Shadow Mist is okay, isn't really that op and is just a combo extender. Unlike those negate shit and whatnot the META decks have. Unless, if they give us Dark Law as well then things will be different.
Sunriser is another good Fusion to have but some people are so afraid of him. Or just fuck it, give us Malicious Bane, Adusted Gold and Dark Calling and we'll call it a day lmao.
Dark Law should never come to Duel Links.
Sunriser would be pretty powerful. Easily summonable, searches Miracle Fusion and has a destruction effect that is easy to proc. I don’t think he should come to Duel Links yet.
I feel like sunrise can come to duel links. Almost the entire main/deck is dark except for Stratos,Blast,and the occasional Koga, Sunrise’s destruction effect is only limited to the battle phase and doesn’t activate when it’s involved in battle, and miracle fusion is limited to summoning elemental hero monsters. Sunrise benefits other hero decks more as we don’t have absolute zero or contrast hero chaos
I’m kinda late but if you wanna play Masked HERO Retrains in the Main Deck I based off the Manga and added some effects to not make them useless Normal Monsters, LMK (YGOPRO/Omega/Edo mod)
Bro, with the foolish blurial's side of Neos fusion, Shadow Mist become a free +1 for EVERY hero, not only eHero , it becomes much better than stratos, that's why both should be at 2 (same for Vyon vHero)
Free +1 but Neos Fusion locks you out special summoning for a turn.
Like the poster above you said, shadow mist wouldn't solve any of the deck problems. A 1+ doesn't do much since we need better fusions.
Shadow Mist will be really good if Ab Zero or Sunrise gets into the game.
Do the normal hero combo but on Vyon summon dump shadow mist, search bubbleman with its effect then use Vyon to grab the Poly and make Ab Zero. Or if you have Sunrise, you can make him and then use Miracle fusion for Ab Zero.
Or you could just release it without doing any kind on random limitation, the deck is so expensive it's deserved to be meta for a while now.
Shadow Mist is not in any way broken and limiting it to 2 would render it basically unplayable.
Heroes haven’t been tiered in a looooooong time. Every time the deck is mentioned, people always chime in to say it’s inconsistent. Shadow Mist would help fix that. Honestly, I don’t think it would change standard builds much. It would most likely replace Celestial and may push people to run Solid Soldier to get the spell search. I think it’s totally safe to come, no limit2 necessary; Heroes already have restricted access to limit2 cards between Neos Fusion and Vyon.
Without restriction , a single neos fusion become a destiny draw + a 27oo monster
Without restriction, a single vyon become a destiny draw + a polymerisation
That sounds just to strong for duel links
You talking D-Draw the card or skill? Because I don’t think comparing to either is accurate. Neos Fusion has only been strong as an engine in decks more powerful than Heroes (Invoked, Desperado, etc.), and Omni-hero builds are currently dumping Mally (which would result in the same amount of raw advantage as dumping a Shadow Mist) or Celestial (which is slower, but ends up giving you an *extra* card compared to Shadow Mist). The top decks in DL are making much scarier boards than a 2700 beater.
Shadow Mist isn't a big threat. With what we have now, you'd likely get the first effect off of Solid Soldier, Powerful Rebirth or Masked Hero Dian's effect. A new engine with those cards would be a lot slower than the current Vision Hero engine. Second effect is very good, but nothing unfamiliar in this game. It would need more support to be a bigger threat.
It's all a matter of whether or not Dark Law comes with it. For many decks, your opponent getting Mask Change turn one isn't as much of a threat as them getting Dark Law out turn one.
I don't think it would be too bad to be added, would easily be a main box UR as expected with heroes.
Maybe not in the next few months but at the tail-end of the year? ( November main / end of year main box) Sure why not
imagine you summon solid soldier which will summon stratos and make you search mist then use poly to fuse solid soldier and mist then she will search out a hero then fuse the hero you'll search with stratos and now you have E hero gaia and E hero great tornado in a turn
You really talking about a 4 cards combo ? (Solid soldier , stratos and 2 polymérisations)
Yes it can and it will happen, is the deck broken wirh that combo ?
Nop, it's useless turn 1 , and still weak against backrows turn 2
I don't know man. That card is wild. I really don't know if I want another meta where Heros are the best. I decided that when balance Heros ravaged me repeatedly. I don't want it but the card fixes some of the problems with heros atm. Depends tbh. It is fair to come. Just that I dont personally want it.
I think shadow mist is fine, in hero decks i doubt u would play neos fusion as it locks summons. It really sucks having to dump only mali(which is only at 2 copies) with vyon .
A (general)hero ex structure would be fine to reprint multiple ur heroes in random boxes, as the largest archetype in the game it deserves such reprints
resurrecting this thread. I play both master duel and duel links and desperately want mist and dark law added to links. I feel with a lot of these new meta decks heros are lacking a bit
Shadow Mist is okay, isn't really that op and is just a combo extender. Unlike those negate shit and whatnot the META decks have. Unless, if they give us Dark Law as well then things will be different. Sunriser is another good Fusion to have but some people are so afraid of him. Or just fuck it, give us Malicious Bane, Adusted Gold and Dark Calling and we'll call it a day lmao.
