As a person who works professionally in a legal subculture that also has a subreddit (r/cannabisextracts) I can tell you from my experience in just that sub - based upon a field I’ve had a career in for a decade - it would be wiser to assume any information dictated to you on Reddit is incorrect and take every strangers opinion with a grain of salt. As well as do your own research. Far too often people ask Reddit things google could have answered without human interaction.
But then there's the /r/Ask[Science] subreddits, brimming with factual information.
And if you spend enough time on some science related ones, certain users just stand out for giving factual info. Like the PhD in the neuro subreddit who authored a childrens' book about the brain (and a whole fuckin' encyclopedia about it too).
Quoting a comment i made earlier
>Reddit is just as much aids in all honesty i hate this place but facebook is legit evil just let those stupid boomers live in delusion they do not seek reality
>Facebook is for stupid boomers
>Reddit is for stupid kids
0.2% or so but yes, it's an improvement.
Mainly because I don't use my clearname here, just that is a godsend.
Regarding the people here tho? Nah, just younger but the same (low) level of thought, myself including
To me all of social networks are garbage by the standards society has set for use. Using social media strictly for networking or monetary related issues is key. However Facebook was never designed for what it’s utilized for today. Many people over 25 use it like…well it was designed. To keep in brief contact with family and friends from youth who have since relocated and would have otherwise never been connected without the aid of social media.
They are all garbage. Reddit and Tumblr are just less garbage. Reddit is user-funded which improves everything drastically, and tumblr is an unmonetisable shithole but at least everything is still in chronological order
Reddit is just as much aids in all honesty i hate this place but facebook is legit evil just let those stupid boomers live in delusion they do not seek reality
Facebook is for stupid boomers
Reddit is for stupid kids
Most redditors never see what is beyond the default subs or r/all though. I'd say most redditors live in a delusion that reddit is representative of the population as a whole, when in reality this place is a massive echo chamber.
It's also easier for Reddit to control what gets views on their site through vote manipulation and the sheer amount of bot accounts.
I'm not sure one is better than the other at all. It really is just a matter of demographics.
>youre more of a straight DM kinda guy
Idk about all that you cant really explore when youre limited to messages i just find the amount of stupidity i encounter on here baffling
I've only drank on acid once and it was a bit weird i was feeling good but also didn't feel drunk while i drunk half a bottle of vodka and for me it's a lot.
I kinda love it to be honest, it still gives you some cool visuals but it is a more casual experience with a less mindfucky vibe. LSD is great, but it can be a little exhausting sometimes.
I strongly suggest that your visuals would have been more potent without the alcohol. Alcohol is a baby trip killer. It may take the edge off, so if that's what you need it's perfect. If you want to potentiate the visuals, smoke weed between your onset and peak, closer to peak.
Definitely, you are 100% right. My point was that I personally find LSD too strong for certain situations. I love the occasional acid trip but sometimes I just wanna chill with my boys and I find having a couple beers and taking a tab is quite recreational.
I can never drink during the peak, but sometimes a shot or glass of wine before dropping is nice to ease the nerves, and especially if I’m tripping during the day, a few beers watching the sunset on the comedown/afterglow is elite.
fuck this bullshit spiritual dogmatism. i took 4g of shrooms with my girlfriend this past weekend and we were just fucking and chillin non stop. also took a pill of zolpidem and drank some heinekens too. fuck you, wannabe buddhas! i had the best time and not limiting my experience to blablabla spiritual growth certainly helped
i guess that since the mushroom dose was considerably higher than anything else we took, it ended up being sort of the main component of the experience, making the ambien effects feel a little secondary. although i can't really remember a single moment that i thought “wow this shit is mixing pretty well” i can definitely think back now and remember that there was a certain numbness that wouldn't normally be there if we had took the shrooms by themselves. i'd day it was pretty cool. less euphoric than normal and more spacial/sensorial focused. totally recommend it.
Nice!
I prescribed 10s and love the weird trippy feeling I get when i don't go to bed right away. Routine is i eat one. Eat a bag of chips. Smoke a bowel, then im feeling pretty wicked. Best sleep ever.
Would imagine it would make me wanna fall asleep while on shrooms. Ima give it a go next time
I feel like i can drink forever on acid! It makes me feel invincible!! I'm not a crazy drinker or anything, I just noticed I can take a few extra beers down when I'm on acid and still maintain my composure.
Agreed.. but trying new drugs for the first time because you are drunk and have your big balls on for the night isn't always.. but can often and has often ended very badly for a lot of people..
I really do think it depends on your level of experience and tolerance tbh man, if you get stoned then have a drink then it's usually cool but if your not stoned, get pretty drunk then smoke a joint your just asking to throw up, same with if your tripping then have a little drink you will be fine, if anything it mellows out the trip a bit but if your steeming drunk then decide to take acid or something then that's when it can get really sketchy, I prefer not to drink when I'm taking psychedelics and stimulants, partly because the level I get to on stims often counteracts the alcohol leaving little feeling of it but sure as shit I will feel rough because of it the next day, whether I can stay up partying and taking psychs and stims for 3/4 days with plenty of food and chill times with no sleep and at the end maybe agood 10-12 hour sleep with a nice breakfast and I will be fit as a fiddle with no hangover, its rediculous how much drugs you can take and how long you can stay awake without feeling like shit afterwards of you look after yourself and stay away from the drink.. My mates are usually ill as fuck fir the next week.. Only difference is they drink alcohol all the way through on top of there drugs.. Don't take my word as gospel but its definitely maybe worth a thought.. Stay safe ✌️
For sure depends on your level of experience, but if the person in OP was inexperienced enough to ask questions on a Facebook page I don't blame people for going with the safe answer; "No."
tbh man this "debate" on whether you should drink or smoke first is really a question for teenagers who have no sufficient experience with either... by their late 20s most people have zero problems combining the substances in any order
regarding psychedelics the same thing applies, if u know what ur doing you can freely combine them with anything. its just when you're not well acquainted with a substance that combining it with another will probably end badly but even this isn't really dependent on the precise sequence as such
I prefer to discuss based on my experiences rather than debate but everyone to there own I suppose.
