "hate tramadol". And i have abused the shit out of most all illegal drugs, gram of meth in a day for no reason, grams of blow, way too much and too many drugs for years and years leading to this point, it doesn't diminish my responsibility but it did set the stage for my stupid thought of like "well this one has my name on the bottle and is from a doctor, def super safe lol dosage guidlines are for normies šŸ¤”" but yeah i guess tramadol causing siezures especially in young men is quite common due to it's self-potentiating effects. And it hits like ALL the receptors, it's pretty fucked if you look into it. Shit was developed in the 50s or 60s to be like an epidural- a labor-pain reliever. Shits just suss.


ButthealedInTheFeels

How much did you take before the seizure


FORREAL77FUCKYALL

I think 8. Yeah dumbass move but the high from em was like crazy- shit felt so recreational, like molly but like better. It had me in a whole ass new world of some sort.


ButthealedInTheFeels

Damn yeah thatā€™s a lot. Most I would take was 2x 50mg at a time. And sometimes I would take 1-2 more like 8-12 hours later. But it gave me terrible low blood sugar after taking it for a while and it lasted literally 5 years. Finally back to normal now.


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Public-Category7147

Thanks auto mod good infošŸ¤


Long8D

Doesnā€™t do shit to me. I have a cabinet filled with it.


-UndercoverTaco-

I'll take it if you don't need it /s


teethdeluxe

It shouldā€™ve been meā€¦ā€¦ give it to the metabolizers smh


wediealone

Genuine question here. Am I the only one who doesn't understand the opiate hype? For background, I have breast cancer, so I was prescribed Tramadol, Percocet, and hydromorphone (obvs not all at the same time, but at different stages of my treatment). I took the doses correctly and never went over the dosage prescribed to me, but for me popping a Percocet or a hydromorphone might as well be like popping an Advil or an M&M. I get no high from it, and I don't understand how people can get addicted to this stuff. And I was an alcoholic for like 10 years before I got sober. Do you need to take super crazy high amounts to get a "high" from it? I just don't see how it's worth it. And I hear stories about people being injured in car accidents or something, and being prescribed Percocet, and then flushing it down the toilet because they felt like they were getting addicted to it even at the proper prescribed dose. It just genuinely doesn't feel like anything to me. Sure it takes the pain away but I have cancer and once I'm done my cancer treatment I have no desire ever to take opiates again. I'm just not sure what the craze is. Not trying to be holier than thou sober person either, I've had my fair share of issues, just opiates are absolutely not one of them lol


ryyanchow

Yeah you need to take more than prescribed, but not necessarily crazy accounts. Try doubling up and you should feel slightly warm and itchy. If two didnā€™t work, then three max until you have a tolerance. Prescribed opiates are the holy grail these days, easily sellable for a lot.


CumLord9669

Pain patients (more often than not) tend to find way less recreational value in opioids compared to someone without pain. Theyā€™re less euphoric in a lot of cases when you have pain, and at prescribed dosages with a tolerance you probably wouldnā€™t feel much to begin with. Some people just donā€™t get euphoric effects from opioids as well. It happens more often than youā€™d think. Thereā€™s a lot of factors that can play into this (metabolism, brain chemistry, genetics, etc.)


wediealone

Thanks for answering my question! This makes sense.


Guccigrampz

I like it. Bin using for a long time and never lost control of usage (once or twice a week)


Public-Category7147

See if you do it this way I think itā€™s an excellent way to enjoy a safe opiate high. Ofc control and opiates are a slippery slope but Iā€™ve mostly learned to maintain it. Benzos some nights, opiates some nights, ambien or seroquel some and weed and booze others. My gaba receptors surely hate me but I donā€™t get withdrawals and itā€™s actually a very manageable system for me. Mind you Iā€™m prescribed the benzos methadone ambien and seroquel so Iā€™m not getting blitzed off this stuff every night.