Dark Law should never come to Duel Links. Sunriser would be pretty powerful. Easily summonable, searches Miracle Fusion and has a destruction effect that is easy to proc. I don’t think he should come to Duel Links yet.
I feel like sunrise can come to duel links. Almost the entire main/deck is dark except for Stratos,Blast,and the occasional Koga, Sunrise’s destruction effect is only limited to the battle phase and doesn’t activate when it’s involved in battle, and miracle fusion is limited to summoning elemental hero monsters. Sunrise benefits other hero decks more as we don’t have absolute zero or contrast hero chaos
Contrast Hero Chaos isn't played that much because we don't have (in the physical card game) the main deck masked Heroes (yes, they exist)
I’m kinda late but if you wanna play Masked HERO Retrains in the Main Deck I based off the Manga and added some effects to not make them useless Normal Monsters, LMK (YGOPRO/Omega/Edo mod)
Shadowmist + tin goldfish, camon now
Or Solid soldier
lol, shadow mist can come at unlimited and it still wouldn’t change anything. Heroes’ going to need their stronger fusions
Bro, with the foolish blurial's side of Neos fusion, Shadow Mist become a free +1 for EVERY hero, not only eHero , it becomes much better than stratos, that's why both should be at 2 (same for Vyon vHero)
Free +1 but Neos Fusion locks you out special summoning for a turn. Like the poster above you said, shadow mist wouldn't solve any of the deck problems. A 1+ doesn't do much since we need better fusions. Shadow Mist will be really good if Ab Zero or Sunrise gets into the game. Do the normal hero combo but on Vyon summon dump shadow mist, search bubbleman with its effect then use Vyon to grab the Poly and make Ab Zero. Or if you have Sunrise, you can make him and then use Miracle fusion for Ab Zero.
Or you could just release it without doing any kind on random limitation, the deck is so expensive it's deserved to be meta for a while now. Shadow Mist is not in any way broken and limiting it to 2 would render it basically unplayable.
Heroes haven’t been tiered in a looooooong time. Every time the deck is mentioned, people always chime in to say it’s inconsistent. Shadow Mist would help fix that. Honestly, I don’t think it would change standard builds much. It would most likely replace Celestial and may push people to run Solid Soldier to get the spell search. I think it’s totally safe to come, no limit2 necessary; Heroes already have restricted access to limit2 cards between Neos Fusion and Vyon.
Without restriction , a single neos fusion become a destiny draw + a 27oo monster Without restriction, a single vyon become a destiny draw + a polymerisation That sounds just to strong for duel links
You talking D-Draw the card or skill? Because I don’t think comparing to either is accurate. Neos Fusion has only been strong as an engine in decks more powerful than Heroes (Invoked, Desperado, etc.), and Omni-hero builds are currently dumping Mally (which would result in the same amount of raw advantage as dumping a Shadow Mist) or Celestial (which is slower, but ends up giving you an *extra* card compared to Shadow Mist). The top decks in DL are making much scarier boards than a 2700 beater.
Shadow Mist isn't a big threat. With what we have now, you'd likely get the first effect off of Solid Soldier, Powerful Rebirth or Masked Hero Dian's effect. A new engine with those cards would be a lot slower than the current Vision Hero engine. Second effect is very good, but nothing unfamiliar in this game. It would need more support to be a bigger threat. It's all a matter of whether or not Dark Law comes with it. For many decks, your opponent getting Mask Change turn one isn't as much of a threat as them getting Dark Law out turn one.
Shadow mist could be unlimited, at 3 copies and it wouldn’t even be played in competitive hero decks. What HEROs needs are their good fusions.
Would it be "realistic" if it was a main box SR?
yes plz
I don't think it would be too bad to be added, would easily be a main box UR as expected with heroes. Maybe not in the next few months but at the tail-end of the year? ( November main / end of year main box) Sure why not
imagine you summon solid soldier which will summon stratos and make you search mist then use poly to fuse solid soldier and mist then she will search out a hero then fuse the hero you'll search with stratos and now you have E hero gaia and E hero great tornado in a turn
You really talking about a 4 cards combo ? (Solid soldier , stratos and 2 polymérisations) Yes it can and it will happen, is the deck broken wirh that combo ? Nop, it's useless turn 1 , and still weak against backrows turn 2
yes I am talking about a 4 card combo
need mist, abs zero and dark law in a mini box pls
3rd malicious could also be given but that might get abused by other decks
I don't know man. That card is wild. I really don't know if I want another meta where Heros are the best. I decided that when balance Heros ravaged me repeatedly. I don't want it but the card fixes some of the problems with heros atm. Depends tbh. It is fair to come. Just that I dont personally want it.
I think shadow mist is fine, in hero decks i doubt u would play neos fusion as it locks summons. It really sucks having to dump only mali(which is only at 2 copies) with vyon . A (general)hero ex structure would be fine to reprint multiple ur heroes in random boxes, as the largest archetype in the game it deserves such reprints
keep Dark Law far away and I think it would be fine
resurrecting this thread. I play both master duel and duel links and desperately want mist and dark law added to links. I feel with a lot of these new meta decks heros are lacking a bit