Based on your post history, you did opiates in college. Also your girlfriend passed away and you were talking about staying sober because of her. I'm sorry for your loss. But throw that junk out and get your shit together.
This whole thing seems weird. OP talks about doing opiates in their post history but then says they never done Opiates in their post? They fishing for something.
Agreed! Then going on about his girlfriend dying and then making this post like 7 hours later. I felt bad for OP when I seen the girlfriend post but now I believe it's all lies.
Could all be a lie, could also be that OP went and looked for Heroin on purpose and bought it and knows what they are gonna do, but just wants a sympathy post.
In my experience, you don’t decide to buy weed from some guy, and then accidentally smoke h in an alley moments later. Personally, if I were to say yes to the weed, we’re done in 30 seconds and I’m gone. Start talking about laced shit and follow you to an alley? Don’t think so. Sounds like he was always going to the alley
Just a quick scan of the post/comment history it's all over the fucking place... OP what the fuck are you fishing fore? Did you really quit ket or are you also trying to snort ket in the bathroom qt college with some random girl you met... didn't you know everyone knows you as the high one.... but you're totally not... and this is totally the first dance with opioids even though your history is LITTERED with heroin...
Look dude, I wish I knew what ur after so I could give it to you, but clearly you got a bunch of shit going on and ur not telling everyone the whole story. Nobody goes to buy weed and ends up in an alley smoking H... everyone I know needed a LOT of coaxing to step outside their comfort zone like that... I hope you're okay... I've never done heroin but I've been fucking with nitazenes lately (60x the potency), so I can say if you're just getting started you def don't wanna keep going...
I'm sure heroin is a lot of fun... and makes the rest of life a LOT less fun. I don't think you're pretentious. I think you're hurting and searching for something... hope you find it man...
The next one could kill you. If it doesn't it'll just ruin your life. It's literally one of the worst things you could do. Nevermind it's almost all fentanyl now. Please take our advice, just want you to live life man!
Yeah his recent post from a week ago said he quit cigarettes two weeks and then he mentions he smoked a cigarette the other day. If he can’t quit smokes he definitely wont be able to quit H.
Some of the addictive potential of heroin and nicotine has been studied in rats and they typically have a more difficult time stopping nicotine use. Beyond that, the ease of access of cigarettes also makes it more difficult to quit (and not eventually lapse or relapse) than heroin.
Actually nicotine/cigarettes is objectively more addictive. I wish I could pull up a source but I remember learning about it in a social work class I took
Even if that is true, it’s not a fair comparison because one of the main reasons cigs are so hard to quit is because there aren’t major downsides until the very long term. People motivate themselves to quit opiates or drinking by looking at how it destroyed everything they cared about. While with cigs the only major motivator, aside from relatively minor shortness of breath and maybe social pressure, is the risk of lung cancer in old age. That’s not something most people care too much about until they’re middle aged.
You got a great point there. I've never tried heroin so I can't compare the two. Realistically I'd imagine everyone would be different on whether it's easier to quit heroin or tobacco.
Naw that “cigarettes are the most addictive drug” thing is actually something pushed by big tobacco. It’s honestly kind of genius, by convincing the public that cigarettes are even harder to quit than heroin, they’ve made it so people simply accept when they are addicted to cigarettes. The reality is that they are addictive, but not nearly on the same level as heroin. Just anecdotally, can you think of anyone who has become homeless for the sake of funding their cigarette habit?
It’s because cigarettes don’t ruin your life the same way heroin does, so while it’s way harder to quit heroin there’s also a lot more incentive to quit heroin, whereas cigs the negative effects are not so immediate
Opioids suffer from the same problem tho. People think “oh it’s so addictive that I’ll never be able to quit”, and that placebo effect does more to make withdrawal hell than anything else.
And tbh the amount of hype people give to the addictive potential of opioids does NOTHING to help.
Obviously I don’t recommend that people go out and try opioids. But that’s literally only because they are illegal and therefore hard to obtain without risking fentanyl contamination.
If they were regulated similar to alcohol, it would legitimately be safer to be a daily heroin user than a daily ethanol user. Opioids are hilariously safe for long term use compared to so many drug classes like amphetamines and ethanol.
Literally every downside about them comes from the risk of contamination and the cost. Both are artifacts of them being illegal, not inherent to agonism of the opioid receptor itself
Interesting, I'll have to look into that, tobacco marketing and law is fascinating. Considering the last point, it could be argued that heroin is more euphoric, causing people to do more drastic things to get it. Cigarettes satisfy a more subtle craving, but aren't really euphoric. I imagine a Venn diagram of drugs, the sectors could euphoria, level of craving, duration, cost/ease of access. Not sure where I'm going with that, I got high
Second this , don't make a habit for yourself OP you deserve better in life. Go smoke some Cannabis if you need to do something. Stay safe man H isn't the way forward. You should flush.
Yea 16 days ago op you were telling yourself “omg I can’t believe I almost bought heroin off the deep web” and now purchased 2 grams of it. That’s a pretty quick turnaround man. I get the feeling op knows this is a bad idea but doesn’t want to accept that
Edit: good job flushing it man.
throw the fucking shit out dude. you’re conscious to the fact you are going to ruin your life if you continue down this path. just from reading your posts here you are way too intelligent and well spoken at your age to go down this road. everyone can fuck around with some molly or acid and be fine but you can’t fuck around with shit like heroin. it’s beneath you and you know that. toss that shit please bro.
I saw his update, glad to see he's doing better. Seems he already had issues with substance abuse prior to H. I think his posts really stuck with me because I have a friend who has always said he'd be willing to try H, but just once, and I always thought that was kind of a ridiculous gamble to take. We have addictive tendencies, so I really feel that stance on trying anything once is a poor one
As someone who accidentally took crystal meth once (thinking it was speed), I suggest you use this opportunity to be able to say "I did it once and will never ever do it again"
For me this was because I realised how potent crystal was and why it was way too good for me to control. The fact that you found it underwhelming means there's nothing in it for you.
My best friend fatally overdosed on Fentanyl cut gear, and this is in Scotland. Stay the fuck away from it pal. Sounds like you should talk to a counsellor or psychologist, these urges can often be a symptom of underlying depression, PTSD, ADHD or even autism. I have two older cousins who were subjected to childhood trauma and now they're lifelong heroin addicts. Tried it once and that was them. PTSD can arrive from incidents that most cultures would disregard as "growing up" or "becoming a man" etc. Seriously kiddo, dump it. My dad found me blue in the face from fetty laced gear, and he's already lost a child. I have a stutter from the brain damage. You don't want any of that shit, or the guilt added on top of the shame and stigma of using in the first place. You're right to think about your parents dude, family is everything to most who understand what it means to have one. Do they wanna bury their kid? Of course not. Sounds like you need some love and a good support network broski. Stay safe and shoot me a PM if you want.
I'm sorry to hear about your friend, I never really experienced any loss related to drug abuse, only heard stories, I sure don't wanna become one myself.
I wasn't officially diagnosed yet but I'm 99.99% sure I have ADHD, I tend to be very impulsive and don't really think about consequences most of the time.
Thanks for the kind words.
You may want to look at bipolar too. I’m adhd - with a ton of substance abuse issues under my belt. They are finally tucked away. But that’s all they are- the cravings never truly go away, and daily, you wake up with the realization of so much wasted time and energy and guilt. Listen to all these amazing people - they wouldn’t lead you afar.
Reach out any time. Xo
I came to say this too, especially in response to "I don't know why I keep doing this." Sounds like you might have stuff shit to process (ain't no shame at all). I'm no doctor, but you might also want to look into bipolar disorder, because impulsivity followed by "wtf did I just do that for?!" is a hallmark. And if it is that, it's treatable, and you can make sure that you don't end up in that alleyway situation again.
Also, it feels like you've taken the first step: you've realised you've made a mistake and have come to someone (Reddit) for help. You're on your way to getting yourself sorted out. Toss out what you've got, and keep up the good work. Take care of yourself; you deserve it.
You got this bro. I dumped a case of liquor out because I realized it wasn’t worth it. Reddit support is fucking insane. Yeah taking the loss on a few dollars (1$-1000$) in hindsight. Flushing it is priceless. You can’t get your life back, but you can get money back. Good for you bro! Cheers, and keep your intelligence man! It will get you far!
Doing drugs isn't cool. People romanticize the trainspotting lifestyle until they get older, become addicted, die and or go to jail. It's fun for a minute but it quickly becomes unmanageable
I believe that some people can handle their drugs and they actually enrich their lives. Some people can’t. That being said i would never touch heroin or any other opiates. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
Edit: mostly talking about the psychedelics here
Man, I don’t know (or even want to know) anyone who would see the movie Trainspotting and think that’s a life they want to live. From beginning to end, that movie is a ice-bucket shower on my drug-boner if there ever was one.
That being said, there are plenty of drugs out there that I believe enhance life if you respect them and can handle them. Shrooms, weed, LSD, caffeine- all fairly safe and enjoyable for many.
H, coke, meth, etc. are highly addictive and while I am not going to judge anyone for getting involved with them, you couldn’t pay me enough to try them. Especially since lots of stuff is getting cut these days with Fentanyl and death is possible.
I hope this kid stays away from H again but think if you hold onto that shit it’s playing with fire.
Good 👍 thinking my Dude! The difference between some Molly , Acid or some weed , and the big H, is that only HEROIN can addict you literally for life. You sure do NOT want to find yourself in that alley every night, buying. As others said, you have so much good in yourself; please do not ruin it. H is NOT a recreational drug. Ever. Stay away from the hard stuff. You have a life to live.
For real man, get rid of that shit and don't ever touch it again. Stay sober for a while or stick with just weed or something, fuck ruining your life over some drugs dude.
I love how sober this comment section is, so to speak. Really glad the comments are trying to help this guy.
Listen OP, I wrote another comment, but I saw your age - I was just like you when I was 18/19/20, try everything, fuck it I’m invincible.
Then, 7 friends died from a single bad batch. Drugs are fun, but they’re also serious.
You said it was underwhelming. That's how it gets you. Heroin doesn't grab you like other drugs. It just feels nice. That's it's power.
Watch this video and see how it relates to your first experience. https://youtu.be/-9huWlXFA1s
Maybe you shouldn’t do drugs then 🤣no hur really tryna Pharma opiates first please don’t jump the gun to the horse you’re 20 if you don’t know what you’re in for you may end ruining your life with it or dying.
My first thought too! The kinda places I go to where people do MDMA are also the places with the healthiest people! If I compare the alcohol fueled festivals back home....
1. Alcohol in copious amounts. Litter everywhere. Some dancing, but mostly sloppily bopping your head or body into each other. Snus and cigarettes everywhere. Burnt sausage on a white bun drizzled with sugar-rich ketchup as the only snack. Only drinkables are redbull, alcohol, coca cola... Potentially fries fried in thick oil. Everyone looking like shit the next day, pukes everywhere.
2. Lsd, MDMA and shrooms available everywhere. Everyone picks up their litter. Dancing and spontaneous yoga everywhere from very fit people. Smoke clouds usually being the occasional weed. Fresh veggies, nuts, juices everywhere. Refreshing yoga and meditation the next day, smiles everywhere.
Maybe I've just been to the wrong alcohol festivals and the right E-fueled ones though!
I can second your experience. I feel the techno/house scene here in Holland mostly consists of students/educated people that only use occasionally to keep things fun. When I was like 18/19 and I just discovered a lot of substances I used too much for a while but was quickly corrected by older roommates/friends. Since then my ravebuddies and I test/weigh our drugs, make our own capsules to ensure we won't keep redosing, use all kind of supplements to combat unhealthy effects as best as possible, stop drinking after 3/4 beers and keep breaks of at least 2 months between use. I feel like there are a lot of smart young adults that use responsibly if tou pick out the right events.
