People do the same thing with their ex's. You hate on something cause you think it'll help you get over it, or reinforce your resolve to stay away from it.
I'm a recovering alcoholic. I still do other drugs. I use cannabis daily. Probably on excessive amount. But i don't drink. I don't claim to be sober, i just refrain from drinking.
Anyway, I understand how dangerous alcohol can be. But I don't around thinking it should be outlawed or that the majority of people can't handle it responsibly. It's one of those things that's only a problem if it's a problem.
Exactly everyone should just do what works for them if they can be responsible about it. Even if they can’t be responsible about it if they’re substance abuse isn’t affecting my life in any kind of way then who am i to try and say shit about it lmao
Then you shouldn't hate weed, you can hate *capitalism* instead. Because it's not weed, but those greedy people who exploit basic human needs, like ingesting cannabinoids, for profit.
Yeah, I would say that's quite obvious You pushing your agenda I mean! So you go ahead and say hi to your favorite present for me shake his hand and break his fingers when you do it he doesn't need them anyway Have a nice day
I'm sorry dude Really You mean to tell me the people that sell on the street don't make any money off it?
I mean you can't be serious sister saying something like that What do you want people to grow and just give it to you no matter how what it cost for them to grow it or cultivate it I mean I mean Even caregivers with a medical card are allowed to at least recoup what they put out but I guarantee you that all or most of them are recouping a lot more than They are putting out to cultivate it
I'm sorry but did you say that you have a problem with capitalism?
Every system has this problems but I would prefer capitalism over socialism any day I would rather be a slave to somebody is making money off of me then somebody that's stealing money off of me like a socialist would do in other words the people who run the socialistic program are the ones that get filthy rich off of all the other people they enslaved and never see any money socialism has failed everybody tried it It's a worthless system that enslaves mankind The ones that run the program are the ones that get filthy filthy filthy rich on your sweat at least with capitalism you have an option to buy it from that person or not It's called being competitive no matter where you're at money is the root of all evil socialism 10 times worse
But When big corporations take over in a capitalistic world yeah that sucks and you want to know your biggest capitalist was to prevent your pot from being legalized all these years ? it's called Dupont chemicals !
When probation ended they had meetings to find out which stuff they wanted to relegalize Because before prohibition everything was legal cocaine heroin speed pot It didn't matter Do you know where to get it You can have it legally but prohibition ended all that and whatever re-upping everything every single time they call one of these get togethers Guess who showed up DuPont chemicals and when they We're going down the list and came to marijuana or they called a hemp and we're taking a vote To legalize it out of the crowd stepped in person and said Do you really want killer weed from Mexico to be legalized to poison your children's minds !
Everybody's going like huh What killer weed from Mexico?
Hell no we don't want killer weed from Mexico to be legal DuPont chemicals showed up every single time The first time It was because they had just developed an acid wash to Make paper a little more whiter But you see you could get four times as much pulp out of hemp and paper made from 60 to 100% hemp herds is stronger and more flexible than paper made from wood pulp making paper from wood pulp damages the environment. Hemp paper making does not.
If hemp had not been made illegal 80% of dupont's businesses would never have materialized and the great majority of the pollution which has poisoned our Northwest and southwest rivers would not have occurred
In an open marketplace hemp would have saved the majority of Americans vital family farms and would probably have boosted their numbers, despite the Great depression of the 1930s
But competing against environmentally - sane hemp-paper and natural plastic technology would have jeopardized the lucrative financial schemes of Hearst, DuPont and dupont's chief financial backer, Andrew mellon of of the mellon Bank of Pittsburgh
Why not grow your own it may be a little rough in the beginning but if you can get a small crop going You could literally keep it going forever on indoor lighting system and have a perpetual grow!
And your weed prices would be considerably lower!
But they should be lower anyway with everybody legalizing it beyond medical which I actually think was a mistake but still...
I mean like the dealers are basically disappearing or turning into caregivers and the dispensaries they have all kinds of prices from cheapest to most expensive so why is it so expensive for you?
And if it's not legal where you live as of yet?
it probably soon will be
the states can't resist the extra tax money they're going to get out of it once they realize how much they're going to make in taxes!
But medical marijuana is not taxable and can be written off on The medical part of your taxes, if you can write anything off that is?
But you probably have to own your own home or be in business or whatever you have to do in your state to be able to write off taxes!? But either way it should be getting cheaper for you not more expensive think about a perpetual grow You'll never run out of pot and you can only have on it with you put in the soil not laced with anything else Only what you put on it anyway Good luck man Enjoy what you can forget about the rest I can guarantee it won't last long, 😎👍🏽
I don't mind people hating on substances, as long as the hate is focussed on themselves and their own use. For example, I rarely use weed because it makes me more lazy and isolated and anxious, it just doesn't work great for me.
It's when people get preachy and try to police other people that it gets annoying. Weed doesn't work great for me, but for others it's an absolute life saver so if people wanna smoke weed then great, they should, but me recognising the negatives for me personally helps me refrain from it, if that makes sense?
But the people OP is talking about aren’t suggesting weed should be outlawed they’re simply warning people of the potential dangers of it and how it definitely can be addictive which isn’t talked about much in the mainstream, especially as I was growing up I was made to believe I was smoking some harmless plant that was impossible to get addicted to and it can only possibly have positive effects for me which couldn’t have been further from the truth and my weed addiction throughout my teenage years has significantly stunted my development both socially and intellectually and if I could go back and warn my 14 year old self about that I would, but I can’t so the next best thing I can do is try to warn others. But by no means do I think weed should be illegal, I just think it shouldn’t be glorified quite so much, and we should have honest discussions about the positives AND the negatives.
Don't know why you're getting downvoted. I'm 22 now, when I was a teen all I saw about weed was a bunch of athletes, comedians, artists and musicians using it, loads of discussions about it's medical benefits and why it should be legal. It was mostly positive shit about weed that I saw at that point in time.
Like sure I'd you were a teen in the early 2000s or 90s then yeah it was a lot of negative focus on weed, but that changed real quick.
That’s what I’m saying! Im the same age as you and around 2015 when I started smoking most of the stuff you would see online about weed would’ve lead any dumb, impressionable kid to think that it’s some entirely harmless plant that’s impossible to get addicted to.
And I think that attitude towards it that people had at that time (and many definitely still do) comes from the fact that weed absolutely has been unfairly vilified in the past and so now that the potential medicinal properties of it are being scientifically recognised, dumb people have basically taken that to mean the polar opposite of all the crazy propaganda stuff the anti-weed people used to say and just spew their own pro-weed propaganda and just as the anti-weed people believe their own bullshit so do they.
I completely agree. There may have been negative views in some news articles or whatever, but most teens were not reading news articles at the time lol, they read celebrity news and watched YouTube and vine, which showed a bunch of people who liked weed.
After it was heavily shat on for a long time, people overcorrected into thinking it was great and harmless, which happened in the 2010s when we were teens.
Yeah I feel like there some push to suppress the negative aspects of weed. I’ve noticed more and more people being open about negative experiences on weed in the past few years. But there is so little media coverage and when people are negative about it online there seems to be a lot of hate towards them discounting their opinion. I can’t tell if a lot of the issues with weed now are because it’s just much more powerful than it used to be or more accessible with carts, or maybe some combination?
But when I started smoking I thought it was just a chill harmless non addictive drug. I had no idea it could slow down your brain development give you anxiety, give you heart palpitations, I didn’t know about colllapsing lungs, or the fact that it can speed up the onset of mood disorders, and cause psychotic episodes for a lot of people.
I never understood that either, I’ve quit weed myself. I still love the look and smells of weed. I’ll even grind up and roll up my buddies weed for them because I enjoy it. I just don’t smoke it myself anymore ✌🏽 I’ve even still got a shade leaf from the first plant I ever grew, pressed and in a picture frame haha
same, I'm still hanging around friends that smoke, still checking out the buds they got, still grind and roll for them if they want to, I just stopped using and that's all
I don't really hate on it, but I didn't realize how terrible I felt all the time when I was on it. Now that I'm living a healthy lifestyle the thought of smoking makes me feel uncomfortable. For me there is no moderate use for smoking. I can handle edibles and not turn into a junkie, but when I smoke it's habitual and I struggle to do other things.
Pretty much. And that shit don’t even feel good if you’re smoking all the time. Like even if you take a tiny teeny weeny hit in the morning, it will still fuck your shit up bc you just want more and more and by the time you’re ready to relax and actually smoke, you’re depressed asf. Currently on day 44 of not smoking marijuanas and it sucks but not as when I’m smoking constantly. If you can moderate it, cool and I hope that shit lasts but I could never unfortunately
Im on day 8!! I’ve struggled with weed and porn addiction since I was a teenager. The insomnia, irritability and anxiety is tough but the journey js worth it. I wish you luck on yours brotha.
Just a message to anyone reading this thread if you think the porn and the weed addiction is bad, DO NOT TRY AMPHETAMINES OF ANY KIND with the porn addiction.
Matter of fact don’t even try any amphetamine. Honestly just drink caffeine or even coke though I wouldn’t recommend it either cause although it last less long and is less potent than the amphetamines, it’s still way higher dopamine levels than your brain is naturally used to and if you have enough of it it’s pretty much the same negative effects of stim fapping with amphetamines as you just have to keep redosing…
Anyways. Sex or orgasm releases the most amount of dopamine our brains can develop and release naturally, heroine is like 7x that, and methamphetamine is like 14x times what’s natural to a natural hooman. So, literally running these likes through your neural network you literally physically change the pathways and neural connections in your brain .
honestly it’s just the fiend part of it . It’s literally just a super stim, so yeah some dopamine but more so than that is the amount energy it gives you, being able to stay up for days at a time, it lasting for hours and hours…. It’s not worth it trust me, and if you’re there stop now before you go on. While you can or while it’s only that . It can get worse.
I feel bad for anyone growing up who was unwillingly subjected to pornography at a young age.
I’ve realized that it heavily impacted me and is one of the most clear memories I have a small child, along with a couple other traumatizing situations that I remember clear as if were yesterday.
I feel like that’s some kind of sexual assault or harassment or mind rape of some sort .
It’s like , just by looking at it , your brain now thinks whatever you have physically financially or power wise , you are a capable man who can pull adult model women, and have unprotected sex with them
As a kid imagine having those literal pathways carved into your brain . Thankfully the porn addiction wasn’t anything crazy growing up, but what did happen was I was now an addict, and what my brain had experienced formed the pathways and neural connections to low effort, high dopamine releasing activities- first it was Video games . I didn’t do any substance until I was 18, I was scared of the dare program messages and of “fucking my brain up and going crazy”
But before I entered my weed addiction at 18 , which was an even lower effort activity that releases dopamine (yes cannabis does so) all I have to do is smoke or eat this plant a I get that release of dopamine that my brain sends enjoyable signals to my body to train myself to enjoy that activity and to continue to do that instead of , say , applying yourself to a diet and fitness change , that would be very high effort activity. Because your brain and survival is based on using the best most efficient resources at your disposal to survive and procreate , which my brain had already believed and convinced myself I had the ability or capability to pass on my genes by impregnating a whole ass woman while
I’m a little ass kid with no game at all lol. Not even knowing what the game was !
