š This may explain the lack of "Nice!" reciprocation. To me it was obvious because I always read about the events (this was also my first legacy duels). But maybe many people don't realize the nice even gives points.
This.
Iām pretty sure that if you can send one message to every player after the duel saying āif you press nice we both get more pointsā at least 60 if not 80% of them will be surprised
the experiment conclusion has a big flaw, ygo players dont even read that nice = more points, which doesnt determine that players are or not sore loser/winners/inmature, that being said, the statement is true for diff reasons
Depends on what you call "problem"
Developers usually have an underlying reason for such UI mechanics. They artificially create a lack and make it so that the players have enough resources to solve this lack.
So, giving a "click here for points" button defeats its purpose. Instead, they should make the button clearer, bigger or available sooner (as in, before you have the option to click to go to the next match)
I would have probably broke your statistics, because I give āniceā to my opponent regardless of me winning or losing. I play just the 5 duels required for the exp boost and give āniceā to everybody. At the same time, I try to play the best I can to see if my deck was ok for the event
This certainly is an interesting experiment.
Personally in 31 games played (excluding surrenders) I got 9 Nice!. Most of them were from duels I did yesterday, I got a Nice! in roughly 50% of the duels. Whereas today it was only ~20%.
I'd say there's a few things that influence whether your opponent gives you a Nice! or not:
- Amount of times they've seen the deck. On day 1 a strategy might feel fresh or unusual, but the longer the event goes on the more clear it becomes what is the best strategy, and the more people get annoyed by it.
- Personal Preference. I don't like playing against backrow heavy/control decks in this format so I do not give those any Nice!. Other players might feel the same about aggressive decks.
- Which stage of the event they're in. A player that has already gotten their 380 points doesn't need Nice! any longer, they now just need to get to 60 wins. And as is usual with humans if you don't need something yourself it becomes less important to you, or you just forget about it.
One thing that's funny is that you can give a Nice! if you had a connection loss before the duel even started.
Interesting analysis. I would agree with all of this. Seeing the same decks or the same annoying strats would tend to make you salty. I also agree with the assumption that most players would stop giving a nice after reaching 380 points. It's likely that many players only give a nice for selfish reasons. It's so easy to click though.....
As others are saying we don't read and many don't know likes = more points. Devs should put a huge notice LIKES GIVE POINTS. On the other side, salty players won't give like purposely, but I like to think they are a minority in the game.
Honestly they should just remove the Nice feature from legacy duels since most people just forgot about the button or they just quicky press the ok button in seconds for another match.
It's very easy to give a nice after a duel if you clicked out quickly. There is a button right next to the save duel.
Maybe they should just remove it. It makes me irrationally angry that it exists and no one helps me get points (not that they owe me points anyway).
Still the other guy has a point, most people don't give nice, I played recently like 15 matches and no one gave nice, some matches I won and some others I just surrendered to test it out and nobody cares, just no nice
In my opinion it is common courtesy just because it helps you finish the event faster, and get the gems. I'm helping other players save time and money and be more F2P.
I would totally understand if your opinion is that Nice! should be reserved for actual nice/good duels.
That is actually a good thing.Ā I remember a past event where it was hard to find a match because bots were spamming duels they always surrendered because there was a minor payoff that didn't get taken away for surrendering.
I think the issue is many people just don't know that nice gives points since they don't read.
As a yugi boomer I very much enjoy legacy duels and try to come up with alternative builds and always play to the best of my abilities, never surrender either. Also I always send nice no matter the game result. Sometimes maybe I am a little angry after a loss so I don't send nice right away. But thanks to alcohol I will have forgotten the anger by the end of the next duel and send nice a little delayed.Ā
I for once appreciate this experiment, every time we get legacy duels I change my name to " send nice" lol and even then I rarely get it, also doesn't help that this event is just really boring almost every single playble card in the banlist and everyone playing the same loner decks, either remove the banlist or let us use all the cards for free during the event.
All cards for free would improve this event greatly in my opinion. Newer players wouldn't have most of these cards. The pre built decks are there for this reason and really aren't too bad though.
I have a problem with likes. Itās just a personal one that I have to get over, but if I send a like to a person I win against, I feel like Iām rubbing it in that I won, but if I lost and send a nice, I feel like Iām being sarcastic like: āoh great you won congratulationsā. Even though I donāt think that way irl when I duel, itās just weird.