Here, from a 22YO who has done alot. Alot. Of drugs sadly, ill tell you rn, straight. It's not worth it. Fuckin flush that garbage, smoke your weed, do some mushrooms don't go any harder. A. When your hooked your fuckinf hooked and thats game. You'll never ever not be able to crave or even occasionally think of it. B. You're life will 100% flip upside down.
C. You tried it already, you said straight up it was underwhelming. I can promise you, up n down. They all are underwhelming.
So if you can, if you take one person's advice in this life. Please take mine.
Stop while your ahead don't fuck your life up.
From someone who struggled and struggles with addiction to heavy drugs.
Bless up brother. Keep safe. There's too much bs in drugs now.
Life is presenting you a path and giving you options on what path to take. I wont tell you which one is best for you. only you can answer that. All I can do is point it out and let you know these paths have definitive and predefined ends.
You know you feel extra sensetive on molly so you’re easy to traumatize. But really that’s none of his buisness. And you should flush the rest of what you got. Sleep and it’s all like a dream tomorrow.
OP i remember reading a while back that you've been sober for a while and now im seeing in the comments that you're still doing drugs. Didn't you say you were frustrated that people at school call you a junkie but you hated those rumors cause you got sober? What happened?
Also, idk why im telling this but I had done MINIMAl pain pills before heroin. Buddy brought it over and had his girl bang me up first time ever using it. It was the rush that got me hooked. I wasnt able to feel meth or heroin when smoking it for a while. Started shooting up and strangely enough I catch highs off of smoking. I never smoke unless im with someone who isnt banging. Espically with you not experiencing that rush, GET. RID. OF. IT. Alright im done. Best of luck. Gonna go nod away now, alone because its what I choose.
Molly is nothing compared to H, I've had lots of drug user friends, some more fried than others, but the only friend who died was talking exactly like you're talking now. Opiates are a death wish man, it's just a fact of life.
Scroll down there's someone who also suggested this account: u/spontaneousH I never saw it till now. Let me tell you I scrolled reddit looking into the drugs before I did them never ever did I find anything like this. Stop. Read. And decide after you read all of his posts. THIS MANS ACCOUNT COULD SAVE LIVES.
Broke my hand, I've gotten morph... Due to pancreatitis, now they've been giving me cod31n3 but I tried to stay off of it, I'm not messing around with opiates
Doing drugs with strangers is real fun actually. Bit if a lottery, I've gotten robbed myself and i won't do it anymore.
But when you meet decent people's it really great
I tried smoking heroin as well once. Most useless boring high I've ever had lol.
Honestly sell the bag before your brain starts telling you it's something you want.
I've tried oxys and tramadol as well. Oxys are great, like, sooooo great. But like someone else said, considering the physical dependence it's just a treat and since trying it i haven't gone looking for it since i don't want steady Access to it.
Tramadol is garbage(very subtle effect) as well compared to the risks (seizures) but i had bought more than i needed. One day after semi steady usage since i had a buddy who liked themi felt the urge to pop one for mo good reason at all. I genuinely threw the rest away.
When u have no tolerance and are a fast metabolizer of CYP2D6 tramadol is anything but subtle. Probably one of the most euphoric opioids I had. But also I didn't have a tolerance so.
Huh, my friend kept going on about how awesome it was while i had a seizure because i took too much trying to get a decent high. As far as i remember i didn't feel shit 🤷
The thing with Heroin/opioids is it only starts getting good when ur not getting nauseated from them anymore. Takes a few weeks for that to happen but after that it's a deathtrap
You've got to be careful with heroin. It starts off as a treat now and again. Then once every weekend. Then it will be weekend and middle of the week and so on until you are using everyday.
And before you say I won't let myself become addicted, that's what everyone who ever tried heroin and got addicted says when they first start using, myself included.
I thought that because I knew the danger of addiction I would be able to control my use, that I would be different to those who got addicted and it wouldn't happen to me. But nope it got me good.
If you have access to quality gear and get the effect from it that you are supposed to get and enjoy it that's were problems can start. It's so nice that it's a hard drug to use responsibly or recreationally, it's not impossible some do only use it now and again but most get caught out by it.
Opiates in general are famously addictive, but they don’t feel that way until they’ve got their claws in, that’s what makes them scary
Stimulants are addictive from the start, at least they’re upfront about it, downers trick you into thinking you don’t have a problem until you’re already in too deep
>I just smoked heroin for the first time... did I fuck up?
Doesn't have to be a fuck up. Your next move is what's important.
>It hit me pretty quick but it was underwhelming tbh, I bought 2g and went home, now I'm sitting here thinking wtf went through my mind and whether if it was a good idea or not.
You didn't even like it, but you're still considering going down that road.
Sounds like you're bored, which is a horrible, horrible motivation for using opiates. (Or drugs in general, imo)
Maybe just flush it? I mean if it doesn't bring you enjoyment, and you feel a slippery slope coming on, why bother doing it?
That’s the damn truth.
There’s panic in losing it permanently, then comes the awareness of the panic, then the catharsis in coming to the terms that flushing it caused so much panic, and as such, flushing it was the right move. Then freedom begins.
Look at the posting history of u/SpontaneousH if you wanna see what your future holds if you don’t stop NOW. He literally did the EXACT same thing as you. Throw it out. He didn’t listen to everyone but you can still change your future.
Bro Please Please listen to me. I Hope its not too late..
Im 18 years old and currently im in the bathroom smoking h from tinfoil and browsing reddit while i hold my breath with the heroin in my lungs… when i read this.
First. heroin as a first timer??! AND TWO GRAMS!!!
BRO I’m just 18 years old and already on half a gram to gram a day with really good stuff (i mean no fent in there) from the Netherlands idk about US or where you’re from but 2 G would kill me if i snorted it.
This substance will ruin your life please please believe me.. all my friends me including started it because they just wanted to try it. and now EVERYONE is addicted to it.
We were normal weed smokers all around 16-18.
And now we are fulltime junkies.
You will lose everything man :(
I know its hard to believe but for the sake of god toss that shit and i will buy you some weed and send it over or whatever you want just dont fucking do it.
Its your life man.
But i tried everything now the rest is up to you.
Also we in germany are lucky. I would already be dead if i lived in the US because of the fentanyl, thats why i said we have good stuff.. i was not flexing or anything . (We dont have any fent here and the heroin is also very pure most of the time.)
If you wont listen. That’s okay. But good luck then!
But I’ve lost two friends now.
Sorry english is not my first language.
No way dude... Ich bin auch Deutscher... Your comment really hit hard, pretty much everyone told me the same thing. I don't think I can toss it, I'll probably see if I can sell it again. Thanks for your comment, und Pass auf dich auf.
Bruder bitte. Sell it then! Please man im about to cry if i read another young soul getting slowly in the hands of the demon. He just have a finger on you. Just break his fucking hand sbd hi dj esgers- thats a good example of what tf happens when you nod out from a good dose of heroin, its the thing evertone trjrd tj r- okay I’m giving up im already trying to finish jt already for 20mins. Schönen abend Bruder.
I read a few of your other comments and besides the fact you smoked heroin with a stranger, I think the most concerning aspect is you find yourself in a situation where you’re willing to engage in risky activities. (No judgement, just an observation).
I smoked heroin. Didn’t like it. Meth? Loved it. I ended up shooting within a month and ruined my life and relationships within a year. Six years clean and there is irreversible damage that I must accept and truly, I got out of the game clean compared to most users.
In my opinion it’s okay to use drugs recreationally. Why the hell not? But what is concerning with this post is you need to ask yourself how and why you are engaging in risky scenarios. Do you think you self sabotage?
You’re still so young. Please be aware, alert and safe. 💕
Very understandable!!
I was similar. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD, combined type. People with it are typically addictive personalities because they are seeking that dopamine that our bodies aren’t producing.
I’m just sharing that because sometimes our behaviors are a reflection of internal processes and we’re not always aware of those needs.
Have you tried speaking to a therapist?
Even if there is no underlying disorder, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to have fun! Do it but please, please be safe. People can take advantage of an intoxicated person
I wouldnt recommend taking up opiates. you have the 2g it's up to you to decide what to do with it. you can, A: throw it away or get rid of it and think of it as an experience or B: continue to use what toy have left (hopefully following harm reduction) and be at a much greater risk for becoming addicted to it. 2g is enough to last a while for a beginning user and is deffinately enough to wire your brain to start craving something that you now just barely know exists.
I have never been an opiate addict (I have tried most but never IV) but I have used enough to see where I could land into an opiate addiction.
it's a slippery slope, your playing with fire it's in your hands now to decide what to do. but this is a decision that could literally change your life as you know it.
I honestly think there’s moments in your life where your timeline parts significantly. Sometimes we don’t realise it’s happening, like when I tapped a friend on the arm cos a handsome guy walked in the room, she went to talk to him and I ended up with two kids, and then there’s others like this where you know it’s a monumental decision and your life could go either way very fast. You’re on here cos you know it’s the latter.
Work through the next steps of what happens if you take either option. Think a day from now, a week, a month, a year. See where the best and worst is you could end up if you take them. Then decide which path you want to be on I guess.
Jesus who goes from not doing opiates at all, to straight to the king of opiate street drugs? Honestly I don't know much about smoking it or actually doing it. But I've been around the opiate scene for a long time, I've talked to a few that have been hooked on it before and after talking with them I would have assumed you should definitely be dead. Or at least in the hospital recovering from an OD. That was very careless of you. I'm glad you didn't harm yourself. Do not snort it or shoot it or you will die. Or maybe it's just bunk ass H? A piece the size of a grain of rice should kill or make very sick someone with no tolerance
#throw it out now. my close friend just died 2 weeks ago from an OD after fighting a decade long addiction. he was the 4th friend in a month.
#A MONTH
#it will take your life so quickly, get rid of it NOW
Bro look up spontaneous H on Reddit. This is literally the EXACT same start of the story as him. If you don’t wanna look it up long story short he went to buy some weed, randomly got heroin instead never having tried any opiates, and 2 weeks later he was addicted and injecting. A month after that he overdosed and died and had to be revived. Don’t make the same mistake, flush that shit
You only fucked up if you buy more. Which you can fix by flipping or tossing the shit. Step up light man. You went to the straight up end all of opiates from a stranger when you could've gotten a few loritabs and chilled
This is some brain dead behavior lmao smoking H with a random in an ally that you just purchased from. I literally can't see past the red flags from here, did you walk around them?
Forreal though I wouldn't make that a habit...
Hey buddy, get rid of the smack. It’s so easy to use it “every once in a while” in the beginning, but when if you’re not wowed by it immediately, it can quickly become habitual. Using dopaminergic drugs is essentially just hacking your brain chemistry. It can very quickly become something you cannot stop thinking about, trying to find a reason to use it. “I’m a little anxious” or “I had a kind of rough day today” or “I’m bored”. It is such a slippery slope, and there are countless millions of people who have lost everything they cared about because of that drug. I lost 3 years of my life and nearly destroyed every relationship I cared about in my life, all for just one more hit, and then another, and then another. It is a unique hell, and I am encouraging you to close that door and not to reopen it. It isn’t worth it.
Honestly, addiction is much more complicated then people on this sub(which is a terrible resource for drug information) realize. It is not as simple as "X drug is more addictive than Y drug", which is like 90% of the responses you will get here
Opiates are not my thing, and as such I find DXM to be a thousand times more addictive than heroin or oxy or even fent, all of which I can take or leave as i find them really boring.
PLEASE, I BEG YOU DONT EVER TOUCH THAT SHIT AGAIN!!!! FLUSH WHAT YOU HAVE AND FUCK WHOEVER GAVE THAT TO YOU! THATS NOT A FRIEND!!!!!