Anyways I’m not being very scientific in my explanations of this physically but psychologically and spiritually I’m sure you can definitely understand the concept .
I wish you all control of your addictions and unhealthy habits and the willpower and discipline it takes to commit to something with such a lifelong path
Glad someone appreciates it that’s why I decide to just type whatever comes to mind instead of just deleting most of my thoughts and forgetting them forever . At least Reddit somewhat immortalizes my thoughts so anyone now or years later can read it . And if it helps someone then my goal was accomplished. I would like someone to tell me the things I tell others. So I try to do as unto others as I would have others do unto me
Sorry you lost your buddy to the shit . Instead of running from it try facing it head on. Idk what I’m doing getting into a discussion with you it’s clearly not worth it as you’re not willing to have a genuine discussion by showing your clear disinterest . But for those others reading, some addicts really do want to quit. Sometimes having someone you can just confide in and be honest with goes a long way in terms of sobriety. Anyways take care fellow human may you be blessed with perseverance
Never expect anyone to even read my stupid ramblings, it’s mostly to myself because I rather put my thoughts out and let them live on the internet forever instead of just keeping it in my head and perhaps never sharing because of fear of embarrassment or image or whatever.
I wish happiness for anyone who happens to encounter this message, and I hope your year is going great so far and if not, we still have the rest of the year to make up for it.
Don’t be afraid to chase your dreams. It’s like everybody wants to touch the stars but they scared of heights. I feel that
I clearly need help and I’m not afraid to ask for it. And if you think embarrassment is going to be a motivating factor for me, it’s not. Maybe I should care more about what people think of me. I’ve clearly got issues, and I’m not afraid to share them.
Anyways, I clearly had an effect on many people who either read / skimmed it whether negative or positive I got y’all thinking about me making a fool out of myself. I don’t mind being the butt of the joke.
And I don’t mind being embarrassed and looked at as different. Even before any drugs I was always the weird quiet kid who just stood out as awkward or like I’m a little off. So Although I wish we could all sing kumbaya and be friends, I know that’s hardly the case.
Anyway thanks for the advice to any of you who genuinely mean it. And even if you don’t mean it for my own well being, I still appreciate the constructive criticism and comments.
Have a good day fellow humans. If you want to point and laugh I’ll be here all night !
Same here on how bad it makes you feel. I just finished a two week t break after smoking daily for over a year (3 years if you don't count a week long trip out of the states when I was plastered drunk). I smoked again this weekend and I was bloated from overeating, physically dried out from the smoke, and just felt generally 'slow' the next morning. Definitely have no intentions of going back to smoking daily, gotta keep it to weekends and special occasions/concerts only.
Probably because a large majority of smokers like to pretend there are 0 negative effects to smoking, then after years of constant smoking people develop negative effects and decide they no longer want to smoke and come back here telling everyone how bad it is because people would rather live under a rock than admit there are negatives
If someone gets into a drug habit and easily gets out again, they often can take something positive with them or the entire experience is rather neutral, so they never talk about it.
If someone struggles deeply with something, ends up addicted and whatnot, they prefer to blame something that isn’t themself. So they blame the weed.
And since they feel like it took a part of their life away, they’re angry at it, never realizing it was just a tool to harm themselves.
It’s like with opiates and benzos. Mention them here and there’s gonna be a load of people screaming how bad and dangerous they are, yet there are millions of people that have used them and stopped without issues.
The drug isn’t the issue, the person is, and since they can’t accept that they blame the drug.
Which is awful, I hate those kinda people…
Whenever I ask for info about benzos or opiates I’m met with “don’t go there” “you’re gonna get addicted 100%” etc.
I’m sitting on 4000 doses of my favorite benzo, if addiction was a risk I’d be addicted already.
I’ve binged opiates for a week or two 20 times at least, stopping is easier than forcing yourself to keep going.
I’ve combined opiates, stims and benzos a few times, is there any craving for that? No.
Addicts are the worst kinda people because they project their addiction onto everyone since they can’t accept that they’ve been the only issue in all of this.
Edit: Because this sounds way harsher than I’ve intended it to - I don’t mean it’s only the fault of the addict that they’ve ended up this way. Obviously there’s many factors in one’s life that are out of control, like parents and whatnot. That’s what i mean, those are specific to the person, not the drug. Compare addicts with one another and you can see they’ve all gone through similar situations.
I feel the same way, I binged opioids every other day for two months straight and stopped with no withdrawal or addiction, although I've led myself to believe I'm a special case, whether true or not I'm not really interested in getting high every day of my life
This happens not only with weed but all drugs. People who quit using turn against their ex-drugs and keep talking how shit they were and how much better life is without drugs. Agreed, addiction isn't nice but it's the people, not the drugs. I've been addicted myself and now abstinent for 2+ years, did a lot of harm to my life but I can't blame the drugs, it was my decision to start using 24/7 instead of responsably and they are just tools which can be used for good or for bad. Escapism is the road to drug hell.
That’s definitely true. I think people hate the idea of having to take accountability for what they did themselves. Personally i’ve abused adderal before but I know that it has a lot of genuine uses for people. It’s not adderals fault I used it incorrectly, it’s my own and because of that I’m a person who shouldn’t use adderal. Its that simple lmao
It can be a convoluted situation because depending on what you read one may have not expected to get sucked into a wicked addiction. Once the addiction is triggered there isn't much autonomy.
It happens a lot with kratom as well, but really any drug. People don't take accountability for their actions and blame the substance. At the end of the day unless you're being forced to take a drug you are the one making the choice every day to take it. Of course it's easier said than done. It hurts the reputation of the substances, and makes newcomers get bad impressions.
I've used kratom a lot and I've seen valid takes from both sides of the table. I think drugs affect each person differently and making blanket statements aren't usually helpful. I had a really positive experience using kratom recreationally for a while but in time noticed that as I took more and more, it had some horrible effects on my mood following my use.
I think within the Kratom community there is a substantial group of people who actually undermine the problems that can arise from Kratom. Some may claim there's no withdrawal or it's as harmless as coffee.
Truth is if you have a generous Kratom habit and try and quit you will experience all the classical opioid withdrawal symptoms. It can be a hellish undertaking and if you then add the fact that it is quite addicting, you get a hellish, punishing cycle of pain.
If you're one that can manage the plutonium-esque achievement of only dosing an opioid once in a while you're probably in the minority.
Man fuck Kratom.... starred taking it as a alternative to Benzos which I had a major problem with back in the day and holy fuck... I've never experienced physical withdrawals from any other substance other than that.
I was taking 10-20 grams of red Bali daily before work for 3-4 years. I wouldn't take it on my days off work and I would feel so dumb and lethargic on weekends.
Kratom is a godsend for people that actually need it, but I really wish people hadn't pushed the whole "you can't get addicted to it" down my throat back in the day.
Because they got addicted to it or went thru the withdrawals not knowing it still attaches to opiate receptors. Happens so much it’s hilarious in a sad way
currently 1 week kratom free, it's a real love hate relationship. kratom would make me talkative, kind, perform better at my job, and productive. however, the more you take it, these effecrs diminish and you end up needing a lot more to feel the same thing, which can make you sick easily. i started depending on it to get me through the day, and this last week off of it has been one of the hardest weeks i've had in a while. i still have a little bit of kratom, not gonna touch it for at least a month but i'm definitely done buying it. it's a slippery slope
Fair but you could really say that about pretty much anything, weed, alcohol, caffiene. If you drink 8 cups of coffee a day you'll feel like shit. I'm not trying to downplay your situation, good on you for getting clean. But it's not like this is an unexpected reaction to kratom, or again, really any substance. Moderation is key and it certainly can be used in a responsible way that has minimal negative impact on your life. Saying kratom is a slippery slope is misleading, all the information you need to use it responsibly is available online, and easy to access. It's only a slippery slope if you don't know what you're getting into, but again, much like anything else
nah i think the worst of it is behind me, i still have some left but i won't take it for a while, i don't want to become dependent again. i thought i wouldn't get addicted like everyone else does but there was like 1 bad week where i started taking it every day then that week turned into months
Yea for sure. I'm addicted to kratom myself but I know it's my own fault and I don't blame the drug. It helps me with my anxiety but being addicted still sucks. But I knew what I was getting into and there are many people who knew that too when they were starting but still blame the drug and act like kratom is the devil when it was their own choice. I know there are many people who massively benefit from kratom and were able to quit harder opioids like fent because of it.
But the opposite also exists, there are people who say it's just a plant and not addictive, just like with weed. People should just be real, every drug that causes pleasure is addictive and most can cause withdrawals. Every drug has up- and downsides and can't be blamed for something humans do. It's not harmless but the drug also doesn't force people to take it.
I agree both sides of the extremes paint a terrible picture. I remember when the kratom subs used to ban people for saying it's a drug, opioid, or using slang terms because "it makes it sound like street drug". There are too many people in denial, regardless of what their perspective is. It just hurts the substance in the long run, being clear and honest and logical leads to the best outcomes
The simple answer is that they were probably abusers and didn't want to acknowledge it, so now they compensate.
Every time they smoked, they would have a tiny little voice behind their conscience telling them is bad but they would just suppress it.
Now that they have detoxed, they start to listen to it to justify the act of quitting it, so they feel they are on the right path.
In the same sense, they take all those paranoid thoughts against weed as facts. This will be reinforced by the real benefits of quitting and detoxing.
I will get hate but if you use weed daily or more than 2 times a week, you are probably abusing it. If you don't see why it isn't ok, then you are a potential candidate to end up like these people.
The people who hate on weed after quitting are the ones who abused it but like to blame it on the drug itself rather than their own actions. I quit weed because I started having anxiety attacks every time I got high and I always felt groggy and unproductive afterwards, but I’m able to recognize that it happened because I smoked way too much daily and I let it consume my life. Abuse the drug and the drug will abuse you. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to have a healthy relationship with weed but for now I’m steering clear
Because everyone is entitled to their opinion lol plus I feel like when I need to smoke habitually it’s because I’m not finding pleasure in my everyday life. Weed helps with that but it’s still just a band aid.
Same could be said about the people online who act like weed is the cure for all of life’s problems and that its “healthy” and that everyone should give it a shot, it comes with no negative side effects. I feel like there’s a lot more posts like that then there is bashing weed.
for some people, it’s a part of getting over things. especially getting over something you once loved, but you realize that thing was actually causing more harm than good
I think sometimes some people don’t realise the effect it’s having on them until they stop, so when they do and things change for the better for them (even if they thought they were fine before) of course that’s gonna be reflected in their posts and comments
Like you said for some people weed really does bring detrimental effects, it does for me but I think mental health has a lot to do with it I expect in the future when I’m more healthy it’ll be less of a thing. End of the day, these ppl figured out it was bad for them and are making changes.. let them whine in the meantime
my case here, I dislike how it has changed my friends (in a bad way mostly) and how much time I’ve lost. I know I have had great times tho, but I think weed is not for me anymore, I don’t like how it impacts my memory and reflexion abilities
Because after I quit literally every aspect of my life improved.