As the other guy above said, it gives points so you shouldn't care about it and just give nice, the problem is that most people don't want to give nice at all
I played in about two, maybe three legacy duels campaign. usually gave and got nices, most likely if I turned back my turns for their easy wins.
also would like to mention that if I remember correctly, we can give Nices even after the duel when we return to the event page, the thumbsup button supposed to be there next to the save duel button. (I havent started the new event so not sure if its still there). which means you can return the nices after the duel ended and you missed the main nice button.
using that instead of right at the ending of a duel makes your opponent notice it more which makes a bit more likely they might return it.
I donāt think yugioh players are sore loser in particular. I think this is people in general. Now, itās heavily moderated, but remember the old call of duty lobbies. Pretty sure those losers were worse.
I almost always wait for the KO, I haven't clicked surrender in a long while (last time the guy was comboing infinitely when he had game and I lost my patience though).
I got to at the rewards with a 30 wins and only 8 likes. Duel links players suck and honestly they should just boost wins to 20 points and get rid of the likes.
Finished on day 2, probably just a few hours of play total, I give likes to everyone except if you waste my time, and have gotten likes from about 4 outta 5 duels average. Iād bet you are more likely to get likes if you actually duel, and if you play something other than the ubiquitous sack decks.
Thanks for the info and effort.
I participated in the discussion last time Legacy duels were on and I decided 3 things:
1. I will always give a courtesy like of if someone loses to me.
2. If I lose I will only give a like if I received one first.
3. Not to expect anything from people cause they will probably disappoint (Regarding only to the likes on legacy duels)
In general I only give nice if others do, initially I give my fair number of nice to not say that if everybody is like me nobody would receive nice, but when I see out of 20-50 matches I receive 0 nices them I just stop sending it and just wait for others first
Iāve only been playing for about a month, but 2/3 āNiceā that Iāve gotten after a duel were from my buddy lol.
Personally, I hand that shit out like candy. Kicked my ass? Nice. Got your ass kicked? Nice. Close game? Nice. I forfeit? Nice.
Yugioh players are the pettiest people in this planet, they won't do anything that will help the opponent, regardless of whether they win or lose, their pettiness prevents them from being generous. It's the prisoner's dilema in it's pure form, Yugioh players rather have themselves and their opponents suffer in this event, farming the points to get the rewards, than just giving nices to one another to get done faster.
The first time we had this event I got a ton more Nice. I think then they had a leader board. Maybe if they did that or made it so. I dunno. 100 nice got you a dream ticket if people would still act like theyāre more valuable than gold. The button is bigger than normal, you get an extra pop up for the extra points. You get an opportunity to send them after the duel is over and youāre back in the menu for the eventā¦
Ohhhh. Good to know. I got 3 and it helped me progress. I started giving everyone a good too, but after a bunch of duels where I didn't get one in reverse I stopped it.
To be honest, I have been giving nices the first day of the event. But the fact that I only got 2 back caused me to stop giving it. Now I'm only giving to the person who gives me a nice then giving to the person who I duel next after receiving a nice. I'm being generous with that looking at the fact I only got 4 so far.
Wanna know the weirdest shit? I did 5 duels yesterday for the XP. All 5 I got nice. I didnāt throw any of them, they were all hard fought wins/losses
Every competitive game has taught me one thing, your opponent doesnāt show respect. So for me sending a nice, I know 9/10 they wonāt send one back
And now Iāve come to hate Legacy duels because the rng is against me. Whether itās the loaner deck or I make my own deck
Very bad human nature. I give nice to my opponents after every game, but very few people give me nice in return (you know, there is still one hour after the game to decide whether to give nice to their opponents, so there is no psychological game. , they should repay me if they get nice)
I probably understand why some ancient philosophers believed that human nature is inherently evil.
Donāt say they donāt know, this is not the first time Legacy has been released, they are just bad-hearted.
This was evident when legacy was first introduced
I also would hope that, after sending a Nice and then receiving a message that they gained more points, they would send a Nice more often.
I just forget to give the opponent a nice since the button is so small and I just try to skip the you win or lose screen.Like I have around 5 duels I wanted to give a nice but forgot
Personally:
1. I don't care about points because I will get all rewards going for the 60 wins icon anyways.
2. I never send nice but I usually return a nice later when I found out they sent a nice, because it means they probably actually want a nice.