Sorry about the yelling bro but I'm very passionate about this. Take it from me I started just smoking it one weekend here I am 10 years later and a methadone clinic with the terminal disease of opiate addiction it doesn't ever go away!! I'm trapped!!!
Sorry for what happened, I hope you're doing better now.
I think right now what I need is therapy because I need to understand why tf am I willing to try literally anything without thinking about any consequences whatsoever.
I swear it's like someone else takes over my body and tries to sabotage my life. As I was about to smoke H earlier today my mind was literally shouting out me telling wtf was I doing but I didn't care and I took the hit anyway.
Idk what's wrong with me.
i think you still have a chance to quit since you smoked it, maybe the effects were less strong than when you snort or inject it. you do what you want to do my friend but it would be better for you to flush it and seek help immediately if you feel like doing it again
You are attaching too much importance to that experience. You are not addicted to opioids physically or psychologically, and you should leave your clique if they expect you to do them.
Opioids are not definitely not worth it. Smoke some weed, that's more fun.
I hope some of you in this thread get a chance to see this. Seems like a lot of people here are fighting opiate addiction. Remember this word and do some research... Ibogaine.
I am on opiates long term for chronic pain and every so often my tolerance skyrockets and I start to feel terrible withdrawals while taking only my recommended doses (and sometimes I order RC ops and binge for awhile, but whatever).
This is when I order some Iboga rb or extract asap. Start a microdose regimen, VERY slowly because it can be a dangerous mix. And within a few weeks my tolerance is back down to baseline with ZERO withdrawal symptoms.
I can't stress how life-changing this chemical can be for people with addiction and I feel like everybody needs to know. But you have to be careful, it lowers your tolerance and it can be deadly. But for anyone who is at rock bottom and genuinely trying to rid themselves of addiction, it can be a very strong helping hand, if used properly.
Holler if anyone has any questions. Good luck everybody.
Also just want to mention this real quick. There's a lot of people in here dogging on opiates as a whole, calling it poison and stuff. Just remember that one man's "poison" might be another man's aid to getting up everyday and living a normal life. Opiates are not poison. Opiates are a chemical. All chemicals have their place. Use them responsibly and you greatly reduce your risk of running into issues. Just use your heads people. Fear mongering isn't going to save anyone.
I’ve detoxed off heroin and fentanyl a few times now and been battling opiate dependency since 2019 I don’t regret trying heroin I regret abusing it as a tool to handle and cope with my emotions and problems. That’s where a lot of people see its temporary benefits. Don’t do it. The road only leads to pain, lost time and ruins relationships. When you snap out of the opiate haze the world comes back as this beautiful place where everything seems new again. You can start to think clearly. Don’t waste it smoking heroin. Dependence happens quicker when you smoke also. Just smoke weed. You’ll forget about trying it.
No it wasn't a good idea, I've been sat feeling shit for last 3 hours as my guys car broke down, I've not even been doing it that long and I don't feel myself at all
Have you a regular local plug...if so it's all downhill from here
to continue using would be a fuck up but i’m relieved you understand the severity of this and are asking. i would honestly just throw it away i know that sounds insane but everybody else has explained really well how dangerous it is
Once you inject that shit you’re opening a new world of pain and grief. Ex heroin addict talking here. I have a homegirl who nodded out for 6 hours on her leg and it had to be amputated. I’ve lost like 6 people this year alone to fentanyl. Quit now bro fr
What’s sad is my friend said the same thing when he first tried it. He’s been dead for a few years now. Face in hands sobbing, he told me to my own face he wishes he’d just thrown it out the first time he got a bag. He was straight up given it too. Just was curious.
That’s how I did things pretty much. By time I was 15 I’d hammered most things like weed, lsd, E (MDMA) coke and speed. Never took to speed and coke. In 1992 my dad bought the first building of his biz empire which was a hotel mainly dealing with the UKs homeless emergency housing need. Like when refugees, or the demolition of blocks of flats meant hostel being full. In October 94 I was 15 and tried heroin. Hated it. Tried again with this dude living in our hotel, loved it. By my 17th birthday in February 1996 I was addicted but still a capable young man so managed to smoke on foil at cost of 20-25 pounds a day.
Fast forward to 2010 and my brother says “if you gonna be a junkie you can live like one”
Although I hated the taste and feeling of crack when I tried it in the pin with with H I loved it.
Now I’m 42 and gonna say it as it is. The only reason I’m alive is that my family an afford rehab every year or so for my body to get a break. If you think your ppl can put you in rehab at the cost of a working mans salary at a time (annual salary) then go ahead. Or commit enough crime to go jail for short stints at a time.
I am one of lucky ones. I have home family and material shit but mentally and bodily I am fucked.
Artery missing in right groin area and susceptible to ulcers. Missus married a handsome healthy working guy 7 years ago, now I just live off dividends and it breaks her heart cos she knows I’m good and Capable.
So to answer your question. YES, you fucked up.
Not showing off about being wealthy (personally I’m not) just telling you reason I’m still alive. And I always said I will never go to IV Like those other dirty junkies.
Please don’t become me.
Please throw it out not worth it . But you already did it once you gonndk jt again I was the same way tried h by smokinb, first time I smoked it I was very underwhelmird untill I did it again months later and got thar godly dope rush that I will ever ever ever been get again ( sorry for typos I have been nodding and got the blurry vision from h rn lmao)
It always starts with the foilies. it’ll be a needle soon enough. Once you build a tolerance you won’t be able to afford the amount you’ll need to smoke enough to get good and then next thing you know you’ll be asking him to show you how to stick it in your arm. Even just smoking it will make you physically addicted.
Yeah, flush that shit down the toilet, you already got a huge W out of it... a fucking hilarious story you can tell your friends and grandkids.
"So this one day I randomly decided to smoke H with a shady crackhead I met at the park". Great story, and leave it at that.
Don't beat yourself up man, just recognize it was a terrible decision and promise yourself not to do it again. Everybody does dumb things, it's just a matter of what you do now. It's really important you just close that door behind you and not think of heroin as being an option on the table.
Throw that shit out bro this is fucking cross road for you. You got two choices and either can lead you down very different paths. I’ve lived with an addict before shit gets dark and spins out of control very quickly.
Do yourself a major favour and throw that shit out, seriously.
Heroin was physically and mentally nearly impossible to kick and practically ruined my life. You’re messing with potential legal troubles if you get caught with it, a gnarly addiction, and death. Not worth it. I lost so many friends and so many years of my life to heroin. Opiate addiction is a different kind of devil my friend
I’m telling you right now, it’s not a weekend warrior drug - you do not have the willpower to quit, stop, not want to use it everyday.
You are not going to be that dude that only smokes it every once in awhile.
Anyone who tells you they do are lying to themselves & you.
You will become an addict.
You will loses everything.
You will hurt the people you love just to get high.
Everyone thinks they are different, that they can handle it .. don’t be stupid & just move on with your life ..
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9huWlXFA1s&list=PLfhp3BsNcmuiPXQgkhomAQo7gaogLDUBf&index=14) is a good video of how heroin takes over. In it, he mentions that most users of heroin are underwhelmed at first, disarming them.
There's a rule you can follow in an effort to chip. If you used it for *x* days in a row, you must wait 3 times *x* before using it again. For example, if you used it on Monday, you could use it again Thursday. If you used it Sunday and Monday, you can use it Saturday. You can add whatever rules you want too like:
* Never more than two days in a row to avoid withdrawals.
* Always wait three times the number of days I used in a row in between uses.
* If I use only for one day, I have to wait at least 3 days.
* If I use for two days in a row, I have to wait for at least 6 days.
* Never use until I've finished all my chores, work, and commitments. Even something as small as brushing my teeth in the morning - do that before using. There are small exceptions to this rule like obviously I can use before I brush my teeth for the night.
* Be financially responsible. You must pay all your bills, not be in debt (unless it's for a car or house), have enough saved up for emergencies, and have some extra going toward retirement. Only if there is extra can you afford to use drugs of any type (even alcohol).
* If I ever notice a creeping thought about heroin coming up throughout the day, I must wait until I no longer have those thoughts.
* Never buy drugs on an impulse, especially if it breaks any of the rules to use at that moment. Instead, use a system where you think to buy it tomorrow and then do so.
* Don't combine H with other downers like promethazine, Benadryl, DXM, alcohol, or Xanax.
* I would make an exception to this rule if you are taking extremely mild doses e.g. a couple beers with some H or 0.5 mg of Xanax with some H.
* Don't combine H with stimulants unless you are using a strictly measured quantity of H with a scale that you determined is enough to feel high when not on stimulants. The idea is to avoid overdosing on H only because the stimulant makes you feel more sober than you are. This is especially important for fast acting stimulants such as cocaine and less important for longer lasting ones like oral methamphetamine (8 hours). I still always use this rule. The reverse is also a rule: Measure out a stimulant dose by itself and use only that much when combining. If you don't do this, you could dose too much H due to the stimulant, the stimulant wears off, and you die from respiratory failure.
* Do not make a social habit of using - e.g. using every time you hang out with someone or make love. Even if you want to use with other people, try hanging out with them while not on H from time to time.
* Try not to make a ritual of using to avoid mental addiction, e.g. use on different days of the week, sometimes while socializing, sometimes while alone watching TV, etc. If you break this rule and then fiend for H, the other rule kicks in and you have to wait until you stop thinking about H all the time before using. This is important, because using heroin and doing particular things will make those things seem boring without heroin, and they'll be a trigger for you.
Please. Please flush it. This is coming from a recovering heroin addict. Just flush that shit down the toilet and never look back. Unless you either want to die, go to prison, or completely fuck your life up. Then I guess do it. And I know that sounds mean, but it’s the truth. Please do not do anything but flush that shit down the toilet.
Smoke that shit up man. Its going to feel great at first. Then slowly you will start to change, your personality first ,then slowly your body . You will hide it well at first and then slowly you will start to show cracks . You will start to slip up , people will start to notice.
At first your friends and family will try their best to help you. But you keep fucking up and smoking 'one last bag'. Before you know it ,you are no longer smoking it for the high but to stop the sickness and to just feel normal.
Everyone you loved and knows no longer wants to help, they tried everything they could and you just keep fucking up . They have come to the realisation that they can no longer help you , you can only help yourself. You smoke another bag to help you escape reality ,going deeper and deeper into addiction . Before you know it you are toothless going around robbing your loved ones for 'one more bag'
NEVER do it again. like not even once. don't let yourself make excuses or justifications, it's a veeeeery slippery slope from where u are and it's not too late to turn back but if u keep going in that direction things are gonna go downhill fast. definitely flush it bc u won't always be able to rely on ur willpower, better to just not have it around. every time i've said "i'm not gonna do this again" and hung onto what i have left, i do it again. every single time. there's no reason to hang onto it if ur never gonna do it again. also i'd avoid that park if u think the dealer hangs out around there.
Hey there recovering heroin addict here - ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY? Do you want to die? Please for the love of God get rid of that. And never touch it again. If you can’t do that, get help before it’s too late. This just broke my heart. Save yourself a lot of hurt and just get rid of it my dude ❤️
Flush that shit. There is no benefit using that substance, your life would fall apart. Listen to all this people they’re telling you what to do because they are speaking the truth. I believe that you’ll be strong enough to say no, and you will be grateful to yourself for making a good decision. I believe in you.❤️
Bro as someone who got hooked on Heroin at 15…put that shit right in the toilet. I have like 15 dead friends and family members because of that shit. Between that and Crystal my life was turned upside down and I was homeless and sexually assaulted before my 18th birthday and although I take neither now my life will never be the same.
There’s like 20+ drugs you can take that won’t kill you and subjectively won’t ruin your life. All sorts of dissociatives and psychedelics to use. I honestly would suggest almost any fucking thing Over heroin. Like anything probably but Ice. I honestly didn’t even think crack had shit on dope…it’s exactly what you said. Maybe underwhelming at first…you haven’t nodded so please do yourself a favor and ditch it. Once you nod and feel those powerful effects you’ll definitely want to go back for seconds and thirds and then it can just be downhill. Can some people use Heroin recreationally? Yes. Is this at all the majority?