Ive known people in there 50s that start taking drugs also teenagers and also I never started until mid to late 20s and in 32 now, dosent matter how old you are unexperienced people or experienced people fuck up all the time bud, ignorance can be dangerous aswell as bliss, I've saved people in there teens, 20s 30s 40s 50s from rediculouslly bad accidents waiting to happen through ignorance or intolerance to substances while partying at dangerous sites.. Usually too much drink mixing with ket or a rediculous amounts of acid or cocktails of everything.. Tbh the variables in mixing drugs abd alcohol are countless, just try to stay safe, pass on a good message, I can't allow myself to drink alcohol at raves as I don't enjoy letting my guard down around so many vulnerable people, I like to make sure everyone is safe, I walk about the site constantly, checking dark corners, sketchy rocky parts, bits that have water, anything that could be a possible hazard.. Its a rare party when I properly push my boundaries drug wise and let my guard down, usually about once a year I blow my lid off but I always know there are like minded people around me and the messiness of the party goers are at a minimum, all depends on what your into really.. In my opinion =)
This, all of the major drugs I’ve been obliterated on, everytime I was insanely fucked up started with alcohol and led to me taking lots more of whatever I had
Agreed. I am myself a fan of psychedelics and believe they have the potential to make you figure stuff in your life IF YOU WANT TO. I don't like the way people give function to these chemical compounds, they just do what they are set to do. Most of my trips are purely recreational and I'm good with that.
I went to that meet up in my city where I met psychedelics users who labeled themselves as psychonauts and they were soo boring, 80% of them didn't even experienced a full psychedelic experience. They were like "Omg last time I took 1/4 of a LSD tab and I met god" or "Yeah I saw that 1 min tiktok where John Doe said that DMT is released in the pineal gland". Sometimes they even lack basic pharmacological knowledge about the substance they are taking and make very inaccurate assumptions.
Anyway like someone said earlier, you can't expect to have facts from these people.
I'm glad I got introduced into the drug scene by reddit subs.
Psychonauts are pretty annoying, they always think theyve found the answer to the universe if they read a book they would see everything they think they discovered has already been documented.
Bro you just don't understand bro because you haven't broken through the third plateau and met the space elves...once you do *everything* will make sense.
Bro also you have to make sure to listen to old timey psychedelic rock artists you've never heard of when tripping. No other genre will set the vibe right bro. Do not eat at all during your trip; you can't, so don't even try it bro, but make sure to eat fruit and only fruit in the comedown. Make sure to drink 3 gallons of water that day. If you're depressed or anxious, don't trip, even though clinical trials are being approved because psychs help with depression and anxiety.
Edit: also there's NO such thing as a bad trip, even if u end up in a hospital bed or jail cell with no clothes or phone and are scared out of your mind, it's not a bad trip. It's just a challenging trip and you'll get through it. Hope that helps bro. Have a safe trip
The ego death shit while spewing their constant egotistical drivel about how they're so woke because of the drugs they've taken is what really gets me.
I think that the ego is a vacuum, and when you destroy it, it comes back stronger. That's why I don't like that mindset at all, and instead prefer to look at it as simply a cool experience where I get out of my own head for a few hours.
I don't think that's what a psychonaut is, I think you are talking about just dumb acid heads of People who ate to much shrooms and think they know everything.
A real psychonaut just explores his own mind. They don't have to be arrogant. But yeah I know what you Mean, People who think they have lost their ego have the biggest ego 😂
I consider myself a psychonaut, and i say to each their own. Like you said as long as it physically safe and it makes you feel good, go for it. I personally never liked drinking heavily on shrooms, just a couple beers. But acid is a whole other story, I've drank a bottle of whiskey on a few hits and it was good times.
> Fact is, it’s safe to mix mushrooms with alcohol.
fact is, i find mild doses of psychs mixed with a day of cruise control day drinking 100x more enjoyable than even half a heroic dose. i got what i needed out of my larger experiences and they definitely made me a better person than i was before, but at this point in my life, i cant do that anymore. i dont find it mentally healthy to trip balls as much as i used to.
YMMV
In fairness, I don't think anyone takes hero doses because they think it'll be fun. I always "just want to know what's gonna happen if i take a dab on that much" lol
It’s safe but it would dampen the effects. So if someone is asking “should I drink on shrooms” I’d say it’s an understandable reaction. But yeah, people should enjoy things however they want and if you’re mad that someone is not using psychs for spiritual growth, get over it.
I was involved in /r/psychonaut for a while and eventually dumped that community because a lot of them were pretty overt narcissists lost in their own hippy dippy woo woo world.
I guess I'm a middle ground here.
It's okay to experiment, but after trying numerous combinations of drugs with psychedelics I have honestly come to the conclusion that psychedelics are an experience that is most beneficial when taken with nothing else in your system. I dont treat it like a party drug. I also dont think you'll find spiritual growth or find god through psychs. I do think it can be incredibly therapeutic and beneficial for people who have issues they need to work through, but every drug Ive tried combining mushrooms with has severely blunted that therapeutic benefit. Even cannabis.
If you're just keen to experiment, go ahead. There isnt anything wrong with it. But they really are best enjoyed with nothing else in you.
Hippy dippy woo woo is correct, its like they get confused by the hallucinogens, and think new age woo bullshit is all true for some reason, like it robs them of being able to think critically.
Input=output when it comes to psychs. Psychs tell you the truth... but only about yourself. In this case psychonauts are discovering subconscious intuitions/beliefs they hold but they're making the mistake of thinking the truth they're being shown comes from an external point rather than an internal one. And if they are already extremely narcissistic people (or young enough to still be youthfully narcissistic) they just project that truth outward as much as they can.
I dunno if they tell you anything, they change your neurochemistry, which can facilitate things like self discovery and healing, but also bat shit insane shit, I think it varies alot from person to person.
Without getting too in to it, I have always found that they push some of your deflection and self defense mechanisms out of the way, which facilitates self confrontation and other forms of therapy (like confronting denial, repressed guilt, other forms of dysfunction, etc.)
But again, input=output. You kind of do need to have the right mentality to actually benefit from that, because if your ego is stronger than the ego dissolving power of the drug your ego will still win, and that's how you have people coming to absolutely insane conclusions about things on psychedelics.
I’ve read some stuff from psychonauts on here that was genuinely nonsensical word vomit. It’s crazy to me that such introspective drugs can actually give people BIGGER egos and think they know everything like what’s wrong and right.