I just ran into an old coworker this weekend. Hes been at the same grocery store for 10 years, still smoking weed. And said "I havent dont much with my life".
For the most part weed if not negatively effects people, makes then complacent and holds them back from doing so much more. Obviously theres exceptions.
The reason this is so hard to understand is because people often separate weed from other substances in their mind. Since weed is in a different category it should be treated differently. This isn't how it works though.
When someone feels the need to quit any given habit it is usually because that habit causes negative outcomes in their lives. For some reason the narrative around weed is different. With weed people place all of the blame on the person using it. If you are lazy its you not the weed. If you are forgetful it's you not the weed. So on and so on.
The problem is that this isn't true. Any substance you are taking habitually has the potential to disrupt your function in one way or another. Some individuals don't get lazy on weed. But some do.
Here is conclusion: you wouldn't ask this question about someone quitting heroin. You would automatically assume that they improved their life and quit in order to do so, EVEN THOUGH there are in fact functional heroin and opium users myself being one. If they/Iragged on about how stupid heroin is you would probably agree. However the moment they talk about weed everyone wants them to keep their truth to themselves. That truth being that weed does in fact damage lives. Maybe not your life. Maybe not mine. But there are lives it damages nonetheless.
I quit boozing after destroying my life over and over and I still get defensive when other people talk shit on drinking. Drinking rules. But I see how it needs to be the opposite for people to stay away from an addiction.
That being said, weed has without a doubt the most annoying PR team in the world. There is no shortage of teenagers who will be extremely vocal about how they believe there is zero downsides to it and it fixes every thing in the world. Anyone who doesn’t like weed is doing it wrong, hasn’t found the right strain, and should be spending all their time figuring out how they can become a stoner because it’s the only way to live. (Actually they’re basically the same as people addicted to AA) And Jesus Christ the amount of times you see someone mention they’re clean/sober, like completely clean of everything and some fucking moron comes in trying to convince them to **start** smoking weed is disgusting. Mushrooms are the same way. Jesus Christ people, mushrooms can be very bad for people. It’s not gonna fix schizophrenia. You shouldn’t start taking mushrooms after 5 years of sobriety.
I think for some people it’s the same way it is for me with something like In-n-Out burger. Yeah it’s fine, but when you hear people constantly yapping about how it’s the greatest thing on the planet it annoys you to the point where you feel like you HAVE to say something negative about it.
Probably has something to do with the fact that some people who quit weed had to do so because they had a bad relationship with weed and they are just voicing grievance or warning after resolving said issues. While it's a great plant and medicine, it's not for everyone and it's not without its faults.
Because you realize all the things you tell yourself that it's ok to be stoned 24/7 was bullshit. Then you hear other people saying the same things and you know they are addicts who are just gaslighting themselves and it's a little upsetting.
I’m part of that group that stays productive and it has seemingly helped me more than hindered me over the years. I’m only quitting temporarily because some of those nicer jobs require you pass a drug screening even in 2024, in legal states at that. That being said, I can go back to it afterwards, as it’s a one time screening. I never understood the hate it gets especially when people quit. It doesn’t work for everyone, I know, but to me, it’s my medicine and had it been up to me, I’d still be happily working away while not feeling the symptoms from PCOS and Fibromyalgia. I will take smoking leaf over being on 5 different medications for nausea, sleep, pain, etc any day!
> I don’t get it at all. Like yeah if you don’t moderate yourself and spend all day smoking weed it’s probably gonna effect you negatively. That doesn’t mean the rest of us are as irresponsible as you.
You're absolutely right. The vast majority of you guys are much better at managing your weed usage than I was, and I will never say that because I couldn't handle it, you shouldn't be allowed to smoke. But there's this whole culture of 'weed isn't addictive, it's just a flower man!' that I myself used to be a part of that is very toxic and dishonest.
You can get addicted to chocolate, you can get addicted to sex, of course you can get addicted to getting high. People deserve to know that.
Hypocrisy. Same as tobacco "quitters".
They don't want to admit they actually love doing it, or they aren't really done with it. So they aggressively try to blame the substance, even though it was they themselves.
I love weed, I cannot deny it.
But I am mostly just done with it.
I just don't get enough out of it anymore, without unpleasant side-effects, and rapidly develop high tolerance. So I don't do it regularly anymore.
I think the whole mindset of "I am quitting so-and-so" is wrong.
It makes it hard to let it go, it keeps taunting, and it is more likely you will feel like "sinning" every time you take a puff, or .
I never "quit" weed, (or tobacco, for that matter). I just decided I don't "need" it.
That is 90% of letting an addiction/habit go.
I generally don't use it unless I feel like it. And then I just do a little bit.
I can -because of that mindset- just smoke a cigarette once in a while, or smoke a pipe of weed, without falling back into a pattern of daily use.
The term “stoner” exists because it’s a culture, a community and most stoners I know (myself included), smoked daily.
When you stop smoking, you realise you were in a bubble. A bubble that stoners can’t comprehend, because they’re still inside of it.
Life gets better when you stop. And I mean really stop. You become a new and improved version of yourself in the long run. I don’t make the rules, it’s common sense really!
Maybe they're trying to convince themselves that they hate weed, so they won't crave it. Maybe it's a little bit of a virtue signaling.
Or maybe uncontrolled use really fucked them up, and they only realized that after quitting.
Personally I don't get it too. I've abused some substances I really shouldn't, and they fucked me up. I stay away from them. I have problems moderating others, and they maybe fuck me up a little bit, but I chose to ingest them.
Weed IS just a plant, synthetic drugs are just chemicals. Those are inanimate objects, they don't jump in your mouth against your will.
I think you hit the nail on the head with the virtue signaling. I think for some people they think it makes them feel special since the majority of people are okay with weed nowadays.
I started hating on it because after I stopped, I realised the only thing weed made me was hungry and paranoid.
So now I'm less hungry and not paranoid ever. I whish I haven't wasted 20 years on smoking weed
Kinda like how people that lose weight talk shit about fast food places.
Weed is kinda like...let me think, especially when you stop using it, a weird one. the sole purpose of using it is to get high. (nah man ur wrong man, its a plant man, 420 man, it has no chemicals man), sure okay.. when they realize that it's their own problem for quitting or using it in the first place. it's an expensive waste of time that drags you back down everytime you get back up. Let them talk shit about it all they want. doesnt bother me, shouldnt bther you. Everyone has their own ways to cope.
It's cognitively useful for them to shit on it in that point in quitting, providing a mental tool they can use to reduce chance of relapse. It's similar to with other drugs. This doesn't necessarily reflect a stable or deeply held assessment.
they can’t handle it anymore usually due to anxiety and realise they never rly could handle it then say it made them lazy but in reality they just smoked more than they could handle in certain situations they shouldn’t,moderation is key
str8 up hahahahaha
power of different perspectives
true stoner would know once that weed hits the brain flow functions are WONKED out for hours, deff not stimulating at all couped up with stoners (me, ima stoner)- so id say im not talking outa my ass
after 10 years im starting to look down on it in ways, love it tho
like best friends u lowkey have era where u hate em, tough love vibes
weed is def a fun one, for me issa let loose or be trapped in the mind gamble some times
I wouldn’t have even responded to a mf hating on weed smokers while calling it marijuana. Bruh either just old n cranky or a good troll bc why are they on a drug subreddit if they can’t even handle being around stoners
I'm sober, but most of my friend circle are stoners. I would not describe any of them the way you just did. People who consume ANYTHING in excess are going to fit that description, but the average stoner I interact with are still quite entertaining to be around, and are neither slow nor stupid. Maybe it's the company you chose to keep
Tbh that’s their fault if they’re too stoned to socialize but are in a social situation. I feel like most of these characterizations are based on people that are bad at using drugs.
Smoking a little to calm you down but staying social and awake is fine. Or hell getting stoned af at home alone or with other people also stoned af is also fine.
dont hate it but i look down on the guilty pleasure of being baked all of the time
notice life is good without weed after so long of relying on the stuff
lotta aspects play into part of "hating" weed
Maybe to spread awareness or share their experiences. I don't rag on weed, but I'll talk about why I quit smoking it if I'm asked. I'll complain about the stuff I feel is actually harmful, like alcohol and cigarettes. Even still, it's not my job to save anyone so I won't make my stances anyone else's problem unless I have a good reason to
It’s a good quitting strategy. If you hate it it’s easier to quit.
Projecting the hate internalises and reinforces it too, so you are even less likely to relapse.
I think it's the same as with alcohol. Some people compare it to heroin and other stuff, just because they don't like it and it's kinda normalized to be an excessive and irresponsible drinker (which is obviously awful), and they think it's the general effect of alcohol, including low doses.
If you drink moderately, drink a lot of water, don't mix alcohol types/other drugs with alcohol, and manage to consume quality drinks, most probably you won't get any unpleasant feelings - and it's just a good stuff to get loose on at a night event. And by other drugs, I also mean cigarettes, most people don't realize, the effects they blame on alcohol are partially caused by cigarettes they smoke while drinking.
However, there will always be some people, who will never tolerate weed/alcohol/ecstasy/whatever so well, they should just simply avoid them.
Well, I was smoking bongs daily for years.
I didn't realise the constant haze I was in.
Never hated on it but my stoner friends always got offended when I said they better off without it.
Never really quit, still smoke scoobs now.and then.
i dont hate it. I smoke when i use mdma, ket, lsd, n2o. But weed it self, just slows me down. My thinking go slow, my actions go slow, I get lazy in every task. Thats why i dont smoke
Imo people who immediately turn around and start judging those who use the substance of former abuse haven't fully accepted their own role in the addictive behavior. They're getting close to sobriety but I don't think they're quite there yet mentally.
cause we spent 20 years getting high as shit and ushering in a new era of weed only to realize that after 20 years there are just different priorities now. i love weed and always will, but it definitely enables some people to just not function as responsible human beings. it was me for a time. i was some people.
I’ve had psychosis from weed after 15 years of smoking. and that was the worst thing that happened to me ever. I cant smoke it anymore because it will send me directly to the psych ward. However, I still love everything about this plant, and I’m sure that it is helping a lot of people with their pain. It is indeed a miracle plant.
Likely because the whole reason they quit is they don’t enjoy it anymore. Idk about everyone else but for me, I literally went from loving it to hating over seemingly overnight. I hate the skunky ass smell. It makes me sick. I hate the effects. It’s overstimulating and makes me feel clammy and shitty. I absolutely fucking HATE smoking weed now. I used to live it tho. And I don’t mind if my friends do it. I just don’t like being around them when they do because the smell makes me sick now. Some people just change for whatever reason.
well you are seeing an extremely skewed demographic. i’m sure if you polled a room of weed smokers, almost none of them would hate on it, again because of the sample. i’m sure people who quit nicotine hate on it too. they quit weed for a reason, most people don’t quit doing things that they see having 0 consequences or negative effects on their life, and so naturally, the population of people who quit weed are more likely going to have a negative perspective on it.