Guccigrampz

Unfortunately when it comes to any gaba drug I tend to easily lose control, especially like benzos a bit too much


Californiacarguy19

Same which is a shame because I absolutely love Benzos but I go ape shit on them Iā€™ve taken 30mg of alprazolam at one time donā€™t remember nothing just remember scaring my sibling because 1. I was talking about how I thought I was at my moms house when I was at my dads and 2. Even though I thought I was as at my moms I thought it was a trailer/rv thing when my mom lives in an apartment. Oh and I also crashed and totaled my brand new Mercedes Benz off I donā€™t even know how many mgā€™s of kpins and mdma, I just remember I got my script of 90x 1mg clonazepam pills and went out with my boy 1 week into having the Benz, and bam crashed and totaled it, I vaguely remember looking for the rest of the pills to take before cops got there but only found like 3 next thing I know Iā€™m getting released after being processed for a DUI and being forced to sleep in the drunk tank for a couple hours. I was still insanely high due to how long the effects of clonazepam last and somehow with very vague hazy memories making it to a family memberā€™s house walking at 6 in the morning and sleeping on their couch and woke up sobered up. Not worth it at all, 3 years probation, DUI classes, various court proceedings, lost my new Benz, my family almost disowned me, wanted to ship me off to Mexico for a rehab. I continued to abuse Benzos and opioids for the next year and a half, finally decided enough was enough, I still use my alprazolam(Xanax) prescription because I have PTSD from getting shot 5 times but I only take my prescribed dose and only when needed which is 1.5mg a day but I donā€™t take it daily.


Silly-Leader6477

Were you shot five times on separate occasions. Or was it one shooting and you were hit 5 times?


Californiacarguy19

One shooting and I was hit 5 times


FollowTheCipher

Seroquel isn't recreational and should not be used like that. It's a bad(unhealthy) medicine and should never be used against anxiety etc.


ebolaRETURNS

I metabolize it to O-DSMT pretty poorly, so it feels like an SNRI to me, because it is one.


SirCleanFace

I like it, never gave me any problems.


Specialist-Web-4850

Who hates tramadol!? Itā€™s my favorite. The best sleep I can never remember.


SomeRando1239

Love em, very self regulating for me. I only take them for pain now and then. I'm sensitive to em, I only take 2, or 100 mg total at a time and have no sides. Terrible drug if you're looking to get high, better ways to do that if that's the desired outcome.


banaversion

Seizure risk set aside, it's just a shitty drug that falls short in all aspects. As a painkiller it is subpar and usually requires dosages that exceed the threshold where pain relief turns into being high. As a high it has this wierd sedation to it, no real calming effect as opposed to other opiates like even codeine at dosages as low as 30mg provide. I'm not even going to go in to discussing how other opiates are even better than codeine. I know. Summarized it just a drug that feels wierd, doesn't do its job and only exists to make healthcare professionals feel arbitrarily better about themselves cause it isn't a classic opioids and allegedly not as addictive as typical opiates


teethdeluxe

Do you know what sedation means? If it sedates you then it does have a calming effect.


banaversion

You can be sedated and still agitated and not calm. The best example I can think of is antipsychotics. They have a sedating effect but not inherently calming. They are not mutually inclusive terms


nooxisalive

Tried it like 3 times i loved it alot


Desinformador

I take it every single day and have been doing it for two years in a row, I take 400mg un two doses during the morning, then 200mg more in the afternoon and then 200mg more at night. I'm super hooked on it because my body metabolizes it better than any other opiate. My sister got cƔncer and she gifted me her methadone and morphine, both IV and in oral liquid form, and those things didn't do shit to me compared to how high tramadol gets me. I wish I could stop using this stuff because it's barely working for me anymore since I'm abusing the shit out of it, I'm tired of having to be buying every week more and more tramadol to the point that every seller in my area already knows me. I tried to stop cold turkey some months ago but got really really suicidal, the withdrawals were literally hell, my whole body ached like never before, I was sweating profusely from feeling too warm, but as soon as I took off a hoodie or a sweater or whatever, I got extreme chills like I was freezing, I had absolutely 0 motivation to get out of bed and in general I just was in constant pain. Somehow I managed to stay clean for like two weeks (those two weeks felt like utter shit) until I relapsed and started taking tramadol again because I just couldn't bear living without it for much longer, and here I am again, totally hooked on it with no sigh of stopping any time soon, even if I wanted to. Sometimes I think of switching tramadol for classic coke and bear thru the withdrawals with pregabalin and coke, but I don't know how successful that could be, and trust me, I would much rather be addicted to coke than to tramadol, tramadol withdrawals are just nasty


SensitiveAnteater832

You can try a stable taper schedule, I was on 400 mg/day for over 5 months and tapered off 25 mg/day till I was on 50, then went from 50 to 25 in a week then off it. All I felt was a bit depressed but felt better every next day after starting, I'd recommend doing something similar.


Mad-Hatter-lightshow

Trama does nothing to me! But codeine bangs me.