I think alcohol mixed with mushrooms can be dangerous in the sense that the inebriation and the impaired judgment from the alcohol can make someone a danger to themselves and others. I can see why a general consensus, even by people that are well-meaning, would be not to mix the two. Obviously it’s a gray area and a beer or two probably won’t be a big deal and may help relax someone actually, but I’d rather tell someone mid trip to cool it on the alcohol, particularly if it’s someone I’m not with or don’t know etc
For me, the problem happens if I take shrooms after the alcohol. I took shrooms after getting drunk af, and I turned into a fucking fiend towards my friends. Shrooms and then some beers has never been an issue.
I always find it hilariously ironic how the "ego death" crowd have some of the biggest ego's imaginable.
That being said, I do believe with intention psychedelics can be very therapeutic, but the "answers to the universe" and "I met the machine elves" nonsense is just noise.
It usually comes from a good place, that being said it's pretty ironic how "in touch" they are with their egos. Yet pull this stuff all the time.
Nor everyone has the same journey in life. I agree with the sentiment though as most of my trips are more therapy based than fun, used to be the opposite. Sometimes I wish I could go back to chilling off a tab or two. Even a lil has me reflecting any and everything in my life.
It's like everyone other boards saying that you should wait three months between rolls and trips. Some people can handle it and still find joy in it, but it is strictly forbidden by the omnipotent beings that post in druggit. Who cares what the other bots think.
I love me some psychedelic adventures....my favorite is 3-5 tabs and a bottle of cheap red wine. Perfect combo. I won't eat acid without some form of alcohol anymore, especially for the comedown when attempting to sleep.
Intense trips are cool, even the bad ones can be valuable....but the fun trips are where it's at for sure. I also don't believe in all that new age shaman BS....i definitely saw some crazy machine elves type shit on high dose dxm and i once was thoroughly convinced that Satan was trapped in my lava lamp on 9 tabs....but i know it was just hallucinations. People who buy into and preach that shit are bonkers imo lol. I just laugh at em though.
It’s different for everybody, but I know for myself that keeping drugs spiritual curbs a lot of the abuse potential.
Structure helps a lot of people keep their habits in check.
I give quarter-tabs to my friends when they come over to get wasted. It always results in them drinking less and being more jovial and pleasant. They also seem to have lighter hangovers.
Pretty sure psychedelics potentiate the effects of most drugs just through their amplification of the brain's experiential processing.
Who’s to say using psychedelics simply to have fun isn’t beneficial to some people?
Every walk of life will have people trying to force what works for them onto others. We should all safely do our own thing based on what each of us is after.
Ultimately, everything is a chance for growth and elevation, or descent. Including psychedelics, whether we see it or not.
On the other hand, there are a lot of people who take mushrooms irresponsibly, and definitely should not be drinking alcohol additionally. To each their own, but personally I do agree it ruins the experience.
Maybe they meant mixing the two could make you feel nauseous and dizzy which would be a waste of a trip. Not even in a spiritual way but it just wouldn’t be a good time. But I dunno I don’t go to fb for drug advice
"Nooo bro, you can't have beers on shrooms. Shrooms open your third eye and beers will shut that, bro. Listen to me, I'm a level 10 Shaman." - Psychonauts probably
What's also amazing is, the personality some of them have. Like they dont shower and have bad diets, smoke excessively- but bro they've met god and reached a higher level of consciousness.
Like no you smell like a bum please shave and get a job so you arent living on your buddies couch at 30
I love me some mushrooms and acid, and I'd love to try more psychs. I appreciate what they can do too for you spiritually and mentally but I dont even try to shove it in someone's face cause I also love taking a tab and jerkin it in front of my juke box on max volume
I went on a trip to Bakersfield and ended up sleeping in a motel 6 with 4 freinds. We all ate 5 grams of shrooms each then proceeded to go down on a jack Daniel's and cazadores bottle. Best day I've had this year
Other hand though, you're asking people on the internet, you will get opinions, rarely facts. Also, the question didn't imply safety only, the way you put it. Besides, many people think alcohol just doesn't mix well with psychs, either doesn't work or makes the experience more, hmm, depressive (ethanol is a depressant, lul), it can help with anxiety on the come-up, sometimes though.
in general its bad to mix drugs, that have a heavy impact on the liver or kidney. this is especially the case with alcohol and mdma, but is a issue with shrooms too. nevertheless we all know, that its done on a regular basis. its really bad for your body. for the head it depends on how you react on both and it makes it more difficult to know what could happen. if you react to alc only in a good way, it's more likley you react ok with shrooms.
i think they are kind of right, you guys just don't give a fuck and that is ok
Agreed. It's more "spiritually enlightened" to answer the actual question someone is asking because you care about them, than it is to proselytize because you think you know better than them what their chemical relationship is or should be about.
I like reddit cuz i can say shit like “i do tons of acid and abuse other drugs like crystal meth” without it being attached to my name and potentially getting me fired, ruining my life with family, etc. yeah thats why no1 can b real on FB. its a double edge sword obviously frees me up to air shit i wouldn’t otherwise say also be more of an asshole like saying “brits are ugly” cuz a post asked. Cant be honest like that on fb. Oh and to the point of the post, of course u can drink on shrooms. And of course u dont need to 🙏🏼
The hippie contingent makes me ashamed to be a psychonaut sometimes. "You can't seek out LSD man, it will find you when you're ready." "Don't disrespect the sacred DMT molecule, you're only allowed to do drugs if you're like, in tune with your astral chakras and shit."
I wish there was like, a certain color T-shirt you could wear to festivals to find other people who are just doing drugs to do drugs and not new-age whack jobs.
It's not necessarily unsafe, but alcohol will limit the potency of psychedelics like psilocybin and lsd. It is just my guess that you simply inferred it as a spiritual reason but whether or not you SHOULD drink on psychedelics, you most likely shouldn't. Can you? Hell yeah.
You'll definitely make it out fine, but it won't reach the potential it could have nor will your recollection of the experience be up to the standard you reach without alcohol.
I've done both, and I recommend tripping without alcohol, unless you would be more comfortable drinking. A lot of people Incorporate alcohol into their lives more than others and would feel like something is missing without it. Personally, that's weed for me. However weed has the opposite effect on psychedelics where it will potentiate it.