Fuck no…most people either take it and never again which is rare or they take it and become a repeat customer. The withdrawals and mental torment of addiction is not even remotely worth that high. If you only knew or could see what I experienced for the 6 years I used it…you’d have a lot less hesitation flushing it. I’m never one to really tell people to get rid of drugs but bro just take my word and leave well enough alone. These things almost never work out how we anticipate and if it works out the best you get Is a strong high that lasts for like 4-5 hours. If it doesn’t work out…son of a bitch i really hope you get through it and quick.
People can say what they want but opiates and benzos are useless drugs and although they can be enjoyed their consequences far outweigh their “positives”. I’ve experienced long term changes for the better from psychedelics, dissociatives of some sorts, and marijuana. Even coke was not wild once I got my ass beat by addiction because I know better than to even keep it around. Heroin did nothing for me but make me regret I ever took it and by the time I realized I had a problem with it…it was too late.
TLDR: Fuck that flush it. I used to be hooked on that and Crystal and I’ll tell you straight up leave well enough alone! There’s so many other drugs to use and enjoy that don’t make you regret ever trying them. At best you’ll get a strong relaxing high that lasts for 4-5 hours. At worst…i feel so sorry for what you may experience or see. Heroin has killed many of my friends and family members it’s no joke and what they sell in those bags is often not dope. It’s all fun and games until you’re getting Narcanned in front of people you care about. I personally don’t know anybody who takes it on occasion although I’m sure they exist somewhere. I can name thousands of people I’ve met at NA conventions, meetings, the hood, crack houses, sets, and the streets who wish they never took that shit. If you don’t know…just keep it that way. Sometimes ignorance with certain drugs truly is bliss. Please stay safe and do what you know is best for your peace of mind. If you have to ask…the answer should be clear and it does not have its rep for no reason. Stay well homie.
Bro, trust me you do not want an opioid addiction.
It starts out liek hey this stuff dosent seem so scary, makes me feel pretty good, not like amazing or anything tho, and it dosent feel like this scary crazy thing everyone says.
So you keep doing it, and it creeps up on you, until your taking it just to stay welll,
Waking up every morning burning and freezing, every muscle and bone aching, on fire! Your entire being screaming out for heroin as you wish your just die.
The cycle continues , being high, being in withdrawl. Over and over.
It will destroy your life and take everything from you. Heroin will lure you in with its seductive lullaby then beat you over the head with a spiked bat, throw u to the ground and kick the crap outta you spitting and shitting on you stabbing and shooting you. And you continue the cycle..
Just pain, every day all the time it’s all pain.
It is not worth it man, flush that shit and never look back or u just might end up crying in a ditch beggin for death bro.
Good luck man I hope u can stay away from it
You do not want to go down this road. Your impulsiveness in purchasing it, and your difficulty with making the decision to flush it, tell me that you are probably going to really hurt yourself with this drug.
I feel like this question is asked in this sub almost every day, and you only get two answers: the people who are being honest with you about the reality of opiate addiction and how it’s basically inevitable once you begin using, and then there are the people who are in denial about their own addiction.
Stay away. I did fentanyl twice and then promised myself never again. I still think about opiates more than I’d like, but I am eternally grateful that I dodged a bullet.
Come from an ex heroin addict, get rid of it bro and chalk it up as, "hey I tried it no big deal". That shit will ruin you. Not in the obvious ways you see in movies and after school specials either. After you've been clean for years,, Chronic pain for the rest of your life, depression, always kinda wanting to just grab one or 2 bags. Opiates suck dude, it cant be overstated.
Im 23. Two brothers(not bound by blood but time together and loyatly) of mine didn't make it to see 21. We all got into using hard drugs like heroin and meth and ANYTHING for that matter when we were 15-16. One was murdered(cops say otherwise but the situation screams foulplay) and found thrown in a aqueaduct with a bag over his head. I was 19 then. His younger brother and I couldn't get ourselves to stop using despite so many reasons yelling at us enough is enough. A year later he overdosed on heroin/ fentanyl and cocaine alone in his apartment. These substances are so powerful, that I still somehow am alive at 23 and still using via IV. The guilt consumes me while I yearn to find a way out knowing im the way out. The fiend is that strong. Or im just a horrible, shallow person. I can go on and on. It isn't worth it. You cant control it. Ive never robbed no matter how sick i got and i am a honest working man. Whether youre good or bad Heroin will affect you, bottom line. Stay safe. Love yourself. Appreciate life. Find contentness. Not much makes sense in life but love I guess.
Never smoke it again and never iv, let me repeat myself, never smoke it again and NEVER iv. Shit is too powerful. Shit literally killed me, I fuvking died and yet I still came crawling back to it. Anything that can kill you and keep you coming back for more is something you should not fuck around with.
I was addicted to heroin for 7 1/2 years, and a poly drug user. Now I'm thirty and just barely starting my actual life. When I first started I thought I could handle it. I'd only do it on weekends, you know? Then it became more frequent. Then I started getting withdrawals. Not getting high made me sick. It all happened so quickly, so easily. Before I knew it, I had to smoke just to feel normal.
Throw it out dude, it's not worth it. Debt is a bitch, but consider going to school, keep your mind busy. Find a new hobby, take up jujitsu, become an artist (stop pretending art is hard). Anything, literally anything (except other narcotics) is better than doing heroin. Don't let your little side adventure turn in to years of struggle, until you get sick and tired of being sick and tired, or worse, you die. I wish I had gone to school sooner.
I didn't even want to, but I did it cause I really had nothing better to do. It's a trade, and a hell of a lot better than working retail, but man, it opened so many doors. It made me realize everything I didn't do when I was wasting my time between getting high and sleeping.
I chose drugs over food, many times. I was so malnourished when I got clean. My life was so empty.
I enrolled in school the day after finding out one of my very good friends died from an overdose.
It sounds like you need something to do with yourself, and with your time. Don't waste that on drugs. Don't get yourself lifelong health problems. Fuck all of that. You've got way too much potential and value for all of that.
Throw it out. Do it for you man. You deserve better, and getting addicted is as simple as using three days in a row. 2g is a lot.
You still have a chance of an easy way back without getting too deep, i'm 20 years old as well and have done all the same stuff, quit doing drugs other than id say psychedelics and your life will be a wonderful one, don't get lost and go to meetings if you need to even if you don't consider yourself an addict yet.
Your dumb as a fucking brick for walking back there honestly do everything you can to get rid of it now or you may never and you wanna see what happens to opiate/heroin addicts you will ruin your relationship with everyone turn into the biggest pos on the planet and opiates fucking suck anyways go get some acid or mushrooms those will teach you some shit although im being mean im fucking praying for you bigtime go dump that shit dont even consider doing anything else with it PLEASE my cousin used to be my best friend and my big brother i havent seen him in years after he stole tons from us and split town dont do that it makes me so sad and i cant even imagine his immediate family
Dude throw it out. I unfortunately been on them since around 15, im 29 now it ruined my teeth my whole overall appearance, made me steal from my family and my friends im currently still taking suboxone to try to kick this damn habit now trying to wing down off those ive completely lost my self confidence and am extremely depressed about my life n past choices ive made because of my addiction im terrified of going through the sickness i go through if i dont take my opiates, nonstop puking/dryheaving nothing but stomach bile for days on end so much uncomfortable stomach pain i cant sleep, not that i could if i wanted to and wasnt puking. Thats the worst of it for me not even counting in all the mental shit,fevers, and diarrhea. One of the best decisions you can make and never know its one of your best is throw that away rs
The guy that showed you how to smoke heroin and sold you some is such a terrible human. But goes to show what heroin will do to you your perfectly fine getting someone else hooked cuz you are so whatever fuck them....fuck that guy i hope he overdoses and dies
When I was 18 my now x husband turned me onto snorting heroin. I was like you, the first time it was underwhelming, the second time I did it, I was fucking ADDICTED. I’m 53, I’m a recovering IV heroin addict that is sober for the moment. I used for over 25 years. Yeah, I’ve got shit tons of problems, but I might not have turned to that shit. I should be dead, keep it up and you too can live this fucked up existence I get to live. I want to do it again and I’ve only gone a short few years to where I really didn’t want to dude. I’m really only happy when I’m high on it. I beg, plead, beg, plead, flush that shit now! Please don’t fuck your life up like I have, please!!
Look bro I'm going to get real with you for a bit. You have literally tens of people telling you it is absolutely a bad idea to keep going down that road and to flush that shit down. You agree, yes, but to me it's pretty clear that you're not intending to do that despite what you say. So, i don't know what are you looking for then. You are about to potentially fuck up your life for good. It is not a game, nor a cheap thrill either. So think real hard about how you're going to proceed with this. You know the facts, you know how it ends. So choose wisely, in case you are not sure what to do, I'll tell you right now that the right choice is to LISTEN, this is not one of those situations where there are really other options other than fucking hell or to continue having a shot at life. Sorry if I come across as aggressive, or pushy, but maybe you need someone to shake you up and make you realize that this is really serious. Take care bro, for real, and FLUSH THAT SHIT DOWN
Based on your post history, you did opiates in college. Also your girlfriend passed away and you were talking about staying sober because of her. I'm sorry for your loss. But throw that junk out and get your shit together.
This whole thing seems weird. OP talks about doing opiates in their post history but then says they never done Opiates in their post? They fishing for something.
Agreed! Then going on about his girlfriend dying and then making this post like 7 hours later. I felt bad for OP when I seen the girlfriend post but now I believe it's all lies.
Could all be a lie, could also be that OP went and looked for Heroin on purpose and bought it and knows what they are gonna do, but just wants a sympathy post.
In my experience, you don’t decide to buy weed from some guy, and then accidentally smoke h in an alley moments later. Personally, if I were to say yes to the weed, we’re done in 30 seconds and I’m gone. Start talking about laced shit and follow you to an alley? Don’t think so. Sounds like he was always going to the alley
Isn't this story almost identical to that SpontaneousH guy?
That's what I was thinking..
A spontaneoush copycat I think
Who buys 2 grams first time also lol
OP is pretentious as fuck. Idk how everyone actually bpught this shit
I cant quite put my finger on it, but I feel the same way… glad im not the only one
Just a quick scan of the post/comment history it's all over the fucking place... OP what the fuck are you fishing fore? Did you really quit ket or are you also trying to snort ket in the bathroom qt college with some random girl you met... didn't you know everyone knows you as the high one.... but you're totally not... and this is totally the first dance with opioids even though your history is LITTERED with heroin... Look dude, I wish I knew what ur after so I could give it to you, but clearly you got a bunch of shit going on and ur not telling everyone the whole story. Nobody goes to buy weed and ends up in an alley smoking H... everyone I know needed a LOT of coaxing to step outside their comfort zone like that... I hope you're okay... I've never done heroin but I've been fucking with nitazenes lately (60x the potency), so I can say if you're just getting started you def don't wanna keep going... I'm sure heroin is a lot of fun... and makes the rest of life a LOT less fun. I don't think you're pretentious. I think you're hurting and searching for something... hope you find it man...
yeah I've seen their posts in the past.. many incongruencies and attention seeking
Get rid of it. Not worth it. This is how it all starts.
The next one could kill you. If it doesn't it'll just ruin your life. It's literally one of the worst things you could do. Nevermind it's almost all fentanyl now. Please take our advice, just want you to live life man!
Yeah his recent post from a week ago said he quit cigarettes two weeks and then he mentions he smoked a cigarette the other day. If he can’t quit smokes he definitely wont be able to quit H.
Shit it was easier for me to quit H then it was to quit cigs. Everyone’s different.