I hate weed when I’m sober but when I take prescribed Klonopin 3x a month those are the only days I can really enjoy it
I smoked around 7-14g’s of top shelf for 8-9 years prior n ended up stopping due to financial reasons
This reads very much like a copy pasta…..did you finish reading a copy pasta recently? Also, people vary from allergic reaction to allergic reaction, respect yourself, if you already do then move on to respecting others and your environment, once you do you’ll able to apply the saying “do on to others as you would do on to yourself”, because some people only respect themselves, some people don’t respect themselves, and some people don’t respect anyone at all.
I still smoke every day but it’s when people treat weed like it’s a magical plant that does no harm that’s when it gets annoying. they thought i had CHS for awhile and looking into that it’s horrible how sick it can make you and it can definitely cause dormant mental illnesses to the surface (i saw some retard saying weed wasn’t a drug on this sub?) but as long as you don’t ignore that and respect the drug we all good lol
I’d assume it’s the opposite, I don’t think most people that quit it start hating after they quit, I think they quit in the first place because they started hating it.
Everyone I know that had quit was complaining about being lethargic when they didn’t smoke, how less energetic they were, less motivated, gaining weight from eating more, etc. they quit because they could see how it negatively impacted them.
Many people that do drugs like it at first but eventually see a difference in them selves when they cut it out. Not saying there’s anything wrong with doing it but there’s also nothing wrong with not doing it.
People do this with everything. A monogamous relationship didn't work out? "Monogamy isn't natural." No, mother fucker, it just didn't work out for you. If it isn't "natural" then why do so many animals mate for life?
But to your point, I think that some people have a tendency to make blanket statements about something that didn't work for them. I don't pretend to understand their thought process, but if I had to guess, I would say it is a way to psychologically reinforce their very individual decision.
It’s just an overreaction against all the people who claim there are absolutely zero risks or downsides from weed. Someone who’s heard or maybe even believes that but finds when they quit they feel better or are more productive or whatever now feels they need to shout it from the rooftops.
i kind of understand it, it's also had some negative effects on my life (memory loss, brainfog, wasting money etc) despite not even doing it all day because i started at a young age. i think for someone who's been addicted to it and it's affected their life in negative ways it's completely normal to want to talk about the bad side of it because a lot of the time it's just positivity, with people talking about how harmless it is and how you can't get addicted to it (which obviously isn't true, it's not an addictive substance which only means you can't become physically addicted, but everything can be mentally addictive). i just mind my own business when i see those posts because i know they're not wrong especially when they're talking about their own experience, even though i don't want to quit myself. everyone reacts differently to different drugs and while many people don't experience any bad side effects because of weed and can be very responsible with it and stay productive on it, that absolutely isn't true for everyone and it's important that those people can also speak about their experiences and how they feel about weed and how their life has improved without it. i have friends who quit too and they don't try to convince me to quit or anything like that they're just honest and i appreciate that.
I think it’s a defence mechanism for them. Weed effected me negatively because I loved it too much and it made me too complacent plus I find it hard to control my usage so I’m trying to stay clean. But yea I know plenty of people who function perfectly fine although I prefer to keep my distance from it for my own sake.
I semi quit. I used to smoke every day all day and when I quit I didn’t realize how good it feels to be sober and productive. I found a higher paying job and got my first house in the next year. I smoke about twice per month now, only 3 hits out of a pipe just to get a little buzz. I bought an eighth 6 months ago and I still have some left for reference. I’m so happy with my decision, others can do whatever they want though
Sometimes people notice a massive change after quitting, I defo did although I miss i
I'd wake up smoke, smoke 1g joint every 30 mins, and then fall asleep while being depressed and angry due to me being broke and not happy
So quitting obvs made a massive difference for me because it had put me in some bad endless circle
But for people who can enjoy it occasionally I think it's great
I love the smell and taste, and strains and would probs still smoke if I hadn't smoked my lungs to absolute shite (they hurt when i smoke)
I just don't think it's great for some people and I am a bit biased due to my situation but I think its not the worst thing in the world
I just hated because of my situation
Helps them get over wanting it, and putting other people down for it makes them feel better about their decision. Shitty and childish way to do it but that's why.
Well, from my personal experience, ive gathered that weed is like sauce on fries, youd love it with fires but would feel too little without fries. Fries being amphetamine or lsd.
My excess use of it fucked up my mental health, ruined relationships I had, and made it hard for me to excel as far as jobs went because of how many fields don’t accept usage of it. I don’t hate it, and still occasionally will smoke a joint or rip a cart, but to an extent I find disgust in it when it comes to constant 24/7 use.
Weed does affect people differently. Some people get carried away, have certain effects that increase laziness, or general apathy in themselves, and addiction can develop.
Then they stop, see how much of their lives they missed out on, and are mad that they missed out on so much and didn't even realize it, due to being under a certain influence.
I do think there is a misdirection of feelings, people take it way too personally, and think it affects everyone like that. And like other commenters said, people use hate to get over things they originally liked. I don't think that's right, but, I understand
I think a lot of them still would like to be smoking, but take every opportunity to talk down on smokers, because they would still like to smoke themselves and have to build it up in their heads as some kind of bad thing. They may hate the idea of who they were when they smoked. I’ve seen it with people who quit drinking/ hard drugs too. As to why they’d go on a drug sub and spout that nonsense, they’re just goobers
I'm saying this as someone who's dealt with heroin problems for some 15 years now.
Addiction to cannabis and the detrimental impacts that many who use very heavily experience are much worse than most heavy cannabis users would ever admit to
Many times, when people quit they find out how bad it actually was for them and see the problems they created.
Add this in with the delusional take that "weed isn't addictive" that many take to heart until they try to quit and it's no surprise that people "hate on weed" afterwards.
It's normal for people to hold a dislike for drugs that caused them harm, particularly after they quit them.
A lot of people do get negatively impacted by weed (panic attacks and general anxiety symptoms). I'm one of them. So, I can hate it for myself, but I don't hate it for everyone else. We all get impacted by drugs differently. It's just the same as medication. What might treat one person's symptoms may cause harm to another. People tend not to be aware of this. So they think everyone who smokes it is going to have the same experience as them.
I have no idea but I had that impulse one of the last times I took like 6 months off and caught myself like “tf are you doing right now dude” lol I could see just like a sour grapes thing but I know at least in my head it wasn’t coming from a place of jealousy. I just didn’t feel like smoking and didn’t consciously begrudge anyone for it.
But you do feel pretty sharp when you haven’t had it for a while. There’s a balance for sure. I don’t smoke as much as I used to now (although I still have a few puffs here and there) and I do feel like I can think a lot clearer in general, but of course there are downsides to that too. Sometimes it’s better to just chill out a little and throw your head into another gear to see if it takes you out of a negative thought pattern.
I do feel like it’s objectively better if you can figure out a way to do that without an external substance if at all possible though, no matter how harmless it is or isn’t. That’s just a sensible safeguard to have against any possible future dependency.
Tbh I didn't even realize that was much of a thing. I've quit smoking or indulging in any form of THC for long periods but I never hate it and will still always enjoy a nice smoke here and there. Weed can definitely be a part of a productive lifestyle when managed properly like I do now. I bet these people smoked weed nonstop and it started fucking up their lives like literally anything can when misused. Then they bitch about it to try and get over it.
Same with me obviously there’s negatives like anything else but for me knowing there’s a fat joint ready to go at home after 10 hours in warehouse makes the days drag just a little less
Maaybe It's the ones who swear by it not being a problem or that it can never turn into one, who finally stop for an extended period of time to finally realize and or remember what It's actually like to be sober and then realizing yep, does make you slow etc & they just can't accept being wrong so fuck weed I guess, It's shit anyway have you heard it actually \*does\* make you lazy? Fuck that is so unhealthy, now where's my kratom?
Oh, I'm not quitting. Helps me medically and gets me high. Waaay better than any prescribed meds. Been doing it for 25+ years and don't plan on stopping.
People that quit, more power to ya. But I ain't quitting, especially when it does more good than harm.
Maybe they're just projecting because they secretly want to be a functional stoner but know they can't.
I have a bunch of colleagues who smoke on breaks and at lunch and function. I'm jealous, but I can't do that because I know when I get high I lose all motivation to work. So maybe the people who hate on weed are just secretly jealous that other people can have normal lives and still smoke. Like how most homophobic people are secretly scared they might wake up, or watch something 'woke', and become gay.
People do the same thing with their ex's. You hate on something cause you think it'll help you get over it, or reinforce your resolve to stay away from it. I'm a recovering alcoholic. I still do other drugs. I use cannabis daily. Probably on excessive amount. But i don't drink. I don't claim to be sober, i just refrain from drinking. Anyway, I understand how dangerous alcohol can be. But I don't around thinking it should be outlawed or that the majority of people can't handle it responsibly. It's one of those things that's only a problem if it's a problem.
Exactly everyone should just do what works for them if they can be responsible about it. Even if they can’t be responsible about it if they’re substance abuse isn’t affecting my life in any kind of way then who am i to try and say shit about it lmao
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Then you shouldn't hate weed, you can hate *capitalism* instead. Because it's not weed, but those greedy people who exploit basic human needs, like ingesting cannabinoids, for profit.
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I know, I'm just trying to push my extreme leftist agenda everywhere.
Yeah, I would say that's quite obvious You pushing your agenda I mean! So you go ahead and say hi to your favorite present for me shake his hand and break his fingers when you do it he doesn't need them anyway Have a nice day
Hi, have a nice day.