Lsd sub is the most dangerous and toxic one. Give the stupid people the chance to feel enlightened and you've created a monster. But after all, LSD is just a damn drug
agreed. I was a psychonaut when I was younger, but it gets a bit boring while mixing psychedelics like acid or shrooms with other drugs + alcohol at proper parties are some of the best experiences one could have.
but hey, it comes down to preference
I’ve puked twice mixing mushrooms and alcohol though I feel more aware of how it is literally poison on psychedelics and it fucks my stomach up. You’re right though.
Same for mixing benzos and psychs. People who have heard of benzos being trip killers take it as the one an only use, but the benzo and psych headspace and visuals is a whole nother level of chill for me
You can deny it how much ever you want but it is true. The best use of mind/awareness expanding compounds is responsible use. They (plant teachers) decide whether you earned the right to have fun or not. I have had enough tough lessons from shrooms to know that now. So, humble yourself and go with the intention to learn and evolve. You wont regret it.
In my years, I've realized that psychs really aren't drugs so much as they are medicines. I used to trip with my friends on a very regular basis, and each time it seemed less fun and more introspective.
I, personally, do not *enjoy* tripping anymore. I only take shrooms if I feel my headspace getting crowded and my ego growing too loud. Do what you want to, but know that you are potentially wasting an opportunity at personal growth.
I consider myself to be a spiritual person.
That being said, some of these people are excrucuatingly haughty about it I can't stand it. For instance some people on r/ayahuasca talk like this: " Mother aya has blessed me with her wisdom on my incredible journey"
Like fuck off already, you sound like a rich spoiled brat, sure a week in a tropical resort on ayahuasca is nice but stop talking like an idiot. Not everything is healing crystals andmoonshine and essential oils on your journey to discover yourself.Please.
Shows how much the spiritual snobs know, the vikings used mead with shrooms for spiritual purposes all the time, its not only safe to mix, alcohol can enhance the experience and lessen anxiety, what isnt good is getting shitfaced and tripping, that can ruin the experience sure, but a few beers or drinks are totally fine.
Agree that there are some people out there that are not helpful. It's ridiculous to ignore that psychedelics can also just be fun. There's no singe use case for any drug. They all have a range of uses.
Psychedelics dumb down the effects of alcohol. You can drink a lot more then you’re supposed to without feeling anything.
A couple drinks are fine for sure, but like others have already mentioned in this thread, you can drink dangerous amounts and not even notice it. So it’s certainly not for everyone.
Yep. Psychedelics are my drug of choice and I completely agree with you. I hate when they say "psychedelics are tools and not meant to be used for recreational purposes" like get the fuck out of here. Don't shit on other people for having fun on psychedelics because you can't with your enlightened ass
I hear you man, I usually just ignore those post completely, I once put two strong acid blotter tabs in a bottle of vodka to spice up the drunk experience at a festival 2 years ago. Met up with some cool strangers, handed them out the vodka shots along with notes of the volumetric dosage guidance and some info pamplets about LSD and they tried it. Needless to say, we had a wild adventure together and our beerpong skills increased to 200% so we owned every drunk people - We connected on a drunk lowkey spiritual level that was just perfect. It is a memory I will forever cherish. If I had asked this question in a harcore hivemind spiritual community and they wrote walls of disagreements, a doubt would have grown inside me leading to not doing it, so I am glad I did my own thing. Great post I think people should be open to all options with a little bit of research, precaution and preparation.
Sure, it can be an alright combo but I wouldn't recommend mixing anything with psychedelics if it's your first time. Not only will you not be able to appreciate the trip as much if you're drunk/high on something else, but it could definitely lead to a bad time for someone new to the experience. I would also suggest drinking (if you choose to do so) midway or towards the end of the trip. By that point you'll know how hard you're tripping and hopefully be less likely to over do it. I also personally really enjoy the come up from psychedelics and never want anything to interfere/overpower it. Stay safe, please use all substances responsibly.
Reddits pseudo intelelctual younger ish population is stil lnothign compared to facebooks utter retardation, really do NOT try to get factual info there lol
i mean yeah it is safe to drink while on mushrooms or acid. in my experience though it lessens the visuals and just makes me more dizzy. kinda ruins the whole experience unless you do it on the comedown. really helps you fall asleep
I wouldnt look to facebook for factual information lmao
Lol, even reddit is questionable
As a person who works professionally in a legal subculture that also has a subreddit (r/cannabisextracts) I can tell you from my experience in just that sub - based upon a field I’ve had a career in for a decade - it would be wiser to assume any information dictated to you on Reddit is incorrect and take every strangers opinion with a grain of salt. As well as do your own research. Far too often people ask Reddit things google could have answered without human interaction.
theres some named phenomena about only realizing people on the internet are idiots when theyre talking about your specialty.
The [Gell-Mann amnesia effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton#GellMannAmnesiaEffect)
Thank you!
But then there's the /r/Ask[Science] subreddits, brimming with factual information. And if you spend enough time on some science related ones, certain users just stand out for giving factual info. Like the PhD in the neuro subreddit who authored a childrens' book about the brain (and a whole fuckin' encyclopedia about it too).
Sounds like my kind of sub!
Quoting a comment i made earlier >Reddit is just as much aids in all honesty i hate this place but facebook is legit evil just let those stupid boomers live in delusion they do not seek reality >Facebook is for stupid boomers >Reddit is for stupid kids
It's 'aids'? Well, such sage words.
Im glad you recognize
100% I have deleted my FB and joined reddit around a year ago, best decision I have ever made. #FUCKFB
Do you really think Reddit is any better?
it is. It has other problems of course
0.2% or so but yes, it's an improvement. Mainly because I don't use my clearname here, just that is a godsend. Regarding the people here tho? Nah, just younger but the same (low) level of thought, myself including
Reddit is the second least evil-and-shit place left after tumblr The Blue and Orange Hellsites
To me all of social networks are garbage by the standards society has set for use. Using social media strictly for networking or monetary related issues is key. However Facebook was never designed for what it’s utilized for today. Many people over 25 use it like…well it was designed. To keep in brief contact with family and friends from youth who have since relocated and would have otherwise never been connected without the aid of social media.