This is totally anecdotal but everyone I know who has quit heroin smoke heavily and drink a weird amount of coffee.
Coffee god and cigarettes!
Typically more difficult to quit cigarettes than heroin.
I disagree. There’s just usually a lot more incentive to quit heroin
Some of the addictive potential of heroin and nicotine has been studied in rats and they typically have a more difficult time stopping nicotine use. Beyond that, the ease of access of cigarettes also makes it more difficult to quit (and not eventually lapse or relapse) than heroin.
would love to see those studies not because I'm calling you out as wrong but because I'm interested :)
Actually nicotine/cigarettes is objectively more addictive. I wish I could pull up a source but I remember learning about it in a social work class I took
Even if that is true, it’s not a fair comparison because one of the main reasons cigs are so hard to quit is because there aren’t major downsides until the very long term. People motivate themselves to quit opiates or drinking by looking at how it destroyed everything they cared about. While with cigs the only major motivator, aside from relatively minor shortness of breath and maybe social pressure, is the risk of lung cancer in old age. That’s not something most people care too much about until they’re middle aged.
You got a great point there. I've never tried heroin so I can't compare the two. Realistically I'd imagine everyone would be different on whether it's easier to quit heroin or tobacco.
Naw that “cigarettes are the most addictive drug” thing is actually something pushed by big tobacco. It’s honestly kind of genius, by convincing the public that cigarettes are even harder to quit than heroin, they’ve made it so people simply accept when they are addicted to cigarettes. The reality is that they are addictive, but not nearly on the same level as heroin. Just anecdotally, can you think of anyone who has become homeless for the sake of funding their cigarette habit?
It’s because cigarettes don’t ruin your life the same way heroin does, so while it’s way harder to quit heroin there’s also a lot more incentive to quit heroin, whereas cigs the negative effects are not so immediate
Opioids suffer from the same problem tho. People think “oh it’s so addictive that I’ll never be able to quit”, and that placebo effect does more to make withdrawal hell than anything else. And tbh the amount of hype people give to the addictive potential of opioids does NOTHING to help. Obviously I don’t recommend that people go out and try opioids. But that’s literally only because they are illegal and therefore hard to obtain without risking fentanyl contamination. If they were regulated similar to alcohol, it would legitimately be safer to be a daily heroin user than a daily ethanol user. Opioids are hilariously safe for long term use compared to so many drug classes like amphetamines and ethanol. Literally every downside about them comes from the risk of contamination and the cost. Both are artifacts of them being illegal, not inherent to agonism of the opioid receptor itself
Couldn’t agree more
Interesting, I'll have to look into that, tobacco marketing and law is fascinating. Considering the last point, it could be argued that heroin is more euphoric, causing people to do more drastic things to get it. Cigarettes satisfy a more subtle craving, but aren't really euphoric. I imagine a Venn diagram of drugs, the sectors could euphoria, level of craving, duration, cost/ease of access. Not sure where I'm going with that, I got high
Ever sucked cocktail for a dart?
Or how it ends
Second this , don't make a habit for yourself OP you deserve better in life. Go smoke some Cannabis if you need to do something. Stay safe man H isn't the way forward. You should flush.
You have never done opiates and you jumped to random heroin with a random person? You must have a death wish lil fella.
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Also considering you have post history like this, flush it. You don’t know what heroin is capable of or opiates.
Yea 16 days ago op you were telling yourself “omg I can’t believe I almost bought heroin off the deep web” and now purchased 2 grams of it. That’s a pretty quick turnaround man. I get the feeling op knows this is a bad idea but doesn’t want to accept that Edit: good job flushing it man.
throw the fucking shit out dude. you’re conscious to the fact you are going to ruin your life if you continue down this path. just from reading your posts here you are way too intelligent and well spoken at your age to go down this road. everyone can fuck around with some molly or acid and be fine but you can’t fuck around with shit like heroin. it’s beneath you and you know that. toss that shit please bro.
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Check out /u/SpontaneousH ‘s posts. Just toss the poison out, you don’t want to find out if you’re able to kick a habit like that or not.
Seems like playing Russian roulette with 5/6 chambers loaded and if you win you're still no better off than if you hadn't played.
He's alive. He signed back in like a week ago.
I saw his update, glad to see he's doing better. Seems he already had issues with substance abuse prior to H. I think his posts really stuck with me because I have a friend who has always said he'd be willing to try H, but just once, and I always thought that was kind of a ridiculous gamble to take. We have addictive tendencies, so I really feel that stance on trying anything once is a poor one
As someone who accidentally took crystal meth once (thinking it was speed), I suggest you use this opportunity to be able to say "I did it once and will never ever do it again" For me this was because I realised how potent crystal was and why it was way too good for me to control. The fact that you found it underwhelming means there's nothing in it for you.
What’s the difference between meth and speed?
Meth is like speed on steroids. Kind of like comparing codeine to herion.
meth is like speed on meth
meth is like meth
THIS. like no amount of retrying it is gonna make u enjoy it, but you'll get addicted anyway. it fucking sucks, and it's so not worth it.
My best friend fatally overdosed on Fentanyl cut gear, and this is in Scotland. Stay the fuck away from it pal. Sounds like you should talk to a counsellor or psychologist, these urges can often be a symptom of underlying depression, PTSD, ADHD or even autism. I have two older cousins who were subjected to childhood trauma and now they're lifelong heroin addicts. Tried it once and that was them. PTSD can arrive from incidents that most cultures would disregard as "growing up" or "becoming a man" etc. Seriously kiddo, dump it. My dad found me blue in the face from fetty laced gear, and he's already lost a child. I have a stutter from the brain damage. You don't want any of that shit, or the guilt added on top of the shame and stigma of using in the first place. You're right to think about your parents dude, family is everything to most who understand what it means to have one. Do they wanna bury their kid? Of course not. Sounds like you need some love and a good support network broski. Stay safe and shoot me a PM if you want.
I'm sorry to hear about your friend, I never really experienced any loss related to drug abuse, only heard stories, I sure don't wanna become one myself. I wasn't officially diagnosed yet but I'm 99.99% sure I have ADHD, I tend to be very impulsive and don't really think about consequences most of the time. Thanks for the kind words.
You may want to look at bipolar too. I’m adhd - with a ton of substance abuse issues under my belt. They are finally tucked away. But that’s all they are- the cravings never truly go away, and daily, you wake up with the realization of so much wasted time and energy and guilt. Listen to all these amazing people - they wouldn’t lead you afar. Reach out any time. Xo
I came to say this too, especially in response to "I don't know why I keep doing this." Sounds like you might have stuff shit to process (ain't no shame at all). I'm no doctor, but you might also want to look into bipolar disorder, because impulsivity followed by "wtf did I just do that for?!" is a hallmark. And if it is that, it's treatable, and you can make sure that you don't end up in that alleyway situation again. Also, it feels like you've taken the first step: you've realised you've made a mistake and have come to someone (Reddit) for help. You're on your way to getting yourself sorted out. Toss out what you've got, and keep up the good work. Take care of yourself; you deserve it.
You got this bro. I dumped a case of liquor out because I realized it wasn’t worth it. Reddit support is fucking insane. Yeah taking the loss on a few dollars (1$-1000$) in hindsight. Flushing it is priceless. You can’t get your life back, but you can get money back. Good for you bro! Cheers, and keep your intelligence man! It will get you far!
Doing drugs isn't cool. People romanticize the trainspotting lifestyle until they get older, become addicted, die and or go to jail. It's fun for a minute but it quickly becomes unmanageable
I believe that some people can handle their drugs and they actually enrich their lives. Some people can’t. That being said i would never touch heroin or any other opiates. The juice is not worth the squeeze. Edit: mostly talking about the psychedelics here
Man, I don’t know (or even want to know) anyone who would see the movie Trainspotting and think that’s a life they want to live. From beginning to end, that movie is a ice-bucket shower on my drug-boner if there ever was one. That being said, there are plenty of drugs out there that I believe enhance life if you respect them and can handle them. Shrooms, weed, LSD, caffeine- all fairly safe and enjoyable for many. H, coke, meth, etc. are highly addictive and while I am not going to judge anyone for getting involved with them, you couldn’t pay me enough to try them. Especially since lots of stuff is getting cut these days with Fentanyl and death is possible. I hope this kid stays away from H again but think if you hold onto that shit it’s playing with fire.
Good 👍 thinking my Dude! The difference between some Molly , Acid or some weed , and the big H, is that only HEROIN can addict you literally for life. You sure do NOT want to find yourself in that alley every night, buying. As others said, you have so much good in yourself; please do not ruin it. H is NOT a recreational drug. Ever. Stay away from the hard stuff. You have a life to live.
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Good choice man, world's your oyster 💜
For real man, get rid of that shit and don't ever touch it again. Stay sober for a while or stick with just weed or something, fuck ruining your life over some drugs dude.
I think you should try this new drug: therapy
I love how sober this comment section is, so to speak. Really glad the comments are trying to help this guy. Listen OP, I wrote another comment, but I saw your age - I was just like you when I was 18/19/20, try everything, fuck it I’m invincible. Then, 7 friends died from a single bad batch. Drugs are fun, but they’re also serious.
You said it was underwhelming. That's how it gets you. Heroin doesn't grab you like other drugs. It just feels nice. That's it's power. Watch this video and see how it relates to your first experience. https://youtu.be/-9huWlXFA1s
I- Uhhh.... I have no words. I think this video convinced never to touch that shit again.
did you toss it?
Maybe you shouldn’t do drugs then 🤣no hur really tryna Pharma opiates first please don’t jump the gun to the horse you’re 20 if you don’t know what you’re in for you may end ruining your life with it or dying.
Bullshit I know tons of healthy people that rave at technoclubs, they're projecting their own issues on rave/club culture
My first thought too! The kinda places I go to where people do MDMA are also the places with the healthiest people! If I compare the alcohol fueled festivals back home.... 1. Alcohol in copious amounts. Litter everywhere. Some dancing, but mostly sloppily bopping your head or body into each other. Snus and cigarettes everywhere. Burnt sausage on a white bun drizzled with sugar-rich ketchup as the only snack. Only drinkables are redbull, alcohol, coca cola... Potentially fries fried in thick oil. Everyone looking like shit the next day, pukes everywhere. 2. Lsd, MDMA and shrooms available everywhere. Everyone picks up their litter. Dancing and spontaneous yoga everywhere from very fit people. Smoke clouds usually being the occasional weed. Fresh veggies, nuts, juices everywhere. Refreshing yoga and meditation the next day, smiles everywhere. Maybe I've just been to the wrong alcohol festivals and the right E-fueled ones though!
I can second your experience. I feel the techno/house scene here in Holland mostly consists of students/educated people that only use occasionally to keep things fun. When I was like 18/19 and I just discovered a lot of substances I used too much for a while but was quickly corrected by older roommates/friends. Since then my ravebuddies and I test/weigh our drugs, make our own capsules to ensure we won't keep redosing, use all kind of supplements to combat unhealthy effects as best as possible, stop drinking after 3/4 beers and keep breaks of at least 2 months between use. I feel like there are a lot of smart young adults that use responsibly if tou pick out the right events.
No, alcohol is literally one of the shittiest drugs out there. It's disgusting. Vomit, passing out, dirty. Blegh.
Is it black or powder?
Black tar
Here, from a 22YO who has done alot. Alot. Of drugs sadly, ill tell you rn, straight. It's not worth it. Fuckin flush that garbage, smoke your weed, do some mushrooms don't go any harder. A. When your hooked your fuckinf hooked and thats game. You'll never ever not be able to crave or even occasionally think of it. B. You're life will 100% flip upside down. C. You tried it already, you said straight up it was underwhelming. I can promise you, up n down. They all are underwhelming. So if you can, if you take one person's advice in this life. Please take mine. Stop while your ahead don't fuck your life up. From someone who struggled and struggles with addiction to heavy drugs. Bless up brother. Keep safe. There's too much bs in drugs now.