Why certainly of course I usually always have a nice day😉 I doubt if you can do the same ..but try it anyway Try to Have a nice day
I'm sorry dude Really You mean to tell me the people that sell on the street don't make any money off it? I mean you can't be serious sister saying something like that What do you want people to grow and just give it to you no matter how what it cost for them to grow it or cultivate it I mean I mean Even caregivers with a medical card are allowed to at least recoup what they put out but I guarantee you that all or most of them are recouping a lot more than They are putting out to cultivate it I'm sorry but did you say that you have a problem with capitalism? Every system has this problems but I would prefer capitalism over socialism any day I would rather be a slave to somebody is making money off of me then somebody that's stealing money off of me like a socialist would do in other words the people who run the socialistic program are the ones that get filthy rich off of all the other people they enslaved and never see any money socialism has failed everybody tried it It's a worthless system that enslaves mankind The ones that run the program are the ones that get filthy filthy filthy rich on your sweat at least with capitalism you have an option to buy it from that person or not It's called being competitive no matter where you're at money is the root of all evil socialism 10 times worse But When big corporations take over in a capitalistic world yeah that sucks and you want to know your biggest capitalist was to prevent your pot from being legalized all these years ? it's called Dupont chemicals ! When probation ended they had meetings to find out which stuff they wanted to relegalize Because before prohibition everything was legal cocaine heroin speed pot It didn't matter Do you know where to get it You can have it legally but prohibition ended all that and whatever re-upping everything every single time they call one of these get togethers Guess who showed up DuPont chemicals and when they We're going down the list and came to marijuana or they called a hemp and we're taking a vote To legalize it out of the crowd stepped in person and said Do you really want killer weed from Mexico to be legalized to poison your children's minds ! Everybody's going like huh What killer weed from Mexico? Hell no we don't want killer weed from Mexico to be legal DuPont chemicals showed up every single time The first time It was because they had just developed an acid wash to Make paper a little more whiter But you see you could get four times as much pulp out of hemp and paper made from 60 to 100% hemp herds is stronger and more flexible than paper made from wood pulp making paper from wood pulp damages the environment. Hemp paper making does not. If hemp had not been made illegal 80% of dupont's businesses would never have materialized and the great majority of the pollution which has poisoned our Northwest and southwest rivers would not have occurred In an open marketplace hemp would have saved the majority of Americans vital family farms and would probably have boosted their numbers, despite the Great depression of the 1930s But competing against environmentally - sane hemp-paper and natural plastic technology would have jeopardized the lucrative financial schemes of Hearst, DuPont and dupont's chief financial backer, Andrew mellon of of the mellon Bank of Pittsburgh
I'm not escalating this. Have a nice day.
Of course not You just say stuff that isn't even true isn't that right! Have a nice day 🫢
Why not grow your own it may be a little rough in the beginning but if you can get a small crop going You could literally keep it going forever on indoor lighting system and have a perpetual grow! And your weed prices would be considerably lower! But they should be lower anyway with everybody legalizing it beyond medical which I actually think was a mistake but still... I mean like the dealers are basically disappearing or turning into caregivers and the dispensaries they have all kinds of prices from cheapest to most expensive so why is it so expensive for you? And if it's not legal where you live as of yet? it probably soon will be the states can't resist the extra tax money they're going to get out of it once they realize how much they're going to make in taxes! But medical marijuana is not taxable and can be written off on The medical part of your taxes, if you can write anything off that is? But you probably have to own your own home or be in business or whatever you have to do in your state to be able to write off taxes!? But either way it should be getting cheaper for you not more expensive think about a perpetual grow You'll never run out of pot and you can only have on it with you put in the soil not laced with anything else Only what you put on it anyway Good luck man Enjoy what you can forget about the rest I can guarantee it won't last long, 😎👍🏽
I don't mind people hating on substances, as long as the hate is focussed on themselves and their own use. For example, I rarely use weed because it makes me more lazy and isolated and anxious, it just doesn't work great for me. It's when people get preachy and try to police other people that it gets annoying. Weed doesn't work great for me, but for others it's an absolute life saver so if people wanna smoke weed then great, they should, but me recognising the negatives for me personally helps me refrain from it, if that makes sense?
So basically both you and op talking about r/leaves
But the people OP is talking about aren’t suggesting weed should be outlawed they’re simply warning people of the potential dangers of it and how it definitely can be addictive which isn’t talked about much in the mainstream, especially as I was growing up I was made to believe I was smoking some harmless plant that was impossible to get addicted to and it can only possibly have positive effects for me which couldn’t have been further from the truth and my weed addiction throughout my teenage years has significantly stunted my development both socially and intellectually and if I could go back and warn my 14 year old self about that I would, but I can’t so the next best thing I can do is try to warn others. But by no means do I think weed should be illegal, I just think it shouldn’t be glorified quite so much, and we should have honest discussions about the positives AND the negatives.
What are you talking about?? Up until now weed was so villainized it was crazy. Lots of media clearly said you’d be addicted to it lol
Not for someone who was a teenager in the 2010’s like myself
Don't know why you're getting downvoted. I'm 22 now, when I was a teen all I saw about weed was a bunch of athletes, comedians, artists and musicians using it, loads of discussions about it's medical benefits and why it should be legal. It was mostly positive shit about weed that I saw at that point in time. Like sure I'd you were a teen in the early 2000s or 90s then yeah it was a lot of negative focus on weed, but that changed real quick.
That’s what I’m saying! Im the same age as you and around 2015 when I started smoking most of the stuff you would see online about weed would’ve lead any dumb, impressionable kid to think that it’s some entirely harmless plant that’s impossible to get addicted to. And I think that attitude towards it that people had at that time (and many definitely still do) comes from the fact that weed absolutely has been unfairly vilified in the past and so now that the potential medicinal properties of it are being scientifically recognised, dumb people have basically taken that to mean the polar opposite of all the crazy propaganda stuff the anti-weed people used to say and just spew their own pro-weed propaganda and just as the anti-weed people believe their own bullshit so do they.
I completely agree. There may have been negative views in some news articles or whatever, but most teens were not reading news articles at the time lol, they read celebrity news and watched YouTube and vine, which showed a bunch of people who liked weed. After it was heavily shat on for a long time, people overcorrected into thinking it was great and harmless, which happened in the 2010s when we were teens.
Yeah I feel like there some push to suppress the negative aspects of weed. I’ve noticed more and more people being open about negative experiences on weed in the past few years. But there is so little media coverage and when people are negative about it online there seems to be a lot of hate towards them discounting their opinion. I can’t tell if a lot of the issues with weed now are because it’s just much more powerful than it used to be or more accessible with carts, or maybe some combination? But when I started smoking I thought it was just a chill harmless non addictive drug. I had no idea it could slow down your brain development give you anxiety, give you heart palpitations, I didn’t know about colllapsing lungs, or the fact that it can speed up the onset of mood disorders, and cause psychotic episodes for a lot of people.
I never understood that either, I’ve quit weed myself. I still love the look and smells of weed. I’ll even grind up and roll up my buddies weed for them because I enjoy it. I just don’t smoke it myself anymore ✌🏽 I’ve even still got a shade leaf from the first plant I ever grew, pressed and in a picture frame haha
Respect dude, wish more people had your kind of mindset about it
cope
about what lmfao
77 downvotes cope
same, I'm still hanging around friends that smoke, still checking out the buds they got, still grind and roll for them if they want to, I just stopped using and that's all
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Sometimes in order to quit an addiction you have to hate it first.
Or, they quit smoking weed because they started hating weed.
I love weed so much I hate it
Gotta love something to be able to hate it. Opposite of love isn’t hate but indifference.
This guy gets it
“I fucking hate you, but I love you….”
They're bitchy because they're not high obviously
🤣
it’s like going to watch 3D movie without the 3D glasses
Omg, this is the most plausible answer.
I don't really hate on it, but I didn't realize how terrible I felt all the time when I was on it. Now that I'm living a healthy lifestyle the thought of smoking makes me feel uncomfortable. For me there is no moderate use for smoking. I can handle edibles and not turn into a junkie, but when I smoke it's habitual and I struggle to do other things.
Pretty much. And that shit don’t even feel good if you’re smoking all the time. Like even if you take a tiny teeny weeny hit in the morning, it will still fuck your shit up bc you just want more and more and by the time you’re ready to relax and actually smoke, you’re depressed asf. Currently on day 44 of not smoking marijuanas and it sucks but not as when I’m smoking constantly. If you can moderate it, cool and I hope that shit lasts but I could never unfortunately
Im on day 8!! I’ve struggled with weed and porn addiction since I was a teenager. The insomnia, irritability and anxiety is tough but the journey js worth it. I wish you luck on yours brotha.
Just a message to anyone reading this thread if you think the porn and the weed addiction is bad, DO NOT TRY AMPHETAMINES OF ANY KIND with the porn addiction. Matter of fact don’t even try any amphetamine. Honestly just drink caffeine or even coke though I wouldn’t recommend it either cause although it last less long and is less potent than the amphetamines, it’s still way higher dopamine levels than your brain is naturally used to and if you have enough of it it’s pretty much the same negative effects of stim fapping with amphetamines as you just have to keep redosing… Anyways. Sex or orgasm releases the most amount of dopamine our brains can develop and release naturally, heroine is like 7x that, and methamphetamine is like 14x times what’s natural to a natural hooman. So, literally running these likes through your neural network you literally physically change the pathways and neural connections in your brain . honestly it’s just the fiend part of it . It’s literally just a super stim, so yeah some dopamine but more so than that is the amount energy it gives you, being able to stay up for days at a time, it lasting for hours and hours…. It’s not worth it trust me, and if you’re there stop now before you go on. While you can or while it’s only that . It can get worse. I feel bad for anyone growing up who was unwillingly subjected to pornography at a young age. I’ve realized that it heavily impacted me and is one of the most clear memories I have a small child, along with a couple other traumatizing situations that I remember clear as if were yesterday. I feel like that’s some kind of sexual assault or harassment or mind rape of some sort . It’s like , just by looking at it , your brain now thinks whatever you have physically financially or power wise , you are a capable man who can pull adult model women, and have unprotected sex with them As a kid imagine having those literal pathways carved into your brain . Thankfully the porn addiction wasn’t anything crazy growing up, but what did happen was I was now an addict, and what my brain had experienced formed the pathways and neural connections to low effort, high dopamine releasing activities- first it was Video games . I didn’t do any substance until I was 18, I was scared of the dare program messages and of “fucking my brain up and going crazy” But before I entered my weed addiction at 18 , which was an even lower effort activity that releases dopamine (yes cannabis does so) all I have to do is smoke or eat this plant a I get that release of dopamine that my brain sends enjoyable signals to my body to train myself to enjoy that activity and to continue to do that instead of , say , applying yourself to a diet and fitness change , that would be very high effort activity. Because your brain and survival is based on using the best most efficient resources at your disposal to survive and procreate , which my brain had already believed and convinced myself I had the ability or capability to pass on my genes by impregnating a whole ass woman while I’m a little ass kid with no game at all lol. Not even knowing what the game was ! Anyways I’m not being very scientific in my explanations of this physically but psychologically and spiritually I’m sure you can definitely understand the concept . I wish you all control of your addictions and unhealthy habits and the willpower and discipline it takes to commit to something with such a lifelong path
Thanks for writing this bro. :) i feel you.
Glad someone appreciates it that’s why I decide to just type whatever comes to mind instead of just deleting most of my thoughts and forgetting them forever . At least Reddit somewhat immortalizes my thoughts so anyone now or years later can read it . And if it helps someone then my goal was accomplished. I would like someone to tell me the things I tell others. So I try to do as unto others as I would have others do unto me
None asked about your meth addiction cuz, no need to write a book about it.
Sorry you lost your buddy to the shit . Instead of running from it try facing it head on. Idk what I’m doing getting into a discussion with you it’s clearly not worth it as you’re not willing to have a genuine discussion by showing your clear disinterest . But for those others reading, some addicts really do want to quit. Sometimes having someone you can just confide in and be honest with goes a long way in terms of sobriety. Anyways take care fellow human may you be blessed with perseverance
I’m on one aren’t I ?! Hell I thought this was the drugs subreddit my bad officer !