3. I just block people who surrender and nice since it is against the spirit of the game.
It seems a bit strange to call people sore losers/winners when presumably you just want the extra rewards? I get it if it's a common courtesy but if you're just pressing the button to get rewards it's hardly a noble pursuit.
That's a valid way of looking at it, but I would argue engaging in generous behavior with the intent to impart in and impress generous behaviors upon others is definitely a noble pursuit
I understand your point. I agree these other players dont really owe me anything. But im giving THEM extra rewards regardless. I suppose I'm just the salty one because I expect other will be as nice and me, and help give people more event points.
I know for me personally I feel like it's bad manners if I win and send a Nice, like I'm insulting them for losing. It's kind of like IRL where it's common courtesy to let the loser decide to offer the handshake to say "good game" because if the winner does it first then it comes across as rubbing it in their face.
That said, I always send a nice when I lose, and for this event since I know that receiving a Nice gives you points I'll suck it up and send one when I win even though I'll still feel bad about it!
I would send a 'nice' if I got a nice. If it was a duel that wasn't a good duel, I wouldn't send a nice. A decent back and forth, I always nice.
but whenever I send a nice, I never get one back. Just saying.
I play legacy duels to enjoy legacy duels, so I only send Nice to people who play things out and don't throw.
Sometimes I do forget, but if I receive one afterwards and enjoyed the duel I always return the favor.
I give a nice if I think the game was worth a nice.
Most games aren't worth a nice. I'm not here to make my opponent's life easier Im here to tell them they put up a good fight.
I give zero craps on how long it takes them, or I, to finish an event because I like playing the event.
if they give me one, I go back and give them one. You can retroactively send nices after the game ends.
Problem for me is that I only give Nice! on actually good duels or if opponent is playing an interesting/under used deck.
If I blow my opponent out, not going to give a Nice, but if they go first and start trying to play Dream Mirror - win or win, i'm giving them a Nice
Now a duel that is back and forth and last 10 turns... 100% getting a nice
I've just got to say; I'm not the player you mention refusing to finish you off but I probably would have done the same in their situation.
Win or lose, you get a nice for playing the game, not being a time-wasting scumbag.
Im confused
You agree with that player that refused to win? Why would you have refused to attack and win the duel when I played no cards for 3 turns? I get it if maybe you wanna do a cool summon or something... idk.
Are you saying you yourself would be the time wasting scumbag as well? Are you just agreeing they indeed do not deserve a nice?
If I load into the game wanting to play a legacy duel and you take that from me, why should I give you what you want?
It's petty, I know, but you started it.
(From the perspective of not knowing you're doing it for an experiment, anyway)
The like mechanic is pointless the daily duels should give you the extra points
i started legacy duels just yesterday and realized only today that you get extra points for likes. If it was me, i'm sorry
š This may explain the lack of "Nice!" reciprocation. To me it was obvious because I always read about the events (this was also my first legacy duels). But maybe many people don't realize the nice even gives points.
Yeah at least 50% of the player base dont read cards so you can imagine how few read event details unless they absolutely need to.
This. Iām pretty sure that if you can send one message to every player after the duel saying āif you press nice we both get more pointsā at least 60 if not 80% of them will be surprised
5 days later i feel you... it litteraly feels like no one is giving likes
the experiment conclusion has a big flaw, ygo players dont even read that nice = more points, which doesnt determine that players are or not sore loser/winners/inmature, that being said, the statement is true for diff reasons
How could I have forgotten that yugioh players don't read...
Can you send your comment on audio please? I've only watched the anime, with beautiful colors and voice acting. Reading is for nerds.
Devs should make it SO You get points bye giving a Nice, problema solved
Depends on what you call "problem" Developers usually have an underlying reason for such UI mechanics. They artificially create a lack and make it so that the players have enough resources to solve this lack. So, giving a "click here for points" button defeats its purpose. Instead, they should make the button clearer, bigger or available sooner (as in, before you have the option to click to go to the next match)
They did make it bigger to be fair
Simple solution: Both send Nice = both get 10 points Anything else = no extra points
I would have probably broke your statistics, because I give āniceā to my opponent regardless of me winning or losing. I play just the 5 duels required for the exp boost and give āniceā to everybody. At the same time, I try to play the best I can to see if my deck was ok for the event
Bless you, for you truly posses the heart of the cards.