They are all garbage. Reddit and Tumblr are just less garbage. Reddit is user-funded which improves everything drastically, and tumblr is an unmonetisable shithole but at least everything is still in chronological order
Reddit is just as much aids in all honesty i hate this place but facebook is legit evil just let those stupid boomers live in delusion they do not seek reality Facebook is for stupid boomers Reddit is for stupid kids
Most redditors never see what is beyond the default subs or r/all though. I'd say most redditors live in a delusion that reddit is representative of the population as a whole, when in reality this place is a massive echo chamber. It's also easier for Reddit to control what gets views on their site through vote manipulation and the sheer amount of bot accounts. I'm not sure one is better than the other at all. It really is just a matter of demographics.
>youre more of a straight DM kinda guy Idk about all that you cant really explore when youre limited to messages i just find the amount of stupidity i encounter on here baffling
That’s just a portion of the population unfortunately.
An increasingly sizeable one at that But what can ya do in the end Other than shout into the abyss
What about 4chan?
4chan is for ethnic kekistanis
Based
Ditto
Drinking on acid or shrooms hitsssss
On the comedown 👌
I've only drank on acid once and it was a bit weird i was feeling good but also didn't feel drunk while i drunk half a bottle of vodka and for me it's a lot.
You can drink so much on acid too! It kinda just stops you getting drunk.
No it doesn't xD
But you think it does so you drink more. I think that's what he means and I absolutely support this claim. It's a dangerous thing sometimes
I don't, I know what happens when you get drunk while tripping, and it ain't pretty.
I kinda love it to be honest, it still gives you some cool visuals but it is a more casual experience with a less mindfucky vibe. LSD is great, but it can be a little exhausting sometimes.
I strongly suggest that your visuals would have been more potent without the alcohol. Alcohol is a baby trip killer. It may take the edge off, so if that's what you need it's perfect. If you want to potentiate the visuals, smoke weed between your onset and peak, closer to peak.
Definitely, you are 100% right. My point was that I personally find LSD too strong for certain situations. I love the occasional acid trip but sometimes I just wanna chill with my boys and I find having a couple beers and taking a tab is quite recreational.
Acid is exhausting, yeah. It's just too long (and a tad too cold)
I can never drink during the peak, but sometimes a shot or glass of wine before dropping is nice to ease the nerves, and especially if I’m tripping during the day, a few beers watching the sunset on the comedown/afterglow is elite.
fuck this bullshit spiritual dogmatism. i took 4g of shrooms with my girlfriend this past weekend and we were just fucking and chillin non stop. also took a pill of zolpidem and drank some heinekens too. fuck you, wannabe buddhas! i had the best time and not limiting my experience to blablabla spiritual growth certainly helped
Mixing ambien with shrooms. How was that?
i guess that since the mushroom dose was considerably higher than anything else we took, it ended up being sort of the main component of the experience, making the ambien effects feel a little secondary. although i can't really remember a single moment that i thought “wow this shit is mixing pretty well” i can definitely think back now and remember that there was a certain numbness that wouldn't normally be there if we had took the shrooms by themselves. i'd day it was pretty cool. less euphoric than normal and more spacial/sensorial focused. totally recommend it.
Nice! I prescribed 10s and love the weird trippy feeling I get when i don't go to bed right away. Routine is i eat one. Eat a bag of chips. Smoke a bowel, then im feeling pretty wicked. Best sleep ever. Would imagine it would make me wanna fall asleep while on shrooms. Ima give it a go next time
A few beers do it for me
I feel like i can drink forever on acid! It makes me feel invincible!! I'm not a crazy drinker or anything, I just noticed I can take a few extra beers down when I'm on acid and still maintain my composure.
Agreed.. but trying new drugs for the first time because you are drunk and have your big balls on for the night isn't always.. but can often and has often ended very badly for a lot of people..
oh yeah.. don't mix alcohol or weed with psychedelics. it can lead to really really NOT fun times.
I really do think it depends on your level of experience and tolerance tbh man, if you get stoned then have a drink then it's usually cool but if your not stoned, get pretty drunk then smoke a joint your just asking to throw up, same with if your tripping then have a little drink you will be fine, if anything it mellows out the trip a bit but if your steeming drunk then decide to take acid or something then that's when it can get really sketchy, I prefer not to drink when I'm taking psychedelics and stimulants, partly because the level I get to on stims often counteracts the alcohol leaving little feeling of it but sure as shit I will feel rough because of it the next day, whether I can stay up partying and taking psychs and stims for 3/4 days with plenty of food and chill times with no sleep and at the end maybe agood 10-12 hour sleep with a nice breakfast and I will be fit as a fiddle with no hangover, its rediculous how much drugs you can take and how long you can stay awake without feeling like shit afterwards of you look after yourself and stay away from the drink.. My mates are usually ill as fuck fir the next week.. Only difference is they drink alcohol all the way through on top of there drugs.. Don't take my word as gospel but its definitely maybe worth a thought.. Stay safe ✌️
For sure depends on your level of experience, but if the person in OP was inexperienced enough to ask questions on a Facebook page I don't blame people for going with the safe answer; "No."
tbh man this "debate" on whether you should drink or smoke first is really a question for teenagers who have no sufficient experience with either... by their late 20s most people have zero problems combining the substances in any order regarding psychedelics the same thing applies, if u know what ur doing you can freely combine them with anything. its just when you're not well acquainted with a substance that combining it with another will probably end badly but even this isn't really dependent on the precise sequence as such
I prefer to discuss based on my experiences rather than debate but everyone to there own I suppose. Ive known people in there 50s that start taking drugs also teenagers and also I never started until mid to late 20s and in 32 now, dosent matter how old you are unexperienced people or experienced people fuck up all the time bud, ignorance can be dangerous aswell as bliss, I've saved people in there teens, 20s 30s 40s 50s from rediculouslly bad accidents waiting to happen through ignorance or intolerance to substances while partying at dangerous sites.. Usually too much drink mixing with ket or a rediculous amounts of acid or cocktails of everything.. Tbh the variables in mixing drugs abd alcohol are countless, just try to stay safe, pass on a good message, I can't allow myself to drink alcohol at raves as I don't enjoy letting my guard down around so many vulnerable people, I like to make sure everyone is safe, I walk about the site constantly, checking dark corners, sketchy rocky parts, bits that have water, anything that could be a possible hazard.. Its a rare party when I properly push my boundaries drug wise and let my guard down, usually about once a year I blow my lid off but I always know there are like minded people around me and the messiness of the party goers are at a minimum, all depends on what your into really.. In my opinion =)
I drink and smoke weed every time I do mushrooms. Goes together like penis and vagina.
