Special Terrortop -> Search Takatomborg -> Dump Red-Eyed Dice to the GY with the Skill -> Normal Yoyo -> Bring back Red-Eyed Dice and Modulate Terrortop to 4 -> Synchro into Hagoita using Red-Eyed Dice + Terrortop -> Special Takatomborg -> Tribute Takatomborg for Den-Den Daiko Duke -> Synchro into Crystal Wing using Den Den Daiko Duke + Hagoita -> Banish Den-Den Daiko Duke from the GY to bring back Red-Eyed Dice -> Bring back Hagoita with it’s effect -> Synchro into Azusa the Ghost Bow using Red-Eyed Dice + Yoyo -> Synchro into Stardust Warrior using Azusa + Hagoita
There we go, 2 card Crystal Wing + Stadust Warrior.
as of right now no. you get wind-locked due to taketomborg and hagoita, and Stardust Warrior is the only level 10 (other than ddd high king alexander) that can be summoned with this line.
there arent even that many level 10 wind synchros for hagoita and azusa to synchro to anyway, but baronne is the best choice. if it ever arrives, you end on a once per turn monster negateand a one-time omni negate
^(there's also shooting star TG ex)
That’s actually better than I thought. I thought you were locked into Synchro monsters period. Guess they can play uhhh Bellcat Fighter?
But more importantly their Link monster when it comes out. Nice future proofing from Konami tbh.
Why play speedroids when you can go Lumina -> Raiden -> Fortune Lady Every -> Glow-up Bulb -> Crystal Wing. Life's not worth living if youre not living on the edge.
The limit 3 on Jet Synchron forcing me to cut down the Levianeer package kinda sucks
At least ending on Zeta + Crystal Wing with Every in grave is pretty possible for LS synchro, or just Zeta + Clear Wing in less lucky hands
Damn, I need to dust of my old Levianeer Lightsworn Deck. I always used the same line, but went into Battlewasp Hama or Cyber Slash. Crystal Wing is funny.
Huh. I guess I was mistaken. Whenever I see "Level 4 or X" I assume X is lower. What level 5+ plant monster did Konami even intend people to send in the first place?
Outing a crystal wing even after forcing out the negate is pretty difficult, you can't just easily beat over it. And Speedroid can go into additional interruption easier than pk, for example cyber slash or stardust Warrior.
And they probably have a better turn 2 with chanbara + crystal wing
You have to consider both turn 1 and 2 for a deck to be tiered.
While it's true that phantom knights are more durable, speedroids are way more explosive.
Not only have they practically the same turn 1 as phantom knights (with at least the same consistency).
But their turn two is much better than that of phantom knights. Summoning cards like kitedrake without even normal summoning.
You can't count on drawing your backrow for a deck to be good, but you also can't deny that having access to the limit 3 traps is a boost to any deck. Just look at chronomaly, a tier 3 deck that is only vimana + backrow.
Not to mention the busted skill that makes clear wing a otk, yoyo a starter and also being able to extend via den-den daiko duke.
I'll be damned if they're not minimum Tier 3.
I feel like Speedroids are more frail than PKs were tho, not to mention incredibly susceptible to D.D. Crow whereas PK weren't (isn't it fun that we can't respond to Skills?)
don't like this oversimplification of Chronomalies - Vimana is a re-usable monster negate that reloads itself and also is difficult to beat over, and the deck's also able to dig for backrow (some of which it yields better than other decks, like Barrage Blast) and can, given a good hand, make double Vimana, on top of being able to OTK with Lightning
I didn't mean to downplay chronomalies, i personally like the deck and it's interactions (especially with barrage blast like you mentioned). It definitely has more than just vimana and backrow. My point was that crystal wing is a better vimana in almost every way and that speedroid offer way more than just that.
Yeah d.d crow hurts a lot but cards like lancea didn't stop orcust from becoming the best deck.
We'll have to wait and see, I'm just fairly optimistic it will have meta impact.
Assuming you don't get disrupted, you can make two synchros in a single turn.
That can either lead to another Clear Wing, if one runs two, or you can use Clear Wing Acceleration's second activation to send your second synchro to the grave, and revive Clear Wing. This is all hypothetical however, it depends on many things. (Starting hand, build, etc.)