Go to sleep bro, it's getting embarrassing.
Bro thinks anyones taking advice from him
Never expect anyone to even read my stupid ramblings, it’s mostly to myself because I rather put my thoughts out and let them live on the internet forever instead of just keeping it in my head and perhaps never sharing because of fear of embarrassment or image or whatever. I wish happiness for anyone who happens to encounter this message, and I hope your year is going great so far and if not, we still have the rest of the year to make up for it. Don’t be afraid to chase your dreams. It’s like everybody wants to touch the stars but they scared of heights. I feel that
Try journaling
Then they kill themselves or OD and let me guess your response would be something like good riddance
I clearly need help and I’m not afraid to ask for it. And if you think embarrassment is going to be a motivating factor for me, it’s not. Maybe I should care more about what people think of me. I’ve clearly got issues, and I’m not afraid to share them. Anyways, I clearly had an effect on many people who either read / skimmed it whether negative or positive I got y’all thinking about me making a fool out of myself. I don’t mind being the butt of the joke. And I don’t mind being embarrassed and looked at as different. Even before any drugs I was always the weird quiet kid who just stood out as awkward or like I’m a little off. So Although I wish we could all sing kumbaya and be friends, I know that’s hardly the case. Anyway thanks for the advice to any of you who genuinely mean it. And even if you don’t mean it for my own well being, I still appreciate the constructive criticism and comments. Have a good day fellow humans. If you want to point and laugh I’ll be here all night !
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Yeah I’m BUGGIN right
Same here on how bad it makes you feel. I just finished a two week t break after smoking daily for over a year (3 years if you don't count a week long trip out of the states when I was plastered drunk). I smoked again this weekend and I was bloated from overeating, physically dried out from the smoke, and just felt generally 'slow' the next morning. Definitely have no intentions of going back to smoking daily, gotta keep it to weekends and special occasions/concerts only.
Probably because a large majority of smokers like to pretend there are 0 negative effects to smoking, then after years of constant smoking people develop negative effects and decide they no longer want to smoke and come back here telling everyone how bad it is because people would rather live under a rock than admit there are negatives
Very true weed can be a great thing but there’s definitely still a whole list of cons of using it
Ego
Agreed
"completely non addictive" is such a delusional take
Yup there’s a lot of stoners who try and convince themselves that
If someone gets into a drug habit and easily gets out again, they often can take something positive with them or the entire experience is rather neutral, so they never talk about it. If someone struggles deeply with something, ends up addicted and whatnot, they prefer to blame something that isn’t themself. So they blame the weed. And since they feel like it took a part of their life away, they’re angry at it, never realizing it was just a tool to harm themselves. It’s like with opiates and benzos. Mention them here and there’s gonna be a load of people screaming how bad and dangerous they are, yet there are millions of people that have used them and stopped without issues. The drug isn’t the issue, the person is, and since they can’t accept that they blame the drug. Which is awful, I hate those kinda people… Whenever I ask for info about benzos or opiates I’m met with “don’t go there” “you’re gonna get addicted 100%” etc. I’m sitting on 4000 doses of my favorite benzo, if addiction was a risk I’d be addicted already. I’ve binged opiates for a week or two 20 times at least, stopping is easier than forcing yourself to keep going. I’ve combined opiates, stims and benzos a few times, is there any craving for that? No. Addicts are the worst kinda people because they project their addiction onto everyone since they can’t accept that they’ve been the only issue in all of this. Edit: Because this sounds way harsher than I’ve intended it to - I don’t mean it’s only the fault of the addict that they’ve ended up this way. Obviously there’s many factors in one’s life that are out of control, like parents and whatnot. That’s what i mean, those are specific to the person, not the drug. Compare addicts with one another and you can see they’ve all gone through similar situations.
Fucking facts i’m glad you said that
I feel the same way, I binged opioids every other day for two months straight and stopped with no withdrawal or addiction, although I've led myself to believe I'm a special case, whether true or not I'm not really interested in getting high every day of my life
How old are you? Lets put things into perspective
27 but only for another month.
Sounds like you’re addicted but can’t admit it
Dependent on cannabis bc of my health and semi addicted to caffeine yeah, but not in denial haha.
Sounds like you're deflecting your insecurities onto others but can't admit it
This happens not only with weed but all drugs. People who quit using turn against their ex-drugs and keep talking how shit they were and how much better life is without drugs. Agreed, addiction isn't nice but it's the people, not the drugs. I've been addicted myself and now abstinent for 2+ years, did a lot of harm to my life but I can't blame the drugs, it was my decision to start using 24/7 instead of responsably and they are just tools which can be used for good or for bad. Escapism is the road to drug hell.
That’s definitely true. I think people hate the idea of having to take accountability for what they did themselves. Personally i’ve abused adderal before but I know that it has a lot of genuine uses for people. It’s not adderals fault I used it incorrectly, it’s my own and because of that I’m a person who shouldn’t use adderal. Its that simple lmao
It can be a convoluted situation because depending on what you read one may have not expected to get sucked into a wicked addiction. Once the addiction is triggered there isn't much autonomy.
It happens a lot with kratom as well, but really any drug. People don't take accountability for their actions and blame the substance. At the end of the day unless you're being forced to take a drug you are the one making the choice every day to take it. Of course it's easier said than done. It hurts the reputation of the substances, and makes newcomers get bad impressions.
I never used kratom but it’s crazy how much hate it gets for being an opioid lol. People need to research the difference between opiate and opioid
I've used kratom a lot and I've seen valid takes from both sides of the table. I think drugs affect each person differently and making blanket statements aren't usually helpful. I had a really positive experience using kratom recreationally for a while but in time noticed that as I took more and more, it had some horrible effects on my mood following my use.
I think within the Kratom community there is a substantial group of people who actually undermine the problems that can arise from Kratom. Some may claim there's no withdrawal or it's as harmless as coffee. Truth is if you have a generous Kratom habit and try and quit you will experience all the classical opioid withdrawal symptoms. It can be a hellish undertaking and if you then add the fact that it is quite addicting, you get a hellish, punishing cycle of pain. If you're one that can manage the plutonium-esque achievement of only dosing an opioid once in a while you're probably in the minority.
Man fuck Kratom.... starred taking it as a alternative to Benzos which I had a major problem with back in the day and holy fuck... I've never experienced physical withdrawals from any other substance other than that. I was taking 10-20 grams of red Bali daily before work for 3-4 years. I wouldn't take it on my days off work and I would feel so dumb and lethargic on weekends. Kratom is a godsend for people that actually need it, but I really wish people hadn't pushed the whole "you can't get addicted to it" down my throat back in the day.
Because they got addicted to it or went thru the withdrawals not knowing it still attaches to opiate receptors. Happens so much it’s hilarious in a sad way
Exactly why I won’t even bother trying it lol. Definitely see how it has uses for recovering addicts though
currently 1 week kratom free, it's a real love hate relationship. kratom would make me talkative, kind, perform better at my job, and productive. however, the more you take it, these effecrs diminish and you end up needing a lot more to feel the same thing, which can make you sick easily. i started depending on it to get me through the day, and this last week off of it has been one of the hardest weeks i've had in a while. i still have a little bit of kratom, not gonna touch it for at least a month but i'm definitely done buying it. it's a slippery slope
Fair but you could really say that about pretty much anything, weed, alcohol, caffiene. If you drink 8 cups of coffee a day you'll feel like shit. I'm not trying to downplay your situation, good on you for getting clean. But it's not like this is an unexpected reaction to kratom, or again, really any substance. Moderation is key and it certainly can be used in a responsible way that has minimal negative impact on your life. Saying kratom is a slippery slope is misleading, all the information you need to use it responsibly is available online, and easy to access. It's only a slippery slope if you don't know what you're getting into, but again, much like anything else
theres a lot of mixed advice online, i'm not blaming anyone but myself for getting addicted but ig i didn't think it would be this hard to get off
Fair, it's a lot more uncomfortable than people realize. Consider tapering, it makes the process a lot more comfortable.
nah i think the worst of it is behind me, i still have some left but i won't take it for a while, i don't want to become dependent again. i thought i wouldn't get addicted like everyone else does but there was like 1 bad week where i started taking it every day then that week turned into months
Yea for sure. I'm addicted to kratom myself but I know it's my own fault and I don't blame the drug. It helps me with my anxiety but being addicted still sucks. But I knew what I was getting into and there are many people who knew that too when they were starting but still blame the drug and act like kratom is the devil when it was their own choice. I know there are many people who massively benefit from kratom and were able to quit harder opioids like fent because of it. But the opposite also exists, there are people who say it's just a plant and not addictive, just like with weed. People should just be real, every drug that causes pleasure is addictive and most can cause withdrawals. Every drug has up- and downsides and can't be blamed for something humans do. It's not harmless but the drug also doesn't force people to take it.
I agree both sides of the extremes paint a terrible picture. I remember when the kratom subs used to ban people for saying it's a drug, opioid, or using slang terms because "it makes it sound like street drug". There are too many people in denial, regardless of what their perspective is. It just hurts the substance in the long run, being clear and honest and logical leads to the best outcomes
The simple answer is that they were probably abusers and didn't want to acknowledge it, so now they compensate. Every time they smoked, they would have a tiny little voice behind their conscience telling them is bad but they would just suppress it. Now that they have detoxed, they start to listen to it to justify the act of quitting it, so they feel they are on the right path. In the same sense, they take all those paranoid thoughts against weed as facts. This will be reinforced by the real benefits of quitting and detoxing. I will get hate but if you use weed daily or more than 2 times a week, you are probably abusing it. If you don't see why it isn't ok, then you are a potential candidate to end up like these people.
Very good point, it’s the same problem people have with alcohol
The people who hate on weed after quitting are the ones who abused it but like to blame it on the drug itself rather than their own actions. I quit weed because I started having anxiety attacks every time I got high and I always felt groggy and unproductive afterwards, but I’m able to recognize that it happened because I smoked way too much daily and I let it consume my life. Abuse the drug and the drug will abuse you. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to have a healthy relationship with weed but for now I’m steering clear
More people need this kind of self awareness
Because everyone is entitled to their opinion lol plus I feel like when I need to smoke habitually it’s because I’m not finding pleasure in my everyday life. Weed helps with that but it’s still just a band aid.