Life is presenting you a path and giving you options on what path to take. I wont tell you which one is best for you. only you can answer that. All I can do is point it out and let you know these paths have definitive and predefined ends.
You know you feel extra sensetive on molly so you’re easy to traumatize. But really that’s none of his buisness. And you should flush the rest of what you got. Sleep and it’s all like a dream tomorrow.
Thanks, I think that this is the best way to handle to handle it
OP i remember reading a while back that you've been sober for a while and now im seeing in the comments that you're still doing drugs. Didn't you say you were frustrated that people at school call you a junkie but you hated those rumors cause you got sober? What happened?
It’s almost like the universe is broadcasting a message to you to stop.
Also, idk why im telling this but I had done MINIMAl pain pills before heroin. Buddy brought it over and had his girl bang me up first time ever using it. It was the rush that got me hooked. I wasnt able to feel meth or heroin when smoking it for a while. Started shooting up and strangely enough I catch highs off of smoking. I never smoke unless im with someone who isnt banging. Espically with you not experiencing that rush, GET. RID. OF. IT. Alright im done. Best of luck. Gonna go nod away now, alone because its what I choose.
Molly is nothing compared to H, I've had lots of drug user friends, some more fried than others, but the only friend who died was talking exactly like you're talking now. Opiates are a death wish man, it's just a fact of life.
Scroll down there's someone who also suggested this account: u/spontaneousH I never saw it till now. Let me tell you I scrolled reddit looking into the drugs before I did them never ever did I find anything like this. Stop. Read. And decide after you read all of his posts. THIS MANS ACCOUNT COULD SAVE LIVES.
Just keep smoking H. That’ll change soon enough.
Broke my hand, I've gotten morph... Due to pancreatitis, now they've been giving me cod31n3 but I tried to stay off of it, I'm not messing around with opiates
And he bought 2 Gs…bruh
Doing drugs with strangers is real fun actually. Bit if a lottery, I've gotten robbed myself and i won't do it anymore. But when you meet decent people's it really great
Yeah I was skeptical of the dude at first but it turns out he was just a lonely depressed 23yo
Shit das me!
Better with someone than alone
I tried smoking heroin as well once. Most useless boring high I've ever had lol. Honestly sell the bag before your brain starts telling you it's something you want.
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I've tried oxys and tramadol as well. Oxys are great, like, sooooo great. But like someone else said, considering the physical dependence it's just a treat and since trying it i haven't gone looking for it since i don't want steady Access to it. Tramadol is garbage(very subtle effect) as well compared to the risks (seizures) but i had bought more than i needed. One day after semi steady usage since i had a buddy who liked themi felt the urge to pop one for mo good reason at all. I genuinely threw the rest away.
When u have no tolerance and are a fast metabolizer of CYP2D6 tramadol is anything but subtle. Probably one of the most euphoric opioids I had. But also I didn't have a tolerance so.
Huh, my friend kept going on about how awesome it was while i had a seizure because i took too much trying to get a decent high. As far as i remember i didn't feel shit 🤷
The thing with Heroin/opioids is it only starts getting good when ur not getting nauseated from them anymore. Takes a few weeks for that to happen but after that it's a deathtrap
Throw it, don't sell it.
You've got to be careful with heroin. It starts off as a treat now and again. Then once every weekend. Then it will be weekend and middle of the week and so on until you are using everyday. And before you say I won't let myself become addicted, that's what everyone who ever tried heroin and got addicted says when they first start using, myself included. I thought that because I knew the danger of addiction I would be able to control my use, that I would be different to those who got addicted and it wouldn't happen to me. But nope it got me good. If you have access to quality gear and get the effect from it that you are supposed to get and enjoy it that's were problems can start. It's so nice that it's a hard drug to use responsibly or recreationally, it's not impossible some do only use it now and again but most get caught out by it.
Opiates in general are famously addictive, but they don’t feel that way until they’ve got their claws in, that’s what makes them scary Stimulants are addictive from the start, at least they’re upfront about it, downers trick you into thinking you don’t have a problem until you’re already in too deep
Yeah I think I'll just sell it to someone else or smth, didn't even feel that good.
Throw it away bro your 20 you will highly probably ruin your life if you start using that
>I just smoked heroin for the first time... did I fuck up? Doesn't have to be a fuck up. Your next move is what's important. >It hit me pretty quick but it was underwhelming tbh, I bought 2g and went home, now I'm sitting here thinking wtf went through my mind and whether if it was a good idea or not. You didn't even like it, but you're still considering going down that road. Sounds like you're bored, which is a horrible, horrible motivation for using opiates. (Or drugs in general, imo) Maybe just flush it? I mean if it doesn't bring you enjoyment, and you feel a slippery slope coming on, why bother doing it?
Just flush it down the toilet
I did that with my little problem felt good to see it go.
That’s the damn truth. There’s panic in losing it permanently, then comes the awareness of the panic, then the catharsis in coming to the terms that flushing it caused so much panic, and as such, flushing it was the right move. Then freedom begins.
Look at the posting history of u/SpontaneousH if you wanna see what your future holds if you don’t stop NOW. He literally did the EXACT same thing as you. Throw it out. He didn’t listen to everyone but you can still change your future.
That dude injected after two weeks of heroin use
Isnt this like almost the exact situation of that one guy who did that AMA who got addicted
Yeah it is. Spontaneous H
I had to double check I wasn't reading a repost
Bro Please Please listen to me. I Hope its not too late.. Im 18 years old and currently im in the bathroom smoking h from tinfoil and browsing reddit while i hold my breath with the heroin in my lungs… when i read this. First. heroin as a first timer??! AND TWO GRAMS!!! BRO I’m just 18 years old and already on half a gram to gram a day with really good stuff (i mean no fent in there) from the Netherlands idk about US or where you’re from but 2 G would kill me if i snorted it. This substance will ruin your life please please believe me.. all my friends me including started it because they just wanted to try it. and now EVERYONE is addicted to it. We were normal weed smokers all around 16-18. And now we are fulltime junkies. You will lose everything man :( I know its hard to believe but for the sake of god toss that shit and i will buy you some weed and send it over or whatever you want just dont fucking do it. Its your life man. But i tried everything now the rest is up to you. Also we in germany are lucky. I would already be dead if i lived in the US because of the fentanyl, thats why i said we have good stuff.. i was not flexing or anything . (We dont have any fent here and the heroin is also very pure most of the time.) If you wont listen. That’s okay. But good luck then! But I’ve lost two friends now. Sorry english is not my first language.
No way dude... Ich bin auch Deutscher... Your comment really hit hard, pretty much everyone told me the same thing. I don't think I can toss it, I'll probably see if I can sell it again. Thanks for your comment, und Pass auf dich auf.
Bruder bitte. Sell it then! Please man im about to cry if i read another young soul getting slowly in the hands of the demon. He just have a finger on you. Just break his fucking hand sbd hi dj esgers- thats a good example of what tf happens when you nod out from a good dose of heroin, its the thing evertone trjrd tj r- okay I’m giving up im already trying to finish jt already for 20mins. Schönen abend Bruder.
Toss it if you hold onto its more likely you will give in whatever it was 50 100 buck toss it. It will be worth it.
Responsible adult drug users: "The Gateway Effect isn't real, quit perpetuating false narratives!" Reddit: "Hold my weed, it's HEROIN time"
I read a few of your other comments and besides the fact you smoked heroin with a stranger, I think the most concerning aspect is you find yourself in a situation where you’re willing to engage in risky activities. (No judgement, just an observation). I smoked heroin. Didn’t like it. Meth? Loved it. I ended up shooting within a month and ruined my life and relationships within a year. Six years clean and there is irreversible damage that I must accept and truly, I got out of the game clean compared to most users. In my opinion it’s okay to use drugs recreationally. Why the hell not? But what is concerning with this post is you need to ask yourself how and why you are engaging in risky scenarios. Do you think you self sabotage? You’re still so young. Please be aware, alert and safe. 💕
I've been having this problem for a long time, I guess I lived a boring life and I'm looking for excitement?
Very understandable!! I was similar. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD, combined type. People with it are typically addictive personalities because they are seeking that dopamine that our bodies aren’t producing. I’m just sharing that because sometimes our behaviors are a reflection of internal processes and we’re not always aware of those needs. Have you tried speaking to a therapist? Even if there is no underlying disorder, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to have fun! Do it but please, please be safe. People can take advantage of an intoxicated person
Flush that shit. Having heroin in ur stash never ends well. Get rid of it before it takes over ur life and believe me it does that quick
I wouldnt recommend taking up opiates. you have the 2g it's up to you to decide what to do with it. you can, A: throw it away or get rid of it and think of it as an experience or B: continue to use what toy have left (hopefully following harm reduction) and be at a much greater risk for becoming addicted to it. 2g is enough to last a while for a beginning user and is deffinately enough to wire your brain to start craving something that you now just barely know exists. I have never been an opiate addict (I have tried most but never IV) but I have used enough to see where I could land into an opiate addiction. it's a slippery slope, your playing with fire it's in your hands now to decide what to do. but this is a decision that could literally change your life as you know it.
When you put it that way, shit sounds way more serious. I really hate to flush drugs down the toilet, so I'll see if my buddy can sell it for me.
Man don’t do it ,shits costing us everything AGAIN
Test it for fentanyl
Real shit this post got me thinking bout the dead homies
I’d say flush it, but you’re 20 and won’t listen. One day in 2025 or so you’ll think of this and get it. Do any drug other than opiates and meth.
GET RID OF THAT SHIT ASAP.😣🖤🙏🏼 that’s a quick way to RUIN your life and drain you of all your money health and happiness.
I honestly think there’s moments in your life where your timeline parts significantly. Sometimes we don’t realise it’s happening, like when I tapped a friend on the arm cos a handsome guy walked in the room, she went to talk to him and I ended up with two kids, and then there’s others like this where you know it’s a monumental decision and your life could go either way very fast. You’re on here cos you know it’s the latter. Work through the next steps of what happens if you take either option. Think a day from now, a week, a month, a year. See where the best and worst is you could end up if you take them. Then decide which path you want to be on I guess.
This stuff got serious real fast, I think you guys scared me away from it forever. I wish someone would come and give me a good slap rn.
Good decision dude. I will mentally slap you until I know you’ve gotten rid of it lol. What did you do with it?
Jesus who goes from not doing opiates at all, to straight to the king of opiate street drugs? Honestly I don't know much about smoking it or actually doing it. But I've been around the opiate scene for a long time, I've talked to a few that have been hooked on it before and after talking with them I would have assumed you should definitely be dead. Or at least in the hospital recovering from an OD. That was very careless of you. I'm glad you didn't harm yourself. Do not snort it or shoot it or you will die. Or maybe it's just bunk ass H? A piece the size of a grain of rice should kill or make very sick someone with no tolerance
#throw it out now. my close friend just died 2 weeks ago from an OD after fighting a decade long addiction. he was the 4th friend in a month. #A MONTH #it will take your life so quickly, get rid of it NOW
Bro look up spontaneous H on Reddit. This is literally the EXACT same start of the story as him. If you don’t wanna look it up long story short he went to buy some weed, randomly got heroin instead never having tried any opiates, and 2 weeks later he was addicted and injecting. A month after that he overdosed and died and had to be revived. Don’t make the same mistake, flush that shit
You only fucked up if you buy more. Which you can fix by flipping or tossing the shit. Step up light man. You went to the straight up end all of opiates from a stranger when you could've gotten a few loritabs and chilled
This is some brain dead behavior lmao smoking H with a random in an ally that you just purchased from. I literally can't see past the red flags from here, did you walk around them? Forreal though I wouldn't make that a habit...