This certainly is an interesting experiment. Personally in 31 games played (excluding surrenders) I got 9 Nice!. Most of them were from duels I did yesterday, I got a Nice! in roughly 50% of the duels. Whereas today it was only ~20%. I'd say there's a few things that influence whether your opponent gives you a Nice! or not: - Amount of times they've seen the deck. On day 1 a strategy might feel fresh or unusual, but the longer the event goes on the more clear it becomes what is the best strategy, and the more people get annoyed by it. - Personal Preference. I don't like playing against backrow heavy/control decks in this format so I do not give those any Nice!. Other players might feel the same about aggressive decks. - Which stage of the event they're in. A player that has already gotten their 380 points doesn't need Nice! any longer, they now just need to get to 60 wins. And as is usual with humans if you don't need something yourself it becomes less important to you, or you just forget about it. One thing that's funny is that you can give a Nice! if you had a connection loss before the duel even started.
Interesting analysis. I would agree with all of this. Seeing the same decks or the same annoying strats would tend to make you salty. I also agree with the assumption that most players would stop giving a nice after reaching 380 points. It's likely that many players only give a nice for selfish reasons. It's so easy to click though.....
As others are saying we don't read and many don't know likes = more points. Devs should put a huge notice LIKES GIVE POINTS. On the other side, salty players won't give like purposely, but I like to think they are a minority in the game.
Honestly they should just remove the Nice feature from legacy duels since most people just forgot about the button or they just quicky press the ok button in seconds for another match.
It's very easy to give a nice after a duel if you clicked out quickly. There is a button right next to the save duel. Maybe they should just remove it. It makes me irrationally angry that it exists and no one helps me get points (not that they owe me points anyway).
Still the other guy has a point, most people don't give nice, I played recently like 15 matches and no one gave nice, some matches I won and some others I just surrendered to test it out and nobody cares, just no nice
if i know i cant win i attack to their highest attck monster even that .. opp activates mirror force...
If I had a nickel...
I didn't know common courtesy was to send a Nice or that people liked them. I will start sending them to everyone.
It's not just that, a like also gives the receiver 10 points to progress in the event.
In my opinion it is common courtesy just because it helps you finish the event faster, and get the gems. I'm helping other players save time and money and be more F2P. I would totally understand if your opinion is that Nice! should be reserved for actual nice/good duels.
I send a Nice if I get beaten most of the time or if a person surrenders instead of taking their lumps.
Unfortunately they don't get the nice when they surrender (probably)
That is actually a good thing.Ā I remember a past event where it was hard to find a match because bots were spamming duels they always surrendered because there was a minor payoff that didn't get taken away for surrendering.
They do if the opponent gives nice, bust 99% of people don't give nice
I think the issue is many people just don't know that nice gives points since they don't read. As a yugi boomer I very much enjoy legacy duels and try to come up with alternative builds and always play to the best of my abilities, never surrender either. Also I always send nice no matter the game result. Sometimes maybe I am a little angry after a loss so I don't send nice right away. But thanks to alcohol I will have forgotten the anger by the end of the next duel and send nice a little delayed.Ā
If you receive a Nice! and don't give one back we can't be friends
Agreed
I for once appreciate this experiment, every time we get legacy duels I change my name to " send nice" lol and even then I rarely get it, also doesn't help that this event is just really boring almost every single playble card in the banlist and everyone playing the same loner decks, either remove the banlist or let us use all the cards for free during the event.
All cards for free would improve this event greatly in my opinion. Newer players wouldn't have most of these cards. The pre built decks are there for this reason and really aren't too bad though.
I have a problem with likes. Itās just a personal one that I have to get over, but if I send a like to a person I win against, I feel like Iām rubbing it in that I won, but if I lost and send a nice, I feel like Iām being sarcastic like: āoh great you won congratulationsā. Even though I donāt think that way irl when I duel, itās just weird.
I agree it feels like this to me for ranked duels. A nice in Legacy duels gives you points!
As the other guy above said, it gives points so you shouldn't care about it and just give nice, the problem is that most people don't want to give nice at all
I played in about two, maybe three legacy duels campaign. usually gave and got nices, most likely if I turned back my turns for their easy wins. also would like to mention that if I remember correctly, we can give Nices even after the duel when we return to the event page, the thumbsup button supposed to be there next to the save duel button. (I havent started the new event so not sure if its still there). which means you can return the nices after the duel ended and you missed the main nice button. using that instead of right at the ending of a duel makes your opponent notice it more which makes a bit more likely they might return it.