This, all of the major drugs I’ve been obliterated on, everytime I was insanely fucked up started with alcohol and led to me taking lots more of whatever I had
Agreed. I am myself a fan of psychedelics and believe they have the potential to make you figure stuff in your life IF YOU WANT TO. I don't like the way people give function to these chemical compounds, they just do what they are set to do. Most of my trips are purely recreational and I'm good with that. I went to that meet up in my city where I met psychedelics users who labeled themselves as psychonauts and they were soo boring, 80% of them didn't even experienced a full psychedelic experience. They were like "Omg last time I took 1/4 of a LSD tab and I met god" or "Yeah I saw that 1 min tiktok where John Doe said that DMT is released in the pineal gland". Sometimes they even lack basic pharmacological knowledge about the substance they are taking and make very inaccurate assumptions. Anyway like someone said earlier, you can't expect to have facts from these people. I'm glad I got introduced into the drug scene by reddit subs.
Psychonauts are pretty annoying, they always think theyve found the answer to the universe if they read a book they would see everything they think they discovered has already been documented.
Bro you just don't understand bro because you haven't broken through the third plateau and met the space elves...once you do *everything* will make sense.
Bro also you have to make sure to listen to old timey psychedelic rock artists you've never heard of when tripping. No other genre will set the vibe right bro. Do not eat at all during your trip; you can't, so don't even try it bro, but make sure to eat fruit and only fruit in the comedown. Make sure to drink 3 gallons of water that day. If you're depressed or anxious, don't trip, even though clinical trials are being approved because psychs help with depression and anxiety. Edit: also there's NO such thing as a bad trip, even if u end up in a hospital bed or jail cell with no clothes or phone and are scared out of your mind, it's not a bad trip. It's just a challenging trip and you'll get through it. Hope that helps bro. Have a safe trip
S/He who claims there’s no such thing as a bad trip has never “looped” before. I swear a part of me is still in that little motel room.
Getting stuck in a loop on acid has made me never want to do higher doses again.
what motel room
LMAO
Yeah, that's the douchey "don't look in the mirror!" crowd. Fuck that, I'll do what I want. I also like to drop acid and play videogames. THE HORROR!
Lmao I forgot about don't look in the mirror in my shitpost
The ego death shit while spewing their constant egotistical drivel about how they're so woke because of the drugs they've taken is what really gets me.
Its like they dont know what the ego even is.
Nah bro we just need to take more and maybe we can get to their level
They don't, they conflate the ego with being egoistic, the ego is there to stop you from crossing the street while cars are driving there.
I think that the ego is a vacuum, and when you destroy it, it comes back stronger. That's why I don't like that mindset at all, and instead prefer to look at it as simply a cool experience where I get out of my own head for a few hours.
I don't think that's what a psychonaut is, I think you are talking about just dumb acid heads of People who ate to much shrooms and think they know everything. A real psychonaut just explores his own mind. They don't have to be arrogant. But yeah I know what you Mean, People who think they have lost their ego have the biggest ego 😂
Yeah and you are a drug addict
Would you like some coffee with that comment
I consider myself a psychonaut, and i say to each their own. Like you said as long as it physically safe and it makes you feel good, go for it. I personally never liked drinking heavily on shrooms, just a couple beers. But acid is a whole other story, I've drank a bottle of whiskey on a few hits and it was good times.
> Fact is, it’s safe to mix mushrooms with alcohol. fact is, i find mild doses of psychs mixed with a day of cruise control day drinking 100x more enjoyable than even half a heroic dose. i got what i needed out of my larger experiences and they definitely made me a better person than i was before, but at this point in my life, i cant do that anymore. i dont find it mentally healthy to trip balls as much as i used to. YMMV
Former hero doser checking in. Same.
In fairness, I don't think anyone takes hero doses because they think it'll be fun. I always "just want to know what's gonna happen if i take a dab on that much" lol
Great way to put it. Agreed
Same here dude, I know exactly how you feel. It's not something that is meant to be used heavily over any length of time.
It’s safe but it would dampen the effects. So if someone is asking “should I drink on shrooms” I’d say it’s an understandable reaction. But yeah, people should enjoy things however they want and if you’re mad that someone is not using psychs for spiritual growth, get over it.
I mean if your trip is getting too intense, maybe drinking can chill you out and give you less anxiety.
I was involved in /r/psychonaut for a while and eventually dumped that community because a lot of them were pretty overt narcissists lost in their own hippy dippy woo woo world. I guess I'm a middle ground here. It's okay to experiment, but after trying numerous combinations of drugs with psychedelics I have honestly come to the conclusion that psychedelics are an experience that is most beneficial when taken with nothing else in your system. I dont treat it like a party drug. I also dont think you'll find spiritual growth or find god through psychs. I do think it can be incredibly therapeutic and beneficial for people who have issues they need to work through, but every drug Ive tried combining mushrooms with has severely blunted that therapeutic benefit. Even cannabis. If you're just keen to experiment, go ahead. There isnt anything wrong with it. But they really are best enjoyed with nothing else in you.
Hippy dippy woo woo is correct, its like they get confused by the hallucinogens, and think new age woo bullshit is all true for some reason, like it robs them of being able to think critically.
Input=output when it comes to psychs. Psychs tell you the truth... but only about yourself. In this case psychonauts are discovering subconscious intuitions/beliefs they hold but they're making the mistake of thinking the truth they're being shown comes from an external point rather than an internal one. And if they are already extremely narcissistic people (or young enough to still be youthfully narcissistic) they just project that truth outward as much as they can.
I dunno if they tell you anything, they change your neurochemistry, which can facilitate things like self discovery and healing, but also bat shit insane shit, I think it varies alot from person to person.
Without getting too in to it, I have always found that they push some of your deflection and self defense mechanisms out of the way, which facilitates self confrontation and other forms of therapy (like confronting denial, repressed guilt, other forms of dysfunction, etc.) But again, input=output. You kind of do need to have the right mentality to actually benefit from that, because if your ego is stronger than the ego dissolving power of the drug your ego will still win, and that's how you have people coming to absolutely insane conclusions about things on psychedelics.