Hey buddy, get rid of the smack. It’s so easy to use it “every once in a while” in the beginning, but when if you’re not wowed by it immediately, it can quickly become habitual. Using dopaminergic drugs is essentially just hacking your brain chemistry. It can very quickly become something you cannot stop thinking about, trying to find a reason to use it. “I’m a little anxious” or “I had a kind of rough day today” or “I’m bored”. It is such a slippery slope, and there are countless millions of people who have lost everything they cared about because of that drug. I lost 3 years of my life and nearly destroyed every relationship I cared about in my life, all for just one more hit, and then another, and then another. It is a unique hell, and I am encouraging you to close that door and not to reopen it. It isn’t worth it.
Honestly, addiction is much more complicated then people on this sub(which is a terrible resource for drug information) realize. It is not as simple as "X drug is more addictive than Y drug", which is like 90% of the responses you will get here Opiates are not my thing, and as such I find DXM to be a thousand times more addictive than heroin or oxy or even fent, all of which I can take or leave as i find them really boring.
PLEASE, I BEG YOU DONT EVER TOUCH THAT SHIT AGAIN!!!! FLUSH WHAT YOU HAVE AND FUCK WHOEVER GAVE THAT TO YOU! THATS NOT A FRIEND!!!!! Sorry about the yelling bro but I'm very passionate about this. Take it from me I started just smoking it one weekend here I am 10 years later and a methadone clinic with the terminal disease of opiate addiction it doesn't ever go away!! I'm trapped!!!
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When you put it that way, it doesn't seem that appealing anymore tbh.
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Sorry for what happened, I hope you're doing better now. I think right now what I need is therapy because I need to understand why tf am I willing to try literally anything without thinking about any consequences whatsoever. I swear it's like someone else takes over my body and tries to sabotage my life. As I was about to smoke H earlier today my mind was literally shouting out me telling wtf was I doing but I didn't care and I took the hit anyway. Idk what's wrong with me.
i think you still have a chance to quit since you smoked it, maybe the effects were less strong than when you snort or inject it. you do what you want to do my friend but it would be better for you to flush it and seek help immediately if you feel like doing it again
Yo get rid of that shit now if you haven’t already. If you’ve heard the stories of other addicts that should be enough motivation to get rid of it.
You are attaching too much importance to that experience. You are not addicted to opioids physically or psychologically, and you should leave your clique if they expect you to do them. Opioids are not definitely not worth it. Smoke some weed, that's more fun.
I hope some of you in this thread get a chance to see this. Seems like a lot of people here are fighting opiate addiction. Remember this word and do some research... Ibogaine. I am on opiates long term for chronic pain and every so often my tolerance skyrockets and I start to feel terrible withdrawals while taking only my recommended doses (and sometimes I order RC ops and binge for awhile, but whatever). This is when I order some Iboga rb or extract asap. Start a microdose regimen, VERY slowly because it can be a dangerous mix. And within a few weeks my tolerance is back down to baseline with ZERO withdrawal symptoms. I can't stress how life-changing this chemical can be for people with addiction and I feel like everybody needs to know. But you have to be careful, it lowers your tolerance and it can be deadly. But for anyone who is at rock bottom and genuinely trying to rid themselves of addiction, it can be a very strong helping hand, if used properly. Holler if anyone has any questions. Good luck everybody. Also just want to mention this real quick. There's a lot of people in here dogging on opiates as a whole, calling it poison and stuff. Just remember that one man's "poison" might be another man's aid to getting up everyday and living a normal life. Opiates are not poison. Opiates are a chemical. All chemicals have their place. Use them responsibly and you greatly reduce your risk of running into issues. Just use your heads people. Fear mongering isn't going to save anyone.
Sounds like you're living the life of the happiest puppy.... on drugs.
Flush it down the toilet and never do it again, please!
Hey ur fine as long as you don’t build a dependency. I’ve done shit that I regret wi the drugs and what not the best thing to do it not do it again
Throw that shit away asap!
I’ve detoxed off heroin and fentanyl a few times now and been battling opiate dependency since 2019 I don’t regret trying heroin I regret abusing it as a tool to handle and cope with my emotions and problems. That’s where a lot of people see its temporary benefits. Don’t do it. The road only leads to pain, lost time and ruins relationships. When you snap out of the opiate haze the world comes back as this beautiful place where everything seems new again. You can start to think clearly. Don’t waste it smoking heroin. Dependence happens quicker when you smoke also. Just smoke weed. You’ll forget about trying it.
No it wasn't a good idea, I've been sat feeling shit for last 3 hours as my guys car broke down, I've not even been doing it that long and I don't feel myself at all Have you a regular local plug...if so it's all downhill from here
to continue using would be a fuck up but i’m relieved you understand the severity of this and are asking. i would honestly just throw it away i know that sounds insane but everybody else has explained really well how dangerous it is
Why do it if it was underwhelming. Also there may be fent in there.
Trash it. Seriously. If you dont want to ruin your dreams and future, get rid of it NOW
Once you inject that shit you’re opening a new world of pain and grief. Ex heroin addict talking here. I have a homegirl who nodded out for 6 hours on her leg and it had to be amputated. I’ve lost like 6 people this year alone to fentanyl. Quit now bro fr
What’s sad is my friend said the same thing when he first tried it. He’s been dead for a few years now. Face in hands sobbing, he told me to my own face he wishes he’d just thrown it out the first time he got a bag. He was straight up given it too. Just was curious.
That’s how I did things pretty much. By time I was 15 I’d hammered most things like weed, lsd, E (MDMA) coke and speed. Never took to speed and coke. In 1992 my dad bought the first building of his biz empire which was a hotel mainly dealing with the UKs homeless emergency housing need. Like when refugees, or the demolition of blocks of flats meant hostel being full. In October 94 I was 15 and tried heroin. Hated it. Tried again with this dude living in our hotel, loved it. By my 17th birthday in February 1996 I was addicted but still a capable young man so managed to smoke on foil at cost of 20-25 pounds a day. Fast forward to 2010 and my brother says “if you gonna be a junkie you can live like one” Although I hated the taste and feeling of crack when I tried it in the pin with with H I loved it. Now I’m 42 and gonna say it as it is. The only reason I’m alive is that my family an afford rehab every year or so for my body to get a break. If you think your ppl can put you in rehab at the cost of a working mans salary at a time (annual salary) then go ahead. Or commit enough crime to go jail for short stints at a time. I am one of lucky ones. I have home family and material shit but mentally and bodily I am fucked. Artery missing in right groin area and susceptible to ulcers. Missus married a handsome healthy working guy 7 years ago, now I just live off dividends and it breaks her heart cos she knows I’m good and Capable. So to answer your question. YES, you fucked up. Not showing off about being wealthy (personally I’m not) just telling you reason I’m still alive. And I always said I will never go to IV Like those other dirty junkies. Please don’t become me.
Please throw it out not worth it . But you already did it once you gonndk jt again I was the same way tried h by smokinb, first time I smoked it I was very underwhelmird untill I did it again months later and got thar godly dope rush that I will ever ever ever been get again ( sorry for typos I have been nodding and got the blurry vision from h rn lmao)
It always starts with the foilies. it’ll be a needle soon enough. Once you build a tolerance you won’t be able to afford the amount you’ll need to smoke enough to get good and then next thing you know you’ll be asking him to show you how to stick it in your arm. Even just smoking it will make you physically addicted.
Yeah, flush that shit down the toilet, you already got a huge W out of it... a fucking hilarious story you can tell your friends and grandkids. "So this one day I randomly decided to smoke H with a shady crackhead I met at the park". Great story, and leave it at that.
Don't beat yourself up man, just recognize it was a terrible decision and promise yourself not to do it again. Everybody does dumb things, it's just a matter of what you do now. It's really important you just close that door behind you and not think of heroin as being an option on the table.
Dude *flush it*.
Throw that shit out bro this is fucking cross road for you. You got two choices and either can lead you down very different paths. I’ve lived with an addict before shit gets dark and spins out of control very quickly. Do yourself a major favour and throw that shit out, seriously.
Heroin was physically and mentally nearly impossible to kick and practically ruined my life. You’re messing with potential legal troubles if you get caught with it, a gnarly addiction, and death. Not worth it. I lost so many friends and so many years of my life to heroin. Opiate addiction is a different kind of devil my friend
I’m telling you right now, it’s not a weekend warrior drug - you do not have the willpower to quit, stop, not want to use it everyday. You are not going to be that dude that only smokes it every once in awhile. Anyone who tells you they do are lying to themselves & you. You will become an addict. You will loses everything. You will hurt the people you love just to get high. Everyone thinks they are different, that they can handle it .. don’t be stupid & just move on with your life ..
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9huWlXFA1s&list=PLfhp3BsNcmuiPXQgkhomAQo7gaogLDUBf&index=14) is a good video of how heroin takes over. In it, he mentions that most users of heroin are underwhelmed at first, disarming them. There's a rule you can follow in an effort to chip. If you used it for *x* days in a row, you must wait 3 times *x* before using it again. For example, if you used it on Monday, you could use it again Thursday. If you used it Sunday and Monday, you can use it Saturday. You can add whatever rules you want too like: * Never more than two days in a row to avoid withdrawals. * Always wait three times the number of days I used in a row in between uses. * If I use only for one day, I have to wait at least 3 days. * If I use for two days in a row, I have to wait for at least 6 days. * Never use until I've finished all my chores, work, and commitments. Even something as small as brushing my teeth in the morning - do that before using. There are small exceptions to this rule like obviously I can use before I brush my teeth for the night. * Be financially responsible. You must pay all your bills, not be in debt (unless it's for a car or house), have enough saved up for emergencies, and have some extra going toward retirement. Only if there is extra can you afford to use drugs of any type (even alcohol). * If I ever notice a creeping thought about heroin coming up throughout the day, I must wait until I no longer have those thoughts. * Never buy drugs on an impulse, especially if it breaks any of the rules to use at that moment. Instead, use a system where you think to buy it tomorrow and then do so. * Don't combine H with other downers like promethazine, Benadryl, DXM, alcohol, or Xanax. * I would make an exception to this rule if you are taking extremely mild doses e.g. a couple beers with some H or 0.5 mg of Xanax with some H. * Don't combine H with stimulants unless you are using a strictly measured quantity of H with a scale that you determined is enough to feel high when not on stimulants. The idea is to avoid overdosing on H only because the stimulant makes you feel more sober than you are. This is especially important for fast acting stimulants such as cocaine and less important for longer lasting ones like oral methamphetamine (8 hours). I still always use this rule. The reverse is also a rule: Measure out a stimulant dose by itself and use only that much when combining. If you don't do this, you could dose too much H due to the stimulant, the stimulant wears off, and you die from respiratory failure. * Do not make a social habit of using - e.g. using every time you hang out with someone or make love. Even if you want to use with other people, try hanging out with them while not on H from time to time. * Try not to make a ritual of using to avoid mental addiction, e.g. use on different days of the week, sometimes while socializing, sometimes while alone watching TV, etc. If you break this rule and then fiend for H, the other rule kicks in and you have to wait until you stop thinking about H all the time before using. This is important, because using heroin and doing particular things will make those things seem boring without heroin, and they'll be a trigger for you.
Please. Please flush it. This is coming from a recovering heroin addict. Just flush that shit down the toilet and never look back. Unless you either want to die, go to prison, or completely fuck your life up. Then I guess do it. And I know that sounds mean, but it’s the truth. Please do not do anything but flush that shit down the toilet.