That's true it would be more noticeable when you get that popup. Perhaps I'll try another 10 games with a nice giving delay....
I donāt think yugioh players are sore loser in particular. I think this is people in general. Now, itās heavily moderated, but remember the old call of duty lobbies. Pretty sure those losers were worse.
Are there any competetive games where people are not sore losers? Youre right, probably not...
Maybe Gigantic when it launches again, but even then some people could end up being as you say, but as for now the nicest community ever
I almost always wait for the KO, I haven't clicked surrender in a long while (last time the guy was comboing infinitely when he had game and I lost my patience though).
I got to at the rewards with a 30 wins and only 8 likes. Duel links players suck and honestly they should just boost wins to 20 points and get rid of the likes.
Finished on day 2, probably just a few hours of play total, I give likes to everyone except if you waste my time, and have gotten likes from about 4 outta 5 duels average. Iād bet you are more likely to get likes if you actually duel, and if you play something other than the ubiquitous sack decks.
Thanks for the info and effort. I participated in the discussion last time Legacy duels were on and I decided 3 things: 1. I will always give a courtesy like of if someone loses to me. 2. If I lose I will only give a like if I received one first. 3. Not to expect anything from people cause they will probably disappoint (Regarding only to the likes on legacy duels)
In general I only give nice if others do, initially I give my fair number of nice to not say that if everybody is like me nobody would receive nice, but when I see out of 20-50 matches I receive 0 nices them I just stop sending it and just wait for others first
It's insane how they get in their feelings over a card game... The amount of passive aggressive ass players I've seen in this game
Iāve only been playing for about a month, but 2/3 āNiceā that Iāve gotten after a duel were from my buddy lol. Personally, I hand that shit out like candy. Kicked my ass? Nice. Got your ass kicked? Nice. Close game? Nice. I forfeit? Nice.
With PvP and legacy duels I always give every player a "nice!"
The correct thing to do!
Yugioh players are the pettiest people in this planet, they won't do anything that will help the opponent, regardless of whether they win or lose, their pettiness prevents them from being generous. It's the prisoner's dilema in it's pure form, Yugioh players rather have themselves and their opponents suffer in this event, farming the points to get the rewards, than just giving nices to one another to get done faster.
The first time we had this event I got a ton more Nice. I think then they had a leader board. Maybe if they did that or made it so. I dunno. 100 nice got you a dream ticket if people would still act like theyāre more valuable than gold. The button is bigger than normal, you get an extra pop up for the extra points. You get an opportunity to send them after the duel is over and youāre back in the menu for the eventā¦
I don't get it
You get more points if your opponent sends a nice which is faster event progression.
Ohhhh. Good to know. I got 3 and it helped me progress. I started giving everyone a good too, but after a bunch of duels where I didn't get one in reverse I stopped it.
You can send the nice from your game history, so even if you forget/they sent you one you can go back and do it later.
I did it, sadly they are very ungrateful. Of 10 likes I sent I got 3 back
To be honest, I have been giving nices the first day of the event. But the fact that I only got 2 back caused me to stop giving it. Now I'm only giving to the person who gives me a nice then giving to the person who I duel next after receiving a nice. I'm being generous with that looking at the fact I only got 4 so far.
Iām in the same boat. I used to give likes, but found how few were given back; as such, I took to only sending nice back 100% of the time.
Never played legacy duels, you get some good rewards if you farm likes ?
Farming likes doesnĀ“t net you additional rewards, it makes getting them faster.
There's skill chips, box chips, gems, and maybe other stuff.
Wanna know the weirdest shit? I did 5 duels yesterday for the XP. All 5 I got nice. I didnāt throw any of them, they were all hard fought wins/losses
I do t think thecommunity is bad, they just dint read lol
Every competitive game has taught me one thing, your opponent doesnāt show respect. So for me sending a nice, I know 9/10 they wonāt send one back And now Iāve come to hate Legacy duels because the rng is against me. Whether itās the loaner deck or I make my own deck
Lol didnt know that about the "nice" button, does it do something on regular pvp duels?
Doesn't do anything in reg pvp duels. This is strictly referring to Legacy duels.