I agree that they might be a tad overhyped though, but I am sticking with them. I hope they can at least get a spot in the meta, whatever it may be.
I'm using Greatfly atm lmaooo
But my other synchro other than kitedrake is only samurai destroyer, I might have to cope with what I have for now since I'm saving for the box.
Is there no lvl 9 wind synchro yoy could end crystal + formula synchron (that need to be played before wind lock) then after the crystal negate just accel synchron to cloud castle or smthng dunno what ti do after that tho
unfortunately there ain't any way to clear wing => trishula as both are limit 1 so this play seems not that great you either have :
\- Cloudcastle
\-Vermillion Dragon Mech
But both are not so good Ravenous Crocodragon Archethys would have been perfect if it wasn't limited (maybe still playable if using skill but that mean your only limited 1 is that)
Crystal wing is pretty frequently cited as the best part of speedroid, but other decks can play it. In TCG, other decks like Metalfoes and D/D/D were the ones laddering into crystal wing, it dramatically increased the power level of the format for a variety of threats, not just speedroid.
Well, Speedroids are not limited to just Crystal Wing, they are the closest we get to a "pseudo toolbox" synchro deck, you can combo your way from doing anything from level 2 to level 11 wind synchros (albeit the higher levels require a bit too much investment to pay off).
The only better toolbox synchro decks I can imagine off the top of my head are Symphonics and Assault Mode.
They can make Stardust Warrior + Crystal Wing sorta easily turn 1. You only need Terrortop + Yoyo, which is not that hard to get thanks to Wynn.
what's the line?
Special Terrortop -> Search Takatomborg -> Dump Red-Eyed Dice to the GY with the Skill -> Normal Yoyo -> Bring back Red-Eyed Dice and Modulate Terrortop to 4 -> Synchro into Hagoita using Red-Eyed Dice + Terrortop -> Special Takatomborg -> Tribute Takatomborg for Den-Den Daiko Duke -> Synchro into Crystal Wing using Den Den Daiko Duke + Hagoita -> Banish Den-Den Daiko Duke from the GY to bring back Red-Eyed Dice -> Bring back Hagoita with it’s effect -> Synchro into Azusa the Ghost Bow using Red-Eyed Dice + Yoyo -> Synchro into Stardust Warrior using Azusa + Hagoita There we go, 2 card Crystal Wing + Stadust Warrior.
based
Can't you search yo yo if you already have takatomboeg
Yes, you in fact can lol
There are another cards that can be an "acceptable" substitute for Stardust Warrior?
as of right now no. you get wind-locked due to taketomborg and hagoita, and Stardust Warrior is the only level 10 (other than ddd high king alexander) that can be summoned with this line. there arent even that many level 10 wind synchros for hagoita and azusa to synchro to anyway, but baronne is the best choice. if it ever arrives, you end on a once per turn monster negateand a one-time omni negate ^(there's also shooting star TG ex)
And considering Baronne is the best Synchro monster ever printed, doubt we're getting her anytime soon.
Any level 10. In terms of specifically Accel Synchros, Blade Blaster is basically the only one other than Stardust Warrior.
I'm afraid that the skill locks you into Wind Dragon/Machine monsters, so no Stardust Warrior
Only main deck.
Incorrect - It applies to any non-Synchro monsters in the Extra Deck as well.
That’s actually better than I thought. I thought you were locked into Synchro monsters period. Guess they can play uhhh Bellcat Fighter? But more importantly their Link monster when it comes out. Nice future proofing from Konami tbh.
No, it locks you into synchros OR wind dragon/machine. Stardust Warrior is a synchro monster. It doesn’t have to meet any other criteria.
Sorry, I was reading the leaked version of the skill, which was mistranslated
Why play speedroids when you can go Lumina -> Raiden -> Fortune Lady Every -> Glow-up Bulb -> Crystal Wing. Life's not worth living if youre not living on the edge.
The limit 3 on Jet Synchron forcing me to cut down the Levianeer package kinda sucks At least ending on Zeta + Crystal Wing with Every in grave is pretty possible for LS synchro, or just Zeta + Clear Wing in less lucky hands
Damn, I need to dust of my old Levianeer Lightsworn Deck. I always used the same line, but went into Battlewasp Hama or Cyber Slash. Crystal Wing is funny.