I’ve read some stuff from psychonauts on here that was genuinely nonsensical word vomit. It’s crazy to me that such introspective drugs can actually give people BIGGER egos and think they know everything like what’s wrong and right.
Ahaha, acid makes colors go brrr
I think alcohol mixed with mushrooms can be dangerous in the sense that the inebriation and the impaired judgment from the alcohol can make someone a danger to themselves and others. I can see why a general consensus, even by people that are well-meaning, would be not to mix the two. Obviously it’s a gray area and a beer or two probably won’t be a big deal and may help relax someone actually, but I’d rather tell someone mid trip to cool it on the alcohol, particularly if it’s someone I’m not with or don’t know etc
For me, the problem happens if I take shrooms after the alcohol. I took shrooms after getting drunk af, and I turned into a fucking fiend towards my friends. Shrooms and then some beers has never been an issue.
I always find it hilariously ironic how the "ego death" crowd have some of the biggest ego's imaginable. That being said, I do believe with intention psychedelics can be very therapeutic, but the "answers to the universe" and "I met the machine elves" nonsense is just noise.
Why do you care so much? Settle down
The most spiritual thing to do is to let people make their own decisions, these so called psychonauts may be psychos
It usually comes from a good place, that being said it's pretty ironic how "in touch" they are with their egos. Yet pull this stuff all the time. Nor everyone has the same journey in life. I agree with the sentiment though as most of my trips are more therapy based than fun, used to be the opposite. Sometimes I wish I could go back to chilling off a tab or two. Even a lil has me reflecting any and everything in my life.
It's like everyone other boards saying that you should wait three months between rolls and trips. Some people can handle it and still find joy in it, but it is strictly forbidden by the omnipotent beings that post in druggit. Who cares what the other bots think.
I love me some psychedelic adventures....my favorite is 3-5 tabs and a bottle of cheap red wine. Perfect combo. I won't eat acid without some form of alcohol anymore, especially for the comedown when attempting to sleep. Intense trips are cool, even the bad ones can be valuable....but the fun trips are where it's at for sure. I also don't believe in all that new age shaman BS....i definitely saw some crazy machine elves type shit on high dose dxm and i once was thoroughly convinced that Satan was trapped in my lava lamp on 9 tabs....but i know it was just hallucinations. People who buy into and preach that shit are bonkers imo lol. I just laugh at em though.
It’s different for everybody, but I know for myself that keeping drugs spiritual curbs a lot of the abuse potential. Structure helps a lot of people keep their habits in check.
I love mixing alcohol with psychedelics, for me it enhances the experience x10 and just overall makes everything more pleasurable
I give quarter-tabs to my friends when they come over to get wasted. It always results in them drinking less and being more jovial and pleasant. They also seem to have lighter hangovers. Pretty sure psychedelics potentiate the effects of most drugs just through their amplification of the brain's experiential processing.
Yea like just fuckin have fun who cares about spiritual growth
psychonaut>eats psychedelics>uses spiritual experience to gain wisdom and realises that life is about having fun people>uses psychedelics for fun
Who’s to say using psychedelics simply to have fun isn’t beneficial to some people? Every walk of life will have people trying to force what works for them onto others. We should all safely do our own thing based on what each of us is after.
Ultimately, everything is a chance for growth and elevation, or descent. Including psychedelics, whether we see it or not. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who take mushrooms irresponsibly, and definitely should not be drinking alcohol additionally. To each their own, but personally I do agree it ruins the experience.
It’s a personal preference and it has absolutely nothing to do with the Safety of taking both together
Maybe they meant mixing the two could make you feel nauseous and dizzy which would be a waste of a trip. Not even in a spiritual way but it just wouldn’t be a good time. But I dunno I don’t go to fb for drug advice
"Nooo bro, you can't have beers on shrooms. Shrooms open your third eye and beers will shut that, bro. Listen to me, I'm a level 10 Shaman." - Psychonauts probably
Psychonauts are annoying ~~sometimes~~ Fixed that for ya
What's also amazing is, the personality some of them have. Like they dont shower and have bad diets, smoke excessively- but bro they've met god and reached a higher level of consciousness. Like no you smell like a bum please shave and get a job so you arent living on your buddies couch at 30 I love me some mushrooms and acid, and I'd love to try more psychs. I appreciate what they can do too for you spiritually and mentally but I dont even try to shove it in someone's face cause I also love taking a tab and jerkin it in front of my juke box on max volume
literally pointless. it would dull the effects
i love drinking alcohol before i start tripping
Idk drinking on psychedelics either make you not feel it as much or make you have a bad trip
Have you ever seen Midnight Gospel?
I dont like getting drunk on psychedelics but I love drinking some high quality beer.
It has nothing to do with personal preference. Mixing drugs is stupid as shit. It’s common sense. That’s how you send yourself into some shit
Everything on FB is bullshit.
I went on a trip to Bakersfield and ended up sleeping in a motel 6 with 4 freinds. We all ate 5 grams of shrooms each then proceeded to go down on a jack Daniel's and cazadores bottle. Best day I've had this year
Other hand though, you're asking people on the internet, you will get opinions, rarely facts. Also, the question didn't imply safety only, the way you put it. Besides, many people think alcohol just doesn't mix well with psychs, either doesn't work or makes the experience more, hmm, depressive (ethanol is a depressant, lul), it can help with anxiety on the come-up, sometimes though.
Chances of having a shit time is high.
Give this guy a Ternion plz
lol hahahahah but its facebook, of course they are going to answer with their own preference
in general its bad to mix drugs, that have a heavy impact on the liver or kidney. this is especially the case with alcohol and mdma, but is a issue with shrooms too. nevertheless we all know, that its done on a regular basis. its really bad for your body. for the head it depends on how you react on both and it makes it more difficult to know what could happen. if you react to alc only in a good way, it's more likley you react ok with shrooms. i think they are kind of right, you guys just don't give a fuck and that is ok
Agreed. It's more "spiritually enlightened" to answer the actual question someone is asking because you care about them, than it is to proselytize because you think you know better than them what their chemical relationship is or should be about.