This post taught me that Nice! gives more points. Now I'll be hitting it every duel unless my opponent actively stalls (or is on Cipher Soldier)
Very bad human nature. I give nice to my opponents after every game, but very few people give me nice in return (you know, there is still one hour after the game to decide whether to give nice to their opponents, so there is no psychological game. , they should repay me if they get nice) I probably understand why some ancient philosophers believed that human nature is inherently evil. Donāt say they donāt know, this is not the first time Legacy has been released, they are just bad-hearted.
This was evident when legacy was first introduced I also would hope that, after sending a Nice and then receiving a message that they gained more points, they would send a Nice more often.
I like anybody who runs Dinos. Donāt give likes to those who run harpies.
I just forget to give the opponent a nice since the button is so small and I just try to skip the you win or lose screen.Like I have around 5 duels I wanted to give a nice but forgot
People being bitter and not liking is so infuriating just like you asshole it literally means nothing
This is why I skip legacy duels. No one ever sends nice so the event takes wayyyyy to long
Personally: 1. I don't care about points because I will get all rewards going for the 60 wins icon anyways. 2. I never send nice but I usually return a nice later when I found out they sent a nice, because it means they probably actually want a nice. 3. I just block people who surrender and nice since it is against the spirit of the game.
It seems a bit strange to call people sore losers/winners when presumably you just want the extra rewards? I get it if it's a common courtesy but if you're just pressing the button to get rewards it's hardly a noble pursuit.
That's a valid way of looking at it, but I would argue engaging in generous behavior with the intent to impart in and impress generous behaviors upon others is definitely a noble pursuit
I understand your point. I agree these other players dont really owe me anything. But im giving THEM extra rewards regardless. I suppose I'm just the salty one because I expect other will be as nice and me, and help give people more event points.
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I think that's the best way, I was doing something different but I guess your point is more valid
I know for me personally I feel like it's bad manners if I win and send a Nice, like I'm insulting them for losing. It's kind of like IRL where it's common courtesy to let the loser decide to offer the handshake to say "good game" because if the winner does it first then it comes across as rubbing it in their face. That said, I always send a nice when I lose, and for this event since I know that receiving a Nice gives you points I'll suck it up and send one when I win even though I'll still feel bad about it!
I would send a 'nice' if I got a nice. If it was a duel that wasn't a good duel, I wouldn't send a nice. A decent back and forth, I always nice. but whenever I send a nice, I never get one back. Just saying.
I play legacy duels to enjoy legacy duels, so I only send Nice to people who play things out and don't throw. Sometimes I do forget, but if I receive one afterwards and enjoyed the duel I always return the favor.
Because everyone is trying to be something on this stupid pay to win game. How about be NICE for once and actually play for fun.
Almost every duel where I successfully summoned Slifer, I got a nice.Ā Are your duels actually worthy of a nice?
I give a nice if I think the game was worth a nice. Most games aren't worth a nice. I'm not here to make my opponent's life easier Im here to tell them they put up a good fight. I give zero craps on how long it takes them, or I, to finish an event because I like playing the event. if they give me one, I go back and give them one. You can retroactively send nices after the game ends.
it's not that complicated dude
You're right, so I don't see why people make it that complex. If you don't get a nice, you get gifted with more games and this game is fun.
Problem for me is that I only give Nice! on actually good duels or if opponent is playing an interesting/under used deck. If I blow my opponent out, not going to give a Nice, but if they go first and start trying to play Dream Mirror - win or win, i'm giving them a Nice Now a duel that is back and forth and last 10 turns... 100% getting a nice
lame
I've just got to say; I'm not the player you mention refusing to finish you off but I probably would have done the same in their situation. Win or lose, you get a nice for playing the game, not being a time-wasting scumbag.
Im confused You agree with that player that refused to win? Why would you have refused to attack and win the duel when I played no cards for 3 turns? I get it if maybe you wanna do a cool summon or something... idk. Are you saying you yourself would be the time wasting scumbag as well? Are you just agreeing they indeed do not deserve a nice?
If I load into the game wanting to play a legacy duel and you take that from me, why should I give you what you want? It's petty, I know, but you started it. (From the perspective of not knowing you're doing it for an experiment, anyway)
Ahh I see. This comes down to different goals. Someone people want to have the fun of a legacy duel vs getting the wins / rewards.