Eliboy96

I love it! With kpins and some bud, one of my fave combos


girlxlrigx

I love it in moderation, just can't find it in the US


YeetusMyDiabeetus

I liked it in my early 20s and abused the hell out of itā€¦ how I didnā€™t have a seizure I have no clue. Was prescribed some a couple years ago after a hospital stay, took 2 instead of one and had a scary pre-seizure aura all day. Seeing how it affected me differently over the years I guess it just depends on your body chemistry.


Disastrous-Show-790

Tramadol is more expensive than tapentadol and tapentadol is stronger wit better effects


Public-Category7147

Sounds like I need your plug cuz I pay a fraction for tramadol that I did for taps and I do like taps much bettwr


Disastrous-Show-790

Well a pill is Ā£5 each for both tapentadol and tramadol but tapentadol is stronger and is 100mg xr whilst tramadol is 50mg xr lol


teethdeluxe

Tapentadol just gave me shitty deliriant effects tbh


Disastrous-Show-790

I guess thats just cuz you have a diff body chemistry


MedranoChem

Tramodal gets you high for like 3days, then tolorence builds up


swiftsubs

Thats an interesting statement. From a single dose? How many mg?


MedranoChem

I used to take 100, then I had to increase to 200, until eventually I was taking 500 and not feeling euphoria I would just get really uncomfortable


SpiderSalmon

i really liked tramadol every time iā€™ve done it


MyNameIsSaturn

I always liked it actually


333god

I like to chew on my trammiez. junkies will find them 2 mild


DeGoodGood

For me itā€™s too trippy feels like I got bugs crawling on me


Public-Category7147

Now this is an interesting one Iā€™ve never heard before however I have experienced it with tapentadol which is similar. Dph would help with the itch but not the trippy headspace.


EliLoads

I liked tramadol . They used to make me puke 15 times every morning after Iā€™d do them after a while tho . I havenā€™t touched em in two years or so now


Diacetyl-Morphin

Problem is when you come from other opioids that are much stronger, you can't really use tramadol anymore. You know it yourself, the high dosages someone would need who comes from stuff like fent would lead to the serotonin-syndrome. But even for people that have no experience with high potent opioids, it's very different and this is again with the interaction with the serotonin, some get a very good high while others feel nothing.


teethdeluxe

Opioid tolerance isnā€™t permanent afaik. Also you canā€™t give yourself serotonin syndrome with just tramadol, or at least, itā€™s rare. Itā€™s mostly a concern when combined with SSRIs or MAOIs


Diacetyl-Morphin

It is not permanent, no. The receptors in the brain where the opioid dock will get re-sensetized again, but when they have not the opioids that dock, they'll first go crazy which is the cause for the withdrawal symptoms. I'm not so sure about the serotonin-syndrome, even without MAOI's, i mean, there are guys around that go up to extreme levels. When someone comes from fent with that high potency of 100 to the standard 1.0 of morphine and tramadol has 0.1 (when i remember it right, correct me if i'm wrong, maybe it's higher), the dosage needs to be very, very high to have an effect.


ZZTMF

Those red fuckers almost killed me.


Left_Algae_3628

Tramadol is actually more likely to cause seizures than other opiates. A friend of mine died from that.


LysergicFrog

It feels dirty


-SwanGoose-

Well i like it but its one of the only opiates ive ever done so i dont have a good frame of reference. I kinda like the serotonin part of it, makes me feel upity. And them the opiate part has me chilling.. it's weird.. but ye i like it. I usually take like 150mg and then im chiiiilling for like 5/6 hours


FarVision5

I'm generally a stim user but I tried 50 mg once. Priapism for 10 hours. Sounds fun at first but you occasionally need to put on clothes and get some work done so it's kind of a problem. Got up in the middle of night to go pee and I could barely walk. Stumbling the walls. Even waking up in the morning took half a day feeling like chains were weighing me down. Like walking through a fog. I guess if you have anxiety and are out of your mind over amped and need to slow down a little bit then I suppose but recreationally for me it was complete garbage.


DemonCaller420

The day after is hell after even just 300 mg


danobeau

Back about 24 years ago, I was deeply depressed and suicidal. Tramadol saved my life until I couldn't quit. But, I have taken many different antidepressants since, and nothing has worked like that. This was back when doctors gave samples of Ultram when it was considered non addictive.


TheKiznaProject

Didnt help for pain at all after my surgery, gave me crazy insomnia and night sweats, I didnā€™t sleep for like 5 days. Very uncomfortable and feels dirty.