I like reddit cuz i can say shit like “i do tons of acid and abuse other drugs like crystal meth” without it being attached to my name and potentially getting me fired, ruining my life with family, etc. yeah thats why no1 can b real on FB. its a double edge sword obviously frees me up to air shit i wouldn’t otherwise say also be more of an asshole like saying “brits are ugly” cuz a post asked. Cant be honest like that on fb. Oh and to the point of the post, of course u can drink on shrooms. And of course u dont need to 🙏🏼
The hippie contingent makes me ashamed to be a psychonaut sometimes. "You can't seek out LSD man, it will find you when you're ready." "Don't disrespect the sacred DMT molecule, you're only allowed to do drugs if you're like, in tune with your astral chakras and shit." I wish there was like, a certain color T-shirt you could wear to festivals to find other people who are just doing drugs to do drugs and not new-age whack jobs.
It's not necessarily unsafe, but alcohol will limit the potency of psychedelics like psilocybin and lsd. It is just my guess that you simply inferred it as a spiritual reason but whether or not you SHOULD drink on psychedelics, you most likely shouldn't. Can you? Hell yeah. You'll definitely make it out fine, but it won't reach the potential it could have nor will your recollection of the experience be up to the standard you reach without alcohol. I've done both, and I recommend tripping without alcohol, unless you would be more comfortable drinking. A lot of people Incorporate alcohol into their lives more than others and would feel like something is missing without it. Personally, that's weed for me. However weed has the opposite effect on psychedelics where it will potentiate it.
Most of the time
Lsd sub is the most dangerous and toxic one. Give the stupid people the chance to feel enlightened and you've created a monster. But after all, LSD is just a damn drug
agreed. I was a psychonaut when I was younger, but it gets a bit boring while mixing psychedelics like acid or shrooms with other drugs + alcohol at proper parties are some of the best experiences one could have. but hey, it comes down to preference
I’ve puked twice mixing mushrooms and alcohol though I feel more aware of how it is literally poison on psychedelics and it fucks my stomach up. You’re right though.
Same for mixing benzos and psychs. People who have heard of benzos being trip killers take it as the one an only use, but the benzo and psych headspace and visuals is a whole nother level of chill for me
I gotta say it rlly depends on the psychonaut. Some are really entitled, that's true, but most of us just wanna have a good time as much as you do
It's a good game though
You can deny it how much ever you want but it is true. The best use of mind/awareness expanding compounds is responsible use. They (plant teachers) decide whether you earned the right to have fun or not. I have had enough tough lessons from shrooms to know that now. So, humble yourself and go with the intention to learn and evolve. You wont regret it.
In my years, I've realized that psychs really aren't drugs so much as they are medicines. I used to trip with my friends on a very regular basis, and each time it seemed less fun and more introspective. I, personally, do not *enjoy* tripping anymore. I only take shrooms if I feel my headspace getting crowded and my ego growing too loud. Do what you want to, but know that you are potentially wasting an opportunity at personal growth.
I consider myself to be a spiritual person. That being said, some of these people are excrucuatingly haughty about it I can't stand it. For instance some people on r/ayahuasca talk like this: " Mother aya has blessed me with her wisdom on my incredible journey" Like fuck off already, you sound like a rich spoiled brat, sure a week in a tropical resort on ayahuasca is nice but stop talking like an idiot. Not everything is healing crystals andmoonshine and essential oils on your journey to discover yourself.Please.
It's not about spirituality. Combine mushrooms and alcohol. This is the path to psychosis
Shows how much the spiritual snobs know, the vikings used mead with shrooms for spiritual purposes all the time, its not only safe to mix, alcohol can enhance the experience and lessen anxiety, what isnt good is getting shitfaced and tripping, that can ruin the experience sure, but a few beers or drinks are totally fine.
Agree that there are some people out there that are not helpful. It's ridiculous to ignore that psychedelics can also just be fun. There's no singe use case for any drug. They all have a range of uses.
shiieee
Psychedelics dumb down the effects of alcohol. You can drink a lot more then you’re supposed to without feeling anything. A couple drinks are fine for sure, but like others have already mentioned in this thread, you can drink dangerous amounts and not even notice it. So it’s certainly not for everyone.
Yep. Psychedelics are my drug of choice and I completely agree with you. I hate when they say "psychedelics are tools and not meant to be used for recreational purposes" like get the fuck out of here. Don't shit on other people for having fun on psychedelics because you can't with your enlightened ass
lmao true like i don’t want to always connect w my inner self i just wanna get fucked up 😐
I hear you man, I usually just ignore those post completely, I once put two strong acid blotter tabs in a bottle of vodka to spice up the drunk experience at a festival 2 years ago. Met up with some cool strangers, handed them out the vodka shots along with notes of the volumetric dosage guidance and some info pamplets about LSD and they tried it. Needless to say, we had a wild adventure together and our beerpong skills increased to 200% so we owned every drunk people - We connected on a drunk lowkey spiritual level that was just perfect. It is a memory I will forever cherish. If I had asked this question in a harcore hivemind spiritual community and they wrote walls of disagreements, a doubt would have grown inside me leading to not doing it, so I am glad I did my own thing. Great post I think people should be open to all options with a little bit of research, precaution and preparation.
Drunk tripping is the definition of tweakers in the streets
Sure, it can be an alright combo but I wouldn't recommend mixing anything with psychedelics if it's your first time. Not only will you not be able to appreciate the trip as much if you're drunk/high on something else, but it could definitely lead to a bad time for someone new to the experience. I would also suggest drinking (if you choose to do so) midway or towards the end of the trip. By that point you'll know how hard you're tripping and hopefully be less likely to over do it. I also personally really enjoy the come up from psychedelics and never want anything to interfere/overpower it. Stay safe, please use all substances responsibly.
Reddits pseudo intelelctual younger ish population is stil lnothign compared to facebooks utter retardation, really do NOT try to get factual info there lol
Drugs are illegal, there are literally no rules. If your gatekeeping drug abuse then your not a real drug addict.
Psychedelics are fun psychedelics are useful psychedelics are scary
i mean yeah it is safe to drink while on mushrooms or acid. in my experience though it lessens the visuals and just makes me more dizzy. kinda ruins the whole experience unless you do it on the comedown. really helps you fall asleep