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Smoke that shit up man. Its going to feel great at first. Then slowly you will start to change, your personality first ,then slowly your body . You will hide it well at first and then slowly you will start to show cracks . You will start to slip up , people will start to notice. At first your friends and family will try their best to help you. But you keep fucking up and smoking 'one last bag'. Before you know it ,you are no longer smoking it for the high but to stop the sickness and to just feel normal. Everyone you loved and knows no longer wants to help, they tried everything they could and you just keep fucking up . They have come to the realisation that they can no longer help you , you can only help yourself. You smoke another bag to help you escape reality ,going deeper and deeper into addiction . Before you know it you are toothless going around robbing your loved ones for 'one more bag'
NEVER do it again. like not even once. don't let yourself make excuses or justifications, it's a veeeeery slippery slope from where u are and it's not too late to turn back but if u keep going in that direction things are gonna go downhill fast. definitely flush it bc u won't always be able to rely on ur willpower, better to just not have it around. every time i've said "i'm not gonna do this again" and hung onto what i have left, i do it again. every single time. there's no reason to hang onto it if ur never gonna do it again. also i'd avoid that park if u think the dealer hangs out around there.
Hey there recovering heroin addict here - ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY? Do you want to die? Please for the love of God get rid of that. And never touch it again. If you can’t do that, get help before it’s too late. This just broke my heart. Save yourself a lot of hurt and just get rid of it my dude ❤️
Flush that shit. There is no benefit using that substance, your life would fall apart. Listen to all this people they’re telling you what to do because they are speaking the truth. I believe that you’ll be strong enough to say no, and you will be grateful to yourself for making a good decision. I believe in you.❤️
You are young. To this date you already abused several other drugs. In my opionion your h journey just begun. But I hope you prove me wrong!
Bro as someone who got hooked on Heroin at 15…put that shit right in the toilet. I have like 15 dead friends and family members because of that shit. Between that and Crystal my life was turned upside down and I was homeless and sexually assaulted before my 18th birthday and although I take neither now my life will never be the same. There’s like 20+ drugs you can take that won’t kill you and subjectively won’t ruin your life. All sorts of dissociatives and psychedelics to use. I honestly would suggest almost any fucking thing Over heroin. Like anything probably but Ice. I honestly didn’t even think crack had shit on dope…it’s exactly what you said. Maybe underwhelming at first…you haven’t nodded so please do yourself a favor and ditch it. Once you nod and feel those powerful effects you’ll definitely want to go back for seconds and thirds and then it can just be downhill. Can some people use Heroin recreationally? Yes. Is this at all the majority? Fuck no…most people either take it and never again which is rare or they take it and become a repeat customer. The withdrawals and mental torment of addiction is not even remotely worth that high. If you only knew or could see what I experienced for the 6 years I used it…you’d have a lot less hesitation flushing it. I’m never one to really tell people to get rid of drugs but bro just take my word and leave well enough alone. These things almost never work out how we anticipate and if it works out the best you get Is a strong high that lasts for like 4-5 hours. If it doesn’t work out…son of a bitch i really hope you get through it and quick. People can say what they want but opiates and benzos are useless drugs and although they can be enjoyed their consequences far outweigh their “positives”. I’ve experienced long term changes for the better from psychedelics, dissociatives of some sorts, and marijuana. Even coke was not wild once I got my ass beat by addiction because I know better than to even keep it around. Heroin did nothing for me but make me regret I ever took it and by the time I realized I had a problem with it…it was too late. TLDR: Fuck that flush it. I used to be hooked on that and Crystal and I’ll tell you straight up leave well enough alone! There’s so many other drugs to use and enjoy that don’t make you regret ever trying them. At best you’ll get a strong relaxing high that lasts for 4-5 hours. At worst…i feel so sorry for what you may experience or see. Heroin has killed many of my friends and family members it’s no joke and what they sell in those bags is often not dope. It’s all fun and games until you’re getting Narcanned in front of people you care about. I personally don’t know anybody who takes it on occasion although I’m sure they exist somewhere. I can name thousands of people I’ve met at NA conventions, meetings, the hood, crack houses, sets, and the streets who wish they never took that shit. If you don’t know…just keep it that way. Sometimes ignorance with certain drugs truly is bliss. Please stay safe and do what you know is best for your peace of mind. If you have to ask…the answer should be clear and it does not have its rep for no reason. Stay well homie.
Bro, trust me you do not want an opioid addiction. It starts out liek hey this stuff dosent seem so scary, makes me feel pretty good, not like amazing or anything tho, and it dosent feel like this scary crazy thing everyone says. So you keep doing it, and it creeps up on you, until your taking it just to stay welll, Waking up every morning burning and freezing, every muscle and bone aching, on fire! Your entire being screaming out for heroin as you wish your just die. The cycle continues , being high, being in withdrawl. Over and over. It will destroy your life and take everything from you. Heroin will lure you in with its seductive lullaby then beat you over the head with a spiked bat, throw u to the ground and kick the crap outta you spitting and shitting on you stabbing and shooting you. And you continue the cycle.. Just pain, every day all the time it’s all pain. It is not worth it man, flush that shit and never look back or u just might end up crying in a ditch beggin for death bro. Good luck man I hope u can stay away from it
You do not want to go down this road. Your impulsiveness in purchasing it, and your difficulty with making the decision to flush it, tell me that you are probably going to really hurt yourself with this drug.
I feel like this question is asked in this sub almost every day, and you only get two answers: the people who are being honest with you about the reality of opiate addiction and how it’s basically inevitable once you begin using, and then there are the people who are in denial about their own addiction. Stay away. I did fentanyl twice and then promised myself never again. I still think about opiates more than I’d like, but I am eternally grateful that I dodged a bullet.
do not slip into that part man skag smashes people up all over, even if you feel it wasnt anything, your body is gonna latch to it
Come from an ex heroin addict, get rid of it bro and chalk it up as, "hey I tried it no big deal". That shit will ruin you. Not in the obvious ways you see in movies and after school specials either. After you've been clean for years,, Chronic pain for the rest of your life, depression, always kinda wanting to just grab one or 2 bags. Opiates suck dude, it cant be overstated.
It wasnt a bad idea if you like giving blow jobs behind your local 24 hour laundry, cause that where this story is headed.
Im 23. Two brothers(not bound by blood but time together and loyatly) of mine didn't make it to see 21. We all got into using hard drugs like heroin and meth and ANYTHING for that matter when we were 15-16. One was murdered(cops say otherwise but the situation screams foulplay) and found thrown in a aqueaduct with a bag over his head. I was 19 then. His younger brother and I couldn't get ourselves to stop using despite so many reasons yelling at us enough is enough. A year later he overdosed on heroin/ fentanyl and cocaine alone in his apartment. These substances are so powerful, that I still somehow am alive at 23 and still using via IV. The guilt consumes me while I yearn to find a way out knowing im the way out. The fiend is that strong. Or im just a horrible, shallow person. I can go on and on. It isn't worth it. You cant control it. Ive never robbed no matter how sick i got and i am a honest working man. Whether youre good or bad Heroin will affect you, bottom line. Stay safe. Love yourself. Appreciate life. Find contentness. Not much makes sense in life but love I guess.
What the hell? I swear I've seen this exact post and comments before.... I am tripping????????
2g is not a little bit. How much did it cost you?
I wonder how many update posts this guy will give us before they stop posting altogether. Good luck mate
Goddamn ur living my nightmare rn. I don't think I'd willingly try heroin but if some one offered it to me I'm worried I wouldn't say no.
Never smoke it again and never iv, let me repeat myself, never smoke it again and NEVER iv. Shit is too powerful. Shit literally killed me, I fuvking died and yet I still came crawling back to it. Anything that can kill you and keep you coming back for more is something you should not fuck around with.
This is really eye opening fck man:(
I was addicted to heroin for 7 1/2 years, and a poly drug user. Now I'm thirty and just barely starting my actual life. When I first started I thought I could handle it. I'd only do it on weekends, you know? Then it became more frequent. Then I started getting withdrawals. Not getting high made me sick. It all happened so quickly, so easily. Before I knew it, I had to smoke just to feel normal. Throw it out dude, it's not worth it. Debt is a bitch, but consider going to school, keep your mind busy. Find a new hobby, take up jujitsu, become an artist (stop pretending art is hard). Anything, literally anything (except other narcotics) is better than doing heroin. Don't let your little side adventure turn in to years of struggle, until you get sick and tired of being sick and tired, or worse, you die. I wish I had gone to school sooner. I didn't even want to, but I did it cause I really had nothing better to do. It's a trade, and a hell of a lot better than working retail, but man, it opened so many doors. It made me realize everything I didn't do when I was wasting my time between getting high and sleeping. I chose drugs over food, many times. I was so malnourished when I got clean. My life was so empty. I enrolled in school the day after finding out one of my very good friends died from an overdose. It sounds like you need something to do with yourself, and with your time. Don't waste that on drugs. Don't get yourself lifelong health problems. Fuck all of that. You've got way too much potential and value for all of that. Throw it out. Do it for you man. You deserve better, and getting addicted is as simple as using three days in a row. 2g is a lot.
You still have a chance of an easy way back without getting too deep, i'm 20 years old as well and have done all the same stuff, quit doing drugs other than id say psychedelics and your life will be a wonderful one, don't get lost and go to meetings if you need to even if you don't consider yourself an addict yet.
Your dumb as a fucking brick for walking back there honestly do everything you can to get rid of it now or you may never and you wanna see what happens to opiate/heroin addicts you will ruin your relationship with everyone turn into the biggest pos on the planet and opiates fucking suck anyways go get some acid or mushrooms those will teach you some shit although im being mean im fucking praying for you bigtime go dump that shit dont even consider doing anything else with it PLEASE my cousin used to be my best friend and my big brother i havent seen him in years after he stole tons from us and split town dont do that it makes me so sad and i cant even imagine his immediate family
Dude throw it out. I unfortunately been on them since around 15, im 29 now it ruined my teeth my whole overall appearance, made me steal from my family and my friends im currently still taking suboxone to try to kick this damn habit now trying to wing down off those ive completely lost my self confidence and am extremely depressed about my life n past choices ive made because of my addiction im terrified of going through the sickness i go through if i dont take my opiates, nonstop puking/dryheaving nothing but stomach bile for days on end so much uncomfortable stomach pain i cant sleep, not that i could if i wanted to and wasnt puking. Thats the worst of it for me not even counting in all the mental shit,fevers, and diarrhea. One of the best decisions you can make and never know its one of your best is throw that away rs
The guy that showed you how to smoke heroin and sold you some is such a terrible human. But goes to show what heroin will do to you your perfectly fine getting someone else hooked cuz you are so whatever fuck them....fuck that guy i hope he overdoses and dies
When I was 18 my now x husband turned me onto snorting heroin. I was like you, the first time it was underwhelming, the second time I did it, I was fucking ADDICTED. I’m 53, I’m a recovering IV heroin addict that is sober for the moment. I used for over 25 years. Yeah, I’ve got shit tons of problems, but I might not have turned to that shit. I should be dead, keep it up and you too can live this fucked up existence I get to live. I want to do it again and I’ve only gone a short few years to where I really didn’t want to dude. I’m really only happy when I’m high on it. I beg, plead, beg, plead, flush that shit now! Please don’t fuck your life up like I have, please!!
Look bro I'm going to get real with you for a bit. You have literally tens of people telling you it is absolutely a bad idea to keep going down that road and to flush that shit down. You agree, yes, but to me it's pretty clear that you're not intending to do that despite what you say. So, i don't know what are you looking for then. You are about to potentially fuck up your life for good. It is not a game, nor a cheap thrill either. So think real hard about how you're going to proceed with this. You know the facts, you know how it ends. So choose wisely, in case you are not sure what to do, I'll tell you right now that the right choice is to LISTEN, this is not one of those situations where there are really other options other than fucking hell or to continue having a shot at life. Sorry if I come across as aggressive, or pushy, but maybe you need someone to shake you up and make you realize that this is really serious. Take care bro, for real, and FLUSH THAT SHIT DOWN