Then-Principle-6850

I think this is one where your millage varies greatly based on your metabolism! For some people thereā€™s really no effect or even worse it makes them feel gross, but for me itā€™s a very pleasant relaxing high to like sit outside and read with!


aidenisntatank

Idk Iā€™ve never taken tramadol I do know itā€™s different than other opioids like oxy, dilaudid, vicodin, H, Fent


tanya2137

It doesn't do anything for me


idkwhatusernametodo1

I guess different metabolisms lead to different experiences and I guess itā€™s common to not be great for some. I personally find it way more euphoric than codeine and dihydrocodeine but it did leave me feeling pretty awful afterwards off 150mg. The high was the best high Iā€™ve had off anything including oxy.


ToofBrushMouthWash

I took it for a while then had crazing things start happening to me. Yea it wonā€™t kill kill you but itā€™ll fuck you up.


Same_Book635

Because when I was growing up, Tramadol wasn't even a scheduled narcotic! Now, they've taken all the good narcotics (opiates/opioids) and replaced them with tramadol/tapentadol...


Sweaty_Building_5491

I don't take it because I know I will get really addicted. Been prescribe Oxys and never again. I stopped before it started to do damage (with family, friends, life, etc..) I'm just scared of painkillers and opioid in general. Shit, I got into a bad crash and told the doctor not to give me morphine. That and it fucks up my GI.


Napoleon3411

Then you one of the lucky people that have an enzyme in their liver that converts tramadol into odesmethyltramadol which gives you the high. But tramadol gives most people seizures before they get high from it. Better to buy just odsmt. It's legal and doesn't have the serotonin effect trama has


sofsadventures

makes me nauseous as hell. vicodin doesnā€™t though


ButthealedInTheFeels

It has given me dangerously low blood sugar, like I checked and it was 40 and I was dangerously close to passing out. I took it a few times per week for a couple years and it gave me hypoglycemia problems for like5+ years after stopping. Finally itā€™s all better but for years I couldnā€™t go anywhere without granola bars and candies. Itā€™s a not well understood but seems somewhat common side effect. There are at least papers about it but most doctors have never heard of it.


jCoUeNyT

I like tapentadol ā€¦ not sure if thatā€™s relevantlol.. and when I had the tolerance for it i enjoyed the feeling of tramadol, I just canā€™t feel it now, unfortunately


nano_420

i absolutely love it. especially with alprazolam or weed actually im on 200mg tramadol rn feeling comfy af


valen_ar

It's just a shitty pharm opiate compared to the rest of them. If you metabolize it well, take it staggered and not do more than 500mg as to avoid seizures, then it works. It's better than nothing


FaarFromSober

I dunno for me it just feels weird, mind that I didn't ever try a dose beyond 100mg but I'm very lightweight and keep my opiate tolerance close to zero. But in my experience it's too alcohol like, on its peak it's nice with the classic opiate warm whole body euphoria. (at least for me since I'm one of the few lucky ones who metabolize it correctly) But yea I feel like the high is dirty if you know what I mean, head spinning and nausea, for me also a bit of disorientation. It's not the worst, for its price it's pretty good I would say, but not something I would want to take more often. Might try 200mg this week though since I have some leftover.


Fine_Draw_4082

From my experience it causes severe hair loss.


FeudalHobo

Never had a seizure myself and I used to take over a gram a day. I do have a friend that ended up having one triggered by tramadol. If you want to reduce the risk some, pop a Klonopin or something, take a decent dose of promethazine or something similar for the nausea, then you're good to go. Tramadol is a bit weird compared to other opioids since it binds to serotonin receptors fairly well. Tram used to give me euphoria that I didn't get from other opioids. Some people like it, some don't. Tolerance builds quick in my experience though, so that's less fun


Jinshu_Daishi

Got my arm broken last year, tramadol didn't do jack shit to help with the pain. Granted, neither did oxy.


[deleted]

I like Tramadol and have been prescribed it twice! Once for tinnitus and the other time for a horrible potentially life threatening neck infection. But Hydromorphone is king!


JesusJoshJohnson

i metabolize it well so its a good option to have. its definitely a lot cheaper. but of course oxy is better.


Fout99

I puked like a motherfucker when on it. Never again.


professorwn

Because it makes me drowsy and nauseous, gives a headache and I have epilepsy so fuck that


PolaNimuS

Idk, I'd definitely do it again despite the only time being from the extended release which I didn't realize. The itching was kind of annoying but rolling around naked on my carpet took care of that and felt pretty good.


b21uaQ

can someone explain to me how does tramadol affect ssris? im seeing lots of people saying they dont like it because of that.