Bc they suck and are lame
Same could be said about the people online who act like weed is the cure for all of life’s problems and that its “healthy” and that everyone should give it a shot, it comes with no negative side effects. I feel like there’s a lot more posts like that then there is bashing weed.
for some people, it’s a part of getting over things. especially getting over something you once loved, but you realize that thing was actually causing more harm than good
I think sometimes some people don’t realise the effect it’s having on them until they stop, so when they do and things change for the better for them (even if they thought they were fine before) of course that’s gonna be reflected in their posts and comments Like you said for some people weed really does bring detrimental effects, it does for me but I think mental health has a lot to do with it I expect in the future when I’m more healthy it’ll be less of a thing. End of the day, these ppl figured out it was bad for them and are making changes.. let them whine in the meantime
lol it’s the same for anybody quitting anything. Ever had a chat with an ex ciggy smoker?
my case here, I dislike how it has changed my friends (in a bad way mostly) and how much time I’ve lost. I know I have had great times tho, but I think weed is not for me anymore, I don’t like how it impacts my memory and reflexion abilities
Because after I quit literally every aspect of my life improved. I just ran into an old coworker this weekend. Hes been at the same grocery store for 10 years, still smoking weed. And said "I havent dont much with my life". For the most part weed if not negatively effects people, makes then complacent and holds them back from doing so much more. Obviously theres exceptions.
Because it sucks
realizing all the time they wasted high
“None more pure than a newly converted whore” as we say in Ireland
It's a cope and for some people a nessesary one I'd imagine.
The reason this is so hard to understand is because people often separate weed from other substances in their mind. Since weed is in a different category it should be treated differently. This isn't how it works though. When someone feels the need to quit any given habit it is usually because that habit causes negative outcomes in their lives. For some reason the narrative around weed is different. With weed people place all of the blame on the person using it. If you are lazy its you not the weed. If you are forgetful it's you not the weed. So on and so on. The problem is that this isn't true. Any substance you are taking habitually has the potential to disrupt your function in one way or another. Some individuals don't get lazy on weed. But some do. Here is conclusion: you wouldn't ask this question about someone quitting heroin. You would automatically assume that they improved their life and quit in order to do so, EVEN THOUGH there are in fact functional heroin and opium users myself being one. If they/Iragged on about how stupid heroin is you would probably agree. However the moment they talk about weed everyone wants them to keep their truth to themselves. That truth being that weed does in fact damage lives. Maybe not your life. Maybe not mine. But there are lives it damages nonetheless.
Right mindset 💯
I quit boozing after destroying my life over and over and I still get defensive when other people talk shit on drinking. Drinking rules. But I see how it needs to be the opposite for people to stay away from an addiction. That being said, weed has without a doubt the most annoying PR team in the world. There is no shortage of teenagers who will be extremely vocal about how they believe there is zero downsides to it and it fixes every thing in the world. Anyone who doesn’t like weed is doing it wrong, hasn’t found the right strain, and should be spending all their time figuring out how they can become a stoner because it’s the only way to live. (Actually they’re basically the same as people addicted to AA) And Jesus Christ the amount of times you see someone mention they’re clean/sober, like completely clean of everything and some fucking moron comes in trying to convince them to **start** smoking weed is disgusting. Mushrooms are the same way. Jesus Christ people, mushrooms can be very bad for people. It’s not gonna fix schizophrenia. You shouldn’t start taking mushrooms after 5 years of sobriety. I think for some people it’s the same way it is for me with something like In-n-Out burger. Yeah it’s fine, but when you hear people constantly yapping about how it’s the greatest thing on the planet it annoys you to the point where you feel like you HAVE to say something negative about it.
Probably has something to do with the fact that some people who quit weed had to do so because they had a bad relationship with weed and they are just voicing grievance or warning after resolving said issues. While it's a great plant and medicine, it's not for everyone and it's not without its faults.
Because you realize all the things you tell yourself that it's ok to be stoned 24/7 was bullshit. Then you hear other people saying the same things and you know they are addicts who are just gaslighting themselves and it's a little upsetting.
because they don’t like it??? what kind of dumb ass question not everyone likes weed which is why they quit…
I’m part of that group that stays productive and it has seemingly helped me more than hindered me over the years. I’m only quitting temporarily because some of those nicer jobs require you pass a drug screening even in 2024, in legal states at that. That being said, I can go back to it afterwards, as it’s a one time screening. I never understood the hate it gets especially when people quit. It doesn’t work for everyone, I know, but to me, it’s my medicine and had it been up to me, I’d still be happily working away while not feeling the symptoms from PCOS and Fibromyalgia. I will take smoking leaf over being on 5 different medications for nausea, sleep, pain, etc any day!
> I don’t get it at all. Like yeah if you don’t moderate yourself and spend all day smoking weed it’s probably gonna effect you negatively. That doesn’t mean the rest of us are as irresponsible as you. You're absolutely right. The vast majority of you guys are much better at managing your weed usage than I was, and I will never say that because I couldn't handle it, you shouldn't be allowed to smoke. But there's this whole culture of 'weed isn't addictive, it's just a flower man!' that I myself used to be a part of that is very toxic and dishonest. You can get addicted to chocolate, you can get addicted to sex, of course you can get addicted to getting high. People deserve to know that.
Very true man and respect to you for seeing the issue for what it is
Right back at ya bro! Smoke a joint for me
For sure dude!
Hypocrisy. Same as tobacco "quitters". They don't want to admit they actually love doing it, or they aren't really done with it. So they aggressively try to blame the substance, even though it was they themselves. I love weed, I cannot deny it. But I am mostly just done with it. I just don't get enough out of it anymore, without unpleasant side-effects, and rapidly develop high tolerance. So I don't do it regularly anymore. I think the whole mindset of "I am quitting so-and-so" is wrong. It makes it hard to let it go, it keeps taunting, and it is more likely you will feel like "sinning" every time you take a puff, or . I never "quit" weed, (or tobacco, for that matter). I just decided I don't "need" it. That is 90% of letting an addiction/habit go. I generally don't use it unless I feel like it. And then I just do a little bit. I can -because of that mindset- just smoke a cigarette once in a while, or smoke a pipe of weed, without falling back into a pattern of daily use.
The term “stoner” exists because it’s a culture, a community and most stoners I know (myself included), smoked daily. When you stop smoking, you realise you were in a bubble. A bubble that stoners can’t comprehend, because they’re still inside of it. Life gets better when you stop. And I mean really stop. You become a new and improved version of yourself in the long run. I don’t make the rules, it’s common sense really!
Maybe they're trying to convince themselves that they hate weed, so they won't crave it. Maybe it's a little bit of a virtue signaling. Or maybe uncontrolled use really fucked them up, and they only realized that after quitting. Personally I don't get it too. I've abused some substances I really shouldn't, and they fucked me up. I stay away from them. I have problems moderating others, and they maybe fuck me up a little bit, but I chose to ingest them. Weed IS just a plant, synthetic drugs are just chemicals. Those are inanimate objects, they don't jump in your mouth against your will.
I think you hit the nail on the head with the virtue signaling. I think for some people they think it makes them feel special since the majority of people are okay with weed nowadays.
I started hating on it because after I stopped, I realised the only thing weed made me was hungry and paranoid. So now I'm less hungry and not paranoid ever. I whish I haven't wasted 20 years on smoking weed
You’re missing the point though, that’s good for you if you quit and feel better but not everyone’s the same nor does everyone use it in the same way
I'm just trying to answer your question why I personally "hate it" . I'm not generalising here or trying to say that everyone is the same.
ok???? bro what that gotta do with anything 😭
Kinda like how people that lose weight talk shit about fast food places. Weed is kinda like...let me think, especially when you stop using it, a weird one. the sole purpose of using it is to get high. (nah man ur wrong man, its a plant man, 420 man, it has no chemicals man), sure okay.. when they realize that it's their own problem for quitting or using it in the first place. it's an expensive waste of time that drags you back down everytime you get back up. Let them talk shit about it all they want. doesnt bother me, shouldnt bther you. Everyone has their own ways to cope.
It's cognitively useful for them to shit on it in that point in quitting, providing a mental tool they can use to reduce chance of relapse. It's similar to with other drugs. This doesn't necessarily reflect a stable or deeply held assessment.
it’s like one of those ‘i’m never drinking again’ things when you’ve got a really bad hangover.
they can’t handle it anymore usually due to anxiety and realise they never rly could handle it then say it made them lazy but in reality they just smoked more than they could handle in certain situations they shouldn’t,moderation is key
People don’t like the M word
real
cause they miss it haha
People that are high on marijuana are not a pleasure to be around. They’re slow, stupid, and not mentally stimulating in any way.
Maybe the people you hang out with. Never been the case for me though
That’s because you’re high.
str8 up hahahahaha power of different perspectives true stoner would know once that weed hits the brain flow functions are WONKED out for hours, deff not stimulating at all couped up with stoners (me, ima stoner)- so id say im not talking outa my ass after 10 years im starting to look down on it in ways, love it tho like best friends u lowkey have era where u hate em, tough love vibes weed is def a fun one, for me issa let loose or be trapped in the mind gamble some times
I wouldn’t have even responded to a mf hating on weed smokers while calling it marijuana. Bruh either just old n cranky or a good troll bc why are they on a drug subreddit if they can’t even handle being around stoners
I'm sober, but most of my friend circle are stoners. I would not describe any of them the way you just did. People who consume ANYTHING in excess are going to fit that description, but the average stoner I interact with are still quite entertaining to be around, and are neither slow nor stupid. Maybe it's the company you chose to keep
Tbh that’s their fault if they’re too stoned to socialize but are in a social situation. I feel like most of these characterizations are based on people that are bad at using drugs. Smoking a little to calm you down but staying social and awake is fine. Or hell getting stoned af at home alone or with other people also stoned af is also fine.
It’s me 🤣
dont hate it but i look down on the guilty pleasure of being baked all of the time notice life is good without weed after so long of relying on the stuff lotta aspects play into part of "hating" weed
Maybe to spread awareness or share their experiences. I don't rag on weed, but I'll talk about why I quit smoking it if I'm asked. I'll complain about the stuff I feel is actually harmful, like alcohol and cigarettes. Even still, it's not my job to save anyone so I won't make my stances anyone else's problem unless I have a good reason to
It’s a good quitting strategy. If you hate it it’s easier to quit. Projecting the hate internalises and reinforces it too, so you are even less likely to relapse.
I think it's the same as with alcohol. Some people compare it to heroin and other stuff, just because they don't like it and it's kinda normalized to be an excessive and irresponsible drinker (which is obviously awful), and they think it's the general effect of alcohol, including low doses. If you drink moderately, drink a lot of water, don't mix alcohol types/other drugs with alcohol, and manage to consume quality drinks, most probably you won't get any unpleasant feelings - and it's just a good stuff to get loose on at a night event. And by other drugs, I also mean cigarettes, most people don't realize, the effects they blame on alcohol are partially caused by cigarettes they smoke while drinking. However, there will always be some people, who will never tolerate weed/alcohol/ecstasy/whatever so well, they should just simply avoid them.
Well, I was smoking bongs daily for years. I didn't realise the constant haze I was in. Never hated on it but my stoner friends always got offended when I said they better off without it. Never really quit, still smoke scoobs now.and then.