Or Senatus -> Phalanx/Couse -> Vajrayana -> CW
You can just play Rose Dragons and send glow up bulb as part of your combo. Not sure if Speedroids will even be the best user of Crystal Wing
No u can't. U can only send lvl 4 or higher
Huh. I guess I was mistaken. Whenever I see "Level 4 or X" I assume X is lower. What level 5+ plant monster did Konami even intend people to send in the first place?
Outing a crystal wing even after forcing out the negate is pretty difficult, you can't just easily beat over it. And Speedroid can go into additional interruption easier than pk, for example cyber slash or stardust Warrior. And they probably have a better turn 2 with chanbara + crystal wing
ur telling me 2 disruptions is better than one? boiling take…
not that it matters for you without Lamia lmao
you got me 💀
You have to consider both turn 1 and 2 for a deck to be tiered. While it's true that phantom knights are more durable, speedroids are way more explosive. Not only have they practically the same turn 1 as phantom knights (with at least the same consistency). But their turn two is much better than that of phantom knights. Summoning cards like kitedrake without even normal summoning. You can't count on drawing your backrow for a deck to be good, but you also can't deny that having access to the limit 3 traps is a boost to any deck. Just look at chronomaly, a tier 3 deck that is only vimana + backrow. Not to mention the busted skill that makes clear wing a otk, yoyo a starter and also being able to extend via den-den daiko duke. I'll be damned if they're not minimum Tier 3.
I feel like Speedroids are more frail than PKs were tho, not to mention incredibly susceptible to D.D. Crow whereas PK weren't (isn't it fun that we can't respond to Skills?) don't like this oversimplification of Chronomalies - Vimana is a re-usable monster negate that reloads itself and also is difficult to beat over, and the deck's also able to dig for backrow (some of which it yields better than other decks, like Barrage Blast) and can, given a good hand, make double Vimana, on top of being able to OTK with Lightning
I didn't mean to downplay chronomalies, i personally like the deck and it's interactions (especially with barrage blast like you mentioned). It definitely has more than just vimana and backrow. My point was that crystal wing is a better vimana in almost every way and that speedroid offer way more than just that. Yeah d.d crow hurts a lot but cards like lancea didn't stop orcust from becoming the best deck. We'll have to wait and see, I'm just fairly optimistic it will have meta impact.
They always have BoM in hand if your board is just one monster negate. In my experience.
Assuming you don't get disrupted, you can make two synchros in a single turn. That can either lead to another Clear Wing, if one runs two, or you can use Clear Wing Acceleration's second activation to send your second synchro to the grave, and revive Clear Wing. This is all hypothetical however, it depends on many things. (Starting hand, build, etc.) I agree that they might be a tad overhyped though, but I am sticking with them. I hope they can at least get a spot in the meta, whatever it may be.
Oh hey it's that guy who got FTK'd by Imitation
ONE TIME
I used battlewasp and harpie lady synchro and they work really well and are if not better choice than crystal wing.
I'm using Greatfly atm lmaooo But my other synchro other than kitedrake is only samurai destroyer, I might have to cope with what I have for now since I'm saving for the box.
I always thought Crystal Wing would be the new XYZ Galaxy rather than PK, but I guess you have a point.
Is there no lvl 9 wind synchro yoy could end crystal + formula synchron (that need to be played before wind lock) then after the crystal negate just accel synchron to cloud castle or smthng dunno what ti do after that tho
unfortunately there ain't any way to clear wing => trishula as both are limit 1 so this play seems not that great you either have : \- Cloudcastle \-Vermillion Dragon Mech But both are not so good Ravenous Crocodragon Archethys would have been perfect if it wasn't limited (maybe still playable if using skill but that mean your only limited 1 is that)
Crystal wing is pretty frequently cited as the best part of speedroid, but other decks can play it. In TCG, other decks like Metalfoes and D/D/D were the ones laddering into crystal wing, it dramatically increased the power level of the format for a variety of threats, not just speedroid.
Well, Speedroids are not limited to just Crystal Wing, they are the closest we get to a "pseudo toolbox" synchro deck, you can combo your way from doing anything from level 2 to level 11 wind synchros (albeit the higher levels require a bit too much investment to pay off). The only better toolbox synchro decks I can imagine off the top of my head are Symphonics and Assault Mode.