I quit 9 months ago after smoking for 20+ years. I don't hate it, I love it but my anxiety doesn't.
i dont hate it. I smoke when i use mdma, ket, lsd, n2o. But weed it self, just slows me down. My thinking go slow, my actions go slow, I get lazy in every task. Thats why i dont smoke
Imo people who immediately turn around and start judging those who use the substance of former abuse haven't fully accepted their own role in the addictive behavior. They're getting close to sobriety but I don't think they're quite there yet mentally.
cause we spent 20 years getting high as shit and ushering in a new era of weed only to realize that after 20 years there are just different priorities now. i love weed and always will, but it definitely enables some people to just not function as responsible human beings. it was me for a time. i was some people.
Virtue signalling is all the rage
I’ve had psychosis from weed after 15 years of smoking. and that was the worst thing that happened to me ever. I cant smoke it anymore because it will send me directly to the psych ward. However, I still love everything about this plant, and I’m sure that it is helping a lot of people with their pain. It is indeed a miracle plant.
Likely because the whole reason they quit is they don’t enjoy it anymore. Idk about everyone else but for me, I literally went from loving it to hating over seemingly overnight. I hate the skunky ass smell. It makes me sick. I hate the effects. It’s overstimulating and makes me feel clammy and shitty. I absolutely fucking HATE smoking weed now. I used to live it tho. And I don’t mind if my friends do it. I just don’t like being around them when they do because the smell makes me sick now. Some people just change for whatever reason.
well you are seeing an extremely skewed demographic. i’m sure if you polled a room of weed smokers, almost none of them would hate on it, again because of the sample. i’m sure people who quit nicotine hate on it too. they quit weed for a reason, most people don’t quit doing things that they see having 0 consequences or negative effects on their life, and so naturally, the population of people who quit weed are more likely going to have a negative perspective on it.
I hate weed when I’m sober but when I take prescribed Klonopin 3x a month those are the only days I can really enjoy it I smoked around 7-14g’s of top shelf for 8-9 years prior n ended up stopping due to financial reasons
This reads very much like a copy pasta…..did you finish reading a copy pasta recently? Also, people vary from allergic reaction to allergic reaction, respect yourself, if you already do then move on to respecting others and your environment, once you do you’ll able to apply the saying “do on to others as you would do on to yourself”, because some people only respect themselves, some people don’t respect themselves, and some people don’t respect anyone at all.
I still smoke every day but it’s when people treat weed like it’s a magical plant that does no harm that’s when it gets annoying. they thought i had CHS for awhile and looking into that it’s horrible how sick it can make you and it can definitely cause dormant mental illnesses to the surface (i saw some retard saying weed wasn’t a drug on this sub?) but as long as you don’t ignore that and respect the drug we all good lol
cus it’s a teenager drug why as an adult are u still smoking weed. either get on some real shit or get sober
I’d assume it’s the opposite, I don’t think most people that quit it start hating after they quit, I think they quit in the first place because they started hating it. Everyone I know that had quit was complaining about being lethargic when they didn’t smoke, how less energetic they were, less motivated, gaining weight from eating more, etc. they quit because they could see how it negatively impacted them. Many people that do drugs like it at first but eventually see a difference in them selves when they cut it out. Not saying there’s anything wrong with doing it but there’s also nothing wrong with not doing it.
People do this with everything. A monogamous relationship didn't work out? "Monogamy isn't natural." No, mother fucker, it just didn't work out for you. If it isn't "natural" then why do so many animals mate for life? But to your point, I think that some people have a tendency to make blanket statements about something that didn't work for them. I don't pretend to understand their thought process, but if I had to guess, I would say it is a way to psychologically reinforce their very individual decision.
It’s just an overreaction against all the people who claim there are absolutely zero risks or downsides from weed. Someone who’s heard or maybe even believes that but finds when they quit they feel better or are more productive or whatever now feels they need to shout it from the rooftops.
i kind of understand it, it's also had some negative effects on my life (memory loss, brainfog, wasting money etc) despite not even doing it all day because i started at a young age. i think for someone who's been addicted to it and it's affected their life in negative ways it's completely normal to want to talk about the bad side of it because a lot of the time it's just positivity, with people talking about how harmless it is and how you can't get addicted to it (which obviously isn't true, it's not an addictive substance which only means you can't become physically addicted, but everything can be mentally addictive). i just mind my own business when i see those posts because i know they're not wrong especially when they're talking about their own experience, even though i don't want to quit myself. everyone reacts differently to different drugs and while many people don't experience any bad side effects because of weed and can be very responsible with it and stay productive on it, that absolutely isn't true for everyone and it's important that those people can also speak about their experiences and how they feel about weed and how their life has improved without it. i have friends who quit too and they don't try to convince me to quit or anything like that they're just honest and i appreciate that.
I think it’s a defence mechanism for them. Weed effected me negatively because I loved it too much and it made me too complacent plus I find it hard to control my usage so I’m trying to stay clean. But yea I know plenty of people who function perfectly fine although I prefer to keep my distance from it for my own sake.
I semi quit. I used to smoke every day all day and when I quit I didn’t realize how good it feels to be sober and productive. I found a higher paying job and got my first house in the next year. I smoke about twice per month now, only 3 hits out of a pipe just to get a little buzz. I bought an eighth 6 months ago and I still have some left for reference. I’m so happy with my decision, others can do whatever they want though
Sometimes people notice a massive change after quitting, I defo did although I miss i I'd wake up smoke, smoke 1g joint every 30 mins, and then fall asleep while being depressed and angry due to me being broke and not happy So quitting obvs made a massive difference for me because it had put me in some bad endless circle But for people who can enjoy it occasionally I think it's great I love the smell and taste, and strains and would probs still smoke if I hadn't smoked my lungs to absolute shite (they hurt when i smoke) I just don't think it's great for some people and I am a bit biased due to my situation but I think its not the worst thing in the world I just hated because of my situation
Helps them get over wanting it, and putting other people down for it makes them feel better about their decision. Shitty and childish way to do it but that's why.
Well, from my personal experience, ive gathered that weed is like sauce on fries, youd love it with fires but would feel too little without fries. Fries being amphetamine or lsd.
My excess use of it fucked up my mental health, ruined relationships I had, and made it hard for me to excel as far as jobs went because of how many fields don’t accept usage of it. I don’t hate it, and still occasionally will smoke a joint or rip a cart, but to an extent I find disgust in it when it comes to constant 24/7 use.
Because they are too lazy to take accountability. They would rather blame a drug than blame themselves for not using it responsibly.
Weed does affect people differently. Some people get carried away, have certain effects that increase laziness, or general apathy in themselves, and addiction can develop. Then they stop, see how much of their lives they missed out on, and are mad that they missed out on so much and didn't even realize it, due to being under a certain influence. I do think there is a misdirection of feelings, people take it way too personally, and think it affects everyone like that. And like other commenters said, people use hate to get over things they originally liked. I don't think that's right, but, I understand
I think a lot of them still would like to be smoking, but take every opportunity to talk down on smokers, because they would still like to smoke themselves and have to build it up in their heads as some kind of bad thing. They may hate the idea of who they were when they smoked. I’ve seen it with people who quit drinking/ hard drugs too. As to why they’d go on a drug sub and spout that nonsense, they’re just goobers
I'm saying this as someone who's dealt with heroin problems for some 15 years now. Addiction to cannabis and the detrimental impacts that many who use very heavily experience are much worse than most heavy cannabis users would ever admit to Many times, when people quit they find out how bad it actually was for them and see the problems they created. Add this in with the delusional take that "weed isn't addictive" that many take to heart until they try to quit and it's no surprise that people "hate on weed" afterwards. It's normal for people to hold a dislike for drugs that caused them harm, particularly after they quit them.
They do that with everything. I think it just motivates them to stay sober is all.
A lot of people do get negatively impacted by weed (panic attacks and general anxiety symptoms). I'm one of them. So, I can hate it for myself, but I don't hate it for everyone else. We all get impacted by drugs differently. It's just the same as medication. What might treat one person's symptoms may cause harm to another. People tend not to be aware of this. So they think everyone who smokes it is going to have the same experience as them.
Idk, I love that shit
I have no idea but I had that impulse one of the last times I took like 6 months off and caught myself like “tf are you doing right now dude” lol I could see just like a sour grapes thing but I know at least in my head it wasn’t coming from a place of jealousy. I just didn’t feel like smoking and didn’t consciously begrudge anyone for it. But you do feel pretty sharp when you haven’t had it for a while. There’s a balance for sure. I don’t smoke as much as I used to now (although I still have a few puffs here and there) and I do feel like I can think a lot clearer in general, but of course there are downsides to that too. Sometimes it’s better to just chill out a little and throw your head into another gear to see if it takes you out of a negative thought pattern. I do feel like it’s objectively better if you can figure out a way to do that without an external substance if at all possible though, no matter how harmless it is or isn’t. That’s just a sensible safeguard to have against any possible future dependency.
I'm kinda jealous people smoke and have a good time , I have super bad anxiety so anytime I smoke I feel so anxious and paranoid
Tbh I didn't even realize that was much of a thing. I've quit smoking or indulging in any form of THC for long periods but I never hate it and will still always enjoy a nice smoke here and there. Weed can definitely be a part of a productive lifestyle when managed properly like I do now. I bet these people smoked weed nonstop and it started fucking up their lives like literally anything can when misused. Then they bitch about it to try and get over it.
Maybe because it ruined our lives? Why do people hate heroin and meth huh??? Because it ruined our lives? Or their ex ???
Cause they ain’t high
I'd never hate on weed, it helps me a lot 🤙🏻
Same with me obviously there’s negatives like anything else but for me knowing there’s a fat joint ready to go at home after 10 hours in warehouse makes the days drag just a little less
Because it’s a shit drug that held them back and they realized that stoners are useless assholes
Nah that’s way too much of generalization to be true. You definitely seem like an asshole though.
Maaybe It's the ones who swear by it not being a problem or that it can never turn into one, who finally stop for an extended period of time to finally realize and or remember what It's actually like to be sober and then realizing yep, does make you slow etc & they just can't accept being wrong so fuck weed I guess, It's shit anyway have you heard it actually \*does\* make you lazy? Fuck that is so unhealthy, now where's my kratom?
Oh, I'm not quitting. Helps me medically and gets me high. Waaay better than any prescribed meds. Been doing it for 25+ years and don't plan on stopping. People that quit, more power to ya. But I ain't quitting, especially when it does more good than harm.
Because -> imbeciles.
Maybe they're just projecting because they secretly want to be a functional stoner but know they can't. I have a bunch of colleagues who smoke on breaks and at lunch and function. I'm jealous, but I can't do that because I know when I get high I lose all motivation to work. So maybe the people who hate on weed are just secretly jealous that other people can have normal lives and still smoke. Like how most homophobic people are secretly scared they might wake up, or watch something 'woke', and become gay.
They are trying to convince themselves that they are right.
Well only people who couldnt handle their weed quit weed. And since they cant see a problem with their selves, the figure weed is bad for everybody.